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2013-07-30 05:53:42 PM
www.macmeisters.com

Keep your 'Ho There', I will not be nudged!
 
2013-07-30 07:43:16 PM
SAY NO MORE!
 
2013-07-30 08:02:10 PM
images.usatoday.com

Nudge, Nuge, close enough for me.
 
2013-07-30 08:20:05 PM
It's not hard to control minds of demoncrats. Look at who they elected.
 
2013-07-30 08:21:25 PM

jehovahs witness protection: It's not hard to control minds of demoncrats. Look at who they elected.


I used to enjoy your posts.  Now they just make me feel bad for you..

*ignore*
 
2013-07-30 08:24:31 PM

Lionel Mandrake: jehovahs witness protection: It's not hard to control minds of demoncrats. Look at who they elected.

I used to enjoy your posts.  Now they just make me feel bad for you..

*ignore*


You are just ignoring my unconditional love. Admit it.
 
2013-07-30 08:29:23 PM
Any Real Americans want to explain the degree and nature of the appropriate outrage?

I'm not saying it's a good program, or a terrific use of time and money, but I'm sure I'm missing the potential America-destroying magnitude of this nefarious Communo-fascist mind control apparatus.
 
2013-07-30 08:31:39 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Any Real Americans want to explain the degree and nature of the appropriate outrage?

I'm not saying it's a good program, or a terrific use of time and money, but I'm sure I'm missing the potential America-destroying magnitude of this nefarious Communo-fascist mind control apparatus.


SEE, they already got you...
 
2013-07-30 08:42:28 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Any Real Americans want to explain the degree and nature of the appropriate outrage?


See, it's quite simple.  Trans fats used to be considered good, but now they are bad.  Thus, government programs can never be improved, and Obama is behind it all.
 
2013-07-30 09:03:14 PM
Say no more, say no more!

/Your president, is he a 'goer'?
 
2013-07-30 09:11:39 PM
Do ya? Do ya? Huh? Huh?


We interrupt this program to annoy you and make things generally irritating.
 
2013-07-30 09:20:02 PM
I don't get how this is much different than ads from, say, the Ad Council.
 
2013-07-30 09:53:53 PM

jehovahs witness protection: It's not hard to control minds of demoncrats. Look at who they elected.


I know why you hate it.  You don't want to feel guilty about not paying taxes.
 
2013-07-30 09:55:22 PM

jehovahs witness protection: It's not hard to control minds of demoncrats. Look at who they elected.


So I guess that means that there are more Demoncrats than Republicans, must suck to be on the losing team.
 
2013-07-30 09:55:25 PM
So, what's the over/under on Michael Bloomberg being tapped to lead this thing?
 
2013-07-30 09:57:33 PM
They already do this with the tax code, but I guess this is more of Obama's socialist dystopian future hellscape.
 
2013-07-30 09:59:36 PM
"...design public policies that work better, cost less, and help people to achieve their goals..."

Isn't that the kind of efficient government we should  want?
 
2013-07-30 10:01:29 PM
Government should be responsible for preventing people from committing wrongs. It acts as a method to take away freedoms for the greater benefit of society.

This kind of thing is useless and dumb. Although sometimes it will create something amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw like and such as.
 
2013-07-30 10:03:14 PM

Fjornir: "...design public policies that work better, cost less, and help people to achieve their goals..."

Isn't that the kind of efficient government we should  want?


It's the "public's" policies they want to change. Such as encouraging people to invest in insulation for their attics and paying their taxes on time. Not better legislation and regulation.

You have to read that phrase in context to understand they don't intend to fix the laws.
 
2013-07-30 10:06:04 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Fjornir: "...design public policies that work better, cost less, and help people to achieve their goals..."

Isn't that the kind of efficient government we should  want?

It's the "public's" policies they want to change. Such as encouraging people to invest in insulation for their attics and paying their taxes on time. Not better legislation and regulation.

You have to read that phrase in context to understand they don't intend to fix the laws.


Luckily "laws" are only one part of government.
 
2013-07-30 10:07:37 PM
The same psychology techniques that work to separate consumers from their money can also be used by governments to influence larger societal behavior?

Who would have thought?

www.nndb.com

This guy. That's who.

/And don't get saucy with me, either.
 
2013-07-30 10:08:11 PM

Fjornir: "...design public policies that work better, cost less, and help people to achieve their goals..."

Isn't that the kind of efficient government we should  want?


Yeah but I don't think the people want to be force fed propaganda otherwise every piece of legislation would be called the just think of the children act.

baby steps to subliminal messaging and brain washing ......

Maybe even future Prozium supplements, sense offenders and EC-10 ratings.
 
2013-07-30 10:08:24 PM
Yeah, this seems kind of weird. And the way it is worded is even weirder
 
2013-07-30 10:08:32 PM

themindiswatching: I don't get how this is much different than ads from, say, the Ad Council.


Or the President's Council on Physical Fitness. I admit I was just a kid at the time, but I don't remember the conservative outrage when Bush 1 made an actual movie star the chairman, a pretty blatant publicity stunt, or when that movie star had the temerity to tell people to exercise more. A foreign movie star, no less!
 
2013-07-30 10:08:57 PM

AverageAmericanGuy:  Such as encouraging people to invest in insulation for their attics and paying their taxes on time.


Uhm. Ok? A small incentive towards energy efficient housing and other buildings is to the net benefit of everyone? Likewise if folks are dealing with their taxes in a timely manner then there is less need for an apparatus for dealing with late tax filings?

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2013-07-30 10:09:25 PM
So I guess this guy is collecting welfare? Nudge, nudge. Please ignore the daily free lunch time banquet and all the free towels he can carry to his towels-r-us store.
i.imgur.com
No budget. No pay. Makes Oompaloompas get money by sucking meat all day.
 
2013-07-30 10:10:12 PM

Lionel Mandrake: jehovahs witness protection: It's not hard to control minds of demoncrats. Look at who they elected.

I used to enjoy your posts.  Now they just make me feel bad for you..

*ignore*


Oh God! A "Dear John"!

Ask yourself, Mandrake: WHO CHANGED?

Was it him? Was it you?

Or did you just outgrow one another?

/So sad
 
2013-07-30 10:10:15 PM
FoxNews it just upset that the White House would be moving into their territory of manipulating the masses.

"We report, we decide for you"
 
2013-07-30 10:10:40 PM
I don't mind the concept of libertarian paternalism one bit.  If the government can use economics to shape societal behaviors rather than depending upon outright bans and criminalization, I'm all for it.  Incent people to do the right thing rather than punish them for doing the wrong thing and let's see what happens.  A great example are sin taxes - you're free to smoke, gamble, and drink to your heart's content, but price controls make it a very costly proposition to do so.  I would love to see this start to creep into the health and fitness realms next.  Maybe give people a tax break just for being in shape and having low blood pressure.
 
2013-07-30 10:14:29 PM
Soooooooooo...Just Say No was also a bad thing?
 
2013-07-30 10:14:38 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Government should be responsible for preventing people from committing wrongs. It acts as a method to take away freedoms for the greater benefit of society.

This kind of thing is useless and dumb. Although sometimes it will create something amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw like and such as.


Useless? Subtly encouraging people to eat better could greatly reduce our healthcare costs. Encouraging better energy efficiency can reduce utility costs. Etc.

As far as the government is concerned, seems like having more money in the pocketbook can only benefit the burdens on entitlements. How can Republicans not get behind that?

/subtly encouraging more people to vote couldn't hurt either
 
2013-07-30 10:15:01 PM
 Don't you dare tell ma boy he can't make fun of the freaks, queers, coloreds, jews, or nerds!! Thems my American values.
 
2013-07-30 10:15:38 PM

Shaggy_C: I don't mind the concept of libertarian paternalism one bit.  If the government can use economics to shape societal behaviors rather than depending upon outright bans and criminalization, I'm all for it.  Incent people to do the right thing rather than punish them for doing the wrong thing and let's see what happens.  A great example are sin taxes - you're free to smoke, gamble, and drink to your heart's content, but price controls make it a very costly proposition to do so.  I would love to see this start to creep into the health and fitness realms next.  Maybe give people a tax break just for being in shape and having low blood pressure.


My office gives me a nice sum for three tests they perform annually - blood sugar, blood pressure, and I think cholesterol. Another chunk of change for not smoking (or, if you do smoke, doing a company-paid-for smoking cessation class - I think it is done by phone 2x/month x 3 months). It works out pretty well. I was working with the same folks before we got bought by the new company and, in general, people have lost some weight and I know of two of the "last smokers" who did the cessation class to get the money and ended up quitting as a result.
 
2013-07-30 10:16:02 PM
I'm... *yawn* I'm outraged at this overreach of, uh... *yaaaawn* stuff. And things.
 
2013-07-30 10:18:08 PM

Kittypie070: Soooooooooo...Just Say No was also a bad thing?



Worked like a charm.
 
2013-07-30 10:20:27 PM

Amos Quito: Kittypie070: Soooooooooo...Just Say No was also a bad thing?


Worked like a charm.


Hey now. Just because you can admit that a program to influence Americans failed miserably doesn't mean that libs don't also get the chance to see their programs to influence fall flat.
 
2013-07-30 10:21:33 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Any Real Americans want to explain the degree and nature of the appropriate outrage?


Because the government has no business - none - telling people how to live their lives! Unelss it's faith-based nudging, then it's OK. And only Christian nudging. But not, you know, wink-wink nudging, that's a sin.
 
2013-07-30 10:28:21 PM

Fjornir: My office gives me a nice sum for three tests they perform annually - blood sugar, blood pressure, and I think cholesterol. Another chunk of change for not smoking (or, if you do smoke, doing a company-paid-for smoking cessation class


Just another example of the private sector being light years ahead of the government, I guess. You would think right-wingers would love the concept - you get positive results that save money at a macro level without taking away "mah freedoms" at the individual level.
 
2013-07-30 10:32:36 PM

spongeboob: So I guess that means that there are more Demoncrats than Republicans, must suck to be on the losing team.


I think that is a given--the mantra "poor turnout favors Republicans" has been getting a lot of play lately.
 
2013-07-30 10:33:34 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Amos Quito: Kittypie070: Soooooooooo...Just Say No was also a bad thing?


Worked like a charm.

Hey now. Just because you can admit that a program to influence Americans failed miserably doesn't mean that libs don't also get the chance to see their programs to influence fall flat.



g-ec1.apartmenttherapy.com

This is "Nudge".

www.totaltalknonsense.com

This is your brain on "Nudge".

Any questions?
 
2013-07-30 10:35:06 PM

Amos Quito: AverageAmericanGuy: Amos Quito: Kittypie070: Soooooooooo...Just Say No was also a bad thing?


Worked like a charm.

Hey now. Just because you can admit that a program to influence Americans failed miserably doesn't mean that libs don't also get the chance to see their programs to influence fall flat.


[g-ec1.apartmenttherapy.com image 473x540]

This is "Nudge".

[www.totaltalknonsense.com image 360x289]

This is your brain on "Nudge".

Any questions?


Can I get some home fries and bacon with that?
 
2013-07-30 10:35:50 PM
Lunch time!
 
2013-07-30 10:36:03 PM

Amos Quito: AverageAmericanGuy: Amos Quito: Kittypie070: Soooooooooo...Just Say No was also a bad thing?


Worked like a charm.

Hey now. Just because you can admit that a program to influence Americans failed miserably doesn't mean that libs don't also get the chance to see their programs to influence fall flat.


[g-ec1.apartmenttherapy.com image 473x540]

This is "Nudge".

[www.totaltalknonsense.com image 360x289]

This is your brain on "Nudge".

Any questions?


Scrambled you distended goats anus. I ordered scrambled.
 
2013-07-30 10:38:18 PM

flondrix: spongeboob: So I guess that means that there are more Demoncrats than Republicans, must suck to be on the losing team.

I think that is a given--the mantra "poor turnout favors Republicans" has been getting a lot of play lately.


Are you sure it isn't more that the smart, educated, and politically active part of the populace  favour Republicans whilst the rowdy, emotional, and uninformed mob favours the Democrat party?
 
2013-07-30 10:38:35 PM

Fjornir: "...design public policies that work better, cost less, and help people to achieve their goals..."

Isn't that the kind of efficient government we should  want?


There is, with some unfortunate truth to it, a large number of people who don't want government to be too efficient.  I might be one of them.  Do I really want cops to be completely informed about every vehicle that is driving past them, with facial recognition software that pops up the identity of each occupant, their arrest records, tax details, insurance company contact information, medical records, employment history and credit worthiness, plus a record of all financial transactions with the state?  Plus a map showing all the observations of that car in the last month past every road camera, and a three association deep crosscheck with everyone who has an outstanding warrant?  That would be "efficient".  Damn scary too.

But yeah, this doesn't evoke outrage - it sounds like a good example of using consulting.  Like figuring out how to use normal language, not the acronym studded, rapid fire short cut laden language of the career bureaucrat.
 
2013-07-30 10:41:42 PM
Manipulating people to get them to do things is easy. Dirt simple, actually.
This isn't new, but the blatant announcement to do it is.

It's been done to you already.  You don't even realize it, which is really the nefarious part.

The kids in Detroit are not doing well in school.
If you thought for even a second that 1) they need more money 2) It's the teachers fault, then they got to you. You're thinking what they want you to, not for yourself.
Your child is an idiot, a retarded gay idiot.
If you thought that was offensive, fine, it was.  If you thought it was wrong because it involved Children, or the words 'retarded' or 'gay', they got to you.
You're thinking what they want you to, not for yourself.

If you wear Nike anything, or carry an iAnything, it's because they got to you.

Your thoughts, your opinions, your perception of events and objects have been altered to conform.

Like I said, not new, but disturbing that they are now doing it openly.
 
2013-07-30 10:43:01 PM

Shaggy_C: flondrix: spongeboob: So I guess that means that there are more Demoncrats than Republicans, must suck to be on the losing team.

I think that is a given--the mantra "poor turnout favors Republicans" has been getting a lot of play lately.

Are you sure it isn't more that the smart, educated, and politically active part of the populace  favour Republicans whilst the rowdy, emotional, and uninformed mob favours the Democrat party?


The ivy-league, east coast elitists do tend to swing to the right...
 
2013-07-30 10:44:11 PM

jehovahs witness protection: It's not hard to control minds of demoncrats. Look at who they elected.


Keep that in mind next time you see video of a desperately poor Southerner who votes for a Republican who wants to take away any social safety net.

Because Jesus.
 
2013-07-30 10:46:12 PM
What the frak did you two idiots do to my poast!?

I'm sitting here staring at a gahdamn fried egg!
 
2013-07-30 10:49:47 PM
It's made up of old Jewish grandmothers pestering us to get married and take them home after dinner?

Or would that be a Nuhdze Council?
 
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