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(Boing Boing)   "Meet Glass, Lewis and Co., the company that got a food truck employee fired for offending them on Twitter"   (boingboing.net) divider line 265
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2013-07-31 08:01:19 AM
I was going to guess Law firm, but financial firm is a good close second.
 
2013-07-31 08:02:09 AM

Skarekrough: a high-end financial company


Actually, they're a niche data mine that publishes "findings" that are probably mostly purchased as marketing fodder.
 
2013-07-31 08:02:45 AM

E5bie: furterfan: E5bie: 1. Tip shaming by name is NEVER okay. If you need the reasons why spelled out, you probably shouldn't be in food service.

If you need the reasons spelled out to you, you deserve to be in food service, doing a job where you get minimum wage and have to rely on people giving you charity for doing your job

If you only want inferior persons preparing and serving your food, you deserve what you're unwittingly eating.


Personally, I would prefer it if anyone preparing my food had a minimum of a bachelors degree in a biology related subject. but, realistically, food service usually pays peanuts and attracts monkeys
 
2013-07-31 08:03:50 AM

furterfan: food service usually pays peanuts and attracts monkeys


Like liberal arts majors?

*shudder*
 
2013-07-31 08:04:54 AM

furterfan: food service usually pays peanuts and attracts monkeys


You think that's bad, you should see truck driving.

My dad drove a truck.

He also taught my sister calculus in one day.

You know, monkeys.
 
2013-07-31 08:06:17 AM
Lady Indica:
I'd only read the BoingBoing which implied it was a large order placed by a company (tweet kinda implies it too IMO). The article linked on BoingBoing (which I hadn't read) shows that was NOT the case.

It would've been nice to tip, given that such trucks were slammed with extra biz, etc. but there's ZERO obligation to do so on an individual order at a food truck. Guy was totally wrong. I still stand (sit, whatevs ;)) by my 'if you make a company order and they deliver you farking tip' but that wasn't the case here.

He was out of line saying something to them at the truck even. And much more so by tweeting it.

I also missed it was on the east coast, and not in SF. Seriously in SF $7 for a cheese sammich would be pretty good.


Uh-oh. We just got someone, on the Internet, who was able to deal reasonably with being given new information. I'm not sure I'm awake enough to process that yet. Seriously, A+ on that. So nice to see someone who's able to adapt to new information.

As far as tipping for delivery in general, or even service-related industries, absolutely. Pizza guys, furniture/appliance delivery, the installers for my 65" plasma, all tip-worthy. For those that have 'em, Pool chemical guys, lawn care guys, grocery delivery (aka Pea-pod), also tip worthy.
 
2013-07-31 08:06:52 AM

RoyBatty: Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches



$7 for a sandwich is a decent price in NYC for lunch. Its really hard to get lunch for under $10 total in midtown unless you are just grabbing a slice. Hell, the $1 McDouble sells for $1.69 in Manhattan.
 
2013-07-31 08:08:25 AM

Sigh...: You have lost my business, and any referrals I might ever give because of your actions.


hahahahahahaha

God I love impotent protests.
 
2013-07-31 08:10:06 AM
No good guys here. Food truck guy was whiny for tweeting about it. Glass, Lewis and Co. employees were being big babies complaining about the tweet. Glass, Lewis and Co, boss complaining about the food truck guy and getting him fired was a dick move. What is wrong with America when we can't even order lunch without a lot of drama??
 
2013-07-31 08:11:00 AM

Dear Jerk: Everybody behaved poorly here.


Well.  We never heard outrage from the guy behind them who patiently waited his turn to order, so there's that.
 
2013-07-31 08:14:09 AM

oryx: What is wrong with America when we can't even order lunch without a lot of drama??


Wrong?  There's nothing wrong.  It's these damn monkeys who don't realize that I am a somebody and forgetting their place.  Fix that and it's a new day in America, again.
 
2013-07-31 08:15:18 AM
I love to jump on the necks of a greedy corporation as much as the next guy, but I think the Food Truck guy is a just an emo biatch.  If a large group goes to KFC and orders a ton of separate or one single order, no tip is expected.

If a KFC guy delivers said order, then a tip is in store.  No food was delivered or catered here. Its like a fast food counter.  I don't tip the popcorn guy at the theater.
 
2013-07-31 08:20:44 AM

oryx: Glass, Lewis and Co, boss complaining about the food truck guy and getting him fired was a dick move.


An employee who will publicly call out a customer is a crappy employee who needs to be fired.  They did the owner a favor.  Probably deserve a discount on their next order for helping get rid of that moron.
 
2013-07-31 08:21:59 AM

ladyfortuna


(although have you SEEN the price of imported cheese??)


Have you SEEN the menu that RoyBatty posted way upthread??

The cheeses are not imported, unless Vermont, Wisconsin, and New York State are foreign countries.
 
2013-07-31 08:24:02 AM

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.


I'm in. This menu reeks of smug hipster foodie.  And any other adjectives I can't think of now.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-31 08:24:58 AM
$2 for bacon?

How much f*cking bacon are they putting on it?
 
2013-07-31 08:27:22 AM
Everyone involved in TFA sounds like a douchbag.
 
2013-07-31 08:29:49 AM

Green Scorpio: RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.

I'm in. This menu reeks of smug hipster foodie.  And any other adjectives I can't think of now.

[i.imgur.com image 792x641]


Can we add the guy who made their website with cute little images instead of actual text to the list?  I guess he's doing blind people a favor by making it harder for them to find his overpriced crap.
 
2013-07-31 08:30:24 AM
What a bunch of dicks.
 
2013-07-31 08:32:11 AM

serial_crusher: MythDragon: serial_crusher: Oh, they only gave you the agreed upon amount and nothing else? Man, it must suck to only get $170 for some sandwiches.

That's what the owner is getting. The poor schlub horking out the sammiches is probably getting 8 bucks an hour

See, this is why I don't like tipping.  Too many changing and nuanced rules for people to get butthurt about you violating.  You don't tip the "sandwich artist" at subway who only makes $7.25, but you do tip the "sandwich artist" in a truck who makes $8.
If he thinks the working conditions in the truck amount to more than 75 cents/hour, or if he thinks he's somehow entitled to a 10% revenue share, he should take that up with the truck owner, not the truck owner's customers.


Can't say I disagree with you. Generaly, if I am not in a resturant where I am sitting at a table and using up floorspace and/or it involves ordering at a counter and paying beforehand , I'm not tipping.
 
2013-07-31 08:32:17 AM

Southern100: puffy999: I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.

Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.


The more people work in retail and service jobs, the more you'll hear about how tips are expected by [insert service job here]. Makes sense in a 'looking out for your own best interests' kind of way.
 
2013-07-31 08:33:52 AM

kwame: Sigh...: You have lost my business, and any referrals I might ever give because of your actions.

hahahahahahaha

God I love impotent protests.


Why?
 
2013-07-31 08:35:44 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: RoyBatty: The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches

You really don't understand why people would pay $7 for good cheese grilled on fresh-baked bread? I mean, if you like kraft singles on wonderbread, more power to you, but if you want nicer food, you're gonna pay for it, and $7 isn't outrageous, unless you're making minimum wage.


$7 is outrageous for a grilled cheese sandwich no matter how much you are making.
 
2013-07-31 08:35:56 AM

The Muthaship: $2 for bacon?

How much f*cking bacon are they putting on it?


Bacon is stupid expensive anymore.  And getting it in packages that allow for quick food service use is f*cking expensive.  I think the hogs have agents, now.
 
2013-07-31 08:36:24 AM
These

Green Scorpio: RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.

I'm in. This menu reeks of smug hipster foodie.  And any other adjectives I can't think of now.

[i.imgur.com image 792x641]


This!  I would never eat any sandwich that costs this much.  I'm so glad that I live here in Waco, TX where we have significantly limited dining options.  I would never want to live in a place like New Dork City with all of their crazy food.  My cousin went there and he said the Olive Garden in Times Square charged almost twice what they do here in Waco.  What is wrong with those people?
 
2013-07-31 08:36:28 AM

angrycrank: RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 792x641]

Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.

You sound poor.


And you just sound like an asshole. Work on your trolling.
 
2013-07-31 08:38:14 AM

jshine: Southern100: puffy999: I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.

Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.

The more people work in retail and service jobs, the more you'll hear about how tips are expected by [insert service job here]. Makes sense in a 'looking out for your own best interests' kind of way.


Welcome to the new America. Thanks, Reagan. The middle class were a PITA anyway - always expecting things of their betters. We're well off without them.
 
2013-07-31 08:42:00 AM

jshine: Southern100: puffy999: I really, really don't like waiters/waitresses who expect large tips in this country... I go to a restaurant for f*cking food, not to talk to you, so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

Anyway, a food truck, for a large order, should definitely receive some sort of tip. Those guys are doing EVERYTHING.

Why? A food truck is just a mobile fast food restaurant. Do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's? Jack-in-the-Box? Subway? Shipley's Donuts?

How about if you order 20 pizzas from Pizza Hut and pick up the order instead of having it delivered? Do you tip then?

What's next, tipping the people behind the deli counter at your local WalMart because they sliced you a couple pounds of ham? After all, we know they make shiat wages.

The more people work in retail and service jobs, the more you'll hear about how tips are expected by [insert service job here]. Makes sense in a 'looking out for your own best interests' kind of way.


If someone goes above and beyond in the retail sector it isn't a bad idea to give them a tip.  

Some examples
Employee jump starts your car with their own car tip them even if they are on the clock
you ask them to help with a task that takes them away from the sales floor (commissioned associates) for a longer than normal length of time.  
If the employee goes out of their way to get you want you want. Not every store is Nordstrom's.

Tips don't always have to be money.  Buying pizza or bringing donuts is really a nice gesture. 

I once had a customer who came in 20 minutes before closing to have 4 low profile tires mounted on his BMW, (bringing his own tires) We take him in and the techs are thrilled as the tires are a royal pain to mount.  The customer runs across the street to the 5 guys and brings back 2 cheeseburgers each (4 of us) for everyone. 

The guy went from being a late night customer entitled jerk to a heck of a guy with that simple gesture
 
2013-07-31 08:42:45 AM
Lessee.

Food prices have to cover -

Item replacement costs, spices, oils, cookware, appliances, rent, electricity, gas, water, sewage, taxes, labor, overhead and advertising, labor, peripheral service items like containers, cups and take out trays and bags, something for the boss so he doesn't put a match to the place...

A food truck, not so much, yeah, but.. Item replacement costs, gasoline, graphics on the truck, gasoline, licensing, labor, peripherals...  You're not paying for the cost of the bacon.
 
2013-07-31 08:42:54 AM
We're supposed to tip food truck crews?
 
2013-07-31 08:45:31 AM

bunner: The Muthaship: $2 for bacon?

How much f*cking bacon are they putting on it?

Bacon is stupid expensive anymore.  And getting it in packages that allow for quick food service use is f*cking expensive.  I think the hogs have agents, now.



They fry up several pounds in the morning, and put it in a warming-pan on the back of the griddle.
 
2013-07-31 08:45:48 AM

I sound fat: I am a tip promoter, but why would I tip a food truck?


perhaps it's because it's NYC and it costs to breathe in NYC?
perhaps the boss is an asshole and doesn't pay?
perhaps they really do bust their ass for that $25 iTunes card?

When you clog up the services of an entire work crew with no advance notice, you might like to at least think about it.  They're making excuses to their "regular-Joes" as to why (you or I ) have to burn our lunch time waiting in line.

Could have at LEAST given them eternal consciousness on their deathbed . . .
 
2013-07-31 08:47:21 AM

give me doughnuts: They fry up several pounds in the morning, and put it in a warming-pan on the back of the griddle.


As a rule, yeah.  A lot of restaurants with Alto Shaams or convection ovens buy it on paper slipsheets and you bake it up 60 slices at a go.
 
2013-07-31 08:47:25 AM

bunner: Lessee.

Food prices have to cover -

Item replacement costs, spices, oils, cookware, appliances, rent, electricity, gas, water, sewage, taxes, labor, overhead and advertising, labor, peripheral service items like containers, cups and take out trays and bags, something for the boss so he doesn't put a match to the place...

A food truck, not so much, yeah, but.. Item replacement costs, gasoline, graphics on the truck, gasoline, licensing, labor, peripherals...  You're not paying for the cost of the bacon.


But how can things in New Dork City be so expensive?  It's almost like the things cost more there because the input costs are higher - especially the high cost of labor which is generally the largest cost for a business.

Everything there is that way!  Why can't you get a 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan for $500 a month like here in Waco?!  I just don't get it!!!!  They must all be hipster people!
 
2013-07-31 08:48:41 AM

jshine: Why?


There are places I won't patronize because I didn't like the service.  That much I can agree with. It's the people who post on social media or make a point of telling their friends, as if their refusal to visit a business will put those people on notice.  It's so silly that I enjoy it.
 
2013-07-31 08:49:22 AM
 
2013-07-31 08:49:23 AM

RoyBatty: Okay, I vote everyone dies in this story.

The dude that sells $7.00 grilled cheese sandwiches
The assholes that bought 25 of them from one food truck at lunch time
... and made it worse by leaving no tip
Any Manhattan hipster buying $7 grilled cheese sandwiches
The jackass that tweetshamed the assholes
The farktard that fired the jackass
Boing Boing for being Boing Boing.


What's wrong with a $7 grilled cheese? I assume they're using something like smoked guda on artisanal bread, not american processed "cheese" on white. There's a small restaurant chain (4 locations I believe) here in Cleveland that specializes in high end grilled cheese sandwiches, all of them are over $7, even the plain cheese, and they're worth it.
 
2013-07-31 08:52:38 AM
They make it and hand it to you over a counter. Just like a fast food place. No tip necessary as you were not "waited" on.
 
2013-07-31 08:53:05 AM

Rapmaster2000: But how can things in New Dork City be so expensive?  It's almost like the things cost more there because the input costs are higher - especially the high cost of labor which is generally the largest cost for a business.

Everything there is that way!  Why can't you get a 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan for $500 a month like here in Waco?!  I just don't get it!!!!  They must all be hipster people!


It's called price fixing and people with more money than sense being all f*cked about about their zip code.  Moves a lot of money around.
 
2013-07-31 08:54:16 AM

serial_crusher: Oh, they only gave you the agreed upon amount and nothing else? Man, it must suck to only get $170 for some sandwiches.


media.twirlit.com
This is you isn't it?
 
2013-07-31 08:56:16 AM

bunner: Rapmaster2000: But how can things in New Dork City be so expensive?  It's almost like the things cost more there because the input costs are higher - especially the high cost of labor which is generally the largest cost for a business.

Everything there is that way!  Why can't you get a 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan for $500 a month like here in Waco?!  I just don't get it!!!!  They must all be hipster people!

It's called price fixing and people with more money than sense being all f*cked about about their zip code.  Moves a lot of money around.


All I'm saying is that businesses should sell their products at a price below what their customer base will pay for it.  That's just common business sense.  I have a GED in MBA.
 
2013-07-31 08:57:40 AM

Rapmaster2000: bunner: Rapmaster2000: But how can things in New Dork City be so expensive?  It's almost like the things cost more there because the input costs are higher - especially the high cost of labor which is generally the largest cost for a business.

Everything there is that way!  Why can't you get a 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan for $500 a month like here in Waco?!  I just don't get it!!!!  They must all be hipster people!

It's called price fixing and people with more money than sense being all f*cked about about their zip code.  Moves a lot of money around.

All I'm saying is that businesses should sell their products at a price below what their customer base will pay for it.  That's just common business sense.  I have a GED in MBA.


I think there's an ointment for that.   :  )
 
2013-07-31 08:57:42 AM

thamike: puffy999: so I've always wondered why the cooks aren't getting the tips.

They sell the drugs to the managers, waiters, and customers by proxy.  Have you ever tipped a drug dealer?


www.dvdactive.com
Only if they deliver...
 
2013-07-31 08:59:33 AM

thamike: I have absolutely no sympathy for overpriced food truck tourist behemoths clogging up the city and nudging out the Salvadoran couple that makes the best pupusas in town


You know how I knew you're near DC before clicking on your profile?

/Pupuserías FTW
 
2013-07-31 09:03:29 AM

EngineerAU: You're suppose to tip food truck workers? Can I have a list of who should be tipped in America or maybe it'd be easier to come up with a list of people who don't get tips. Does this mean the owner of the food truck pays their workers $2.13/hr?


I tip almost all service industry people, mainly because I have done those jobs and they suck ass.

I don't get the reason for why they had to fire him, sure he made a mistake but unless this is an ongoing thing then he didn't need to be fired. If anything it sounds like they deserve to be shamed since it sounds like they had lunch catered and didn't tip shiat.
 
2013-07-31 09:06:43 AM
All hail the new service economy!

The serfs can whittle little tchotchkes from driftwood and sell them in market stalls like that adorably rustic women we met while touring Peru.  Or simply mop floors or make larded, salty tidbits for the other serfs and wear snappy hats while they push them through a window.

I mean, not around HERE of course, my God man, we have standards.  And biscotti.  Of course you wouldn't know what biscotti is, would you?

Now fetch me my 34 sandwiches, laddie and put your ass into it.  I have things to do with very important people who can read.
 
2013-07-31 09:06:59 AM

E5bie: 1. Tip shaming by name is NEVER okay. If you need the reasons why spelled out, you probably shouldn't be in food service.


Definitely disagree.

Was working a shiat job at a diner for a while, and after a really hard day had a group of 3 guys come in, somehow order like $100 in food and beer (kinda hard at a place with $6 lunch platters) and they ran my ass off.  When I grabbed their payment book off of the table they told me to keep the change.

Literally.  Change.  Like $1.70.

Went back, left a stack of coins on the side of the table and told them "you need this more than I do" and walked off.  After that day, I didn't much care if I got fired because the job was shiat and it's easy enough to replace a serving job (or was at that time).

One of the guys came and found me and explained that his "friend" had taken everyone's cash (with included tip) and told them they were all square - and used the tip money his friends left to cover most of his portion of the bill.  The guy apologized profusely for his friend and gave me a $20.

And now those guys know that their friend is a thieving, untrustable dickbag.  I think I did them a favor.

/csb
 
2013-07-31 09:07:31 AM

Not_Todd: If I own a business, and an employee shames a big customer like that, you're damn right I'd fire them.


This.
 
2013-07-31 09:08:16 AM

I sound fat: I am a tip promoter, but why would I tip a food truck?


if the jar says something awesome, they get tipped.

yesterday's was "Donations for ninja lessons"  I can toss a buck or two in for amusement.
 
2013-07-31 09:09:17 AM

bunner: All hail the new service economy!


Building things makes the trees sad.
 
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