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2013-07-31 09:11:05 AM  
The convention in San Diego should definitely be held every July.

It should just be renamed to "Entertainment Con", or something like that, because it sure as hell isn't a Comic convention anymore.

Maybe it could even move away from San Diego, to a place that could accommodate more movie stars and film executives, and someone could start up an actual comic convention in San Diego to replace the one that they quit having years ago.
 
2013-07-31 10:48:02 AM  
So, will there be another riot this year?
 
2013-07-31 11:15:41 AM  
/CSB

The last time I was there (2004) working a booth during my few years in the comics industry, I saw an old man walking by, and his face looked really familiar to me. I glanced down at his nametag and noticed that it was Will Eisner, one of the gods of comics and the guy who the big comic book awards are named after.

I was a little starstruck and didn't seize the moment. He, in the meantime, looked confused and overwhelmed. He passed on by, and I didn't say a word to him. (I'm sure he would have been gracious, but he really didn't need yet another starry-eyed would-be creator praising him, so I don't feel too bad about that.)

A few months later, he died, so I never had another chance to speak to him.

Incidentally, 2004 was bad enough. I've heard the con has gotten even more ridiculous and unbearable for exhibitors since then.
 
2013-07-31 11:18:56 AM  
They need to make Sunday a free day. It would be great for the vendors. All the good stuff is sold out Saturday.
 
2013-07-31 11:40:13 AM  
And on the eighth day the B.O. did raise such a stench booth exhibitors did lose their fear of death, for they knew the sweet release would only end their time on Golgotha.
 
2013-07-31 11:49:30 AM  
Back in the day at the con ('89) I had an extended conversation with Jack Kirby about Kammandi.  He had a booth and was meeting the fans.  Kammandi was obviously one of his favorite projects, I commented on a couple of the stories in the series and JK went *off*.  He got really excited and started telling me and a friend all these cool anecdotes about the series, and then he segued into a discussion on his life in general during the golden age.

Typically he would shake hands and speak to a fan for a minute or so, but for some reason I inadvertantly said the right thing and he talked with us for 15 minutes!  It was frikkin' *brilliant*.
 
2013-07-31 11:59:38 AM  
The fans who attend are such caricatures and tools, paying all of that money to attend only to ask celebrities the stupidest questions, kissing their asses, etc.
 
2013-07-31 12:20:16 PM  
Move some of the Hall H Programming to Petco Park.  That way, you have an environment that can actually seat 10% of the attendees.
 
2013-07-31 12:49:39 PM  
I hear the one they put on in Anaheim is more like the way it used to be in SD before they turned it into Pop-Culture Con. I'd be interested in checking that one out. I have a feeling I'd just get stabby at San Diego.
 
2013-07-31 12:56:21 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: The convention in San Diego should definitely be held every July.

It should just be renamed to "Entertainment Con", or something like that, because it sure as hell isn't a Comic convention anymore.

Maybe it could even move away from San Diego, to a place that could accommodate more movie stars and film executives, and someone could start up an actual comic convention in San Diego to replace the one that they quit having years ago.


Parents always say that they want their children to 'have a better life than they did'.  When the children actually do have a better life, the parents hate them for it.  Avenger comics gave birth to Avenger movies and now it's all butthurt and bitter tears. Rather than 'Quit liking what I don't like!', it's 'Quit liking what I do like!'  Geek hipsterism.  Yeesh.
 
2013-07-31 12:59:51 PM  
I came for the hot female cosplayers.  Whar, whar?!?!
 
2013-07-31 01:14:24 PM  

thornhill: The fans who attend are such caricatures and tools, paying all of that money to attend only to ask celebrities the stupidest questions, kissing their asses, etc.


Yeah, how dare they spend their free time how they wish and enjoy the things they enjoy. They should stop liking what you don't like.
 
2013-07-31 02:25:58 PM  

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: FirstNationalBastard: The convention in San Diego should definitely be held every July.

It should just be renamed to "Entertainment Con", or something like that, because it sure as hell isn't a Comic convention anymore.

Maybe it could even move away from San Diego, to a place that could accommodate more movie stars and film executives, and someone could start up an actual comic convention in San Diego to replace the one that they quit having years ago.

Parents always say that they want their children to 'have a better life than they did'.  When the children actually do have a better life, the parents hate them for it.  Avenger comics gave birth to Avenger movies and now it's all butthurt and bitter tears. Rather than 'Quit liking what I don't like!', it's 'Quit liking what I do like!'  Geek hipsterism.  Yeesh.



But is it actually better now?  It's certainly bigger, but as to "better"...that can be debated.  Before it morphed into what it is now, it was simply one of the coolest events in the city (hell, the country).  Comic dealers came from all over the world to participate, and fans could get tickets easily and casually browse the entire show with little to no difficulty.

These days it seems as if there is a lot of disappointment related to the event...it's gotten so huge you can't possibly see all of it, even if you do manage to get tickets, which from what I see is difficult.  And My CSB about Jack Kirby above is an example...it's unlikely a fan would get to mingle with the greats for any length as was the case back in the day, or at least it's way more rare now.

One of the best cities for comics was DC though.  I'm not sure if they still do it now, but in the late 80s & early 90s the local comic dealers were a tight group.  Once a month they held the local comic gathering they called Serendipity.  And when Creation came to town it was rad.

How about now?  Any folks from DC...do they still do the Serendipity shows?
 
2013-07-31 04:26:28 PM  

ristst: Parents always say that they want their children to 'have a better life than they did'. When the children actually do have a better life, the parents hate them for it. Avenger comics gave birth to Avenger movies and now it's all butthurt and bitter tears. Rather than 'Quit liking what I don't like!', it's 'Quit liking what I do like!' Geek hipsterism. Yeesh.


But is it actually better now? It's certainly bigger, but as to "better"...that can be debated.


The 'children' I was referring to were the movies based on the parent comics, not the convention.  By a lot of conventional measures, such as revenue and audience size, the life of the movie is vastly better than the life of the comic.  Other values may give different results.  In any case, succeeding generations will change an event.

'Man, you remember the early days at Bayreuth?  You could hang with the Kaiser and Krazy King Ludwig and Cosima would give everybody cookies with little icing dragons on them.  The cosplaying Rheinmaidens were soooooooo hot!

Later, I remember one time when Hitler and Goebbels were autographing fans' boobs and it was so lame...especially Goering's flabby man-tits.  It just wasn't the same.'
 
2013-07-31 05:54:19 PM  
Cant they just call it "Costume Con" and be done with it?
 
2013-07-31 08:45:27 PM  
Nope, keep calling it Comic-con.
It gives a general theme.

So what if they are drawing outside the lines...that's art.
It's exciting.
It's inspiring.

Sure it's exhausting, sure I feel like I didn't see everything...and for as long as I want.
Don't care...like a kid on a ride, "Do It Again!"
I'll go back everytime.

Why does everyone have to be a friggin' purist??
See the sights, enjoy the experience.
 
2013-08-01 02:06:22 AM  
I don't think expanding it to 11 days will change anything, unless you require people to buy one or the other set of days. A couple ideas to improve the current situation with crowds and lack of ability to get tickets

1)  No 4-day passes.  Make everyone buy individual day passes.  That way people who are only planning on going 2-3 days won't use up a day that others can buy.

2)  Float the prices.  Since the passes sell out so quickly, it is clear they are priced too low.  How much will people really pay for a ticket?

3) Expand the convention beyond the Convention Center.  This is on the table every year.  Anaheim would love to take over Comic Con in their facilities.  I think either San Diego is going to have to undertake massive expansion, or Anaheim will be home within the next few years.
 
2013-08-01 04:47:39 AM  
It's over. Can we please STFU about it at least until the hype begins again next year?
 
2013-08-01 04:59:28 AM  
If I were a criminal Mastermind, I'd have all of my minions strategically placed throughout the convention center with small rebreather masks concealed but ready to wear.

At the precise pre-determined moment, they all would shout "SUCK IN YOUR GUT, FATASS!" at the same exact time.

Fanboys throughout the building would suddenly fill up their lungs at the same time, sucking all the oxygen out of the room, and 100K people black out.

Bust into the box office while everyone's out cold and make off with a sh*tload of cash.
 
2013-08-01 06:11:34 AM  

ristst: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: FirstNationalBastard: The convention in San Diego should definitely be held every July.

It should just be renamed to "Entertainment Con", or something like that, because it sure as hell isn't a Comic convention anymore.

Maybe it could even move away from San Diego, to a place that could accommodate more movie stars and film executives, and someone could start up an actual comic convention in San Diego to replace the one that they quit having years ago.

Parents always say that they want their children to 'have a better life than they did'.  When the children actually do have a better life, the parents hate them for it.  Avenger comics gave birth to Avenger movies and now it's all butthurt and bitter tears. Rather than 'Quit liking what I don't like!', it's 'Quit liking what I do like!'  Geek hipsterism.  Yeesh.


But is it actually better now?  It's certainly bigger, but as to "better"...that can be debated.  Before it morphed into what it is now, it was simply one of the coolest events in the city (hell, the country).  Comic dealers came from all over the world to participate, and fans could get tickets easily and casually browse the entire show with little to no difficulty.

These days it seems as if there is a lot of disappointment related to the event...it's gotten so huge you can't possibly see all of it, even if you do manage to get tickets, which from what I see is difficult.  And My CSB about Jack Kirby above is an example...it's unlikely a fan would get to mingle with the greats for any length as was the case back in the day, or at least it's way more rare now.

One of the best cities for comics was DC though.  I'm not sure if they still do it now, but in the late 80s & early 90s the local comic dealers were a tight group.  Once a month they held the local comic gathering they called Serendipity.  And when Creation came to town it was rad.

How about now?  Any folks from DC...do they still do the Serendipity shows?


I'm from Baltimore and know the con game close. No Serendipity that I've heard of lately. Baltimore comicon is still going strong though. Although this year they have Kevin Smith and Mewes screening their cartoon movie for quite a bit extra to see.
 
2013-08-01 10:07:37 AM  
I went for the first time this year, and was surprised how hard it was to get into a main hall.  I tried waiting 5 hours for Hall H, gave up, then waited two to get into Indigo before giving up.

Tried again the next day, this time getting to Indego an hour before opening, but by 10Am security said to forget it, anyone at my place in line wouldn't be getting into until around 5PM, if at all.

It looks like people get into a hall and then camp out all day.  It would be more equitable if there was a way you could actually get into a Comic-con event without having to camp out.  I suggested one of these:

1. All of the major halls clear after each event.  If you want to come back you have to get back in line.  This would insure everyone got to see something at least, even if it wasn't exactly what they wanted.

2. Raffle attendance at the major events, like the masquerade, but do it online.  Its ridiculous people had to wait hours in line just for a chance to get tickets, when technology could have easily done the raffle when we bought our tickets online.
 
2013-08-01 04:46:24 PM  
Or have the talks be ticket based, that way there's no one taking up space in talks just to get into the one or two talks they want to go to.

Take it to Las Vegas as well so you can handle the load of people and media expansion or expand the convention centre.

I may go next year and just simply not go to the convention centre and roam the side events.
 
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