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2013-07-31 09:23:12 AM
More pervs per square inch than a Japanese cosplay convention.
 
2013-07-31 09:23:14 AM
Fiddler's Green?
 
2013-07-31 09:23:36 AM
Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?
 
2013-07-31 09:23:55 AM
What's the town circle called?
 
2013-07-31 09:24:44 AM
Sudden Valley?

/a Michael Company.
 
2013-07-31 09:27:34 AM
Although they can travel pretty much anywhere during the day, at night they must be at an address that complies with the residency restrictions.

So they can go wherever all day but they are required to own or rent a home in a secluded out of the way area...
 
2013-07-31 09:27:39 AM

Gaambit: Sudden Valley?

/a Michael Company.


Beat me to it... damn
 
2013-07-31 09:27:56 AM
Florida?

,checks article>

yup
 
2013-07-31 09:28:04 AM
They really need to review cases where it was people having sex with their girlfriends.
 
2013-07-31 09:28:05 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?


You should, citizen. Also, lock it up.
 
2013-07-31 09:28:22 AM

Gaambit: Sudden Valley?

/a Michael Company.


Maybe they are looking for ANUSTART
 
2013-07-31 09:29:44 AM
s21.postimg.org
 
2013-07-31 09:31:12 AM
If you're a hot chick it will be a miracle if you don't get raped there.
 
2013-07-31 09:31:24 AM
(knock knock knock)
New guy:
Hello, I moved in down the street and I am required by law to inform you about my sex offender status...
Resident: Oh, um, really? So...tell me more about it...tell me everything about it (grunt)

/day in the life of Miracle Village?
 
2013-07-31 09:31:50 AM
Miracle Vallage? I've heard of this place - it is where they make Miracle Whip- I wondered what that peculiar taste was in that stuff.
 
2013-07-31 09:33:29 AM

Walker: If you're a hot chick kid it will be a miracle if you don't get raped there.


I should really read the articles BEFORE I comment.
 
2013-07-31 09:33:39 AM
The official vehicle of Miracle Village

www.duncanchannon.com
 
2013-07-31 09:34:14 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?


This^
 
2013-07-31 09:37:42 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?


To be fair, 99% of the sex offender registry is bullshiat.  The only people we should be removing from society are those who are a danger to others, and if they're a danger to others, they should be in prison.  Forcing people to live 100 miles from civilization is just cruel and unusual punishment, but we have yet to have it successfully challenged.
 
2013-07-31 09:38:53 AM
I guess it beats the guys living in tents because they can't live anywhere, but it doesn't really seem to solve the problem.
 
2013-07-31 09:39:40 AM
FTA: "But we're moving on, and this is a country of second and third chances for people who make mistakes."

Dude, you live near a modern leper colony of carefully controlled untouchables who will never be forgiven, or treated as normal citizens, for the rest of their lives. Hell, they'll only be at this commune until someone manages to drive them off to another county.

For the coaches who diddled students or the guy who diddled his own kids, I have little sympathy. But for the people TFA references who are there for indecent exposure or sex with a girlfriend, it seems a bit heavy.
 
2013-07-31 09:40:17 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?


One guy here on Fark said he always had first dates at the same bar, where an off-duty cop carded at the door. This ensured that the girl was 21.
 
2013-07-31 09:40:55 AM
Take me down to the Miracle Village where ass is eighteen and there's no lewd spillage.

/oh won't you please me alone
 
2013-07-31 09:46:28 AM

Pick13: The official vehicle of Miracle Village

[www.duncanchannon.com image 550x329]


town bus
 
2013-07-31 10:00:05 AM

The Muthaship: What's the town circle called?


The Jerk Circle?
 
2013-07-31 10:01:19 AM

Arkanaut: The Muthaship: What's the town circle called?

The Jerk Circle?


And, I thank you....
 
2013-07-31 10:05:21 AM
Looking at google earth it's only a mile or two from the nearest town.
 
2013-07-31 10:15:20 AM
Beneath the trees where nobody sees, they hide and rape as long as they please, and that's where pedophiles have their picnics.
 
2013-07-31 10:18:23 AM

padraig: One guy here on Fark said he always had first dates at the same bar, where an off-duty cop carded at the door. This ensured that the girl was 21.


I'm just saying, I've been in this situation and thankfully at the time the legal age was 16 where the incident occurred. Waking up and having your fun time from the previous night ask you to take her to band practice is a little jarring.

I seriously thought she was kidding and asked nonchalantly if she was in a band... "Ohh no band class for school, I go to insertname Highschool"
 
2013-07-31 10:36:28 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?


This. Putting people like this in the same category as the Sanduskys of the world is beyond asinine. Not to mention that relative age should be taken into account, too.

But, frankly, I oppose the government keeping these registries at all because they are too easy to abuse. Think of people like that Virgina nut Cuccinelli having the power to put people on sex offender registries.
 
2013-07-31 10:38:19 AM

ArmagedDan: But for the people TFA references who are there for indecent exposure or sex with a girlfriend, it seems a bit heavy.


IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?


awesomebmovies.com

Not just fiction.

/the gun is good, the penis is evil
 
2013-07-31 10:41:30 AM

gshepnyc: Not to mention that relative age should be taken into account, too.


Thankfully, Maine does that.  They've got a whole matrix of what age can f*ck around with whom, and such as.  Under the age of 14, of course, is right out.

Unfortunately, we have a *publicly-accessible* sex offender registry, which has been used once (IIRC) already by a serial killer.  One of the guys who ended up dead was much like the 22-year-old in TFA:  was 19 and diddled his 15-year-old GF.
 
2013-07-31 10:48:21 AM
This is what they get for hiring GOB for sales.
 
2013-07-31 10:54:38 AM
And the other half enjoy it?

/DNRTA
 
2013-07-31 10:55:53 AM

Intrepid00: This is what they get for hiring GOB for sales.


GOOBY NO!
 
2013-07-31 11:03:50 AM
Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
 
2013-07-31 11:07:48 AM
Still sounds like an improvement on my town.
 
2013-07-31 11:34:57 AM

reillan: IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?

To be fair, 99% of the sex offender registry is bullshiat.  The only people we should be removing from society are those who are a danger to others, and if they're a danger to others, they should be in prison.  Forcing people to live 100 miles from civilization is just cruel and unusual punishment, but we have yet to have it successfully challenged.



It will never be challenged and Federal, State, County, and City governments are doubling down on restrictions as well as setting people up to be targets of violence.  I have someone who's been going through this and is currently in the federal pen.

The problem for anyone convicted is that there is not a politician or judge on earth that will work for them even in a known bad case.  As I explained it, "In best case scenario, if you were to be let go, the effect is neutral on the powers that be.  In the worst case scenario,  your release would come back to bite them and their livelihood in the ass.  There is no upside to anyone considering or helping you who is in a position of power."
 
2013-07-31 11:50:52 AM
Agree that the vast majority of sex offenders on the list don't need to be there.  We waste milions of dollars managing this list.  Even Adam Walsh, who was the main push behind it, says it has gotten out of control.  I would rather take that money and only monitor the true risks and worry about the criminals that rob, steal and go through the revolving door of our jails only to commit more crimes. How about let's spend the money on mental health issues.  Problem is that no politician will vote to modify the registry for fear that they would be deemed soft on the issue and it would be used against them come re-election.  First thing a freshman senator or representative is told to do is introduce a bill against sex offenders.  Everyone will vote for it and it teaches them how the process works.  This doesn't even cover the big money that tether companies line the pockets of the politicians with to get these laws passed.
We are out of control as a country and big money has taken the driver's seat.
 
2013-07-31 11:52:58 AM
I have a 14yo daughter. If some 18 or 19 yo dude came sniffing around I would not allow it.

That guy is not just someone drunk caught pissing in an alley with an indecent exposure conviction. He is not an 18yo with a 17yo gf. He belongs on that registry.
 
2013-07-31 11:58:15 AM

h8sloplay: Agree that the vast majority of sex offenders on the list don't need to be there.  We waste milions of dollars managing this list.  Even Adam Walsh, who was the main push behind it, says it has gotten out of control.  I would rather take that money and only monitor the true risks and worry about the criminals that rob, steal and go through the revolving door of our jails only to commit more crimes. How about let's spend the money on mental health issues.  Problem is that no politician will vote to modify the registry for fear that they would be deemed soft on the issue and it would be used against them come re-election.  First thing a freshman senator or representative is told to do is introduce a bill against sex offenders.  Everyone will vote for it and it teaches them how the process works.  This doesn't even cover the big money that tether companies line the pockets of the politicians with to get these laws passed.
We are out of control as a country and big money has taken the driver's seat.


If they are in the federal prison system then I imagine that they did something much worse than flash some jogger.
 
2013-07-31 12:01:54 PM

hard h2o: h8sloplay: Agree that the vast majority of sex offenders on the list don't need to be there.  We waste milions of dollars managing this list.  Even Adam Walsh, who was the main push behind it, says it has gotten out of control.  I would rather take that money and only monitor the true risks and worry about the criminals that rob, steal and go through the revolving door of our jails only to commit more crimes. How about let's spend the money on mental health issues.  Problem is that no politician will vote to modify the registry for fear that they would be deemed soft on the issue and it would be used against them come re-election.  First thing a freshman senator or representative is told to do is introduce a bill against sex offenders.  Everyone will vote for it and it teaches them how the process works.  This doesn't even cover the big money that tether companies line the pockets of the politicians with to get these laws passed.
We are out of control as a country and big money has taken the driver's seat.

If they are in the federal prison system then I imagine that they did something much worse than flash some jogger.



You would be wrong.  Federal prison doesn't mean something super bad any more than calling someone a 'felon' has any meaning anymore.  It can simply mean that your apprehension and prosecution was from a federal agency instead of local, county, or state.  There are a lot of fingers in the money pie for this.
 
2013-07-31 12:03:17 PM

BafflerMeal: hard h2o: h8sloplay: Agree that the vast majority of sex offenders on the list don't need to be there.  We waste milions of dollars managing this list.  Even Adam Walsh, who was the main push behind it, says it has gotten out of control.  I would rather take that money and only monitor the true risks and worry about the criminals that rob, steal and go through the revolving door of our jails only to commit more crimes. How about let's spend the money on mental health issues.  Problem is that no politician will vote to modify the registry for fear that they would be deemed soft on the issue and it would be used against them come re-election.  First thing a freshman senator or representative is told to do is introduce a bill against sex offenders.  Everyone will vote for it and it teaches them how the process works.  This doesn't even cover the big money that tether companies line the pockets of the politicians with to get these laws passed.
We are out of control as a country and big money has taken the driver's seat.

If they are in the federal prison system then I imagine that they did something much worse than flash some jogger.


You would be wrong.  Federal prison doesn't mean something super bad any more than calling someone a 'felon' has any meaning anymore.  It can simply mean that your apprehension and prosecution was from a federal agency instead of local, county, or state.  There are a lot of fingers in the money pie for this.


So what did they do then?
 
2013-07-31 12:08:25 PM
Is there a homicide registry?  Or can homicide convicts serve their prison terms and come back to society and live wherever they want?
 
2013-07-31 12:18:33 PM
Their crimes can not be categorized to be against a certain demographic. There are restrictions placed on certain people released from prison such as people you can associate with, restrictions on firearms and voting...
 
2013-07-31 12:22:17 PM

hard h2o: BafflerMeal: hard h2o: h8sloplay: Agree that the vast majority of sex offenders on the list don't need to be there.  We waste milions of dollars managing this list.  Even Adam Walsh, who was the main push behind it, says it has gotten out of control.  I would rather take that money and only monitor the true risks and worry about the criminals that rob, steal and go through the revolving door of our jails only to commit more crimes. How about let's spend the money on mental health issues.  Problem is that no politician will vote to modify the registry for fear that they would be deemed soft on the issue and it would be used against them come re-election.  First thing a freshman senator or representative is told to do is introduce a bill against sex offenders.  Everyone will vote for it and it teaches them how the process works.  This doesn't even cover the big money that tether companies line the pockets of the politicians with to get these laws passed.
We are out of control as a country and big money has taken the driver's seat.

If they are in the federal prison system then I imagine that they did something much worse than flash some jogger.


You would be wrong.  Federal prison doesn't mean something super bad any more than calling someone a 'felon' has any meaning anymore.  It can simply mean that your apprehension and prosecution was from a federal agency instead of local, county, or state.  There are a lot of fingers in the money pie for this.

So what did they do then?



I try not to get too involved in the details and subject information to the witch hunt of these threads but here you go:

Old guy buys a young nude female photo collection of a from a website.  Yes, I know, "who buys porn stuff anymore...".  Old folks don't understand the internet so well...  Anywho the girl in question would have perfectly in line with some of the younger models you see on the foobies site here.  (not a little kid) Anyway...

The website wasn't sketchy and had all the disclaimers required about models and registration etc....  Unfortunately said website had some underage models' photo sets.  ICE ( yes, immigration and customs enforcement ) is yet another agency that somehow has a sex crimes task force ( along with every other agency in the universe ).  All the fed agencies share a db with fingerprints of photos that are identified from previous cases as underage or exploited youth.

So back to the story:  The old guy buys one photo set from website for a little under ten dollars.  Upon viewing the pics realizes that this girl is too young and promptly deletes them from his computer and asks for a refund from the website.  He gets his refund.

Two years later it turns out that ICE was investigating the business for said issues.  Now this guy has both sent and received funds to this business that was involved in the investigation.  He fully cooperated with the feds when they contacted him.  The did forensics on the hard drive and found the deleted photos from two years prior.  And the fed answer to this riddle is: child porn trafficking.

70 yo man with no priors and a clean record is denied bail (f'd up: in the arraignment, they explicitly say they denied bail *because* he had no record and wasn't as conditioned to the system as a lifetime offender would be).  After a year of being kicked around in one of the most conservative circuits in the US he's effectively now in federal prison for the rest of his life.  And if he makes it to release without having committed suicide first will have no family, be unemployable, and destitute.
 
2013-07-31 12:53:51 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: I guess it beats the guys living in tents because they can't live anywhere, but it doesn't really seem to solve the problem.


Valid point.

It may be the only legal place in South Florida for any of them to be.
 
2013-07-31 02:16:42 PM

padraig: IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?

One guy here on Fark said he always had first dates at the same bar, where an off-duty cop carded at the door. This ensured that the girl was 21.


Err, it's not a bad precaution, but it in no way ensures anybody's 21.  It should, but it doesn't.

Might buy you some flexibility at trial, IF you can get the cop to testify on your behalf.
 
2013-07-31 02:19:41 PM

hard h2o: I have a 14yo daughter. If some 18 or 19 yo dude came sniffing around I would not allow it.

That guy is not just someone drunk caught pissing in an alley with an indecent exposure conviction. He is not an 18yo with a 17yo gf. He belongs on that registry.


My sympathies, trying to raise a kid, but ten bucks says you'll be the LAST to know when she's dating.
 
2013-07-31 02:21:14 PM

hard h2o: h8sloplay: Agree that the vast majority of sex offenders on the list don't need to be there.  We waste milions of dollars managing this list.  Even Adam Walsh, who was the main push behind it, says it has gotten out of control.  I would rather take that money and only monitor the true risks and worry about the criminals that rob, steal and go through the revolving door of our jails only to commit more crimes. How about let's spend the money on mental health issues.  Problem is that no politician will vote to modify the registry for fear that they would be deemed soft on the issue and it would be used against them come re-election.  First thing a freshman senator or representative is told to do is introduce a bill against sex offenders.  Everyone will vote for it and it teaches them how the process works.  This doesn't even cover the big money that tether companies line the pockets of the politicians with to get these laws passed.
We are out of control as a country and big money has taken the driver's seat.

If they are in the federal prison system then I imagine that they did something much worse than flash some jogger.


Not necessarily.  Great article in the New Yorker a few months back about the central Fed location where they "treat" sex offenders...by requiring them to make up crimes they didn't commit, to "prove" they're embracing their guilt as the first step in treatment.
 
2013-07-31 02:24:09 PM

PunGent: hard h2o: h8sloplay: Agree that the vast majority of sex offenders on the list don't need to be there.  We waste milions of dollars managing this list.  Even Adam Walsh, who was the main push behind it, says it has gotten out of control.  I would rather take that money and only monitor the true risks and worry about the criminals that rob, steal and go through the revolving door of our jails only to commit more crimes. How about let's spend the money on mental health issues.  Problem is that no politician will vote to modify the registry for fear that they would be deemed soft on the issue and it would be used against them come re-election.  First thing a freshman senator or representative is told to do is introduce a bill against sex offenders.  Everyone will vote for it and it teaches them how the process works.  This doesn't even cover the big money that tether companies line the pockets of the politicians with to get these laws passed.
We are out of control as a country and big money has taken the driver's seat.

If they are in the federal prison system then I imagine that they did something much worse than flash some jogger.

Not necessarily.  Great article in the New Yorker a few months back about the central Fed location where they "treat" sex offenders...by requiring them to make up crimes they didn't commit, to "prove" they're embracing their guilt as the first step in treatment.



Correct.  The fed makes admission of guilt a prerequisite for any type of inside privileges or release considerations.  Even if one originally pleaded not guilty.  This is then all documented so if there is ever an appeal or issue where people go back to the case, they can then say 'see?  look.  they admitted it'.
 
2013-07-31 02:29:46 PM
We should be more like these guys:

fc09.deviantart.net

Put all the pervs in ghettos like these:
cdnstatic-1.mydestination.com

And then have the Army storm the place, executing all of them and their relatives. Difference is, the roles of "good guys" and "bad guys" are reversed.

/Fark the Constitution
 
2013-07-31 02:34:49 PM

PunGent: hard h2o: I have a 14yo daughter. If some 18 or 19 yo dude came sniffing around I would not allow it.

That guy is not just someone drunk caught pissing in an alley with an indecent exposure conviction. He is not an 18yo with a 17yo gf. He belongs on that registry.

My sympathies, trying to raise a kid, but ten bucks says you'll be the LAST to know when she's dating.


You are probably right. She is a straight A student. Very smart but a bit sneaky. She knows how I feel about dating at too early of an age. She knows how I feel about academics coming first.

If some predator did anything to my girl or my young son i fear what I might do. They would not need to bother with the sex offender list. No ITG here. I have just read enough stories about what these predators do to get me really riled up.
 
2013-07-31 02:51:20 PM

PunGent: padraig: IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?

One guy here on Fark said he always had first dates at the same bar, where an off-duty cop carded at the door. This ensured that the girl was 21.

Err, it's not a bad precaution, but it in no way ensures anybody's 21.  It should, but it doesn't.

Might buy you some flexibility at trial, IF you can get the cop to testify on your behalf.


IIRC, courts have thrown out the met-at-a-bar-who-should-have-carded-her defense for stat rape. Wish I could cite.
 
hej
2013-07-31 03:19:47 PM
Rather than just a town, I think we need an entire island that we can send these people to.
 
2013-07-31 03:30:42 PM

hej: Rather than just a town, I think we need an entire island that we can send these people to.


I still think my idea is better.
 
2013-07-31 05:12:42 PM
Sounds like Renton.
 
2013-07-31 06:46:45 PM
Solving Miracle Village municipal problems: "Who around here do I have to blow to get my trash picked up?"
 
2013-07-31 07:53:47 PM

hard h2o: I have a 14yo daughter. If some 18 or 19 yo dude came sniffing around I would not allow it.

That guy is not just someone drunk caught pissing in an alley with an indecent exposure conviction. He is not an 18yo with a 17yo gf. He belongs on that registry.


No, he doesn't.  If what he says is true.

Girls bumping their age up a couple/few years so their in the "ok" zone is absurdly common.  Now if he lowered his age to make it ok, well that's completely different.  If you're 14 year old is out there lying about their age and dating 19 year olds  mom and dad have the problem, not the 19 year olds.

Even if he knew, you're effectively saying life without parole is a reasonable punishment for his crime.
 
2013-07-31 08:36:22 PM
I know that girls these days look older than their years but if you can't tell that a girl is 14 then you need to be branded a pedophile. I would guess he knew something was fishy but didn't want to ask and ruin a good thing. I would give him 16 or 17 but not 14.

He "knew her for a year and dated her for a few months" how do things like schools and friends not come up?
 
2013-07-31 09:35:07 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: Christopher Dawson, a 22-year-old, is a registered sex offender prohibited from speaking to anyone under the age of 18. When he was 19, he had what he says is a consensual sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. He believed she was older.

This is pretty much bullshiat. Get the kid off the registry and let him lead a normal life for he did nothing that not a single one of us wouldn't do. I mean seriously who the fark thinks about carding people before sex?


They ALL say that, just like all rapists say "she was asking for it". I could possibly except that for a one-night stand (maybe, depends on other variables).

But an honest to god relationship spanning months, you had to know something was up.
 
2013-07-31 09:51:13 PM

hard h2o: I know that girls these days look older than their years but if you can't tell that a girl is 14 then you need to be branded a pedophile. I would guess he knew something was fishy but didn't want to ask and ruin a good thing. I would give him 16 or 17 but not 14.

He "knew her for a year and dated her for a few months" how do things like schools and friends not come up?


I started dating a 22 year old when I was 15.  I told him I was 17 so he knew I was in high school.  When I was 17 I dated a 20 year old who I told I was 18 and a senior in high school (which was half true).  I got busted when I asked him to buy me cigarettes.  There were a few brief 20 somethings in there too.  When you're in high school there aren't going to be much differences between the years in terms of details told to the guys unless he's really asking a lot of questions about classes or college which never really came up.  Also, they both knew I was under age and it didn't stop them from having sex with me anyway.  The one guy was a little pissed, but he still had sex with me afterwards.

In case anyone is wondering, yah I feel bad about lying to them now.  However, my parents never knew and frankly I'm not sure how much they would have cared.  They certainly never would have pressed charges.
 
2013-08-01 01:07:31 AM

PillsHere: hard h2o: I know that girls these days look older than their years but if you can't tell that a girl is 14 then you need to be branded a pedophile. I would guess he knew something was fishy but didn't want to ask and ruin a good thing. I would give him 16 or 17 but not 14.

He "knew her for a year and dated her for a few months" how do things like schools and friends not come up?

I started dating a 22 year old when I was 15.  I told him I was 17 so he knew I was in high school.  When I was 17 I dated a 20 year old who I told I was 18 and a senior in high school (which was half true).  I got busted when I asked him to buy me cigarettes.  There were a few brief 20 somethings in there too.  When you're in high school there aren't going to be much differences between the years in terms of details told to the guys unless he's really asking a lot of questions about classes or college which never really came up.   Also, they both knew I was under age and it didn't stop them from having sex with me anyway.  The one guy was a little pissed, but he still had sex with me afterwards.

In case anyone is wondering, yah I feel bad about lying to them now.  However, my parents never knew and frankly I'm not sure how much they would have cared.  They certainly never would have pressed charges.


Quite frankly, that sentence scares me a lot and is sort of the point I'm making. No offense but how did you meet these guys anyway?
 
2013-08-01 09:24:47 AM

hard h2o: PunGent: hard h2o: I have a 14yo daughter. If some 18 or 19 yo dude came sniffing around I would not allow it.

That guy is not just someone drunk caught pissing in an alley with an indecent exposure conviction. He is not an 18yo with a 17yo gf. He belongs on that registry.

My sympathies, trying to raise a kid, but ten bucks says you'll be the LAST to know when she's dating.

You are probably right. She is a straight A student. Very smart but a bit sneaky. She knows how I feel about dating at too early of an age. She knows how I feel about academics coming first.

If some predator did anything to my girl or my young son i fear what I might do. They would not need to bother with the sex offender list. No ITG here. I have just read enough stories about what these predators do to get me really riled up.


I've got nieces of my own, so I hear you...but remember that case few years back?  young daughter accuses neighbor, dad beats up neighbor, turns out daughter made the whole thing up?

Everyone thinks THEIR kids are above-average...mathematically speaking, many of them are wrong...
 
2013-08-01 09:30:52 AM

hard h2o: I know that girls these days look older than their years but if you can't tell that a girl is 14 then you need to be branded a pedophile. I would guess he knew something was fishy but didn't want to ask and ruin a good thing. I would give him 16 or 17 but not 14.

 I've done some professional modelling...14 made up to like like 24 is very common, particularly for females.


My tastes don't run that way, I like mature women...but a young guy who's had a couple drinks in a bar?  not all that easy to override what his eyes and his dick are telling him.

Couple that with hormones in our food and water; kids, particularly females, have been maturing physically earlier and earlier for the last few decades.
 
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