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(Boing Boing)   "Meet Glass, Lewis and Co., the company that got a food truck employee fired for offending them on Twitter"   (boingboing.net) divider line 261
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2013-07-31 12:29:08 AM  
Glass, Lewis and Co., caused what?!
 
2013-07-31 01:56:43 AM  
I never tipped the food truck guy. Then again I haven't ordered from one in over 10 years, so times may have changed.
 
2013-07-31 02:02:51 AM  
Here's a tip: If you need more money, charge more.
 
2013-07-31 02:44:05 AM  
I can't imagine spending $170 on food from a truck. Then again, I've never heard of a food truck with a delivery boy. The entire restaurant has f*cking wheels, right?
 
2013-07-31 04:31:57 AM  
$170 is a lot of food from a food truck, and I'm sure they hustled to get it done (so they wouldn't complain.)  The least they could do was tip the guy.  Geez.
 
2013-07-31 04:34:44 AM  
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Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.
 
2013-07-31 04:36:53 AM  
Tipping thread!!!

/this isn't a bookmark to read the impending alpha male battle royal.
 
2013-07-31 04:39:18 AM  
I hope they give their client's better advice than they do tips.

http://www.glasslewis.com/about-glass-lewis/contact-us/
 
2013-07-31 04:39:55 AM  
Apparently, it is not okay to publicly out a non-tipper on Twitter, because that is embarrassing to the company who can afford to buy $170 worth of ONE DAY'S lunch, but not show any appreciation to the food truck owner.

So, that is a good d*ck move......Glass, Lewis, & Co......by just firing them for their honesty! That's going to make all of the other food service delivery companies in the area really want your business in the future.
 
2013-07-31 04:47:31 AM  
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2013-07-31 04:56:05 AM  
You're suppose to tip food truck workers? Can I have a list of who should be tipped in America or maybe it'd be easier to come up with a list of people who don't get tips. Does this mean the owner of the food truck pays their workers $2.13/hr?
 
2013-07-31 04:56:07 AM  
I am a tip promoter, but why would I tip a food truck?
 
2013-07-31 04:58:51 AM  
They should have just replied "That's because you didn't deserve a tip."
 
2013-07-31 04:59:11 AM  

HotWingAgenda: I can't imagine spending $170 on food from a truck. Then again, I've never heard of a food truck with a delivery boy. The entire restaurant has f*cking wheels, right?


It's probably their fancy term for "minimum wage food industry worker". Once they start cleaning their truck at the end of the day they become "Sanitation technicians".

I hope this story goes viral and shame both GL&co and Milk Truck both get humuiliated publicly. Then again, since GL&co are in the business of screwing people's money over, they probably don't give a crap about it.
 
2013-07-31 04:59:45 AM  

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.


You sound poor.
 
2013-07-31 05:04:05 AM  

Eps05: HotWingAgenda: I can't imagine spending $170 on food from a truck. Then again, I've never heard of a food truck with a delivery boy. The entire restaurant has f*cking wheels, right?

It's probably their fancy term for "minimum wage food industry worker". Once they start cleaning their truck at the end of the day they become "Sanitation technicians".

I hope this story goes viral and shame both GL&co and Milk Truck both get humuiliated publicly. Then again, since GL&co are in the business of screwing people's money over, they probably don't give a crap about it.


They gave enough of a crap to get someone fired over it. Folks, be annoyed by $7 grilled cheese (although have you SEEN the price of imported cheese??). Be annoyed about some suits with their $170 order holding up everyone else on their lunch break. One guy's flippant response to the situation on Twitter? Let it slide... I'd like to see those calling for his head stand over a hot grill for 8+ hours a day and see if they still feel that way.

/avoids food service
//I did my time
 
2013-07-31 05:11:32 AM  
The last thing you want is every employee making policy,and talking about your business without authorization.
 
2013-07-31 05:13:40 AM  
I'll tip food trucks, though around here that usually means they're selling frybread.

Which if you've never seen it or eaten it looks like this if you order whats known as a Navajo Taco around here.
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They're also farking delicious with either powder sugar or honey or hell both. The people selling these by the roadside usually need the extra money and for these wonderful bastards I'll gladly tip if it means they can still operate and sell me more. I'll tip even more if they got homemade hotsauce that burns my nostrils walking up to the truck.

With that said hipster/artisan food trucks that sell grilled cheese sandwiches for $7 will be lucky if I buy something from them. Which is weird since I'll go to cleaner looking restaurants over skeezy ones any day, but with food trucks I'll buy something from the ones that look like they're still running from the Zeta's over ones that aim for these guys.
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2013-07-31 05:29:31 AM  
If I own a business, and an employee shames a big customer like that, you're damn right I'd fire them.
 
2013-07-31 05:31:19 AM  
I have absolutely no sympathy for overpriced food truck tourist behemoths clogging up the city and nudging out the Salvadoran couple that makes the best pupusas in town, or their internal political struggles.

echostains.files.wordpress.com

BY GOLLY, WE SHOULD START A FOOD TRUCK, LIKE THE COLOREDS!
 
2013-07-31 05:33:51 AM  
Glass, Lewis and Co. ....

You have lost my business, and any referrals I might ever give because of your actions.   First)  Cheap bastards, nickle and diming the little guy?   Second)  Crushing some poor dude who works on a food truck.

Food Truck worker dude...   Tips are always voluntary.  You were wrong to shame them.  People are schmucks, get used to it.   If you don't want bad tips, get out of the business entirely.

Food Truck Owner dude...   You need clear policies and expectations.
 
2013-07-31 05:35:17 AM  
Jayberrysparklesalot:
So, that is a good d*ck move......Glass, Lewis, & Co......by just firing them for their honesty! That's going to make all of the other food service delivery companies in the area really want your business in the future.

They just got the low level employee fired.  The caterer decided they wanted the company's business more than they wanted to support their minion, and other caterers will not care either.  Which is fair enough, given how much loyalty employees can expect from the average employer.  And it was pretty dumb to complain on the net about these cheap farks, he isn't the first person to be fired for this sort of thing.

Eps05:
I hope this story goes viral and shame both GL&co and Milk Truck both get humuiliated publicly. Then again, since GL&co are in the business of screwing people's money over, they probably don't give a crap about it.

They do business with other businesses, who don't care how they behave publicly.
 
2013-07-31 05:36:24 AM  
1. Tip shaming by name is NEVER okay. If you need the reasons why spelled out, you probably shouldn't be in food service.
2. Glass-Lewis Co. didn't "get" the guy fired. His boss fired him. Period.
3. Some people who buy $7 cheese sandwiches are ashholes. That's a risk of doing business with the public.
 
2013-07-31 05:39:57 AM  
Oh, they only gave you the agreed upon amount and nothing else? Man, it must suck to only get $170 for some sandwiches.
 
2013-07-31 05:41:35 AM  
I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.
 
2013-07-31 05:43:09 AM  

queezyweezel: Here's a tip: If you need more money, charge more.


Then you can evolve from being that guy who b*tches about tipping into that guy who b*tches about high prices. That will be a dazzling surefire conversation starter.

www.givememyremote.com
 
2013-07-31 05:45:12 AM  

serial_crusher: Oh, they only gave you the agreed upon amount and nothing else? Man, it must suck to only get $170 for some sandwiches.


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2013-07-31 05:46:09 AM  

Jayberrysparklesalot: Apparently, it is not okay to publicly out a non-tipper on Twitter, because that is embarrassing to the company who can afford to buy $170 worth of ONE DAY'S lunch, but not show any appreciation to the food truck owner.

So, that is a good d*ck move......Glass, Lewis, & Co......by just firing them for their honesty! That's going to make all of the other food service delivery companies in the area really want your business in the future.


Err, it sounds like the owner has no problem at all taking their money. HE got paid.

Though, given his article, I can't help but think this guy was one of "those" employees who nobody really wants to work with, because he's always wanting to be treated better than the rest of the crew. If he was really good or efficient at his job, he wouldn't have been fired because this publicity WOULD have brought other clientele to the truck.
 
2013-07-31 05:46:18 AM  
For those of you bemoaning the cost of some grilled cheese sammiches just consider that any fancy melted cheese sammich is called a 'grilled cheese' these days.  All manner of fixins including sauteed veggies and truffle slices... sometimes even meat.
 
2013-07-31 05:47:07 AM  

puffy999: so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.


They sell the drugs to the managers, waiters, and customers by proxy.  Have you ever tipped a drug dealer?
 
2013-07-31 05:48:14 AM  
Everybody knows that you don't effect tip-stiffing revenge with a Tweet. That's a revenge best served cold on their next order.

/"Patience - young grasshopper, patience..."
 
2013-07-31 05:51:23 AM  
I tip the food truck Cinnamon Snail when I order from them because the food is absolutly AMAZING. (And I'm not a vegan). Also the halal cart on Brighton 5th cuz he gives me free food sometimes and has some of the best chicken rice
 
2013-07-31 05:54:26 AM  

Sigh...: Glass, Lewis and Co. ....

You have lost my business, and any referrals I might ever give because of your actions.   First)  Cheap bastards, nickle and diming the little guy?   Second)  Crushing some poor dude who works on a food truck.

Food Truck worker dude...   Tips are always voluntary.  You were wrong to shame them.  People are schmucks, get used to it.   If you don't want bad tips, get out of the business entirely.

Food Truck Owner dude...   You need clear policies and expectations.


Well said.

An 170$ order deserves a tip, even to 'a food truck'.

/has delivered catering orders to companies, almost all tipped. Often on less money and less peak times.
 
2013-07-31 05:56:12 AM  
It's all the fault of teachers. Canadian teachers.

Ownership
Indirect wholly-owned subsidiary of Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan Board ("OTPP")

http://www.glasslewis.com/about-glass-lewis/

/guy has done a good job of making himself less employable.
 
2013-07-31 05:56:24 AM  
'Twitter' seems to be pretty much a minefield with companies looking for any excuse to lighten their employee load.

I'm looking for the day when Twitter only exists as an answer to a question on a trivia game.
 
2013-07-31 05:58:53 AM  
Much easier to refuse to serve them.
 
2013-07-31 05:59:56 AM  

RoyBatty: The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches


You really don't understand why people would pay $7 for good cheese grilled on fresh-baked bread? I mean, if you like kraft singles on wonderbread, more power to you, but if you want nicer food, you're gonna pay for it, and $7 isn't outrageous, unless you're making minimum wage.
 
2013-07-31 06:00:56 AM  
I tip for take-away.

/and I Top, as a take-away
 
2013-07-31 06:02:45 AM  
Also, oh noes, what will the 413 people that follow them on twitter think?

/200 of those are probably employees.
 
2013-07-31 06:04:05 AM  

queezyweezel: Here's a tip: If you need more money, charge more.


The owners don't need more money, and the industry has devoted hundreds of millions of lobbying dollars to ensuring that, in the US, delivery workers and waiters are subject to a far lower (way sub-poverty) minimum wage. Frankly... your post is so out of touch with reality that I question whether you are delusional, or just trolling. Some millionaires got together with some other millionaires and decided 3 bucks an hour was a fine wage, because morons like you would continue to blame the poor.
 
2013-07-31 06:04:14 AM  

thamike: Have you ever tipped a drug dealer?


YES!!!

/Seriously, is this *THAT* hard?! You want good service? You tip with cash/goods/cookies/whatever you got on hand
 
2013-07-31 06:06:35 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: You really don't understand why people would pay $7 for good cheese grilled on fresh-baked bread?


What i don't understand is that a company would pay $170 for grilled cheese sandwiches that won't be arriving at the office for at least 30 minutes, if not an hour.  It defeats the purpose of the grilled cheese sandwich, which is to be eaten immediately, while hot and soft on the inside and crunchy on the outside.  Who wants expensive, deliciously scented spackle for lunch?
 
2013-07-31 06:08:00 AM  

mekkab: thamike: Have you ever tipped a drug dealer?

YES!!!

/Seriously, is this *THAT* hard?! You want good service? You tip with cash/goods/cookies/whatever you got on hand


i said drug dealer, not pot dealer.  Completely different relationships.
 
2013-07-31 06:09:47 AM  
You're supposed to tip at a roach coach? For what??? To get a meal with fewer insects and e. coli in it?
 
2013-07-31 06:11:36 AM  
I get the odd sensation that glass Lewis thought tip was included and the truck owner just didn't tell his cook.

I don't normally tip a food truck, but I'd throw a 3 digit order a $20 if he was on time and the food was good.
 
2013-07-31 06:12:21 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: You're supposed to tip at a roach coach? For what??? To get a meal with fewer insects and e. coli in it?


For what? In this case, delivery, because in the US, we've decided that instead of minimum wage, delivery people should be subject to the whims of a-holes like you. Mostly though, I tip them because even on a good tip day, they still have to deal with jackasses who think that food-service employees make decent money.
 
2013-07-31 06:21:50 AM  

firefly212: Prank Call of Cthulhu: You're supposed to tip at a roach coach? For what??? To get a meal with fewer insects and e. coli in it?

For what? In this case, delivery, because in the US, we've decided that instead of minimum wage, delivery people should be subject to the whims of a-holes like you. Mostly though, I tip them because even on a good tip day, they still have to deal with jackasses who think that food-service employees make decent money.


Delivery? Are we reading the same article? From the story that the boingboing blog links to:

"The other rainy Monday morning, business was slow when a group of about a dozen customers sprinted up....I asked some of the group as they were picking up their orders if they had intended to not tip. "

It's food cooked in a truck. Nothing good--hygienically or culinary--comes of that. The only reason I can think of to consume food that has been made in a vehicle is because calories are needed, there are no other options, and you like gambling with your intestinal health. Eating roach coach food is a bad decision to begin with, but tipping for the privilege of shoveling dodgy food into your mouth seems like an even worse one. Tipping at a roach coach seems an awful lot like tipping at a fast food restaurant: not done.
 
2013-07-31 06:26:07 AM  

Sigh...: Glass, Lewis and Co. ....

You have lost my business, and any referrals I might ever give because of your actions.   First)  Cheap bastards, nickle and diming the little guy?   Second)  Crushing some poor dude who works on a food truck.

Food Truck worker dude...   Tips are always voluntary.  You were wrong to shame them.  People are schmucks, get used to it.   If you don't want bad tips, get out of the business entirely.

Food Truck Owner dude...   You need clear policies and expectations.


Sounds like he has one.  Food truck cooks are not permitted to badmouth customers on twitter or they will be fired.  Pretty reasonable too
 
2013-07-31 06:26:17 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: RoyBatty: The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches

You really don't understand why people would pay $7 for good cheese grilled on fresh-baked bread? I mean, if you like kraft singles on wonderbread, more power to you, but if you want nicer food, you're gonna pay for it, and $7 isn't outrageous, unless you're making minimum wage.


I'd farking love to pay that $7 for grilled cheese because that would be pretty goddamned cheap for the Bay Area. I pay that for a premade sammich at Whole Foods.

You don't have to tip a food truck, unless you're pre-placing an order. Then you damn well should. And you especially should if you're placing an office order of any kind, ESPECIALLY one that's delivered in the City or Silicon Valley.

And anyone working in the City at a company like that...is doing well enough to farking tip.
 
2013-07-31 06:28:28 AM  

angrycrank: RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.

You sound poor.


And like someone who eats soup straight from a can normally (bowls for special occasions only).
 
2013-07-31 06:29:01 AM  

E5bie: 1. Tip shaming by name is NEVER okay. If you need the reasons why spelled out, you probably shouldn't be in food service.


If you need the reasons spelled out to you, you deserve to be in food service, doing a job where you get minimum wage and have to rely on people giving you charity for doing your job
 
2013-07-31 06:30:29 AM  

puffy999: I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.


Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.
 
2013-07-31 06:32:54 AM  

firefly212: For what? In this case, delivery, because in the US, we've decided that instead of minimum wage, delivery people should be subject to the whims of a-holes like you. Mostly though, I tip them because even on a good tip day, they still have to deal with jackasses who think that food-service employees make decent money.


If you look at yelp, there are a farkton of complaints from one of my go to places about the slow deliveries. I always tip the driver $5, food always arrives in 15-20 minutes.  People don't tip and then wonder why their Pizza takes an hour and half to deliver. Seriously, I work 8 hours, I bag $400, I'm not going to stiff an old Mexican guy.  Because sure, it's menial job, so I'm farking happy someones there to do it, and who knows what path leads someone into that business.

Seriously a law firm, buying lunch on the company dime and the boss man is too cheap to tip, but enough of a piece of work as to complain instead of just tipping an extra $20 next time.
 
2013-07-31 06:34:03 AM  

Not_Todd: If I own a business, and an employee shames a big customer like that, you're damn right I'd fire them.


Publicly, with a public apology to the client, so that other customers can rake your business over the coals and perhaps go elsewhere?

The owner screwed the PR pooch pretty hard on this one - although not as much as the guys at the VC firm, who will probably be eating saliva and semen in every order of delivery food they get from now on. At a bare minimum.
 
2013-07-31 06:37:43 AM  

furterfan: E5bie: 1. Tip shaming by name is NEVER okay. If you need the reasons why spelled out, you probably shouldn't be in food service.

If you need the reasons spelled out to you, you deserve to be in food service, doing a job where you get minimum wage and have to rely on people giving you charity for doing your job


Doesn't seem like the guy cares much about his job - he doesn't seem heartbroken to have lost it, and had to have known that doing that would get him canned, likely. Hopefully he'll have some fun publicly shaming the cocksuckers @ Glass, and cost them some business, and then move on with life and forget it. It's not like his boss did him wrong by firing him under these circumstances.
 
2013-07-31 06:38:45 AM  

furterfan: E5bie: 1. Tip shaming by name is NEVER okay. If you need the reasons why spelled out, you probably shouldn't be in food service.

If you need the reasons spelled out to you, you deserve to be in food service, doing a job where you get minimum wage and have to rely on people giving you charity for doing your job


If you only want inferior persons preparing and serving your food, you deserve what you're unwittingly eating.
 
2013-07-31 06:39:49 AM  

Southern100: puffy999: I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.

Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.


I'm with you on the others, but I would tip if I did that......
 
2013-07-31 06:40:26 AM  
I tip anyone that handles food... Not just because I spent much of my young adulthood working in restaurants (from short order diners to high-end restaurants) and know what a ball-busting, shiat pay job it is, but also because it's probably a bad idea to get on the wrong side of people who handle your food. (The things I've seen done to the food people put in their mouths. *shiver*)


Anyway, the only time I won't tip is if the service is horrible and then I generally never go back to that spot.

Kind of shiatty to buy that much food from a food truck and not even give the guy a token tip, in my opinion... But biatching about it on Twiitter was dumb. Should have just taken your revenge with the next order, kid.
 
2013-07-31 06:41:51 AM  
Twitter makes me happy.
 
2013-07-31 06:42:16 AM  
If you publicly shame customers, you should probably expect to get your ass fired. And yes, social media counts as public these days.
 
2013-07-31 06:43:20 AM  

Southern100: puffy999: I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.

Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.


You can't and don't preorder food for 70 people at McDonalds. Or Wendy's. Or Jack in the Box. Oh sure perhaps a wee place in Peoria will...but in San Francisco? AHAHAHA. No. fark no. Especially NOT during the lunch rush.
They didn't order the food and pick it up, it was delivered.
If you pre-order food, and have it delivered...you should tip. Don't be a farking jackass. If you place a large order for food for an entire office, you should also tip.
 
2013-07-31 06:46:31 AM  

Southern100: Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.


1) It's more like a mobile fast food steam box, with less space. Incidentally, I didn't realize all of those fast food places delivered.

2) I would, but why the f*ck would "I" order that much food from anywhere, much less a Pizza Hut?
 

3) No, but I don't go to Wal Mart and certainly don't buy their disgusting meat. Of course, if WalMart DROVE TO MY F*CKING WORK and cut up some meat, I may actually consider tipping them.

Of course, "I" am not making a large order for a business that's not exactly struggling for money. A mobile food truck is a small space and it can only move so fast, so as was stated earlier, this order may have taken away a chance for other orders or potential tips (oddly enough, I know how some companies actually operate/schedule routes for their food trucks, but not from work experience). And, as has also been said, it's often REQUIRED for large orders to leave some sort of tip at just about any restaurant; though clearly not required in this case, I'd have assumed anyone making a few grand a month could manage to toss a couple bucks in the tip jar as a common courtesy (or the company could've left $20 extra on the receipt), EVEN IF tipping at a food truck is not the general rule.
 
2013-07-31 06:49:52 AM  
Wow. What a whiny, entitled, little prick.

The justice or injustice of tipping is a question again under hot debate; the incivility of failing to leave a tip on an order of that size, in the current arrangement of things, is not. There is a reason so many restaurants impose a mandatory tip on parties of a certain size.

It's not a restaurant, farkwit. You don't have servers whose time is disproportionately taken up by larger groups, you don't even deliver. The difference between a dozen customers and one bill and a dozen customers and a dozen bills is that you only have to process one transaction.
 
2013-07-31 06:51:30 AM  
Lady Indica:You can't and don't preorder food for 70 people at McDonalds. Or Wendy's. Or Jack in the Box. Oh sure perhaps a wee place in Peoria will...but in San Francisco? AHAHAHA. No. fark no. Especially NOT during the lunch rush.
They didn't order the food and pick it up, it was delivered. [Wrong]
If you pre-order food, and have it delivered...you should tip. Don't be a farking jackass. If you place a large order for food for an entire office, you should also tip.


Sure you can. Tour buses stop in at McDonalds and other fast food restaurants all the time.

And you need to read the article, M'Lady.

"Anyway. The other rainy Monday morning, business was slow when a group of about a dozen customers sprinted up. This was at our second location, a stall the company opened in South Street Seaport to support the area while Hurricane Sandy repairs were happening. This group placed a huge order: three of this sandwich, four of another, three of the one that takes forever on the grill, two of the one that takes forever to assemble. Five or six milkshakes. The order came to just under $170."

A dozen customers. Individually. NO DELIVERY.
 
2013-07-31 06:52:01 AM  

Lady Indica: If you pre-order food, and have it delivered...you should tip. Don't be a farking jackass. If you place a large order for food for an entire office, you


Pretty much... The kid was stupid for taking to Twitter over it (Kids today, I tell ya), but total dick move on the company's part; both for not tipping and for filing a complaint with the owner of the truck about the Tweet.
 
2013-07-31 06:55:05 AM  

FarkinNortherner: It's not a restaurant, farkwit. You don't have servers whose time is disproportionately taken up by larger groups, you don't even deliver. The difference between a dozen customers and one bill and a dozen customers and a dozen bills is that you only have to process one transaction.


This. As far as I can tell, if anyone deserves to be tipped (and they don't) it's the other folks who queued up for "food" from the roach coach because they assumed it would be a quick turn around, and then had to wait while the staff prepared this enormous order. You could argue that maybe Lewis and Glass and Co should have given the other folks in line tips for holding them up. You'd be wrong, but you'd be less wrong than arguing you should tip the roach coach staff.
 
2013-07-31 06:55:05 AM  

Lady Indica: They didn't order the food and pick it up, it was delivered.
If you pre-order food, and have it delivered...you should tip. Don't be a farking jackass. If you place a large order for food for an entire office, you should also tip.


None of these things actually happened.
 
2013-07-31 06:57:56 AM  
Here's a tip, don't expect a tip.
 
2013-07-31 07:00:27 AM  

poorjon: If you publicly shame customers, you should probably expect to get your ass fired. And yes, social media counts as public these days.


And, if you're a no-tipping, poor-guy-firing business, you should also expect social media to come down on you.

If I worked at that place I would NEVER eat any food the office had brought in. Because every delivery they get from now on will be tainted.
 
2013-07-31 07:01:11 AM  

poorjon: If you publicly shame customers, you should probably expect to get your ass fired. And yes, social media counts as public these days.


How much did Glass, Lewis and Co give to God?
 
2013-07-31 07:03:04 AM  

Lauraness: I tip the food truck Cinnamon Snail when I order from them because the food is absolutly AMAZING. (And I'm not a vegan). Also the halal cart on Brighton 5th cuz he gives me free food sometimes and has some of the best chicken rice


I have honestly never been AMAZED by food. I don't really think it is possible.
 
2013-07-31 07:05:48 AM  

Southern100: "Anyway. The other rainy Monday morning, business was slow when a group of about a dozen customers sprinted up. This was at our second location, a stall the company opened in South Street Seaport to support the area while Hurricane Sandy repairs were happening. This group placed a huge order: three of this sandwich, four of another, three of the one that takes forever on the grill, two of the one that takes forever to assemble. Five or six milkshakes. The order came to just under $170."

A dozen customers. Individually. NO DELIVERY


Yeah, why woudl you tip a food truck if you are picking it up?

i don't tip at carryout.
 
2013-07-31 07:06:21 AM  

KeatingFive: poorjon: If you publicly shame customers, you should probably expect to get your ass fired. And yes, social media counts as public these days.

And, if you're a no-tipping, poor-guy-firing business, you should also expect social media to come down on you.

If I worked at that place I would NEVER eat any food the office had brought in. Because every delivery they get from now on will be tainted.


Just so I understand this correctly:  You think food workers, who we should tip because their jobs are so hard, will mess with anyone from a companies order because 12 people in what may be a large firm didn't tip correctly on a bill from some other business that you have nothing to do with?

The worker sounds kind of like a whiny asshole too.  If certain sandwiches are so hard to make because they require more time on the grill, or are 'complicated to assemble' then don't serve them or charge more.  fark this 'oh yeah thats the special today but I am going to be a martyr for having to make it' bullshiat..  It really isn't completely shocking that a guy biatching about that kind of thing, then running around asking people if they forgot to tip, didn't get tipped.
 
2013-07-31 07:08:21 AM  

keylock71: I tip anyone that handles food...


Why stop there? After all, a tip is for excellent SERVICE, correct? So why not tip everyone in the service industry?

For instant, there's people out there that tip their mailman at Christmas every year (I'm one of them), but how about the guy that stuffs the mail into your P.O. Box day after day?

I even tip my GARBAGE collectors at Christmas. Do any of ya'll? My neighbors cans might be strewn all around their yard, but mine are (usually) upright, in the same spot they were when I put them out the night before.

But then there's cases like the guy at the local Gamestop, who spent 30 minutes with you going over the differences between the PS3 and the XBox 360. Do you tip him?

Or the geek at your local Best Buy, who extolled upon you the virtues of the various laptops they have, and which one will best serve your needs?

How about the Airline check-in ticket attendant who takes your bags and whisks them away (probably never to be seen again)? You'd tip the curb guy, why not the guy behind the desk who gives you your tickets and takes your bags there?

Good service doesn't just come from waiters & waitresses...
 
2013-07-31 07:09:17 AM  
For all you people that say that hygiene cant come from a food truck, I submit that this truck wouldn't have lasted if it wasn't for the diligence of one Mr. Hank Rutherford Hill:

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2013-07-31 07:10:42 AM  
I had no idea that the guy working a food truck was a customarily tipped employee.
 
2013-07-31 07:11:07 AM  

assjuice: Lauraness: I tip the food truck Cinnamon Snail when I order from them because the food is absolutly AMAZING. (And I'm not a vegan). Also the halal cart on Brighton 5th cuz he gives me free food sometimes and has some of the best chicken rice

I have honestly never been AMAZED by food. I don't really think it is possible.


Food and sex are the main pleasure activities for all life forms capable of experiencing pleasure.  Maybe you have bum taste buds or don't know anyone that can cook?  Did your mom microwave noodles and catsup as a special dinner growing up?
 
2013-07-31 07:12:12 AM  

HotWingAgenda: I can't imagine spending $170 on food from a truck. Then again, I've never heard of a food truck with a delivery boy. The entire restaurant has f*cking wheels, right?


Yeah, I don't think this food truck is a roach coach like everyone seems to think.
 
2013-07-31 07:15:16 AM  
After every story like this I ask myself if it's possible to feel any more entitled.
 
2013-07-31 07:18:05 AM  

itsaidwhat: Everybody knows that you don't effect tip-stiffing revenge with a Tweet. That's a revenge best served cold on their next order.

/"Patience - young grasshopper, patience..."


You have learned the first lesson grasshopper.

Now select which end of the roast has the most gristle and carve accordingly...
 
2013-07-31 07:19:13 AM  

lewismarktwo: Maybe you have bum taste buds


Only after a really powerful curry.

chaddsfarkprefect: After every story like this I ask myself if it's possible to feel any more entitled.


I ask myself if it would be possible to compete, on a more level playing field, with China by immediately placing all self-described 'millenials' in labour camps.
 
2013-07-31 07:21:45 AM  

Kanemano: The last thing you want is every employee making policy,and talking about your business without authorization.


This!  When are these stupid kids going to realize that deriding your employer, or your employer's customers by name in a public forum is not acceptable?  Seriously.  This food truck company relies on those like Glass, Lewis, etc. for their business.  They don't need smart-alec hot shots with a twitter finger losing business.

And tipping a food truck is retarded. Not to mention an order of $170 should have the service/delivery fee built in.
 
2013-07-31 07:22:45 AM  

serial_crusher: Oh, they only gave you the agreed upon amount and nothing else? Man, it must suck to only get $170 for some sandwiches.


That's what the owner is getting. The poor schlub horking out the sammiches is probably getting 8 bucks an hour
 
2013-07-31 07:24:23 AM  

keylock71: I tip anyone that handles food... Not just because I spent much of my young adulthood working in restaurants (from short order diners to high-end restaurants) and know what a ball-busting, shiat pay job it is,


"Twenty year olds at their jobs are always like, 'This job sucks.' Yes, that's why we gave it to  you! Because you're twenty, which is a mathematical guarantee that you have no skills and nothing to offer anybody in the world. If you're 20 years old, I guarantee you have never done anything for anybody ever, never. Yes you went on a school trip to Guatemala and they told you that you helped but you totally did not help."
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-07-31 07:30:58 AM  
It's not unusual to tip at least 10% at a food truck...
 
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2013-07-31 07:32:22 AM  
This is one of those rare occurrences where everyone involved is an asshole but me.
 
2013-07-31 07:33:21 AM  

Deadite: I'll tip food trucks, though around here that usually means they're selling frybread.

Which if you've never seen it or eaten it looks like this if you order whats known as a Navajo Taco around here.
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They're also farking delicious with either powder sugar or honey or hell both. The people selling these by the roadside usually need the extra money and for these wonderful bastards I'll gladly tip if it means they can still operate and sell me more. I'll tip even more if they got homemade hotsauce that burns my nostrils walking up to the truck.

With that said hipster/artisan food trucks that sell grilled cheese sandwiches for $7 will be lucky if I buy something from them. Which is weird since I'll go to cleaner looking restaurants over skeezy ones any day, but with food trucks I'll buy something from the ones that look like they're still running from the Zeta's over ones that aim for these guys.
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Nice. Those Navajo tacos may be in my future if I get that job I applied for in New Mexico.

Back to TFA. I want to support the tweeting worker in the story because I think the way food service workers are paid is a scandal. They exist on tips. However, no matter what business you're in, you have to be nice to big clients and you don't want employees tweeting about the clients. Still, shareholder advisory people who place $170 orders and don't tip should be first up against the wall when the revolution comes.
 
2013-07-31 07:36:19 AM  
The funny part is contemplating how many meetings entire cadres of managers, PR consultants, social media "experts" and attorneys probably endured because of one idiot who inadvertently used a social media platform in the best and worst way possible.
 
2013-07-31 07:38:51 AM  

Southern100: Lady Indica:You can't and don't preorder food for 70 people at McDonalds. Or Wendy's. Or Jack in the Box. Oh sure perhaps a wee place in Peoria will...but in San Francisco? AHAHAHA. No. fark no. Especially NOT during the lunch rush.
They didn't order the food and pick it up, it was delivered. [Wrong]
If you pre-order food, and have it delivered...you should tip. Don't be a farking jackass. If you place a large order for food for an entire office, you should also tip.

Sure you can. Tour buses stop in at McDonalds and other fast food restaurants all the time.

And you need to read the article, M'Lady.

"Anyway. The other rainy Monday morning, business was slow when a group of about a dozen customers sprinted up. This was at our second location, a stall the company opened in South Street Seaport to support the area while Hurricane Sandy repairs were happening. This group placed a huge order: three of this sandwich, four of another, three of the one that takes forever on the grill, two of the one that takes forever to assemble. Five or six milkshakes. The order came to just under $170."

A dozen customers. Individually. NO DELIVERY.


I'd only read the BoingBoing which implied it was a large order placed by a company (tweet kinda implies it too IMO). The article linked on BoingBoing (which I hadn't read) shows that was NOT the case.

It would've been nice to tip, given that such trucks were slammed with extra biz, etc. but there's ZERO obligation to do so on an individual order at a food truck. Guy was totally wrong. I still stand (sit, whatevs ;)) by my 'if you make a company order and they deliver you farking tip' but that wasn't the case here.

He was out of line saying something to them at the truck even. And much more so by tweeting it.

I also missed it was on the east coast, and not in SF. Seriously in SF $7 for a cheese sammich would be pretty good.

/heading into the City today
//someone else is treating her broke ass
 
2013-07-31 07:42:20 AM  

doonerpjenkins: It's not unusual to tip at least 10% at a food truck...


How common is having fun with anyone?
 
2013-07-31 07:42:28 AM  
Everybody behaved poorly here.
 
2013-07-31 07:46:12 AM  
Fark all three involved.
 
2013-07-31 07:46:49 AM  
I was fired from Apple for something I said here on Fark....
 
2013-07-31 07:47:52 AM  
Shout out to the good people of Glass, Lewis & Co. for placing a $170 order and not leaving a tip.

"Meet Glass, Lewis and Co., the company that got a food truck employee fired for offending them on Twitter"

So, essentially, utter c*nts?

Just complete, pompous, cheap c*nts?
 
2013-07-31 07:53:25 AM  

MythDragon: serial_crusher: Oh, they only gave you the agreed upon amount and nothing else? Man, it must suck to only get $170 for some sandwiches.

That's what the owner is getting. The poor schlub horking out the sammiches is probably getting 8 bucks an hour


See, this is why I don't like tipping.  Too many changing and nuanced rules for people to get butthurt about you violating.  You don't tip the "sandwich artist" at subway who only makes $7.25, but you do tip the "sandwich artist" in a truck who makes $8.
If he thinks the working conditions in the truck amount to more than 75 cents/hour, or if he thinks he's somehow entitled to a 10% revenue share, he should take that up with the truck owner, not the truck owner's customers.
 
2013-07-31 07:53:43 AM  

Lady Indica: I'd only read the BoingBoing


Helpful tips for reading BoingBoing:

1) Assume at least 50% of the facts asserted in any of their articles are wrong.
2) If they recommend a video as being hilarious, it won't be.
3) If they recommend a particular musical act, under no circumstances listen to it, because it will not be good. (Lookin' at you, Die Antwoord.)
4) If there's a link to a Cory Doctorow short story, don't read it. Cory is a terrible writer. He has a gift for taking a subject you'd think would be really boring, like intellectual property law, the finer points of venture capital, yard sales, or outré aspects of copyright policy, and by adding just a few sci-fi elements to it, turning it into something really amazingly boring.
 
2013-07-31 07:56:45 AM  
Hey, maybe they'll get me fired, too.

Lemme check.

"Hey boss.  This mans says he's real mad at you."

"Is it that guy from that corporate whorehouse data mining company that doesn't tip?"

"That's him, boss.

"Tell him to suck a wet fart out of my ass."

"OK, boss."

I ain't worried.
 
2013-07-31 07:58:30 AM  

Lady Indica: Southern100: Lady Indica:You can't and don't preorder food for 70 people at McDonalds. Or Wendy's. Or Jack in the Box. Oh sure perhaps a wee place in Peoria will...but in San Francisco? AHAHAHA. No. fark no. Especially NOT during the lunch rush.
They didn't order the food and pick it up, it was delivered. [Wrong]
If you pre-order food, and have it delivered...you should tip. Don't be a farking jackass. If you place a large order for food for an entire office, you should also tip.

Sure you can. Tour buses stop in at McDonalds and other fast food restaurants all the time.

And you need to read the article, M'Lady.

"Anyway. The other rainy Monday morning, business was slow when a group of about a dozen customers sprinted up. This was at our second location, a stall the company opened in South Street Seaport to support the area while Hurricane Sandy repairs were happening. This group placed a huge order: three of this sandwich, four of another, three of the one that takes forever on the grill, two of the one that takes forever to assemble. Five or six milkshakes. The order came to just under $170."

A dozen customers. Individually. NO DELIVERY.

I'd only read the BoingBoing which implied it was a large order placed by a company (tweet kinda implies it too IMO). The article linked on BoingBoing (which I hadn't read) shows that was NOT the case.

It would've been nice to tip, given that such trucks were slammed with extra biz, etc. but there's ZERO obligation to do so on an individual order at a food truck. Guy was totally wrong. I still stand (sit, whatevs ;)) by my 'if you make a company order and they deliver you farking tip' but that wasn't the case here.

He was out of line saying something to them at the truck even. And much more so by tweeting it.

I also missed it was on the east coast, and not in SF. Seriously in SF $7 for a cheese sammich would be pretty good.

/heading into the City today
//someone else is treating her broke ass


I will go beyond that. If you have 12 straight people not tip you, you should consider if you could change your attitude or do something different to make people more likely to tip you in the future.

running after them giving them shiat for not tipping you, and then blasting their employer on twitter, gives a lot of insight into why your customer service skills may have played a key part in your lack of tips in the first place.
 
2013-07-31 08:00:07 AM  

meanmutton: I had no idea that the guy working a food truck was a customarily tipped employee.


I think it had less to do with tipping for a typical persons order and more to do with a high-end financial company putting in a large order for alot of food which creates a higher level of expectation for the food truck.

When you look at the business model of any place that serves food the workflow, staffing and even physics are geared towards "one person - one order."  It's easy to think that accommodating a  large influx of orders at one time just means more money, but for the food truck worker it just means that they need to bust their tails to get it done, and at a pace and rate exponentially larger than a regular order for one person.

This is the same reason why when you go to some restaurants and your group is larger than a certain number of people the tip is calculated into the bill.  A large group and their order is more work than what is typically asked for by the employee and as a result they should receive a higher level of compensation for it.

Shaming a financial company is like shooting fish in a barrel.  But if was a coward move to complain to the owner.  They should have made a point to place another order and talk to the employee and place an adequate tip and thank the worker for his efforts.  The owner of the food truck would have gotten more business, the employee would likely had a little more empathy for a group of people he's probably pretty at odds with and the financial company could turn it into a positive PR move.

Instead we now have someone collecting unemployment, bad press for a food truck boss who won't back up their staff and a financial company who has a reputation of being a bunch of vindictive cheap bastards.
 
2013-07-31 08:01:19 AM  
I was going to guess Law firm, but financial firm is a good close second.
 
2013-07-31 08:02:09 AM  

Skarekrough: a high-end financial company


Actually, they're a niche data mine that publishes "findings" that are probably mostly purchased as marketing fodder.
 
2013-07-31 08:02:45 AM  

E5bie: furterfan: E5bie: 1. Tip shaming by name is NEVER okay. If you need the reasons why spelled out, you probably shouldn't be in food service.

If you need the reasons spelled out to you, you deserve to be in food service, doing a job where you get minimum wage and have to rely on people giving you charity for doing your job

If you only want inferior persons preparing and serving your food, you deserve what you're unwittingly eating.


Personally, I would prefer it if anyone preparing my food had a minimum of a bachelors degree in a biology related subject. but, realistically, food service usually pays peanuts and attracts monkeys
 
2013-07-31 08:03:50 AM  

furterfan: food service usually pays peanuts and attracts monkeys


Like liberal arts majors?

*shudder*
 
2013-07-31 08:04:54 AM  

furterfan: food service usually pays peanuts and attracts monkeys


You think that's bad, you should see truck driving.

My dad drove a truck.

He also taught my sister calculus in one day.

You know, monkeys.
 
2013-07-31 08:06:17 AM  
Lady Indica:
I'd only read the BoingBoing which implied it was a large order placed by a company (tweet kinda implies it too IMO). The article linked on BoingBoing (which I hadn't read) shows that was NOT the case.

It would've been nice to tip, given that such trucks were slammed with extra biz, etc. but there's ZERO obligation to do so on an individual order at a food truck. Guy was totally wrong. I still stand (sit, whatevs ;)) by my 'if you make a company order and they deliver you farking tip' but that wasn't the case here.

He was out of line saying something to them at the truck even. And much more so by tweeting it.

I also missed it was on the east coast, and not in SF. Seriously in SF $7 for a cheese sammich would be pretty good.


Uh-oh. We just got someone, on the Internet, who was able to deal reasonably with being given new information. I'm not sure I'm awake enough to process that yet. Seriously, A+ on that. So nice to see someone who's able to adapt to new information.

As far as tipping for delivery in general, or even service-related industries, absolutely. Pizza guys, furniture/appliance delivery, the installers for my 65" plasma, all tip-worthy. For those that have 'em, Pool chemical guys, lawn care guys, grocery delivery (aka Pea-pod), also tip worthy.
 
2013-07-31 08:06:52 AM  

RoyBatty: Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches



$7 for a sandwich is a decent price in NYC for lunch. Its really hard to get lunch for under $10 total in midtown unless you are just grabbing a slice. Hell, the $1 McDouble sells for $1.69 in Manhattan.
 
2013-07-31 08:08:25 AM  

Sigh...: You have lost my business, and any referrals I might ever give because of your actions.


hahahahahahaha

God I love impotent protests.
 
2013-07-31 08:10:06 AM  
No good guys here. Food truck guy was whiny for tweeting about it. Glass, Lewis and Co. employees were being big babies complaining about the tweet. Glass, Lewis and Co, boss complaining about the food truck guy and getting him fired was a dick move. What is wrong with America when we can't even order lunch without a lot of drama??
 
2013-07-31 08:11:00 AM  

Dear Jerk: Everybody behaved poorly here.


Well.  We never heard outrage from the guy behind them who patiently waited his turn to order, so there's that.
 
2013-07-31 08:14:09 AM  

oryx: What is wrong with America when we can't even order lunch without a lot of drama??


Wrong?  There's nothing wrong.  It's these damn monkeys who don't realize that I am a somebody and forgetting their place.  Fix that and it's a new day in America, again.
 
2013-07-31 08:15:18 AM  
I love to jump on the necks of a greedy corporation as much as the next guy, but I think the Food Truck guy is a just an emo biatch.  If a large group goes to KFC and orders a ton of separate or one single order, no tip is expected.

If a KFC guy delivers said order, then a tip is in store.  No food was delivered or catered here. Its like a fast food counter.  I don't tip the popcorn guy at the theater.
 
2013-07-31 08:20:44 AM  

oryx: Glass, Lewis and Co, boss complaining about the food truck guy and getting him fired was a dick move.


An employee who will publicly call out a customer is a crappy employee who needs to be fired.  They did the owner a favor.  Probably deserve a discount on their next order for helping get rid of that moron.
 
2013-07-31 08:21:59 AM  

ladyfortuna


(although have you SEEN the price of imported cheese??)


Have you SEEN the menu that RoyBatty posted way upthread??

The cheeses are not imported, unless Vermont, Wisconsin, and New York State are foreign countries.
 
2013-07-31 08:24:02 AM  

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.


I'm in. This menu reeks of smug hipster foodie.  And any other adjectives I can't think of now.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-31 08:24:58 AM  
$2 for bacon?

How much f*cking bacon are they putting on it?
 
2013-07-31 08:27:22 AM  
Everyone involved in TFA sounds like a douchbag.
 
2013-07-31 08:29:49 AM  

Green Scorpio: RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.

I'm in. This menu reeks of smug hipster foodie.  And any other adjectives I can't think of now.

[i.imgur.com image 792x641]


Can we add the guy who made their website with cute little images instead of actual text to the list?  I guess he's doing blind people a favor by making it harder for them to find his overpriced crap.
 
2013-07-31 08:30:24 AM  
What a bunch of dicks.
 
2013-07-31 08:32:11 AM  

serial_crusher: MythDragon: serial_crusher: Oh, they only gave you the agreed upon amount and nothing else? Man, it must suck to only get $170 for some sandwiches.

That's what the owner is getting. The poor schlub horking out the sammiches is probably getting 8 bucks an hour

See, this is why I don't like tipping.  Too many changing and nuanced rules for people to get butthurt about you violating.  You don't tip the "sandwich artist" at subway who only makes $7.25, but you do tip the "sandwich artist" in a truck who makes $8.
If he thinks the working conditions in the truck amount to more than 75 cents/hour, or if he thinks he's somehow entitled to a 10% revenue share, he should take that up with the truck owner, not the truck owner's customers.


Can't say I disagree with you. Generaly, if I am not in a resturant where I am sitting at a table and using up floorspace and/or it involves ordering at a counter and paying beforehand , I'm not tipping.
 
2013-07-31 08:32:17 AM  

Southern100: puffy999: I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.

Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.


The more people work in retail and service jobs, the more you'll hear about how tips are expected by [insert service job here]. Makes sense in a 'looking out for your own best interests' kind of way.
 
2013-07-31 08:33:52 AM  

kwame: Sigh...: You have lost my business, and any referrals I might ever give because of your actions.

hahahahahahaha

God I love impotent protests.


Why?
 
2013-07-31 08:35:44 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: RoyBatty: The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches

You really don't understand why people would pay $7 for good cheese grilled on fresh-baked bread? I mean, if you like kraft singles on wonderbread, more power to you, but if you want nicer food, you're gonna pay for it, and $7 isn't outrageous, unless you're making minimum wage.


$7 is outrageous for a grilled cheese sandwich no matter how much you are making.
 
2013-07-31 08:35:56 AM  

The Muthaship: $2 for bacon?

How much f*cking bacon are they putting on it?


Bacon is stupid expensive anymore.  And getting it in packages that allow for quick food service use is f*cking expensive.  I think the hogs have agents, now.
 
2013-07-31 08:36:24 AM  
These

Green Scorpio: RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.

I'm in. This menu reeks of smug hipster foodie.  And any other adjectives I can't think of now.

[i.imgur.com image 792x641]


This!  I would never eat any sandwich that costs this much.  I'm so glad that I live here in Waco, TX where we have significantly limited dining options.  I would never want to live in a place like New Dork City with all of their crazy food.  My cousin went there and he said the Olive Garden in Times Square charged almost twice what they do here in Waco.  What is wrong with those people?
 
2013-07-31 08:36:28 AM  

angrycrank: RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.

You sound poor.


And you just sound like an asshole. Work on your trolling.
 
2013-07-31 08:38:14 AM  

jshine: Southern100: puffy999: I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.

Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.

The more people work in retail and service jobs, the more you'll hear about how tips are expected by [insert service job here]. Makes sense in a 'looking out for your own best interests' kind of way.


Welcome to the new America. Thanks, Reagan. The middle class were a PITA anyway - always expecting things of their betters. We're well off without them.
 
2013-07-31 08:42:45 AM  
Lessee.

Food prices have to cover -

Item replacement costs, spices, oils, cookware, appliances, rent, electricity, gas, water, sewage, taxes, labor, overhead and advertising, labor, peripheral service items like containers, cups and take out trays and bags, something for the boss so he doesn't put a match to the place...

A food truck, not so much, yeah, but.. Item replacement costs, gasoline, graphics on the truck, gasoline, licensing, labor, peripherals...  You're not paying for the cost of the bacon.
 
2013-07-31 08:42:54 AM  
We're supposed to tip food truck crews?
 
2013-07-31 08:45:31 AM  

bunner: The Muthaship: $2 for bacon?

How much f*cking bacon are they putting on it?

Bacon is stupid expensive anymore.  And getting it in packages that allow for quick food service use is f*cking expensive.  I think the hogs have agents, now.



They fry up several pounds in the morning, and put it in a warming-pan on the back of the griddle.
 
2013-07-31 08:45:48 AM  

I sound fat: I am a tip promoter, but why would I tip a food truck?


perhaps it's because it's NYC and it costs to breathe in NYC?
perhaps the boss is an asshole and doesn't pay?
perhaps they really do bust their ass for that $25 iTunes card?

When you clog up the services of an entire work crew with no advance notice, you might like to at least think about it.  They're making excuses to their "regular-Joes" as to why (you or I ) have to burn our lunch time waiting in line.

Could have at LEAST given them eternal consciousness on their deathbed . . .
 
2013-07-31 08:47:21 AM  

give me doughnuts: They fry up several pounds in the morning, and put it in a warming-pan on the back of the griddle.


As a rule, yeah.  A lot of restaurants with Alto Shaams or convection ovens buy it on paper slipsheets and you bake it up 60 slices at a go.
 
2013-07-31 08:47:25 AM  

bunner: Lessee.

Food prices have to cover -

Item replacement costs, spices, oils, cookware, appliances, rent, electricity, gas, water, sewage, taxes, labor, overhead and advertising, labor, peripheral service items like containers, cups and take out trays and bags, something for the boss so he doesn't put a match to the place...

A food truck, not so much, yeah, but.. Item replacement costs, gasoline, graphics on the truck, gasoline, licensing, labor, peripherals...  You're not paying for the cost of the bacon.


But how can things in New Dork City be so expensive?  It's almost like the things cost more there because the input costs are higher - especially the high cost of labor which is generally the largest cost for a business.

Everything there is that way!  Why can't you get a 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan for $500 a month like here in Waco?!  I just don't get it!!!!  They must all be hipster people!
 
2013-07-31 08:48:41 AM  

jshine: Why?


There are places I won't patronize because I didn't like the service.  That much I can agree with. It's the people who post on social media or make a point of telling their friends, as if their refusal to visit a business will put those people on notice.  It's so silly that I enjoy it.
 
2013-07-31 08:49:22 AM  
 
2013-07-31 08:49:23 AM  

RoyBatty: Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.


What's wrong with a $7 grilled cheese? I assume they're using something like smoked guda on artisanal bread, not american processed "cheese" on white. There's a small restaurant chain (4 locations I believe) here in Cleveland that specializes in high end grilled cheese sandwiches, all of them are over $7, even the plain cheese, and they're worth it.
 
2013-07-31 08:52:38 AM  
They make it and hand it to you over a counter. Just like a fast food place. No tip necessary as you were not "waited" on.
 
2013-07-31 08:53:05 AM  

Rapmaster2000: But how can things in New Dork City be so expensive?  It's almost like the things cost more there because the input costs are higher - especially the high cost of labor which is generally the largest cost for a business.

Everything there is that way!  Why can't you get a 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan for $500 a month like here in Waco?!  I just don't get it!!!!  They must all be hipster people!


It's called price fixing and people with more money than sense being all f*cked about about their zip code.  Moves a lot of money around.
 
2013-07-31 08:56:16 AM  

bunner: Rapmaster2000: But how can things in New Dork City be so expensive?  It's almost like the things cost more there because the input costs are higher - especially the high cost of labor which is generally the largest cost for a business.

Everything there is that way!  Why can't you get a 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan for $500 a month like here in Waco?!  I just don't get it!!!!  They must all be hipster people!

It's called price fixing and people with more money than sense being all f*cked about about their zip code.  Moves a lot of money around.


All I'm saying is that businesses should sell their products at a price below what their customer base will pay for it.  That's just common business sense.  I have a GED in MBA.
 
2013-07-31 08:57:40 AM  

Rapmaster2000: bunner: Rapmaster2000: But how can things in New Dork City be so expensive?  It's almost like the things cost more there because the input costs are higher - especially the high cost of labor which is generally the largest cost for a business.

Everything there is that way!  Why can't you get a 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan for $500 a month like here in Waco?!  I just don't get it!!!!  They must all be hipster people!

It's called price fixing and people with more money than sense being all f*cked about about their zip code.  Moves a lot of money around.

All I'm saying is that businesses should sell their products at a price below what their customer base will pay for it.  That's just common business sense.  I have a GED in MBA.


I think there's an ointment for that.   :  )
 
2013-07-31 08:59:33 AM  

thamike: I have absolutely no sympathy for overpriced food truck tourist behemoths clogging up the city and nudging out the Salvadoran couple that makes the best pupusas in town


You know how I knew you're near DC before clicking on your profile?

/Pupuserías FTW
 
2013-07-31 09:03:29 AM  

EngineerAU: You're suppose to tip food truck workers? Can I have a list of who should be tipped in America or maybe it'd be easier to come up with a list of people who don't get tips. Does this mean the owner of the food truck pays their workers $2.13/hr?


I tip almost all service industry people, mainly because I have done those jobs and they suck ass.

I don't get the reason for why they had to fire him, sure he made a mistake but unless this is an ongoing thing then he didn't need to be fired. If anything it sounds like they deserve to be shamed since it sounds like they had lunch catered and didn't tip shiat.
 
2013-07-31 09:06:43 AM  
All hail the new service economy!

The serfs can whittle little tchotchkes from driftwood and sell them in market stalls like that adorably rustic women we met while touring Peru.  Or simply mop floors or make larded, salty tidbits for the other serfs and wear snappy hats while they push them through a window.

I mean, not around HERE of course, my God man, we have standards.  And biscotti.  Of course you wouldn't know what biscotti is, would you?

Now fetch me my 34 sandwiches, laddie and put your ass into it.  I have things to do with very important people who can read.
 
2013-07-31 09:06:59 AM  

E5bie: 1. Tip shaming by name is NEVER okay. If you need the reasons why spelled out, you probably shouldn't be in food service.


Definitely disagree.

Was working a shiat job at a diner for a while, and after a really hard day had a group of 3 guys come in, somehow order like $100 in food and beer (kinda hard at a place with $6 lunch platters) and they ran my ass off.  When I grabbed their payment book off of the table they told me to keep the change.

Literally.  Change.  Like $1.70.

Went back, left a stack of coins on the side of the table and told them "you need this more than I do" and walked off.  After that day, I didn't much care if I got fired because the job was shiat and it's easy enough to replace a serving job (or was at that time).

One of the guys came and found me and explained that his "friend" had taken everyone's cash (with included tip) and told them they were all square - and used the tip money his friends left to cover most of his portion of the bill.  The guy apologized profusely for his friend and gave me a $20.

And now those guys know that their friend is a thieving, untrustable dickbag.  I think I did them a favor.

/csb
 
2013-07-31 09:07:31 AM  

Not_Todd: If I own a business, and an employee shames a big customer like that, you're damn right I'd fire them.


This.
 
2013-07-31 09:08:16 AM  

I sound fat: I am a tip promoter, but why would I tip a food truck?


if the jar says something awesome, they get tipped.

yesterday's was "Donations for ninja lessons"  I can toss a buck or two in for amusement.
 
2013-07-31 09:09:17 AM  

bunner: All hail the new service economy!


Building things makes the trees sad.
 
2013-07-31 09:11:01 AM  

The Muthaship: bunner: All hail the new service economy!

Building things makes the trees sad.


And metals!  Think of the precious ores!
 
2013-07-31 09:13:24 AM  

bunner: The Muthaship: bunner: All hail the new service economy!

Building things makes the trees sad.

And metals!  Think of the precious ores!


And the Spotted Whooping Dung Owl.
 
2013-07-31 09:15:29 AM  

doonerpjenkins: It's not unusual to tip at least 10% at a food truck...


I should tip 10% to someone who hands me a sandwich through a truck opening?  Please educate me: how much should I tip a vending machine that does the same thing?
 
2013-07-31 09:15:51 AM  
I once had a server at a restaurant on an island I used to live and work on during the summer who was flawless.

F l a w l e s s .

Some Ukrainian kid.

I tipped him 10.00 for a 6.00 meal.  Anybody who's good at something that's useful should eat well, too.
 
2013-07-31 09:16:05 AM  

Southern100: Lady Indica:You can't and don't preorder food for 70 people at McDonalds. Or Wendy's. Or Jack in the Box. Oh sure perhaps a wee place in Peoria will...but in San Francisco? AHAHAHA. No. fark no. Especially NOT during the lunch rush.
They didn't order the food and pick it up, it was delivered. [Wrong]
If you pre-order food, and have it delivered...you should tip. Don't be a farking jackass. If you place a large order for food for an entire office, you should also tip.

Sure you can. Tour buses stop in at McDonalds and other fast food restaurants all the time.

And you need to read the article, M'Lady.

"Anyway. The other rainy Monday morning, business was slow when a group of about a dozen customers sprinted up. This was at our second location, a stall the company opened in South Street Seaport to support the area while Hurricane Sandy repairs were happening. This group placed a huge order: three of this sandwich, four of another, three of the one that takes forever on the grill, two of the one that takes forever to assemble. Five or six milkshakes. The order came to just under $170."

A dozen customers. Individually. NO DELIVERY.


Sounds like they orders for the entire office so yeah tip the farker working in a tin box sweating to make your farking food.
 
2013-07-31 09:17:01 AM  

The Muthaship: And the Spotted Whooping Dung Owl.


Dude, she might not be a looker but she's great in the sack and she can cook.   :  /
 
2013-07-31 09:17:36 AM  
For those who didn't read the article or the additional linked article:
1. The guy who got fired wrote the linked article. He's a douche, and basically admits that.
2. It wasn't 20 sammiches, it was 12 and 5-6 shakes.
3. 12 people were actually there. This was not a phone order, 12 employees of Glass Lewis were ordering, separately. The fact that they paid with one credit card is irrevelant, in fact it was helpful to the truck as it saved credit card charges and was far quicker.
4. They picked up their orders individually. When they did, the fired guy harrased them and asked if they had planned not to tip.

So, to recap: the fired guy is an idiot and a douche. The 12 people were just 12 people standing at a food truck. Douche is shaming ordinary people, not some mega-corporation (BTW, they do financial research). The owner was correct in firing him.
 
2013-07-31 09:21:26 AM  

furterfan: E5bie: furterfan: E5bie: 1. Tip shaming by name is NEVER okay. If you need the reasons why spelled out, you probably shouldn't be in food service.

If you need the reasons spelled out to you, you deserve to be in food service, doing a job where you get minimum wage and have to rely on people giving you charity for doing your job

If you only want inferior persons preparing and serving your food, you deserve what you're unwittingly eating.

Personally, I would prefer it if anyone preparing my food had a minimum of a bachelors degree in a biology related subject. but, realistically, food service usually pays peanuts and attracts monkeys


People who earn money are monkeys? Nice.
...Sounds like you haven't needed to, for whatever reason. Inter-generational charity perhaps?
 
2013-07-31 09:25:51 AM  

bunner: I once had a server at a restaurant on an island I used to live and work on during the summer who was flawless.

F l a w l e s s .

Some Ukrainian kid.


.........and then the thread descended into some sort of sexual confession thing
 
2013-07-31 09:26:33 AM  

steamingpile: it sounds like they had lunch catered and didn't tip shiat.


They did not have lunch catered.
The other rainy Monday morning, business was slow when a group of about a dozen customers sprinted up. This was at our second location, a stall the company opened in South Street Seaport to support the area while Hurricane Sandy repairs were happening. This group placed a huge order: three of this sandwich, four of another, three of the one that takes forever on the grill, two of the one that takes forever to assemble. Five or six milkshakes. The order came to just under $170.

This guy tweeted at an entire company over the actions of a few of their employees picking up sandwiches for coworkers.   This was not a corporate action by Glass Lewis and there was no catering involved.
 
2013-07-31 09:27:05 AM  

Spanky McStupid: doonerpjenkins: It's not unusual to tip at least 10% at a food truck...

I should tip 10% to someone who hands me a sandwich through a truck opening?  Please educate me: how much should I tip a vending machine that does the same thing?


You don't tip inanimate objects dummy.

People that don't tip do not realize how much easier your life is when you tip, I slipped our hotel doorman $20 when he helped get us a cab in NY. After that he had a car waiting for us everytime, which was great when it was raining so hard.
 
2013-07-31 09:29:09 AM  

furterfan: and then the thread descended into some sort of sexual confession thing


Preceded by the most god awful amateur comedy you ever saw.   :  )
 
2013-07-31 09:30:07 AM  

notto: steamingpile: it sounds like they had lunch catered and didn't tip shiat.

They did not have lunch catered.
The other rainy Monday morning, business was slow when a group of about a dozen customers sprinted up. This was at our second location, a stall the company opened in South Street Seaport to support the area while Hurricane Sandy repairs were happening. This group placed a huge order: three of this sandwich, four of another, three of the one that takes forever on the grill, two of the one that takes forever to assemble. Five or six milkshakes. The order came to just under $170.

This guy tweeted at an entire company over the actions of a few of their employees picking up sandwiches for coworkers.   This was not a corporate action by Glass Lewis and there was no catering involved.


Yes I see that and corrected it like two posts later, doesn't matter still sounds like they ordered for the whole office and should have tipped.

If you order food from any place where they prepare it as you order it and you don't tip then you are the asshole. These people hustle to get your food ready for you so show a little gratitude.
 
2013-07-31 09:31:33 AM  
Tipping is a stupid thing and I hate it. You're billing me twice for one thing.

I hate it even more that every place you go has a tip jar. The Arby's in the food court has a tip jar. It's farking Arby's. And it's a slow Arby's at that. I'm not tipping you. Every time I decide to give you another chance you take 10 minutes to assemble a premade roast beef sandwich. And it tastes like ass. And you mumble the whole time and half the time you try to give it to me on a lunch tray when I asked for take out which is prominently printed on the receipt you just spend three minutes gawking at with your jaw at full slack.

Here's a tip, lose the meth habit and go get a real job where your paycheck doesn't suck donkey balls.
 
2013-07-31 09:32:07 AM  
Glass, Lewis and Co. are leaders in the Analrapist field, combining analysis and therapist.
 
2013-07-31 09:32:55 AM  
The stupid is strong in this thread.
 
2013-07-31 09:34:01 AM  
steamingpile:

People that don't tip do not realize how much easier your life is when you tip, I slipped our hotel doorman $20 when he helped get us a cab in NY. After that he had a car waiting for us everytime, which was great when it was raining so hard.

The cabs weren't waiting there because you gave the doorman twenty bucks.
 
2013-07-31 09:35:18 AM  

skozlaw: Tipping is a stupid thing and I hate it. You're billing me twice for one thing.

I hate it even more that every place you go has a tip jar. The Arby's in the food court has a tip jar. It's farking Arby's. And it's a slow Arby's at that. I'm not tipping you. Every time I decide to give you another chance you take 10 minutes to assemble a premade roast beef sandwich. And it tastes like ass. And you mumble the whole time and half the time you try to give it to me on a lunch tray when I asked for take out which is prominently printed on the receipt you just spend three minutes gawking at with your jaw at full slack.

Here's a tip, lose the meth habit and go get a real job where your paycheck doesn't suck donkey balls.


0/10  Seriously, did you get that from a Rush Limbaugh pamphlet?
 
2013-07-31 09:36:42 AM  

bunner: give me doughnuts: They fry up several pounds in the morning, and put it in a warming-pan on the back of the griddle.

As a rule, yeah.  A lot of restaurants with Alto Shaams or convection ovens buy it on paper slipsheets and you bake it up 60 slices at a go.


Great. Now I can't think of anything but chewing my way through a half-dozen strips of thick-cut maple-cured bacon hot out of the oven.
It's gonna be a long time till lunch.

And then there is this stuff:

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Thick-cut, oven baked, then you add the brown sugar slaze with the chopped pecans (or almonds), and bake it a little more.
My family refers to it as "Bacon Crack."
 
2013-07-31 09:37:37 AM  

RickTheVote: The stupid is strong in this thread.


I'm going to start counting the people who wander into random threads, pronounce the participants as stupid, say nothing, add nothing and try to imply great gravitas to the fart they just laid.  thanks for kicking that off.  Seriously.  Well done.
 
2013-07-31 09:38:03 AM  
FTA: can you imagine working at the kind of company that would publicly accept a food truck's apology

Why shouldn't the company publicly accept the apology?  It wasn't the company buying the food, but it was the company that was publicly blamed when some employees didn't tip for pick-up/take-out.
 
2013-07-31 09:38:57 AM  

Freudian_slipknot: E5bie: 1. Tip shaming by name is NEVER okay. If you need the reasons why spelled out, you probably shouldn't be in food service.

Definitely disagree.

Was working a shiat job at a diner for a while, and after a really hard day had a group of 3 guys come in, somehow order like $100 in food and beer (kinda hard at a place with $6 lunch platters) and they ran my ass off.  When I grabbed their payment book off of the table they told me to keep the change.

Literally.  Change.  Like $1.70.

Went back, left a stack of coins on the side of the table and told them "you need this more than I do" and walked off.  After that day, I didn't much care if I got fired because the job was shiat and it's easy enough to replace a serving job (or was at that time).

One of the guys came and found me and explained that his "friend" had taken everyone's cash (with included tip) and told them they were all square - and used the tip money his friends left to cover most of his portion of the bill.  The guy apologized profusely for his friend and gave me a $20.

And now those guys know that their friend is a thieving, untrustable dickbag.  I think I did them a favor.

/csb


Ouch. CSB. Usually I think of shaming as going public with private behavior, although I guess this is another way. However, you were (justifiably) petulant to the people involved in the transaction, not the whole restaurant, the whole internet, or random passersby. That's what I meant was not cool.
 
2013-07-31 09:42:14 AM  

give me doughnuts: bunner: give me doughnuts: They fry up several pounds in the morning, and put it in a warming-pan on the back of the griddle.

As a rule, yeah.  A lot of restaurants with Alto Shaams or convection ovens buy it on paper slipsheets and you bake it up 60 slices at a go.

Great. Now I can't think of anything but chewing my way through a half-dozen strips of thick-cut maple-cured bacon hot out of the oven.
It's gonna be a long time till lunch.

And then there is this stuff:

[media.tumblr.com image 500x281]
Thick-cut, oven baked, then you add the brown sugar slaze with the chopped pecans (or almonds), and bake it a little more.
My family refers to it as "Bacon Crack."


Dude.  Ribs with baked beans with applewood smoked bacon baked crispy, brown sugar, Mrs. Butterworth's and Jack Daniel's and white pepper.
 
2013-07-31 09:42:44 AM  
I tip for 'bring'

If you bring food to my table, and come back and check up on me you get a tip.

If you bring food to my house quickly, while it's still hot, you get a tip.

If you bring my bags upstairs to my room, you get a tip.

If you bring me home in your taxi, you get a tip.

If you bring my car around to the front, you get a tip.

If I walk up to your counter and exchange money for goods and I then walk away with the goods, you get the amount of money your menu states I owe you.
 
2013-07-31 09:44:27 AM  
I read one article that said this was a situation where a group of people went down to the truck and individually ordered, so it wasn't necessarily as if an order was called in and delivered to the company.

Still, I don't tip food trucks.  It's nice of you to make my order and I'm actually *gasp* paying you for that.  But  I'm doing all the delivery legwork, so no.

Also this tip-shaming thing has got to stop.  Yes, a customer farked you (in your view).  It's life, move on.
 
2013-07-31 09:45:26 AM  

rkane1: I tip for 'bring'

If you bring food to my table, and come back and check up on me you get a tip.

If you bring food to my house quickly, while it's still hot, you get a tip.

If you bring my bags upstairs to my room, you get a tip.

If you bring me home in your taxi, you get a tip.

If you bring my car around to the front, you get a tip.

If I walk up to your counter and exchange money for goods and I then walk away with the goods, you get the amount of money your menu states I owe you.


Well lah di dah.
 
2013-07-31 09:47:50 AM  

CheatCommando: Publicly, with a public apology to the client, so that other customers can rake your business over the coals and perhaps go elsewhere?


How does part B follow from part A?
 
2013-07-31 10:17:30 AM  

Skarekrough: meanmutton: I had no idea that the guy working a food truck was a customarily tipped employee.

I think it had less to do with tipping for a typical persons order and more to do with a high-end financial company putting in a large order for alot of food which creates a higher level of expectation for the food truck.

When you look at the business model of any place that serves food the workflow, staffing and even physics are geared towards "one person - one order."  It's easy to think that accommodating a  large influx of orders at one time just means more money, but for the food truck worker it just means that they need to bust their tails to get it done, and at a pace and rate exponentially larger than a regular order for one person.

This is the same reason why when you go to some restaurants and your group is larger than a certain number of people the tip is calculated into the bill.  A large group and their order is more work than what is typically asked for by the employee and as a result they should receive a higher level of compensation for it.


The reason they add in the tip for large groups is because large groups frequently skimp on the tip (it's amazing how people can't do basic math and split up a bill when they eat in a group) for individuals who are customarily tipped employees.
 
2013-07-31 10:19:44 AM  
What do food truck employees get paid? I assumed it was like fast food and they were paid a flat rate.

Of course I live in a rural area and have only ever seen a food truck once.
 
2013-07-31 10:27:18 AM  

meanmutton: The reason they add in the tip for large groups is because large groups frequently skimp on the tip (it's amazing how people can't do basic math and split up a bill when they eat in a group) for individuals who are customarily tipped employees.


Mandatory service charges aren't tips and the servers are not legally* entitled to the money you leave.

*varies by state
 
2013-07-31 10:28:10 AM  
It's getting to a point where everyone who handles food these days expects a tip. I was in a doughnut shop last weekend and they had a tip jar. A tip for handing me a damn pastry? Really?

If this keeps up the guy at 7-11 is going to expect a tip when he sells you a snickers bar.
 
2013-07-31 10:30:25 AM  
1. I don't think 7-8$ for a grilled cheese is so bad - there is other stuff on it
2. Some of those on the menu I would definitely order
3. I am NOT a hipster douchebag (50+ married guy, so by default not hip)
4. But I do live in LA, so take #'s 1-3 with a grain of salt (no extra charge for the salt)
 
2013-07-31 10:31:05 AM  

Deadite: I'll tip food trucks, though around here that usually means they're selling frybread.

Which if you've never seen it or eaten it looks like this if you order whats known as a Navajo Taco around here.
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They're also farking delicious with either powder sugar or honey or hell both. The people selling these by the roadside usually need the extra money and for these wonderful bastards I'll gladly tip if it means they can still operate and sell me more. I'll tip even more if they got homemade hotsauce that burns my nostrils walking up to the truck.

With that said hipster/artisan food trucks that sell grilled cheese sandwiches for $7 will be lucky if I buy something from them. Which is weird since I'll go to cleaner looking restaurants over skeezy ones any day, but with food trucks I'll buy something from the ones that look like they're still running from the Zeta's over ones that aim for these guys.
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2013-07-31 10:31:26 AM  
The whole thing started out with roach coaches that served mostly prefab sammiches and coffee going to industrial sites and feeding the people who actually make the stuff the company made, you know, the monkeys, something other than vendomat.

Somebody said "you know, this could be the jazz" and they hipsterized it and started setting them up with grills and pizza ovens and hot and old tables and hitting food fests, burnoffs and free summer concerts.  Good business model.

Then it sort of veered into either the bar food / mom food trucks or the thin air of the foodie hip trucks serving piquant delicacies slathered in artisanal mayo scraped from the pristine pissflaps or artisanal unicorns and served on free range gluten free bread baked on the dashboard of the truck in a glass oven made in Bogota by artisanal glass blowers.  Some of it tasted OK.

Then, it went full batsh*t trendy in Portland, like you would, and now cities are all trying to get their mobile foodie moose hitched to the hip.  Before that, it was largely owner operated, single truck things that had Elmer whomping up the good while Mavis served the smiles, hearty thank yous and did the register fandango.  Now it's full scale operations™ with grunts, fleets, overhead, and therefore, paid for poo cats slamming out the goods.  And yeah, you should slip them a buck or two if they serve you and the food is good.
 
2013-07-31 10:33:30 AM  

poot_rootbeer: CheatCommando: Publicly, with a public apology to the client, so that other customers can rake your business over the coals and perhaps go elsewhere?

How does part B follow from part A?


You really think the food truck guy's customer base is reacting to this firing positively? The reaction I've seen is mixed at best. The public nature of the firing and apology is very likely costing him business. A simpler way to handle this would have been to fire the employee (that pretty much had to happen) and move on with life. No public statements, no brouhaha, no nothing. If it cost you the douchebag firm as a customer because you refused to publicly grovel to them, so be it. It's still a smaller PR hit.

And please note, I am not at all justifying the public shaming by the employee here - as I said, once he did that, you pretty much have to fire his ass.
 
2013-07-31 10:35:16 AM  
I always assumed food truck guys own their own businesses, and since it's insulting to tip the owner of a business, I never tipped them.
 
2013-07-31 10:46:19 AM  
They should have tipped.  And I don't see the guy getting fired as a big deal.  If he was serving in a restaurant and loudly and sarcastically thanked a customer for not leaving a tip as they left, there would be consequences.  This is no different.
 
2013-07-31 10:52:51 AM  

Eps05: HotWingAgenda: I can't imagine spending $170 on food from a truck. Then again, I've never heard of a food truck with a delivery boy. The entire restaurant has f*cking wheels, right?

It's probably their fancy term for "minimum wage food industry worker". Once they start cleaning their truck at the end of the day they become "Sanitation technicians".

I hope this story goes viral and shame both GL&co and Milk Truck both get humuiliated publicly. Then again, since GL&co are in the business of screwing people's money over, they probably don't give a crap about it.


It's out now. If I were GL, I wouldn't order any more food from a food truck in the future, unless I did it under a pseudonym.
 
2013-07-31 10:53:47 AM  

give me doughnuts: Thick-cut, oven baked, then you add the brown sugar slaze with the chopped pecans (or almonds), and bake it a little more.
My family refers to it as "Bacon Crack."


Looks like a great way to disguise the taste of mediocre bacon.
 
2013-07-31 11:01:23 AM  
i'd say i want to contact the company to say how big of a-holes they were, but they seem like the kind of a-hole that would track you down and threaten you with a lawsuit or something
 
2013-07-31 11:02:16 AM  

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.


Sent them business and made it worse?  Made what worse?  Their miserable food truck existences?  But I'm with you, terminate, with extreme arrogance.
 
2013-07-31 11:14:23 AM  

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.


Agreed.
 
2013-07-31 11:19:46 AM  
Deadite: Which if you've never seen it or eaten it looks like this if you order whats known as a Navajo Taco around here.

Taco salad around these parts.

// submitted with a different headline

// never heard of tipping food trucks

// $7 grilled cheese? Only if it's smoked gouda on some nice sourdough. If it's your run of the mill white bread and cheddar though, you could make a dozen of those things for $7.
 
2013-07-31 11:23:44 AM  
My take in this situation:

If you ordered in advance and picked up the food yourself - No tip
If you went to the truck and ordered and person (large order) - small tip
If they delivered - nice tip


If you're going to shame them on twitter- Leave out the name of the company.. they'll see it anyway and be shamed.  You won't get fired.  But because you said the name of the company, now you're causing serious problems.
 
2013-07-31 11:24:13 AM  
If it's not illegal, it's ok.
Never forget that.
 
2013-07-31 11:25:00 AM  

Deadite: Which if you've never seen it or eaten it looks like this if you order whats known as a Navajo Taco around here.


I've had one.. and fry bread, and Sopas with honey. (AZ)

Not a fan of the taco because I don't like the beans, but if I knew it had all of those beans I would have ordered w/o
 
2013-07-31 11:40:46 AM  

angrycrank: RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.

You sound poor.


And you sound like my wealthy uncle who makes a big show of defining himself by his wealth, not his bitter, empty soul.  He makes sure EVERYONE knows he's rich, whether they want to know or not.  Nobody likes him.  You two should summer together in Florida some time, and make fun of the help over Pimm's Cups and crudites.
 
2013-07-31 11:49:31 AM  

E5bie: Glass-Lewis Co. didn't "get" the guy fired. His boss fired him. Period.


Didn't bother to read the article or poor reading comprehension?

"He told me that he'd gotten a call from the company, Glass, Lewis & Co. The company provides shareholder advisory services. Apparently, those employees were mortified that their lunch truck had tip-shamed them-the home office in San Francisco even got involved. "

Or just belligerently stupid?
 
2013-07-31 11:50:41 AM  

Musikslayer: For those who didn't read the article or the additional linked article:
1. The guy who got fired wrote the linked article. He's a douche, and basically admits that.
2. It wasn't 20 sammiches, it was 12 and 5-6 shakes.
3. 12 people were actually there. This was not a phone order, 12 employees of Glass Lewis were ordering, separately. The fact that they paid with one credit card is irrevelant, in fact it was helpful to the truck as it saved credit card charges and was far quicker.
4. They picked up their orders individually. When they did, the fired guy harrased them and asked if they had planned not to tip.

So, to recap: the fired guy is an idiot and a douche. The 12 people were just 12 people standing at a food truck. Douche is shaming ordinary people, not some mega-corporation (BTW, they do financial research). The owner was correct in firing him.



Yea, I'm going to have to agree here - 170.00 = about 12 sandwiches and 5 or 6 shakes according to the menu. 12 people lined up at the truck - paid with one credit card.

However i don't have an issue with tip shaming when it is deserved - as consumers we have the right to say just about whatever we want about goods and services - I think its only fair for companies to be open and honest about douche-bag customers - why not?

The kid was wrong - tips aren't necessary when individual customers pick up food at a window - there are instances where tipping probably is a good idea, i don't think this was one considering the facts.

The PR fallout from this tho...was equally as bad. Someone should have been smart enough to realize that firing some minimum wage kid who made a stupid tweet shaming them for not tipping  - could possibly blow up in their faces. (see the Streisand effect)

Should have learned from Amy's Baking Co - keep a low profile, keep your mouth shut - the whole thing will blow over in a day or two -
 
2013-07-31 11:56:44 AM  

NickelP: Sigh...: Glass, Lewis and Co. ....

You have lost my business, and any referrals I might ever give because of your actions.   First)  Cheap bastards, nickle and diming the little guy?   Second)  Crushing some poor dude who works on a food truck.

Food Truck worker dude...   Tips are always voluntary.  You were wrong to shame them.  People are schmucks, get used to it.   If you don't want bad tips, get out of the business entirely.

Food Truck Owner dude...   You need clear policies and expectations.

Sounds like he has one.  Food truck cooks are not permitted to badmouth customers on twitter or they will be fired.  Pretty reasonable too


Again, FTFA: "The company has a way of doing things and he thought I'd understood that. I had embarrassed him and the company and that was that."

The "he thought I'd understood that" implies that he DIDN'T have clear policies and expectations.

Is everyone in this thread just taking the day off from actually READING the articles?
 
2013-07-31 12:01:03 PM  
steamingpile:
I don't get the reason for why they had to fire him, sure he made a mistake but unless this is an ongoing thing then he didn't need to be fired. If anything it sounds like they deserve to be shamed since it sounds like they had lunch catered and didn't tip shiat.

Are you kidding?  If I had been his manager and saw him talk shiat IN the resturant to their faces I would have fired him.  Let alone publicly insulting a customer.  You don't argue with, insult, embarras, or otherwise agitate a customer unnecissarily.

Maybe a sharp word to a customer, then stopping immediately and apologizing.  Putting something in PRINT as though it were the opinion of the company, oh hell no, you're fired.
 
2013-07-31 12:02:32 PM  

Southern100: Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.


This.

I only tip if someone delivers the food to my table.  I would never tip a food truck, especially considering the prices they charge.  Food trucks are supposed to be cheap.  I once paid $4 for a cupcake, only because my kid was begging for one.  No one would I have ever tipped that guy.
 
2013-07-31 12:07:48 PM  

ciberido: NickelP: Sigh...: Glass, Lewis and Co. ....

You have lost my business, and any referrals I might ever give because of your actions.   First)  Cheap bastards, nickle and diming the little guy?   Second)  Crushing some poor dude who works on a food truck.

Food Truck worker dude...   Tips are always voluntary.  You were wrong to shame them.  People are schmucks, get used to it.   If you don't want bad tips, get out of the business entirely.

Food Truck Owner dude...   You need clear policies and expectations.

Sounds like he has one.  Food truck cooks are not permitted to badmouth customers on twitter or they will be fired.  Pretty reasonable too

Again, FTFA: "The company has a way of doing things and he thought I'd understood that. I had embarrassed him and the company and that was that."

The "he thought I'd understood that" implies that he DIDN'T have clear policies and expectations.

Is everyone in this thread just taking the day off from actually READING the articles?


Oh, bullshiat, the liberal-arts degree hipster chimp had an overdeveloped sense of self importance and it ran straight into reality. Today he learned he's not just replaceable, but easily replaceable.
 
2013-07-31 12:33:18 PM  
I don't make jack, and I bring the news to people on my company's website. I think I'll add a Paypal tip widget in the right rail on every page. I wonder how long it would take for my boss to notice...
 
2013-07-31 12:40:34 PM  

puffy999: I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.


In short?  Cooks are paid more than the general $2 something an hour.  And they are in the BOH because they don't like people.  Trust me.  You don't want a cook serving you your food =)

/10+ years in the industry.
//Got a regular 9-5 and got the fark out of Dodge.
 
2013-07-31 12:49:21 PM  

farkerofDOOM: n short?  Cooks are paid more than the general $2 something an hour.  And they are in the BOH because they don't like people.  Trust me.  You don't want a cook serving you your food =)


Most cooks, if you met them, you wouldn't want them preparing your food... and you'd probably no longer feel safe in the restaurant knowing they're in the other room.
 
2013-07-31 12:52:00 PM  

lewismarktwo: For those of you bemoaning the cost of some grilled cheese sammiches just consider that any fancy melted cheese sammich is called a 'grilled cheese' these days.  All manner of fixins including sauteed veggies and truffle slices... sometimes even meat.


Quiet Hipster. Grilled Cheese only requires two ingredients, cheese and bread (possibly three, if you want butter on top of the bread as it's grilled into the sandwich). Anything else is a different name for a sandwich and it is not worth $7 dollars anywhere.
 
2013-07-31 12:56:38 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: lewismarktwo: For those of you bemoaning the cost of some grilled cheese sammiches just consider that any fancy melted cheese sammich is called a 'grilled cheese' these days.  All manner of fixins including sauteed veggies and truffle slices... sometimes even meat.

Quiet Hipster. Grilled Cheese only requires two ingredients, cheese and bread (possibly three, if you want butter on top of the bread as it's grilled into the sandwich). Anything else is a different name for a sandwich and it is not worth $7 dollars anywhere.


The value of something is what the market bears.

If people will pay 7 bucks for a grilled cheese, then apparently it's worth 7 bucks.

Avg lunch in manhattan is about 12-15 dollars.


But I suppose I am just bragging, according to certain Midwest hipster farkers.
 
2013-07-31 01:04:32 PM  

MugzyBrown: farkerofDOOM: n short?  Cooks are paid more than the general $2 something an hour.  And they are in the BOH because they don't like people.  Trust me.  You don't want a cook serving you your food =)

Most cooks, if you met them, you wouldn't want them preparing your food... and you'd probably no longer feel safe in the restaurant knowing they're in the other room.


I was pretty lucky in the places I worked... I had no reservations about all but one of the cooks I had worked with.  One of them was just so f'd up on his drug du jour that he couldn't be trusted around food.  Not so much that it wouldn't be safe to eat - just that he'd give you what he thought would be delicious together ;-)  (Liver topped burger with blue cheese... *shudder*)

It's more the personality of a cook that keeps them to BOH.  Your server (usually) is gracious and will make sure that every single substitution you ask for is accommodated.  When said server goes into the kitchen to explain why the menu item of yellowfin black and white sesame tuna, served rare with a cucumber salad, warm sushi rice with crab and sesame avocado with wasabi cream is now tuna with lemon only, cooked well done, with jicama slaw, rice pilaf, and a teriyaki reduction.... yeah.... your server will tell you "No problem!", the cook is now calling your server a f'ing retahded cockhole and listing off a number of other colorful descriptions of what they think of the person who made the special order.

I don't miss being out of food service - I do miss the people I worked with though.  You find a more rough-n-tumble patchwork group... incredibly weird but fiercely loyal and devoted.
 
2013-07-31 01:05:05 PM  

EffervescingElephant: Musikslayer: For those who didn't read the article or the additional linked article:
1. The guy who got fired wrote the linked article. He's a douche, and basically admits that.
2. It wasn't 20 sammiches, it was 12 and 5-6 shakes.
3. 12 people were actually there. This was not a phone order, 12 employees of Glass Lewis were ordering, separately. The fact that they paid with one credit card is irrevelant, in fact it was helpful to the truck as it saved credit card charges and was far quicker.
4. They picked up their orders individually. When they did, the fired guy harrased them and asked if they had planned not to tip.

So, to recap: the fired guy is an idiot and a douche. The 12 people were just 12 people standing at a food truck. Douche is shaming ordinary people, not some mega-corporation (BTW, they do financial research). The owner was correct in firing him.


Yea, I'm going to have to agree here - 170.00 = about 12 sandwiches and 5 or 6 shakes according to the menu. 12 people lined up at the truck - paid with one credit card.

However i don't have an issue with tip shaming when it is deserved -


We don't actually know that it was deserved. The guy's article makes it quite clear that he has a chip on his shoulder and is a moron. It's entirely possible that the food was slow and came with an attitude. He admits in his article that he was shaking down individuals. Odds are heavy that bossman was taking out 11 co-workers and they didn't even think about the tip since they were being treated to lunch. If he is as much of a douche in real life as he was in his article (BTW the kid is an intern for some online hipster magazine), he's not going to get tips.

A few months back, a waitress gave us some snide comment about not leaving a tip. Unfortunately for her, she was looking at the table from an angle, and couldn't see the generous tip we left. We raised hell with the manager, said we would never come back, and we never did.(I was man enough to leave the tip there, which I considered taking back).  On another occasion, some airline bag guy came up and made a big stink about how he wasn't being tipped (I was with a large group) and was really rude about it. What he didn't see was my hand, which had tip money in it for him. He didn't get it of course.  The "Shaming" thing can really backfire on the waitstaff and especially the owner, as it's not always accurate. I usually pay the bill and then walk back to the table with the tip- so if someone doesn't see a tip and starts "shaming", they will not only lose the tip but chances are they will lose their job.
 
2013-07-31 01:05:36 PM  

steamingpile: If you order food from any place where they prepare it as you order it and you don't tip then you are the asshole. These people hustle to get your food ready for you so show a little gratitude.


Yeah, this. There's a real difference between "12 orders individually" and "one order for 12 peoples' worth of food" that goes beyond how many times you have to open the cash drawer.

The BF works for a major fast food chain and they're given 2 minutes as their benchmark for duration of an order (from the time ordering begins to the time the food is delivered), so let's say for a hipster douchey fancy-ass truck that we'll let them have 3 minutes to grill us a cheese. 10 people individually ordering should take no longer than half an hour (if they absolutely suck at multitasking; realistically it'll be like 15-20 minutes). Ten people ordering at once should take 3 minutes, but will probably take 5 since it's being cooked inside a food truck and not, say, in a full size kitchen that can accommodate that large an order at once.

Large-order tips are, as I have always understood them, to compensate for the fact that your restaurant is turning an absolutely silly amount of food out in roughly the same amount of time as a more "normal" order would take. And that's not really wrong of them. And yes, I actually do tip the Chinese restaurant or pizza place when I go to get a take-out order for a large amount of people, because they busted their butts to get it out to me in a standard time window, which is above and beyond regular service.

/grew up in a catering kitchen
//slung lattes for 2 years in college
///some extra slashies for whoever wants em
//
 
2013-07-31 01:07:34 PM  

farkerofDOOM: was pretty lucky in the places I worked... I had no reservations about all but one of the cooks I had worked with.  One of them was just so f'd up on his drug du jour that he couldn't be trusted around food.  Not so much that it wouldn't be safe to eat - just that he'd give you what he thought would be delicious together ;-)  (Liver topped burger with blue cheese... *shudder*)


I worked at Chilis for a couple years.. one near Atlantic City and one near Camden, NJ.  Most of the cooks were whacked out on smack or crack.
 
2013-07-31 01:11:17 PM  

Musikslayer: EffervescingElephant: Musikslayer: For those who didn't read the article or the additional linked article:
1. The guy who got fired wrote the linked article. He's a douche, and basically admits that.
2. It wasn't 20 sammiches, it was 12 and 5-6 shakes.
3. 12 people were actually there. This was not a phone order, 12 employees of Glass Lewis were ordering, separately. The fact that they paid with one credit card is irrevelant, in fact it was helpful to the truck as it saved credit card charges and was far quicker.
4. They picked up their orders individually. When they did, the fired guy harrased them and asked if they had planned not to tip.

So, to recap: the fired guy is an idiot and a douche. The 12 people were just 12 people standing at a food truck. Douche is shaming ordinary people, not some mega-corporation (BTW, they do financial research). The owner was correct in firing him.


Yea, I'm going to have to agree here - 170.00 = about 12 sandwiches and 5 or 6 shakes according to the menu. 12 people lined up at the truck - paid with one credit card.

However i don't have an issue with tip shaming when it is deserved -

We don't actually know that it was deserved. The guy's article makes it quite clear that he has a chip on his shoulder and is a moron. It's entirely possible that the food was slow and came with an attitude. He admits in his article that he was shaking down individuals. Odds are heavy that bossman was taking out 11 co-workers and they didn't even think about the tip since they were being treated to lunch. If he is as much of a douche in real life as he was in his article (BTW the kid is an intern for some online hipster magazine), he's not going to get tips.

A few months back, a waitress gave us some snide comment about not leaving a tip. Unfortunately for her, she was looking at the table from an angle, and couldn't see the generous tip we left. We raised hell with the manager, said we would never come back, and we never did.(I was man enough to ...


The airline bag handlers (curbside check in) at JFK used to loudly announce that it was "6 dollars per bag" when in fact, there is no fee.  That's just what they wanted to be tipped. one time I stood there announcing that there actually was no fee for handling the bags.

Yeah, I am not against you getting a tip, but misleading people into thinking it's a fee is horseshiat.

And yes, I spent 4 years in the service industry busting my ass for tips.
 
2013-07-31 01:15:07 PM  
Twitter will be the cause of the fall of the American empire.  First this "shaming" fad has created an environment where people do not interact with others and try to solve whatever problem they may have, instead individual 1 acts rudely calling out individual number 2 for doing something rude.  Almost an imperfect circle of life in 140 characters or less.

Mark my words... before too long, some prominent politician is going to lose his job because he tweeted his junk....
 
2013-07-31 01:15:25 PM  

lordargent: Deadite: Which if you've never seen it or eaten it looks like this if you order whats known as a Navajo Taco around here.

Taco salad around these parts.


We have those as well but taco salads are made with tortilla's and are crunchy, the pic I posted uses frybread and is like a taco salad with a soft taco that is deep fried in heart stopping goodness and yet is still soft.
 
2013-07-31 01:16:13 PM  

tripleseven: Musikslayer: EffervescingElephant: Musikslayer: For those who didn't read the article or the additional linked article:
1. The guy who got fired wrote the linked article. He's a douche, and basically admits that.
2. It wasn't 20 sammiches, it was 12 and 5-6 shakes.
3. 12 people were actually there. This was not a phone order, 12 employees of Glass Lewis were ordering, separately. The fact that they paid with one credit card is irrevelant, in fact it was helpful to the truck as it saved credit card charges and was far quicker.
4. They picked up their orders individually. When they did, the fired guy harrased them and asked if they had planned not to tip.

So, to recap: the fired guy is an idiot and a douche. The 12 people were just 12 people standing at a food truck. Douche is shaming ordinary people, not some mega-corporation (BTW, they do financial research). The owner was correct in firing him.


Yea, I'm going to have to agree here - 170.00 = about 12 sandwiches and 5 or 6 shakes according to the menu. 12 people lined up at the truck - paid with one credit card.

However i don't have an issue with tip shaming when it is deserved -

We don't actually know that it was deserved. The guy's article makes it quite clear that he has a chip on his shoulder and is a moron. It's entirely possible that the food was slow and came with an attitude. He admits in his article that he was shaking down individuals. Odds are heavy that bossman was taking out 11 co-workers and they didn't even think about the tip since they were being treated to lunch. If he is as much of a douche in real life as he was in his article (BTW the kid is an intern for some online hipster magazine), he's not going to get tips.

A few months back, a waitress gave us some snide comment about not leaving a tip. Unfortunately for her, she was looking at the table from an angle, and couldn't see the generous tip we left. We raised hell with the manager, said we would never come back, and we never did.(I was m ...


And I will clarify that, this was at least 8 years ago.  I think they've instituted a fee now.

However, a quick online search implies the scam has just changed (they weigh your bag, tell you it's overweight but if you tip them they won't charge you)
 
2013-07-31 01:23:54 PM  
Has anyone mentioned yet about how tipping is just nice people subsidizing the meals of jerks?
 
2013-07-31 01:30:20 PM  
Deadite: We have those as well but taco salads are made with tortilla's and are crunchy, the pic I posted uses frybread and is like a taco salad with a soft taco that is deep fried in heart stopping goodness and yet is still soft.

Flour tortillas puff up like that when fried (but then is hollow and crunchy), from the wiki description, it sounds like frybread is denser (like a Johnnycake?).
 
2013-07-31 01:31:14 PM  
Johnnycake

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-31 01:42:10 PM  
MugzyBrown:
I worked at Chilis for a couple years.. one near Atlantic City and one near Camden, NJ.  Most of the cooks were whacked out on smack or crack.


I'm totally shocked.  Honest.  So many talented cooks want to work at places like Chilis they should have the pick of the litter.

/Applebees in Charleston is a great place to meet pharmie addicts.
//Front and back of house.
 
2013-07-31 01:45:53 PM  

tripleseven: DarkSoulNoHope: lewismarktwo: For those of you bemoaning the cost of some grilled cheese sammiches just consider that any fancy melted cheese sammich is called a 'grilled cheese' these days.  All manner of fixins including sauteed veggies and truffle slices... sometimes even meat.

Quiet Hipster. Grilled Cheese only requires two ingredients, cheese and bread (possibly three, if you want butter on top of the bread as it's grilled into the sandwich). Anything else is a different name for a sandwich and it is not worth $7 dollars anywhere.

The value of something is what the market bears.

If people will pay 7 bucks for a grilled cheese, then apparently it's worth 7 bucks.

Avg lunch in manhattan is about 12-15 dollars.


But I suppose I am just bragging, according to certain Midwest hipster farkers.


$7 for a sandwich in a business area is pretty reasonable.  if it's on fresh bread with decent ingredients, that's not bad at all.  however, if i was in some gas station in the middle of no-where.... i would not pay $7 for a sandwich.  lunch prices include a convenience price, by which i mean, the mark up a restaurant can charge for that location. it is a business afterall, not some humanitarian service to make sure we're happy and fat.

/ air at sea level is a lot cheaper than air on mt Everest
 
2013-07-31 02:05:17 PM  

Musikslayer: EffervescingElephant: Musikslayer: For those who didn't read the article or the additional linked article:
1. The guy who got fired wrote the linked article. He's a douche, and basically admits that.
2. It wasn't 20 sammiches, it was 12 and 5-6 shakes.
3. 12 people were actually there. This was not a phone order, 12 employees of Glass Lewis were ordering, separately. The fact that they paid with one credit card is irrevelant, in fact it was helpful to the truck as it saved credit card charges and was far quicker.
4. They picked up their orders individually. When they did, the fired guy harrased them and asked if they had planned not to tip.

So, to recap: the fired guy is an idiot and a douche. The 12 people were just 12 people standing at a food truck. Douche is shaming ordinary people, not some mega-corporation (BTW, they do financial research). The owner was correct in firing him.


Yea, I'm going to have to agree here - 170.00 = about 12 sandwiches and 5 or 6 shakes according to the menu. 12 people lined up at the truck - paid with one credit card.

However i don't have an issue with tip shaming when it is deserved -

We don't actually know that it was deserved. The guy's article makes it quite clear that he has a chip on his shoulder and is a moron. It's entirely possible that the food was slow and came with an attitude. He admits in his article that he was shaking down individuals. Odds are heavy that bossman was taking out 11 co-workers and they didn't even think about the tip since they were being treated to lunch. If he is as much of a douche in real life as he was in his article (BTW the kid is an intern for some online hipster magazine), he's not going to get tips.

A few months back, a waitress gave us some snide comment about not leaving a tip. Unfortunately for her, she was looking at the table from an angle, and couldn't see the generous tip we left. We raised hell with the manager, said we would never come back, and we never did.(I was man enough to ...



I thought i made it clear in my post that i didn't think that the shaming was deserved...this was 12 people ordering food paid with one credit card - no different than if i decided to pay for the 12 people standing in line ahead of me - does that put me on the hook for paying a tip, just because i decide to pay for everyone's meal?

They were no different than anyone else in that line other than they happened to be in a group from the same place.

i don't know what the tipping standards are for food trucks, I assume they make minimum wage or better.

The ONLY people that deserve tips are the folks that work for LESS than minimum wage - and tips are compensation based on incentive and performance.

Putting a tip jar at a take out window should be for situations where someone has special or unusual requests, or goes beyond what is expected. The guy gets paid to make sandwiches and hand them to me. I'm not obligated to pay him anything more...if he doesn't like his pay, he needs to take it up with the boss or find another job. (again assuming they are making minimum wage or more) - you don't tip the guy at McDonald's - I don't see how a food truck is any different.

I said i think what the guy did was wrong - the shaming wasn't deserved based on the facts. BUT - as consumers we can say whatever we want about companies and their products, sometimes people write complete shiate about restaurants and no one is stopping them. If customers behave badly, i don't see why we cant identify them.

I can see your point on how it can backfire  - I might have to reconsider my stance on that


/have worked in the food industry, at a counter, as a waiter, line cook and fast food
 
2013-07-31 02:24:54 PM  

lordargent: Johnnycake

[upload.wikimedia.org image 668x600]


That looks more like frybread... what you'd make an Indian Taco with. Which are delicious.
 
2013-07-31 02:50:56 PM  

lordargent: Johnnycake

[upload.wikimedia.org image 668x600]


1.bp.blogspot.com

Hoecake.

/Hoes gotta eat too!
 
2013-07-31 03:49:38 PM  

bighairyguy: Here's a tip, don't expect a tip.


He's is a tip, don't tip expect anything but the bare minimum of rude service next time. Seriously, next time you want to eat out go to the gas station, buy a bean burrito and heat it in the microwave. Because people like you just waste service peoples time.
 
2013-07-31 03:57:48 PM  

gibbon1: bighairyguy: Here's a tip, don't expect a tip.

He's is a tip, don't tip expect anything but the bare minimum of rude service next time. Seriously, next time you want to eat out go to the gas station, buy a bean burrito and heat it in the microwave. Because people like you just waste service peoples time.


We're talking about a guy who makes grilled cheese sandwiches for a living, not a lap dance.
What exactly does bare minimum rude service look like vs absolute maximum best service?  In my book "I give you money, you give me a sandwich" is the definition of both of those.  Sure, the guy might spit in it or something, but I consider that below minimum service.  If there's a possibility to go above the maximum grilled cheese making service, I'm not sure I want to know what that is.  Maybe I'll just live in ignorant bliss.
 
2013-07-31 04:02:53 PM  

gibbon1: bighairyguy: Here's a tip, don't expect a tip.

He's is a tip, don't tip expect anything but the bare minimum of rude service next time. Seriously, next time you want to eat out go to the gas station, buy a bean burrito and heat it in the microwave. Because people like you just waste service peoples time.


So which roach coach, I'm sorry, "meal wagon" do you drive?
 
2013-07-31 04:16:15 PM  

lordargent: Johnnycake

[upload.wikimedia.org image 668x600]


I'm not sure never had a johnnycake but from appearances yes.
 
2013-07-31 05:22:38 PM  

mike_d85: steamingpile:
I don't get the reason for why they had to fire him, sure he made a mistake but unless this is an ongoing thing then he didn't need to be fired. If anything it sounds like they deserve to be shamed since it sounds like they had lunch catered and didn't tip shiat.

Are you kidding?  If I had been his manager and saw him talk shiat IN the resturant to their faces I would have fired him.  Let alone publicly insulting a customer.  You don't argue with, insult, embarras, or otherwise agitate a customer unnecissarily.

Maybe a sharp word to a customer, then stopping immediately and apologizing.  Putting something in PRINT as though it were the opinion of the company, oh hell no, you're fired.


Hopefully the NSA will soon give business owners complete access to employee phone calls and Internet activity.
 
2013-07-31 05:25:04 PM  

Lady Indica: I'd farking love to pay that $7 for grilled cheese because that would be pretty goddamned cheap for the Bay Area. I pay that for a premade sammich at Whole Foods.


Aren't the made-to-order sandwiches at WFs around $7? They are at the Oakland location. A sandwich that includes meat, cheese, and all the trimmings requested.

$7 for frying two pieces of buttered bread with cheese in between is a rip off. Unless the cheese is exceptional in some manner, or something else(truffle oil?) is added to it.

Grilled cheese sandwiches are served often because they're cheap and easy to make. Pay that much and see it as a convenience fee, not as getting decent food for the money.
 
2013-07-31 05:36:49 PM  

mcreadyblue: Hopefully the NSA will soon give business owners complete access to employee phone calls and Internet activity.


I know some companies were (trying to) require new employees to hand over the passwords to their Facebook, Twitter, and other social media accounts, but I think that one's still up in the air since CISPA was shot down.

I just follow a simple rule; I use social media only to (a) communicate and share pictures and such with family and friends, not the other 8 billion people on the planet, and (b) never ever post anything that I wouldn't want my boss, my mother, or my grandmother to see (were she still around to see it in the first place).
 
2013-07-31 05:52:13 PM  

Lady Indica: Southern100: puffy999: I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.

Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.

You can't and don't preorder food for 70 people at McDonalds. Or Wendy's. Or Jack in the Box. Oh sure perhaps a wee place in Peoria will...but in San Francisco? AHAHAHA. No. fark no. Especially NOT during the lunch rush.
They didn't order the food and pick it up, it was delivered.
If you pre-order food, and have it delivered...you should tip. Don't be a farking jackass. If you place a large order for food for an entire office, you should also tip.


While I'd agree with you in principle about tipping on delivery orders... to be pedantic... off the top of my head, I don't tip at Subway, Quizno's or Chick-Fil-A and all of them allow you to order large quantities of food for an entire office.

Seriously though, if it's delivered to an office, not picked up... what kind of A-hole wouldn't tip? I mean, it isn't like the boss isn't paying is it? It's not even your money.

/also to the point earlier... I was a cook, and we had ridiculously large orders to fill, and not once did the waitress share her tip with us when all she did was check the customer out at the register.
//tipping should be eliminated entirely, or the tips should go primarily to the cooks.
 
2013-07-31 06:53:41 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: /Hoes gotta eat too!


He just got traded to the Astros, so he's gotta drink too...
 
2013-07-31 07:11:46 PM  
Roach coach guy lipping off to Masters of the Universe?  Villein ye are, and villein ye shall remain.
 
2013-07-31 07:32:10 PM  

beer4breakfast: Lady Indica: I'd farking love to pay that $7 for grilled cheese because that would be pretty goddamned cheap for the Bay Area. I pay that for a premade sammich at Whole Foods.

Aren't the made-to-order sandwiches at WFs around $7? They are at the Oakland location. A sandwich that includes meat, cheese, and all the trimmings requested.

$7 for frying two pieces of buttered bread with cheese in between is a rip off. Unless the cheese is exceptional in some manner, or something else(truffle oil?) is added to it.

Grilled cheese sandwiches are served often because they're cheap and easy to make. Pay that much and see it as a convenience fee, not as getting decent food for the money.


You know how I know you didn't read the thread?
 
2013-07-31 07:41:42 PM  
RevMark: That looks more like frybread... what you'd make an Indian Taco with. Which are delicious.

Probably a regional name for the same or similar thing.

"Johnnycake (also jonnycake, johnny cake, journey cake, shawnee cake and johnny bread) is a cornmeal flatbread that was an early American staple food and is prepared on the Atlantic coast from Newfoundland to Jamaica.[1] The food probably originates from the native inhabitants of North America. It is still eaten in the West Indies, Dominican Republic, Bahamas, Colombia, and Bermuda[2] as well as in the United States. In Australia a johnny cake was made with wheat meal and baked on the ashes or fried in a pan."
 
2013-07-31 07:43:07 PM  
RevMark: That looks more like frybread... what you'd make an Indian Taco with. Which are delicious.

VS

"Frybread (also spelled fry bread) is a flat dough fried or deep-fried in oil, shortening, or lard. The dough is generally leavened by yeast or baking powder.[citation needed] Frybread can be eaten alone or with various toppings such as honey, jam, or hot beef. Frybread can also be made into tacos (Indian tacos). It is a simple complement to meals."

// fried + bread, close enough to probably not make much of a difference.
 
2013-07-31 07:51:00 PM  
Fark food trucks.
 
2013-07-31 07:59:16 PM  

C0rf: thamike: I have absolutely no sympathy for overpriced food truck tourist behemoths clogging up the city and nudging out the Salvadoran couple that makes the best pupusas in town

You know how I knew you're near DC before clicking on your profile?

/Pupuserías FTW


Pupusas, Pho, and Peruvian chicken.  It's really the only charm besides low unemployment that Northern VA has.
 
2013-07-31 07:59:35 PM  
RoyBatty:

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

I may have to do a PhotoShop with this sentiment because it accurately expresses my feelings on so many occasions.
 
2013-07-31 08:06:57 PM  

lordargent: "Frybread (also spelled fry bread) is a flat dough fried or deep-fried in oil, shortening, or lard. The dough is generally leavened by yeast or baking powder.[citation needed] Frybread can be eaten alone or with various toppings such as honey, jam, or hot beef. Frybread can also be made into tacos (Indian tacos). It is a simple complement to meals."

// fried + bread, close enough to probably not make much of a difference.


My mother used to make that, except she called it Hot Water Cornbread.. made out of cornmeal, natch.

I loved it with butter & syrup.
 
2013-07-31 08:24:27 PM  
I lean towards the company's viewpoint, honestly. We don't know why the company didn't leave a tip - for example, many food service providers roll a gratuity into the bill on large orders, and that assumption may have been made here - but I do know that an employee should not put an employer into the position that this chucklehead did, and then act surprised when their employer fires them for being a chucklehead.

What chuckleheads don't yet understand is that, despite urgings to the contrary, the lifetime of online information is practically  forever.Even if a single provider or ISP pulls the information off their site, the rapidity at which information propagates makes it devilishly hard to undo harm. Cached sites, screenshots, forums, etc. - once it's up, chances are that it's up forever. This chucklehead caused harm to the business of his employer, and for no useful reason. To appease a customer that apparently is willing to drop $170 a pop with them, the employer had to make a gesture, and firing this chucklehead was a fairly solid one.
 
2013-07-31 08:28:05 PM  

FormlessOne: I lean towards the company's viewpoint, honestly. We don't know why the company didn't leave a tip - for example, many food service providers roll a gratuity into the bill on large orders, and that assumption may have been made here - but I do know that an employee should not put an employer into the position that this chucklehead did, and then act surprised when their employer fires them for being a chucklehead.

What chuckleheads don't yet understand is that, despite urgings to the contrary, the lifetime of online information is practically  forever.Even if a single provider or ISP pulls the information off their site, the rapidity at which information propagates makes it devilishly hard to undo harm. Cached sites, screenshots, forums, etc. - once it's up, chances are that it's up forever. This chucklehead caused harm to the business of his employer, and for no useful reason. To appease a customer that apparently is willing to drop $170 a pop with them, the employer had to make a gesture, and firing this chucklehead was a fairly solid one.


i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-07-31 08:35:08 PM  
FormlessOne: I lean towards the company's viewpoint, honestly. We don't know why the company didn't leave a tip - for example, many food service providers roll a gratuity into the bill on large orders, and that assumption may have been made here - but I do know that an employee should not put an employer into the position that this chucklehead did

This automatic tip thing needs to stop. When did tips go from being a reward to an expected thing.

Put a service charge on the bill and pay your servers a legitimate wage.

THEN if service is above normal, I will give an additional tip that's in line with the level of service received.
 
2013-07-31 09:07:16 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This! I would never eat any sandwich that costs this much. I'm so glad that I live here in Waco, TX where we have significantly limited dining options. I would never want to live in a place like New Dork City with all of their crazy food. My cousin went there and he said the Olive Garden in Times Square charged almost twice what they do here in Waco. What is wrong with those people?


Whether or not you meant this comment seriously, it's gold either way.
 
2013-07-31 11:45:34 PM  

thamike: WE SHOULD START A FOOD TRUCK, LIKE THE COLOREDS!


Plonk and good farking riddance.
 
2013-07-31 11:47:02 PM  

puffy999: I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you


So stay at home if food is all you want. Nobody is forcing you to go out. You are, however, forcing people to have to deal with your sour ass every time you patronize them.
 
2013-07-31 11:47:06 PM  

thamike: puffy999: so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

They sell the drugs to the managers, waiters, and customers by proxy.  Have you ever tipped a drug dealer?


In the restaurant I currently work at (hopefully not for much longer), the kitchen gets a cut I the server's tips because we help them out (run their salads and food, buss their tables, etc.)

And, hypothetically speaking, I would tip a drug dealer if he brought some edibles and hashish (bigger charge than just straight weed) back for me when he last came back to visit from Colorado. Hypothetically.
 
2013-07-31 11:55:11 PM  

FarkinNortherner: Wow. What a whiny, entitled, little prick.

The justice or injustice of tipping is a question again under hot debate; the incivility of failing to leave a tip on an order of that size, in the current arrangement of things, is not. There is a reason so many restaurants impose a mandatory tip on parties of a certain size.

It's not a restaurant, farkwit. You don't have servers whose time is disproportionately taken up by larger groups, you don't even deliver. The difference between a dozen customers and one bill and a dozen customers and a dozen bills is that you only have to process one transaction.


You have clearly not RTFA or worked any sort of food service.
 
2013-08-01 12:00:10 AM  
There are so many ways the "Leadership Team" could have handled this well and only one way they could have mishandled it.

And yes I am saying they mishandled it.

East coast mgmt. should have walked back to the truck , ordered another round for more employees, tipped and of coarse asked who got the tip last time so they can be reimbursed. Finding out that no tip was left, they could have fixed that oversite, apologized and then watch twitter miracles happen.

Head Office should have explained how to do the above or something similar where everyone wins.

Neither mgmt. teams have the savvy to be called "Leaders" and neither deserve a Bonus (aka TIP) this year as they exposed  their entire organization to further ridicule with their response.

It may not have been the smartest move by the guy at the food truck to complain on Twitter, but  I can sympathize for his need for more money. The Occupy protests and events around the 2007 financial collapse showed how me  the people at the top (and the decision to complain to the food truck owner came from the top) can't lose while those at the bottom have to beg for every win.

I will also add that the decision to get the Twiiter poster seems like an opportunistic abuse of someone who has relatively little power.  Again I would conclude that the need to squash someone who is powerless to fight back is an indication of that managers abilities.
 
2013-08-01 12:07:41 AM  

Spanky McStupid: doonerpjenkins: It's not unusual to tip at least 10% at a food truck...

I should tip 10% to someone who hands me a sandwich through a truck opening?  Please educate me: how much should I tip a vending machine that does the same thing?


You should just stick to the vending machine.
 
2013-08-01 12:09:22 AM  

skozlaw: Tipping is a stupid thing and I hate it. You're billing me twice for one thing.

I hate it even more that every place you go has a tip jar. The Arby's in the food court has a tip jar. It's farking Arby's. And it's a slow Arby's at that. I'm not tipping you. Every time I decide to give you another chance you take 10 minutes to assemble a premade roast beef sandwich. And it tastes like ass. And you mumble the whole time and half the time you try to give it to me on a lunch tray when I asked for take out which is prominently printed on the receipt you just spend three minutes gawking at with your jaw at full slack.

Here's a tip, lose the meth habit and go get a real job where your paycheck doesn't suck donkey balls.


Stop going to the places that you know will expect a tip. And stop going to places that you know are consistently bad.
 
2013-08-01 12:27:43 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: I hate it even more that every place you go has a tip jar. The Arby's in the food court has a tip jar. It's farking Arby's. And it's a slow Arby's at that. I'm not tipping you. Every time I decide to give you another chance you take 10 minutes to assemble a premade roast beef sandwich. And it tastes like ass. And you mumble the whole time and half the time you try to give it to me on a lunch tray when I asked for take out which is prominently printed on the receipt you just spend three minutes gawking at with your jaw at full slack.

Here's a tip, lose the meth habit and go get a real job where your paycheck doesn't suck donkey balls.

Stop going to the places that you know will expect a tip. And stop going to places that you know are consistently bad.


When I go into Subway I give the person behind the counter making my sandwich penny stock tips. Then in exchange I take a couple bucks out the jar labelled "Tips" when they're busy ringing up my order. If they don't like it they're free to take away the jar.
 
2013-08-01 01:13:17 AM  

FMR1969: There are so many ways the "Leadership Team" could have handled this well and only one way they could have mishandled it.

And yes I am saying they mishandled it.

East coast mgmt. should have walked back to the truck , ordered another round for more employees, tipped and of coarse asked who got the tip last time so they can be reimbursed. Finding out that no tip was left, they could have fixed that oversite, apologized and then watch twitter miracles happen.

Head Office should have explained how to do the above or something similar where everyone wins.

Neither mgmt. teams have the savvy to be called "Leaders" and neither deserve a Bonus (aka TIP) this year as they exposed  their entire organization to further ridicule with their response.

It may not have been the smartest move by the guy at the food truck to complain on Twitter, but  I can sympathize for his need for more money. The Occupy protests and events around the 2007 financial collapse showed how me  the people at the top (and the decision to complain to the food truck owner came from the top) can't lose while those at the bottom have to beg for every win.

I will also add that the decision to get the Twiiter poster seems like an opportunistic abuse of someone who has relatively little power.  Again I would conclude that the need to squash someone who is powerless to fight back is an indication of that managers abilities.


Try again when you gain some literacy.  Your post is nonsense.
 
2013-08-01 01:25:16 AM  
To soothe their butthurt, I tweeted to  Glass, Lewis and Co. i would provide them 35 free lunches from my food truck!

I make a real heady cream of mushroom.
 
2013-08-01 01:36:52 AM  
Good lord, do people really not understand preparing an order for carry-out is harder and more disruptive than serving a table, for a good server?

Tip for carryout, if only because EVERY time the person will do a spit-take and look at you like you made their day/week/month/life.

This thread is lousy with cheap bastards.
 
2013-08-01 02:25:24 AM  
These lowly minimum-wage food truck employees need to be put in their place. It is unacceptable to insult a SHAREHOLDER ADVISOR. Why, these folks are better than you, and deserve respect. Minimum-wage food truck employees should be thankful for the chance to merely be in contact with SHAREHOLDER ADVISOR'S feces.
 
2013-08-01 04:32:24 AM  

pute kisses like a man: tripleseven: DarkSoulNoHope: lewismarktwo:

$7 for a sandwich in a business area is pretty reasonable.  if it's on fresh bread with decent ingredients, that's not bad at all.  however, if i was in some gas station in the middle of no-where.... i would not pay $7 for a sandwich.  lunch prices include a convenience price, by which i mean, the mark up a restaurant can charge for that location. it is a business afterall, not some humanitarian service to make sure we're happy and fat.

/ air at sea level is a lot cheaper than air on mt Everest


Wait.. isn't that the exact opposite of what you meant to metaphorize?
 
2013-08-01 05:17:14 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: thamike: WE SHOULD START A FOOD TRUCK, LIKE THE COLOREDS!

Plonk and good farking riddance.


Haha, you dumbass.
 
2013-08-01 08:11:13 AM  

Spanky McStupid: doonerpjenkins: It's not unusual to tip at least 10% at a food truck...

I should tip 10% to someone who hands me a sandwich through a truck opening?  Please educate me: how much should I tip a vending machine that does the same thing?


About 90 degrees.
 
2013-08-01 09:06:46 AM  

thamike: Have you ever tipped a drug dealer?


Yes. Quality product and to-your-door service are worth a little something extra.
 
2013-08-01 12:11:19 PM  

lewismarktwo: pute kisses like a man: tripleseven: DarkSoulNoHope: lewismarktwo:

$7 for a sandwich in a business area is pretty reasonable.  if it's on fresh bread with decent ingredients, that's not bad at all.  however, if i was in some gas station in the middle of no-where.... i would not pay $7 for a sandwich.  lunch prices include a convenience price, by which i mean, the mark up a restaurant can charge for that location. it is a business afterall, not some humanitarian service to make sure we're happy and fat.

/ air at sea level is a lot cheaper than air on mt Everest

Wait.. isn't that the exact opposite of what you meant to metaphorize?


i didn't put much thought into it... but, it's not the opposite.  if i'm selling air tanks on mt everestt, i'm going to charge a lot more than if i'm selling air tanks at 0 elevation.  for one, it cost more to get the air up there.  for another, you can't really go any where else to get that air.

so, like the business lunch, if you want to walk some place close, you're going to pay more, among other reasons, because you have less options and the food maker knows it.
 
2013-08-01 02:13:51 PM  
This article from Yahoo says the lunch truck worker moonlights as a reporter.  I think the guy was waiting for a story to AW.  If it was not this tip shamming, it probably would have been an expose on the lunch truck or the industry.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/food-truck-worker-fired-231413345.html
 
2013-08-01 05:38:40 PM  

UtopianDevil: thamike: Have you ever tipped a drug dealer?

Yes. Quality product and to-your-door service are worth a little something extra.


Again, I said drug dealer, not pot dealer.  It's an entirely different set of customs.
 
2013-08-01 05:39:35 PM  
But then again, it was obviously a facetious rhetorical question.
 
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