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(Apple Insider)   Samsung: "Our Galaxy 4 beats the iPhone in these benchmarks". Hacker: "Yeah, about that"   (appleinsider.com ) divider line
    More: Fail, Galaxy S, clock speed, GPUs, performance testing, user experience, AnandTech, Samsung, Android  
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2013-07-30 07:58:17 PM  
*Yawn*

Who cares, really? Apple products are for people who like apple products and Samsung produces products for those looking to do different things. At the end of the day they're both comparably as fast as each other and they both look fantastic.  I used to use iphones because at the time they did what i wanted. I switched to android when i wanted to do something different. I think most phone users are the same.
 
2013-07-30 08:04:13 PM  
photos.appleinsider.com

Need I say more?
 
2013-07-30 08:05:06 PM  
Anyone know why they would do that, though?  What's the advantage of throttling the speed back the rest of the time?
 
2013-07-30 08:16:51 PM  
Their shared GPU design makes the two chips easier to compare, even though Samsung's are clocked to run faster (533MHz vs 300MHz).

However, in looking at Samsung's chip, AnandTech was able to verify what a poster had reported on graphics website Beyond3D: Samsung was specifically enabling full speed GPU performance only when running specific benchmarks, and then reverting to slower 480MHz speeds when being used to play games or run other apps.



Isn't 480 still > 300?
 
2013-07-30 08:17:48 PM  

timujin: Anyone know why they would do that, though?  What's the advantage of throttling the speed back the rest of the time?


Most likely battery life.
 
2013-07-30 08:19:14 PM  
Database software vendors used to do this all the time with TPS reports.
 
2013-07-30 08:33:20 PM  

timujin: Anyone know why they would do that, though?  What's the advantage of throttling the speed back the rest of the time?


cooler running
longer battery life
 
2013-07-30 08:36:19 PM  

timujin: Anyone know why they would do that, though?  What's the advantage of throttling the speed back the rest of the time?


http://www.androidbenchmark.net/

higher on the list is higher on the list
 
2013-07-30 08:41:20 PM  
Why the hell would u give samsung your money

Not only do there phones S U C K samsung is a chinese company

If you give samsung your money you are supporting big corporatins who make all there products in china

Buy apple u idiotss

Posted from my iPhone
 
2013-07-30 08:49:40 PM  
Bill Gates smiles, scratches his balls and walks away.
 
2013-07-30 08:49:55 PM  
It's still impossible to type on an apple product though, right?
 
2013-07-30 09:00:35 PM  
*laughs at both, goes back to playing with HTC One*
 
2013-07-30 09:23:06 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Why the hell would u give samsung your money

Not only do there phones S U C K samsung is a chinese company

If you give samsung your money you are supporting big corporatins who make all there products in china

Buy apple u idiotss

Posted from my iPhone


Teach me. I am but a young grasshopper, needing your wisdom.
 
2013-07-30 09:35:04 PM  
Wait.. You're a hacker now if you know how to read clock speeds?
 
2013-07-30 09:37:24 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Their shared GPU design makes the two chips easier to compare, even though Samsung's are clocked to run faster (533MHz vs 300MHz).

However, in looking at Samsung's chip, AnandTech was able to verify what a poster had reported on graphics website Beyond3D: Samsung was specifically enabling full speed GPU performance only when running specific benchmarks, and then reverting to slower 480MHz speeds when being used to play games or run other apps.


Isn't 480 still > 300?


Not only is it higher than 300 but it's probably down to preserve battery life.
 
2013-07-30 09:39:58 PM  

dickfreckle: Mike_LowELL: Why the hell would u give samsung your money

Not only do there phones S U C K samsung is a chinese company

If you give samsung your money you are supporting big corporatins who make all there products in china

Buy apple u idiotss

Posted from my iPhone

Teach me. I am but a young grasshopper, needing your wisdom.


I too am lacking this wisdom, and Mr. Low has much to share.  We need to hear moar.
 
2013-07-30 09:44:13 PM  
Ah cool~! A thread where I can say "Fark the IPhone and Fark Samsung!"

Sony Xperia Z FTW:

cdn2.gsmarena.com
 
2013-07-30 09:45:56 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Bill Gates smiles, scratches his balls and walks away.


He can actually do that because he doesn't worry about what Microsoft does.  If he did, he'd fire the entire group of people that produced the Windows Phone 'cause those things blow chunks.
 
2013-07-30 09:46:44 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: dickfreckle: Mike_LowELL: Why the hell would u give samsung your money

Not only do there phones S U C K samsung is a chinese company

If you give samsung your money you are supporting big corporatins who make all there products in china

Buy apple u idiotss

Posted from my iPhone

Teach me. I am but a young grasshopper, needing your wisdom.

I too am lacking this wisdom, and Mr. Low has much to share.  We need to hear moar.


What is the sound of one hand face palming? If someone trolls a thread and no one bites, does it makes a sound.
 
2013-07-30 09:47:43 PM  
It's Quake 3 Arena all over again.  A video card manufacturer once detected when Quake 3 was being run, and reduced the video quality (used half-sized textures) during that time to improve the frame rate, since Quake 3 was a popular benchmark.
 
2013-07-30 09:48:35 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Marcus Aurelius: dickfreckle: Mike_LowELL: Why the hell would u give samsung your money

Not only do there phones S U C K samsung is a chinese company

If you give samsung your money you are supporting big corporatins who make all there products in china

Buy apple u idiotss

Posted from my iPhone

Teach me. I am but a young grasshopper, needing your wisdom.

I too am lacking this wisdom, and Mr. Low has much to share.  We need to hear moar.

What is the sound of one hand face palming? If someone trolls a thread and no one bites, does it makes a sound.


Oh don't worry, some IPhone hater will come along going all "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" at Mike's comment.

Wait for it...
 
2013-07-30 09:49:10 PM  

Rwa2play: Ah cool~! A thread where I can say "Fark the IPhone and Fark Samsung!"

Sony Xperia Z FTW:

[cdn2.gsmarena.com image 489x550]


I'll join you in showing off our phone porn

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-30 09:51:15 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Why the hell would u give samsung your money

Not only do there phones S U C K samsung is a chinese company

If you give samsung your money you are supporting big corporatins who make all there products in china

Buy apple u idiotss

Posted from my iPhone


10/10, never before has this award been given insofar as I know
 
2013-07-30 09:51:26 PM  
Both are bad so vote Lumia 1020 i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-30 09:52:25 PM  

styckx: Rwa2play: Ah cool~! A thread where I can say "Fark the IPhone and Fark Samsung!"

Sony Xperia Z FTW:

[cdn2.gsmarena.com image 489x550]

I'll join you in showing off our phone porn

[i.imgur.com image 850x1418]


The Nexus 4?  Was seriously thinking about picking up that phone and I still might.  Saw the specs and reviews for the Xperia and I need to snap that one up.
 
2013-07-30 09:54:09 PM  
Yep, I can internet fast on my phone.
 
2013-07-30 09:56:38 PM  

Shakin_Haitian: Yep, I can internet fast on my phone.


Yes. At&t LTE Chicago i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-30 09:56:44 PM  

Rwa2play: styckx: Rwa2play: Ah cool~! A thread where I can say "Fark the IPhone and Fark Samsung!"

Sony Xperia Z FTW:

[cdn2.gsmarena.com image 489x550]

I'll join you in showing off our phone porn

[i.imgur.com image 850x1418]

The Nexus 4?  Was seriously thinking about picking up that phone and I still might.  Saw the specs and reviews for the Xperia and I need to snap that one up.


Yep..  I haven't deviated from the Nexus line since I bought a Nexus S years back.. The best way to experience Android.
 
2013-07-30 09:58:21 PM  
Still no cure for being tied to itunes.
 
2013-07-30 10:00:51 PM  

styckx: Rwa2play: styckx: Rwa2play: Ah cool~! A thread where I can say "Fark the IPhone and Fark Samsung!"

Sony Xperia Z FTW:

[cdn2.gsmarena.com image 489x550]

I'll join you in showing off our phone porn

[i.imgur.com image 850x1418]

The Nexus 4?  Was seriously thinking about picking up that phone and I still might.  Saw the specs and reviews for the Xperia and I need to snap that one up.

Yep..  I haven't deviated from the Nexus line since I bought a Nexus S years back.. The best way to experience Android.


So I've heard.  Really want the Xperia Z for the audio quality so I can listen to podcasts.  Frankly, I've gotten tired of maxing out the volume on my iPod touch on certain podcasts and it goes barely above normal chatter and it is...slow.
 
2013-07-30 10:03:21 PM  

RobertBruce: Still no cure for being tied to itunes.


PowerAmp or WinAmp for Android once you ditch the IPhone/IPod Touch.
 
2013-07-30 10:03:25 PM  

Rwa2play: styckx: Rwa2play: styckx: Rwa2play: Ah cool~! A thread where I can say "Fark the IPhone and Fark Samsung!"

Sony Xperia Z FTW:

[cdn2.gsmarena.com image 489x550]

I'll join you in showing off our phone porn

[i.imgur.com image 850x1418]

The Nexus 4?  Was seriously thinking about picking up that phone and I still might.  Saw the specs and reviews for the Xperia and I need to snap that one up.

Yep..  I haven't deviated from the Nexus line since I bought a Nexus S years back.. The best way to experience Android.

So I've heard.  Really want the Xperia Z for the audio quality so I can listen to podcasts.  Frankly, I've gotten tired of maxing out the volume on my iPod touch on certain podcasts and it goes barely above normal chatter and it is...slow.


The audio quality isn't bad on it at all. Most were surprised. But I use my Nexus S and Nexus 10 for audio purposes since they both have a Wolfson DAC which is superior to all. It's the only bonus to buying a Samsung product is the Wolfson DAC they put in their toys.
 
2013-07-30 10:04:49 PM  
Apple is focused on providing a great user experience, everyone else is focused on specs and stats. This article is just one more example. End of story.
 
2013-07-30 10:06:57 PM  

Rwa2play: RobertBruce: Still no cure for being tied to itunes.

PowerAmp or WinAmp for Android once you ditch the IPhone/IPod Touch.


I already use android.  That's just my huge reason for hating the ipod/iphone environment
 
2013-07-30 10:08:47 PM  
So the Galaxy 4 would be a great phone for ARod. Samsung should get an endorsement from ARod.
 
2013-07-30 10:11:11 PM  
Ultimately... who cares?

They are smartphones.  Smartphones are ultimately just an expensive toy.  You can't do anything really useful on a device that doesn't support ease of large amounts of text input.  The CPU is too low power for anything more than fancy flash games, the keypad is a nightmare to put any serious text down on, and the camera, while ok for day to day use, isn't anywhere near spec for photography.  It's not something that you can get any actual WORK done on that you couldn't reproduce with a simpler phone.

If you enjoy your phone being an expensive toy, great.  More power to ya, free country, yadda yadda.  Stop acting like it's anything important though, because it's a toy, and it always will be a toy.

But still shame on Samsung, gaming your benchmarks is bad business even if it is on your line of toys.
 
2013-07-30 10:13:27 PM  

styckx: Rwa2play: styckx: Rwa2play: styckx: Rwa2play: Ah cool~! A thread where I can say "Fark the IPhone and Fark Samsung!"

Sony Xperia Z FTW:

[cdn2.gsmarena.com image 489x550]

I'll join you in showing off our phone porn

[i.imgur.com image 850x1418]

The Nexus 4?  Was seriously thinking about picking up that phone and I still might.  Saw the specs and reviews for the Xperia and I need to snap that one up.

Yep..  I haven't deviated from the Nexus line since I bought a Nexus S years back.. The best way to experience Android.

So I've heard.  Really want the Xperia Z for the audio quality so I can listen to podcasts.  Frankly, I've gotten tired of maxing out the volume on my iPod touch on certain podcasts and it goes barely above normal chatter and it is...slow.

The audio quality isn't bad on it at all. Most were surprised. But I use my Nexus S and Nexus 10 for audio purposes since they both have a Wolfson DAC which is superior to all. It's the only bonus to buying a Samsung product is the Wolfson DAC they put in their toys.


I was going to buy the Galaxy S III but didn't have enough money for it so I decided to wait 2 weeks.  In the meantime I've done some researching, love the Nexus 4 for the Android experience and the quad-core processor.  The drawback?  No SD card slot; that's the only thing that kills it.  The Xperia Z has that SD card slot so I can copy all of my music to that SD card; Sony's also never slouched on audio quality on many of their products.  So I expect no less from the Xperia.
 
2013-07-30 10:14:25 PM  
Dwedit : It's Quake 3 Arena all over again. A video card manufacturer once detected when Quake 3 was being run, and reduced the video quality (used half-sized textures) during that time to improve the frame rate, since Quake 3 was a popular benchmark.

This was rampant back at the dawn of the PC gaming era.

// It was either anand or tom that caught em back then too.
 
2013-07-30 10:14:43 PM  

RobertBruce: Rwa2play: RobertBruce: Still no cure for being tied to itunes.

PowerAmp or WinAmp for Android once you ditch the IPhone/IPod Touch.

I already use android.  That's just my huge reason for hating the ipod/iphone environment


I feel you, I farking hate using iTunes to sync my IPod touch on my PC.  I try to use gPodder as often as possible.
 
2013-07-30 10:16:14 PM  

Rwa2play: styckx: Rwa2play: styckx: Rwa2play: styckx: Rwa2play: Ah cool~! A thread where I can say "Fark the IPhone and Fark Samsung!"

Sony Xperia Z FTW:

[cdn2.gsmarena.com image 489x550]

I'll join you in showing off our phone porn

[i.imgur.com image 850x1418]

The Nexus 4?  Was seriously thinking about picking up that phone and I still might.  Saw the specs and reviews for the Xperia and I need to snap that one up.

Yep..  I haven't deviated from the Nexus line since I bought a Nexus S years back.. The best way to experience Android.

So I've heard.  Really want the Xperia Z for the audio quality so I can listen to podcasts.  Frankly, I've gotten tired of maxing out the volume on my iPod touch on certain podcasts and it goes barely above normal chatter and it is...slow.

The audio quality isn't bad on it at all. Most were surprised. But I use my Nexus S and Nexus 10 for audio purposes since they both have a Wolfson DAC which is superior to all. It's the only bonus to buying a Samsung product is the Wolfson DAC they put in their toys.

I was going to buy the Galaxy S III but didn't have enough money for it so I decided to wait 2 weeks.  In the meantime I've done some researching, love the Nexus 4 for the Android experience and the quad-core processor.  The drawback?  No SD card slot; that's the only thing that kills it.  The Xperia Z has that SD card slot so I can copy all of my music to that SD card; Sony's also never slouched on audio quality on many of their products.  So I expect no less from the Xperia.


Yeah.. Sony is a dark horse i the Android game.. They've very AOSP friendly and build really solid devices without a lot of bloat and stupid resource heavy skins. (Touchwiz)  And I can't disagree with you about the SD Card slot. That's something Google will never change their mind about unfortunately.
 
2013-07-30 10:18:05 PM  
Flash back to a decade ago.

"We have now established that NVIDIA's Detonator FX drivers contain certain detection mechanisms that cause an artificially high score when using 3DMark03. We have just published a patch 330 for 3DMark03 that defeats the detection mechanisms in the drivers and provides correct results."

http://www.geek.com/games/nvidia-accused-of-cheating-in-3dmark03-ben ch marks-556109/ Geek.com - May. 23, 2003 2:24 pm

// I know someone got dinged for this even earlier than that.
 
2013-07-30 10:19:17 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Both are bad so vote Lumia 1020


Does the camera live up to the hype? I've heard good things.
 
2013-07-30 10:20:50 PM  
I'm not into this whole phone fetish thing, but I did get a Galaxy S4. It was only $100 when I traded in my old phone with AT&T.  I also have a RAZR Maxx HD for a work phone from Verizon.  So far, my AT&T phone works everywhere better than my Verizon phone (Boston and points North, and while traveling). As for the Apple Vs. Droid argument, I used to have an iPhone but then switched to Droid and I like it better. That's just opinion. But  I love my old school iPod shuffle, too.
 
2013-07-30 10:21:31 PM  
Sun cheating at java benchmarks.

http://www.zdnet.com/sun-accused-of-cheating-java-benchmarks-3002067 05 3/ zdnet - November 5, 1997
 
2013-07-30 10:22:14 PM  

styckx: Rwa2play: I was going to buy the Galaxy S III but didn't have enough money for it so I decided to wait 2 weeks.  In the meantime I've done some researching, love the Nexus 4 for the Android experience and the quad-core processor.  The drawback?  No SD card slot; that's the only thing that kills it.  The Xperia Z has that SD card slot so I can copy all of my music to that SD card; Sony's also never slouched on audio quality on many of their products.  So I expect no less from the Xperia.

Yeah.. Sony is a dark horse i the Android game.. They've very AOSP friendly and build really solid devices without a lot of bloat and stupid resource heavy skins. (Touchwiz)  And I can't disagree with you about the SD Card slot. That's something Google will never change their mind about unfortunately.


If it weren't for my love of music and listening to podcasts going back and forth from work I would've gotten the Nexus 4 in a heartbeat.
 
2013-07-30 10:26:44 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Why the hell would u give samsung your money

Not only do there phones S U C K samsung is a chinese company

If you give samsung your money you are supporting big corporatins who make all there products in china

Buy apple u idiotss

Posted from my iPhone


Samsung is Korean, you derp.
 
2013-07-30 10:30:38 PM  

Mad_Radhu: drjekel_mrhyde: Both are bad so vote Lumia 1020

Does the camera live up to the hype? I've heard good things.


Yes http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-lumia-1020-review-round-up/
 
2013-07-30 10:30:53 PM  

vharshyde: Mike_LowELL: Why the hell would u give samsung your money

Not only do there phones S U C K samsung is a chinese company

If you give samsung your money you are supporting big corporatins who make all there products in china

Buy apple u idiotss

Posted from my iPhone

Samsung is Korean, you derp.


Ha, got one~!
 
2013-07-30 10:32:33 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Mad_Radhu: drjekel_mrhyde: Both are bad so vote Lumia 1020

Does the camera live up to the hype? I've heard good things.

Yes http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-lumia-1020-review-round-up/


Note: Gizmodo is heavy Apple and The Verge is pro-Google
 
2013-07-30 10:37:07 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Database software vendors used to do this all the time with TPS reports.


*hands you a copy of the memo*
 
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