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(BBC)   Welcome to Miracle Village, where half the population is made up of registered sex offenders   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 65
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2013-07-31 02:24:09 PM  

PunGent: hard h2o: h8sloplay: Agree that the vast majority of sex offenders on the list don't need to be there.  We waste milions of dollars managing this list.  Even Adam Walsh, who was the main push behind it, says it has gotten out of control.  I would rather take that money and only monitor the true risks and worry about the criminals that rob, steal and go through the revolving door of our jails only to commit more crimes. How about let's spend the money on mental health issues.  Problem is that no politician will vote to modify the registry for fear that they would be deemed soft on the issue and it would be used against them come re-election.  First thing a freshman senator or representative is told to do is introduce a bill against sex offenders.  Everyone will vote for it and it teaches them how the process works.  This doesn't even cover the big money that tether companies line the pockets of the politicians with to get these laws passed.
We are out of control as a country and big money has taken the driver's seat.

If they are in the federal prison system then I imagine that they did something much worse than flash some jogger.

Not necessarily.  Great article in the New Yorker a few months back about the central Fed location where they "treat" sex offenders...by requiring them to make up crimes they didn't commit, to "prove" they're embracing their guilt as the first step in treatment.



Correct.  The fed makes admission of guilt a prerequisite for any type of inside privileges or release considerations.  Even if one originally pleaded not guilty.  This is then all documented so if there is ever an appeal or issue where people go back to the case, they can then say 'see?  look.  they admitted it'.
 
2013-07-31 02:29:46 PM  
We should be more like these guys:

fc09.deviantart.net

Put all the pervs in ghettos like these:
cdnstatic-1.mydestination.com

And then have the Army storm the place, executing all of them and their relatives. Difference is, the roles of "good guys" and "bad guys" are reversed.

/Fark the Constitution
 
2013-07-31 02:34:49 PM  

PunGent: hard h2o: I have a 14yo daughter. If some 18 or 19 yo dude came sniffing around I would not allow it.

That guy is not just someone drunk caught pissing in an alley with an indecent exposure conviction. He is not an 18yo with a 17yo gf. He belongs on that registry.

My sympathies, trying to raise a kid, but ten bucks says you'll be the LAST to know when she's dating.


You are probably right. She is a straight A student. Very smart but a bit sneaky. She knows how I feel about dating at too early of an age. She knows how I feel about academics coming first.

If some predator did anything to my girl or my young son i fear what I might do. They would not need to bother with the sex offender list. No ITG here. I have just read enough stories about what these predators do to get me really riled up.
 
2013-07-31 02:51:20 PM  

PunGent: padraig: IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?

One guy here on Fark said he always had first dates at the same bar, where an off-duty cop carded at the door. This ensured that the girl was 21.

Err, it's not a bad precaution, but it in no way ensures anybody's 21.  It should, but it doesn't.

Might buy you some flexibility at trial, IF you can get the cop to testify on your behalf.


IIRC, courts have thrown out the met-at-a-bar-who-should-have-carded-her defense for stat rape. Wish I could cite.
 
hej
2013-07-31 03:19:47 PM  
Rather than just a town, I think we need an entire island that we can send these people to.
 
2013-07-31 03:30:42 PM  

hej: Rather than just a town, I think we need an entire island that we can send these people to.


I still think my idea is better.
 
2013-07-31 05:12:42 PM  
Sounds like Renton.
 
2013-07-31 06:46:45 PM  
Solving Miracle Village municipal problems: "Who around here do I have to blow to get my trash picked up?"
 
2013-07-31 07:53:47 PM  

hard h2o: I have a 14yo daughter. If some 18 or 19 yo dude came sniffing around I would not allow it.

That guy is not just someone drunk caught pissing in an alley with an indecent exposure conviction. He is not an 18yo with a 17yo gf. He belongs on that registry.


No, he doesn't.  If what he says is true.

Girls bumping their age up a couple/few years so their in the "ok" zone is absurdly common.  Now if he lowered his age to make it ok, well that's completely different.  If you're 14 year old is out there lying about their age and dating 19 year olds  mom and dad have the problem, not the 19 year olds.

Even if he knew, you're effectively saying life without parole is a reasonable punishment for his crime.
 
2013-07-31 08:36:22 PM  
I know that girls these days look older than their years but if you can't tell that a girl is 14 then you need to be branded a pedophile. I would guess he knew something was fishy but didn't want to ask and ruin a good thing. I would give him 16 or 17 but not 14.

He "knew her for a year and dated her for a few months" how do things like schools and friends not come up?
 
2013-07-31 09:35:07 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?


They ALL say that, just like all rapists say "she was asking for it". I could possibly except that for a one-night stand (maybe, depends on other variables).

But an honest to god relationship spanning months, you had to know something was up.
 
2013-07-31 09:51:13 PM  

hard h2o: I know that girls these days look older than their years but if you can't tell that a girl is 14 then you need to be branded a pedophile. I would guess he knew something was fishy but didn't want to ask and ruin a good thing. I would give him 16 or 17 but not 14.

He "knew her for a year and dated her for a few months" how do things like schools and friends not come up?


I started dating a 22 year old when I was 15.  I told him I was 17 so he knew I was in high school.  When I was 17 I dated a 20 year old who I told I was 18 and a senior in high school (which was half true).  I got busted when I asked him to buy me cigarettes.  There were a few brief 20 somethings in there too.  When you're in high school there aren't going to be much differences between the years in terms of details told to the guys unless he's really asking a lot of questions about classes or college which never really came up.  Also, they both knew I was under age and it didn't stop them from having sex with me anyway.  The one guy was a little pissed, but he still had sex with me afterwards.

In case anyone is wondering, yah I feel bad about lying to them now.  However, my parents never knew and frankly I'm not sure how much they would have cared.  They certainly never would have pressed charges.
 
2013-08-01 01:07:31 AM  

PillsHere: hard h2o: I know that girls these days look older than their years but if you can't tell that a girl is 14 then you need to be branded a pedophile. I would guess he knew something was fishy but didn't want to ask and ruin a good thing. I would give him 16 or 17 but not 14.

He "knew her for a year and dated her for a few months" how do things like schools and friends not come up?

I started dating a 22 year old when I was 15.  I told him I was 17 so he knew I was in high school.  When I was 17 I dated a 20 year old who I told I was 18 and a senior in high school (which was half true).  I got busted when I asked him to buy me cigarettes.  There were a few brief 20 somethings in there too.  When you're in high school there aren't going to be much differences between the years in terms of details told to the guys unless he's really asking a lot of questions about classes or college which never really came up.   Also, they both knew I was under age and it didn't stop them from having sex with me anyway.  The one guy was a little pissed, but he still had sex with me afterwards.

In case anyone is wondering, yah I feel bad about lying to them now.  However, my parents never knew and frankly I'm not sure how much they would have cared.  They certainly never would have pressed charges.


Quite frankly, that sentence scares me a lot and is sort of the point I'm making. No offense but how did you meet these guys anyway?
 
2013-08-01 09:24:47 AM  

hard h2o: PunGent: hard h2o: I have a 14yo daughter. If some 18 or 19 yo dude came sniffing around I would not allow it.

That guy is not just someone drunk caught pissing in an alley with an indecent exposure conviction. He is not an 18yo with a 17yo gf. He belongs on that registry.

My sympathies, trying to raise a kid, but ten bucks says you'll be the LAST to know when she's dating.

You are probably right. She is a straight A student. Very smart but a bit sneaky. She knows how I feel about dating at too early of an age. She knows how I feel about academics coming first.

If some predator did anything to my girl or my young son i fear what I might do. They would not need to bother with the sex offender list. No ITG here. I have just read enough stories about what these predators do to get me really riled up.


I've got nieces of my own, so I hear you...but remember that case few years back?  young daughter accuses neighbor, dad beats up neighbor, turns out daughter made the whole thing up?

Everyone thinks THEIR kids are above-average...mathematically speaking, many of them are wrong...
 
2013-08-01 09:30:52 AM  

hard h2o: I know that girls these days look older than their years but if you can't tell that a girl is 14 then you need to be branded a pedophile. I would guess he knew something was fishy but didn't want to ask and ruin a good thing. I would give him 16 or 17 but not 14.

 I've done some professional modelling...14 made up to like like 24 is very common, particularly for females.


My tastes don't run that way, I like mature women...but a young guy who's had a couple drinks in a bar?  not all that easy to override what his eyes and his dick are telling him.

Couple that with hormones in our food and water; kids, particularly females, have been maturing physically earlier and earlier for the last few decades.
 
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