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(Uproxx)   Now there's a robot that can take blood donations. Surely this will end well   (uproxx.com ) divider line
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1142 clicks; posted to Geek » on 30 Jul 2013 at 1:11 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-07-30 04:25:45 PM  
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Duck_of_Doom: You are very, very lucky.


I know that... I've heard some horror stories over the years, and I just can't imagine how much that would suck. It's one thing to deal with the quick stab from the needle, but over and over again? No thanks. It was great the last time I was in the hospital, I actually commented the girl that came in at 4 am and drew blood because I felt almost nothing, plus she was quick. It's pretty telling when someone who doesn't have issues with veins is that grateful. I don't think phlebotomists(sp?) get enough love...
2013-07-30 04:13:17 PM  
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Duck_of_Doom: I'm curious to know what the protocol is for a blown vein, a vein that rolls, if the patient is in extreme pain, or if they can't find a vein in a normal area (arm, forearm, hand, wrist).  Do they dump the robot and go for human intervention?


I'm curious about that as well. Intranasal Fentanyl/Versed and cold-pack placement to take advantage of gate-pain control theory is what we currently use for difficult IVs that have to be started ASAP. EMLA cream is awesome, but it takes around 45 minutes to take effect.

The problem is that vascular access and draw-off is a pretty damn complex procedure, despite how outwardly simple it can look. There's as much of an art to it is there is painting a masterpiece.
2013-07-30 01:43:21 PM  
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TFA: On the other hand, human phlebotamists probably won't jab the everloving sh-t out of your elbow if they malfunction (we would hope

There's a laugh, that's exactly what a malfunctioning human behind a needle does.


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While I was in the Army I took a 'Combat Lifesaver Course', basically a step up from basic Army first aid training which included IV sticking.  We practiced on dummies, then on each other.  I have good easy to find veins so I was handed off to the less steady handed folk in the class to use.

One Soldier took four attempts on one arm to get a successful stick (moving up the vein with each poke).  When he did finally get it in successfully he forgot to push down on it, so we had a great display of what bleeding directly from a vein out an IV looks like as my blood shot out over the table.

I was very, very sore and bruised after that week.
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A rather cross eyed man working at a blood donation center once failed to find a vein in my arm somehow and tried the 'root around until you get it' technique.  Hurt like a mother farker.  He wanted to go to the back of my hand next.  Someone else took over and stuck my other arm first time no problem.
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2013-07-30 01:40:24 PM  
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I can see it working fine on the horizontal axes, but I'm wondering how they get depth information from a vertically-mounted camera. Rather important for people (as above) with deep veins.

Between being a regular blood donor and volunteering for a lot of medical studies I have been stuck more than most, and if they can get a 90% rate, that'd probably better than my experience. I'd try it.
 
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