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2013-07-30 11:43:19 AM
5 WordStar

I haven't used that since...yesterday. It still does things better than any other program.
 
2013-07-30 11:50:50 AM
This list sucks without Print Shop Deluxe.
 
2013-07-30 11:51:13 AM
You forgot the semi-colon.
 
2013-07-30 11:51:29 AM
I was with them up until Minecraft.  I'd offer up instead - WinAmp.  The MP3 and digital music revolution has completely changed the course of a major industry, and WinAmp was the tool that allowed most people to hear their first MP3 files.
 
2013-07-30 11:57:28 AM
i had no idea that hypercard was that influential.
 
2013-07-30 12:04:49 PM
VM/370
SideKick
QEMM/DesqView
Carbon Copy
Norton Utilities
Kermit
 
2013-07-30 12:07:55 PM
No Dave?

4.bp.blogspot.com

//go through the door
 
2013-07-30 12:12:29 PM
Lotus Notes is friggin awesome.
 
2013-07-30 12:26:18 PM
Surprised they didn't include Pong. That's the first digital game that caught on among the masses. Games now make up a huge portion of the software market.
 
2013-07-30 12:54:58 PM
HyperCard was awesome! I was in high school and it was my first experience with "visual" programming. It just made sense to me. I spent hours making presentations and games and stories that I'd share with my other Mac friends in the computer lab.

Lotus Notes. Well, I have Lotus Notes open on my other monitor here at work right now. I've gotten used to it over the past six years of working for the government. We're gearing up for a move to Outlook within the year. Everyone here is excited for Outlook, but I think they'll probably miss some things about Notes when it's gone.
 
2013-07-30 12:56:32 PM
Minecraft does not belong on this list.
 
2013-07-30 01:15:28 PM
In 1980, when I was 6 years old, my father brought home an Atari 400/800.  He sat me down in front of it and put a book on the desk, An Introduction to the Basic Programming Language.  "Learn this," he said, "and you'll never have to dig a ditch in your life."

//worked out okay
/still ended up digging a ditch or two
 
2013-07-30 01:17:09 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: VM/370
SideKick
QEMM/DesqView
Carbon Copy
Norton Utilities
Kermit


Quarterdeck was baller.  So was x-tree gold and qmodem pro.
 
2013-07-30 01:29:10 PM
What no Stevie Ray Vaughn?

THIS LIST IS BULLSHIATE!

(Wow, had to dust that one off after pulling it from storage.)
 
2013-07-30 01:32:19 PM
Whar ProcommPlus Whar

/zmodem protocol ftw
 
2013-07-30 01:36:37 PM
Minecraft?

-_- what is this?

/i don't even
 
2013-07-30 02:09:47 PM

DanZero: Whar ProcommPlus Whar

/zmodem protocol ftw


That, biatches...

And where the fark is Fast Hack'em?!
 
2013-07-30 02:13:21 PM
www.atarimania.com
 
2013-07-30 02:19:25 PM

DanZero: Whar ProcommPlus Whar

/zmodem protocol ftw


Uses this almost daily at work.
 
2013-07-30 02:20:51 PM
 
2013-07-30 02:46:24 PM
No Logo? Dunno about the rest of y'all, but that was my first experience with command-based programming. That little turtle made me who I am today.

// not named for a Renaissance painter/sculptor
 
2013-07-30 02:54:20 PM
Would've liked to have seen Wizardry on that list, but that's personal bias talking, not objective history.
 
2013-07-30 02:56:32 PM

R.A.Danny: Lotus Notes is friggin awesome.


That anyone could possibly believe that makes my head want to explode.
 
2013-07-30 03:00:39 PM
www.callapple.org
beagle.applearchives.com

Greatest Software Company EVAR
 
2013-07-30 03:01:49 PM

FlashHarry: i had no idea that hypercard was that influential.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myst
The original Macintosh version of Myst was constructed in HyperCard. Each Age was a unique HyperCard stack. Navigation was handled by the internal button system and HyperTalk scripts, with image and QuickTime movie display passed off to various plugins; essentially, Myst functions as a series of separate multimedia slides linked together by commands.
 
2013-07-30 03:02:09 PM
Is print "hello, world"; on the list?

/dnrtfa
 
2013-07-30 03:02:37 PM

meanmutton: R.A.Danny: Lotus Notes is friggin awesome.

That anyone could possibly believe that makes my head want to explode.


It's actually not that bad, people just think it is an email program and don't use 1/10th of what it can do.

It isn't a very good email program.
 
2013-07-30 03:05:52 PM
WordPerfect
Quatrro Pro
MSDOS 6.22
Netscape Navigator
 
2013-07-30 03:19:49 PM
and American's reliance on SABRE is the reason for the scheduling debacle after being acquired by United.

geez, SABRE was around forever.
 
2013-07-30 03:23:25 PM
Still River shell.
 
2013-07-30 03:26:51 PM
I did an awful lot of editing in Wordstar.  I'm surprised Qmodem/Telix/Telemate weren't on the list.  Those programs opened up a whole new world of communication.  They could have even added something like Wildcat BBS..

//Fark, I'm old...
 
2013-07-30 03:28:50 PM
List spends waaay too much time on consumer and game programs.  Yes, they had an impact, but they are the "safe" choices people have heard about.  There are far better.

It utterly fails without mention of the programs that ran on the Colossus.  (I'm not sure they had names- they were all external on punched paper tape)  Adventure influential?  Colossus had a big part in winning WWII.  Put that in your GO EAST command and smoke it.

No mentions of the original FORTRAN compiler?  Or C?  Or Smalltalk?  Or BASIC?

Next up: Stuxnet.  Scarily sophisticated computer virus/worm that's still having a major impact in foreign policy

In terms of news impact, how about the programs that ran the Apollo moon missions?

If you want game like programs, trySIMNET?  I trained on this back in Armor school at Ft. Knox- full sized tank interior mockups, each with a four man crew, fighting networked battalion-sized battles against other tanks.  Later it added in helicopters and artillery, with users from Ft. Rucker and Ft. Sill joining in

~300 vehicles playing at the same time
Fully 3-d world
In *1987*
 
2013-07-30 03:32:29 PM
No LSL????

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-30 03:55:12 PM
This article is awesome trolling.
/+1
 
2013-07-30 03:58:29 PM
List fails without Facebook Home
 
2013-07-30 03:59:35 PM
I agree with the title, BASIC should be on the list. It was the first programming language that was home based,

Someone mentioned Winamp for the digital media. I would like to add on Napster as the first real peer-to-peer file-sharing program.
 
2013-07-30 04:00:20 PM
I actually agree with most of the article, but would substitute Pagemaker for Minecraft.
 
2013-07-30 04:01:03 PM

pute kisses like a man: and American's reliance on SABRE is the reason for the scheduling debacle after being acquired by United.

geez, SABRE was around forever.


SABRE is still being used by AA ( although they are in the process of moving to NextGenSABRE).

AA and USAir are in the process of merging.

United bought Continental, not AA. United used the Apollo (now called TravelPort) res system but moved to Continental's SHARES res system.
 
2013-07-30 04:07:25 PM

metallion: I did an awful lot of editing in Wordstar.  I'm surprised Qmodem/Telix/Telemate weren't on the list.  Those programs opened up a whole new world of communication.  They could have even added something like Wildcat BBS..

//Fark, I'm old...


Trumpet Winsock allowed millions of people running Windows 95 to get on the Internet for the very first time.
 
2013-07-30 04:07:34 PM
I wonder how much money solitaire on WFW and Win95 has cost employers in lost productivity.
 
2013-07-30 04:08:12 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I was with them up until Minecraft.  I'd offer up instead - WinAmp.  The MP3 and digital music revolution has completely changed the course of a major industry, and WinAmp was the tool that allowed most people to hear their first MP3 files.


I'd agree except I think iTunes has been more influential with the general population.
 
2013-07-30 04:11:42 PM

DjangoStonereaver: I actually agree with most of the article, but would substitute Pagemaker for Minecraft.


This.  Before Pagemaker typsetting and layout was a messy, expensive process.  The idea of click and drag WYSIWYG typesetting revolutionized publishing.  Not perhaps as much as the printing press itself, but it made desktop publishing practical.

I remember when it was Aldus PageMaker.

Now I feel old.
 
2013-07-30 04:12:41 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I was with them up until Minecraft.  I'd offer up instead - WinAmp.  The MP3 and digital music revolution has completely changed the course of a major industry, and WinAmp was the tool that allowed most people to hear their first MP3 files.


This.
 
2013-07-30 04:17:52 PM

R.A.Danny: meanmutton: R.A.Danny: Lotus Notes is friggin awesome.

That anyone could possibly believe that makes my head want to explode.

It's actually not that bad, people just think it is an email program and don't use 1/10th of what it can do.

It isn't a very good email program.


So true.  E-mail was just a packaged version of cc:Mail.  But everything else it did was pretty far ahead of its time.  One company i worked at was using it as a wiki, before it was called a wiki.  Forums, knowledge base, CRM type stuff.  Very flexible.  There was a time when Notes developers could ask any price and get work.
 
2013-07-30 04:19:09 PM

DjangoStonereaver: I actually agree with most of the article, but would substitute Pagemaker for Minecraft.


No one remembers Pagemaker or Ventura Publisher.
 
2013-07-30 04:31:17 PM
images.videolan.org
/influences my pants more than any other software program
 
2013-07-30 04:31:50 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: List fails without Facebook Home


Or Microsoft BOB.
 
2013-07-30 04:37:49 PM
This is definitely the worst list ever.
 
2013-07-30 04:37:59 PM
Eddie Adams from Torrance:
QEMM/DesqView

No lie, I just finished a conversion for a client that was running Q&A (database/WP package) with DESQview and QEMM under MS-DOS 6.22 up until 2 months ago.  Q&A was networked across multiple workstations to a server running Novell Netware 3.11.  He's now running a package called Sesame (descended from Q&A), with Win7 workstations and server.

I built a good deal of that Q&A system's programming over the years, and as much as it took a lot of creativity to do stuff that modern software allows you to do without thinking, we never found something we couldn't do.  Dead-tree document scanning and retrieval, using softfonts to get custom imaging on printed documentation, dispatching service techs with messaging, driving telemarketing systems...

This is not a repeat from 1986.
 
2013-07-30 04:45:36 PM
Linux kernel
 
2013-07-30 04:51:50 PM

MBP2112: Eddie Adams from Torrance:
QEMM/DesqView

No lie, I just finished a conversion for a client that was running Q&A (database/WP package) with DESQview and QEMM under MS-DOS 6.22 up until 2 months ago.  Q&A was networked across multiple workstations to a server running Novell Netware 3.11.  He's now running a package called Sesame (descended from Q&A), with Win7 workstations and server.

I built a good deal of that Q&A system's programming over the years, and as much as it took a lot of creativity to do stuff that modern software allows you to do without thinking, we never found something we couldn't do.  Dead-tree document scanning and retrieval, using softfonts to get custom imaging on printed documentation, dispatching service techs with messaging, driving telemarketing systems...

This is not a repeat from 1986.


I remember editing pages of keystroke macros for Q&A.  (no whitespace, just 80 columns of letters and numbers, line after line).  Was always hilarious to have an error condition come up and have Q&A fire the rest of the pages of keystrokes at the screen until 'something' happened.  Always had to backup 3 or 4 times a day.  20 users and a Novell 3.11 server with 4 meg of ram on 10 base 2.
 
2013-07-30 04:51:53 PM

mcreadyblue: pute kisses like a man: and American's reliance on SABRE is the reason for the scheduling debacle after being acquired by United.

geez, SABRE was around forever.

SABRE is still being used by AA ( although they are in the process of moving to NextGenSABRE).

AA and USAir are in the process of merging.

United bought Continental, not AA. United used the Apollo (now called TravelPort) res system but moved to Continental's SHARES res system.


whoops, well excuse me for speaking out of my ass and not knowing what i'm talking about.  merger/acquisition... usair/united.  words... just words.
 
2013-07-30 05:04:12 PM
Want some rye?
 
2013-07-30 05:06:44 PM
Open Source Software is strangley absent from the list.

but don't worry, that list will look very different in 10 years or so.....
 
2013-07-30 05:07:44 PM

Trocadero: [images.videolan.org image 300x300]
/influences my pants more than any other software program



and that is just the beginning.  the list of Open Source Software is mind boggling.
 
2013-07-30 05:08:54 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel



THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.
 
2013-07-30 05:10:37 PM

Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.


Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?

Unix sure, Linux no way.
 
2013-07-30 05:10:39 PM
 
2013-07-30 05:12:07 PM
vi

/*runs*
 
2013-07-30 05:12:43 PM

Mr. Eugenides: Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.

Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?

Unix sure, Linux no way.


sure Unix was first, but Linux is taking its place.
 
2013-07-30 05:23:06 PM
This list became useless with Minecraft.

Reminds me of MTV's "Top 100 Music Videos of All Time" circa 1988 or 1989.  Most made sense, but number 1 was the latest Bon Jovi number 1 -- which was, like most Bon Jovi videos, just their concert performance montages.

Completely shot down the entire concept for me by being so flagrantly obvious.
 
2013-07-30 05:29:02 PM

Linux_Yes: sure Unix was first, but Linux is taking its place.


Tell that to where I work... we're in the process of migrating from AIX 5.3 to 7.1 on 20 systems.

Now we also do have over 100 RHEL systems, but that's just ancillary systems.
 
2013-07-30 05:29:12 PM

Linux_Yes: Mr. Eugenides: Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.

Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?

Unix sure, Linux no way.

sure Unix was first, but Linux is taking its place.



And Linux was the first to essentially be easy enough to use for an only *somewhat* savvy person.
 
2013-07-30 05:30:58 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: VM/370
SideKick
QEMM/DesqView
Carbon Copy
Norton Utilities
Kermit


ZMODEM (via DSZ)

/ran a GAP BBS in the 80s/90s
 
2013-07-30 05:35:57 PM

Mr. Eugenides: Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.

Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?


Linux was independently written starting from scratch.  It used Unix-like commands and syntax, but was not a modification or offshoot of Unix code.


Mr. Eugenides: Unix sure, Linux no way.


Yes, Linux was written to be Unix-like, and Unix came before.  But Linux has since run on many more machines all over the world.  Unix was the arcane realm of scientists who had access to university or corporate mainframes.  Linux brought it home to a billion people running pet projects at home, and let them roll thier own OS.  Not to mention that Linux is still growing and becoming ever more pervasive, running on things you probably don't even realize - like your current cell phone.   I'm not saying Unix wasn't/isn't important. It was. But Linux has been far FAR more influential.
 
2013-07-30 05:37:54 PM

downstairs: Linux_Yes: Mr. Eugenides: Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.

Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?

Unix sure, Linux no way.

sure Unix was first, but Linux is taking its place.


And Linux was the first to essentially be easy enough to use for an only *somewhat* savvy person.


My freshman year in college the most convenient computer lab to me was about half X-Windows dumb terminals running off of a Solaris machine somewhere, 25% Windows PCs and 25% Macs.  Over the next several years more Macs and Windows machines replaced most of the X-Windows terminals.

Given that most everyone had a Mac or PC in their dorm room it made sense - they could work with their own files much easier on a machine running the same OS and software, but for just stopping in to check e-mail (pre-smartphone days) I loved the X-terminals because there was never a line for any of them unlike the Macs and Windows boxes.

The Computer Science department used the Solaris systems as the primary platform for the early level classes, but there was a dedicated lab in the building and you could just telnet in from your dorm to work from there.
 
2013-07-30 05:38:44 PM
Minecraft isn't even one of the 10 most influential games of all time.
 
2013-07-30 05:38:57 PM

DrunkWithImpotence: This. Before Pagemaker typsetting and layout was a messy, expensive process. The idea of click and drag WYSIWYG typesetting revolutionized publishing. Not perhaps as much as the printing press itself, but it made desktop publishing practical.

I remember when it was Aldus PageMaker.

Now I feel old.


I'm glad Pagemaker is a distant, distant memory....not being able to rotate elements, the random crashes, the line tool that had 2 or 3 points worth of wiggle at any given time, etc. The text edit mode was pretty sweet for formatting entire books in about 2 hours, though.

Although, I'm also glad that Quark is a distant, distant memory at this point.
 
2013-07-30 05:41:05 PM

Mr. Eugenides: Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.

Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?


^ THIS ^ Many people's work would be soul destroying without it.
 
2013-07-30 05:41:20 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Mr. Eugenides: Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.

Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?

Linux was independently written starting from scratch.  It used Unix-like commands and syntax, but was not a modification or offshoot of Unix code.


Mr. Eugenides: Unix sure, Linux no way.

Yes, Linux was written to be Unix-like, and Unix came before.  But Linux has since run on many more machines all over the world.  Unix was the arcane realm of scientists who had access to university or corporate mainframes.  Linux brought it home to a billion people running pet projects at home, and let them roll thier own OS.  Not to mention that Linux is still growing and becoming ever more pervasive, running on things you probably don't even realize - like your current cell phone.   I'm not saying Unix wasn't/isn't important. It was. But Linux has been far FAR more influential.


By the logic of the Linux-heads Excel and Word should be on the list instead of VisiCalc and WordStar.
 
2013-07-30 05:42:05 PM

TuteTibiImperes: downstairs: Linux_Yes: Mr. Eugenides: Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.

Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?

Unix sure, Linux no way.

sure Unix was first, but Linux is taking its place.


And Linux was the first to essentially be easy enough to use for an only *somewhat* savvy person.

My freshman year in college the most convenient computer lab to me was about half X-Windows dumb terminals running off of a Solaris machine somewhere, 25% Windows PCs and 25% Macs.  Over the next several years more Macs and Windows machines replaced most of the X-Windows terminals.

Given that most everyone had a Mac or PC in their dorm room it made sense - they could work with their own files much easier on a machine running the same OS and software, but for just stopping in to check e-mail (pre-smartphone days) I loved the X-terminals because there was never a line for any of them unlike the Macs and Windows boxes.

The Computer Science department used the Solaris systems as the primary platform for the early level classes, but there was a dedicated lab in the building and you could just telnet in from your dorm to work from there.


You sound old.
 
2013-07-30 05:43:24 PM

wiredroach: DrunkWithImpotence: This. Before Pagemaker typsetting and layout was a messy, expensive process. The idea of click and drag WYSIWYG typesetting revolutionized publishing. Not perhaps as much as the printing press itself, but it made desktop publishing practical.

I remember when it was Aldus PageMaker.

Now I feel old.

I'm glad Pagemaker is a distant, distant memory....not being able to rotate elements, the random crashes, the line tool that had 2 or 3 points worth of wiggle at any given time, etc. The text edit mode was pretty sweet for formatting entire books in about 2 hours, though.

Although, I'm also glad that Quark is a distant, distant memory at this point.


I liked Pagemaker.  I don't remember it being any more crash-prone than other large applications of the day, and for some reason I seem to remember being able to rotate elements, though maybe that wasn't available on earlier versions.

What's the industry standard now?  I haven't messed with it since school-newspaper days (where we'd save the file to a zip disk and physically drive it to the printer to give you an idea of the time frame).
 
2013-07-30 05:49:44 PM

wiredroach: Although, I'm also glad that Quark is a distant, distant memory at this point.


Fark no. The Quark interface and workflow was so much better for productivity and PROPER POSTSCRIPT until InDesign hit probably CS3 or CS4. I mean, it's a product put out by the company who invented PostScript and yet I get RIP errors? Bullshiat.

Granted, Quark was a shiatty company to work with when they were on top, but InDesign blew goats until Quark managed to shoot themselves in the foot, shin, knee and femoral artery. The only reason Adobe won that particular battle is because Quark let them.
 
2013-07-30 06:02:46 PM
img823.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-30 06:19:23 PM

Linux_Yes: Mr. Eugenides: Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.

Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?

Unix sure, Linux no way.

sure Unix was first, but Linux is taking its place.


That's because it's a free copy. Torvalds didn't think the thing up from scratch.

Which brings me to my next point: replace Minecraft with InfiniMiner.
 
2013-07-30 06:24:14 PM

metallion: I did an awful lot of editing in Wordstar.  I'm surprised Qmodem/Telix/Telemate weren't on the list.  Those programs opened up a whole new world of communication.  They could have even added something like Wildcat BBS..

//Fark, I'm old...


Come on, WWIV FTW.

\Get off my 31MB hard disk.
 
2013-07-30 06:30:50 PM
I really miss HyperCard.  I have very fond memories of working with it as a young kid exploring the world of computers.
 
2013-07-30 06:34:39 PM
I kind of miss HyperCard. Even though Flash is a zillion times as powerful, it's just not as streamlined of an application. (Also, HyperTalk > ActionScript. Sorry, you know it's true.)
 
2013-07-30 06:41:49 PM
No love for Scripsit or ElectricPencil?
 
2013-07-30 06:52:23 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Unix was the arcane realm of scientists who had access to university or corporate mainframes the budget needed to pay everything


It used to be very expensive to run UNIX in the old days.  The license to get a copy of the OS wasn't cheap, and you needed hardware that didn't become common on the desktop till the early 1990s.

BSD was free, but for a number of years was nothing more than a set of patches against the original UNIX code.  When BSD attempted to become a self-standing OS, AT&T sued them (USL v. BSDi, 1993).  Linus said he never would have created the Linux kernel if the lawsuit had never happened.

Coherent was a commercial UNIX-like OS for desktop machines, but just couldn't compete with DOS on price in the PC market.  Commodore was going to use it for its new line of 16-bit Z8000 computers, but that was ditched when they bought Amiga.

MINIX had a relatively low fee, but you can't compete with free.  That's how Linux, which was loosely derived from MINIX, went on to conquer the market.
 
2013-07-30 06:53:26 PM

theorellior: wiredroach: Although, I'm also glad that Quark is a distant, distant memory at this point.

Fark no. The Quark interface and workflow was so much better for productivity and PROPER POSTSCRIPT until InDesign hit probably CS3 or CS4. I mean, it's a product put out by the company who invented PostScript and yet I get RIP errors? Bullshiat.

Granted, Quark was a shiatty company to work with when they were on top, but InDesign blew goats until Quark managed to shoot themselves in the foot, shin, knee and femoral artery. The only reason Adobe won that particular battle is because Quark let them.


Pretty much this. Xpress was the industry standard, and Quark just sat back and let InDesign blow right by and send them into near-oblivion. The only place I see it anymore is at print shops too cheap to upgrade.
 
kth
2013-07-30 07:16:56 PM

theorellior: wiredroach: Although, I'm also glad that Quark is a distant, distant memory at this point.

Fark no. The Quark interface and workflow was so much better for productivity and PROPER POSTSCRIPT until InDesign hit probably CS3 or CS4. I mean, it's a product put out by the company who invented PostScript and yet I get RIP errors? Bullshiat.

Granted, Quark was a shiatty company to work with when they were on top, but InDesign blew goats until Quark managed to shoot themselves in the foot, shin, knee and femoral artery. The only reason Adobe won that particular battle is because Quark let them.


I write training in Quark. It is easily the most annoying thing about my job. And my job has many annoying aspects.

They keep saying that we're moving to InDesign, but then decide that we don't have time to train. I guarantee the amount of time we need to train our writers in InDesign is less than the amount of time that I have to spend being the "Quark Whisperer" on our team, even if you don't count the time that the rest of the writers spend aching to throw their computer out the window before asking me to help.

/off to teach a virtual class that couldn't possibly be scheduled during the work day, it HAD to be in the evening, much to the inconvenience of both instructors and students.
//quark sucks.
 
2013-07-30 07:40:10 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Mr. Eugenides: Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.

Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?

Linux was independently written starting from scratch.  It used Unix-like commands and syntax, but was not a modification or offshoot of Unix code.


Mr. Eugenides: Unix sure, Linux no way.

Yes, Linux was written to be Unix-like, and Unix came before.  But Linux has since run on many more machines all over the world.  Unix was the arcane realm of scientists who had access to university or corporate mainframes.  Linux brought it home to a billion people running pet projects at home, and let them roll thier own OS.  Not to mention that Linux is still growing and becoming ever more pervasive, running on things you probably don't even realize - like your current cell phone.   I'm not saying Unix wasn't/isn't important. It was. But Linux has been far FAR more influential.


The correct answer is 386BSD. Lots of what Linux does was taken from 386BSD and FreeBSD. See CFS as exhibit A.
 
2013-07-30 08:04:13 PM
img84.imageshack.us
 
2013-07-30 08:13:44 PM
Mosaic is merely "transitional?"

The first graphic browser?

It was transitional to other graphic browsers?

Not only was the Netscape browser built on Mosaic code, Microsoft bought the commercial version, called Spyglass, to rename it to Internet Explorer.

At that time Microsoft wasn't too concerned with open source code "polluting" its codebase as they later warned customers.
The same when BSD UNIX provided Microsoft with a TCP/IP stack for Windows.
 
2013-07-30 08:19:21 PM
See not sure. I have a few out there one that should be included. Oh and all games
I Robot. First use of Polygons in a game. Simulating depth
14 tomcat. Atari Never really released. First networked arcade games
Dragons Lair. First hybrid game with computer graphics overlapping video being played via laser disk
Star wars (Atari Arcade) First use of "digitized" audio
Dont remember the name but the rock band Journey game. First use of "digitized" photos
 
2013-07-30 08:19:51 PM

Dr Dreidel: No Logo? Dunno about the rest of y'all, but that was my first experience with command-based programming. That little turtle made me who I am today.

// not named for a Renaissance painter/sculptor


Thats what i thought the headline was referring to.
 
2013-07-30 08:23:55 PM
Oh and Pong was hard wired into the board. Not loaded into rom. So technically its not software.
 
2013-07-30 08:34:33 PM
Zork or Rogue are far more influential than Minecraft.
 
2013-07-30 08:39:50 PM

netringer: Not only was the Netscape browser built on Mosaic code, Microsoft bought the commercial version, called Spyglass, to rename it to Internet Explorer.

At that time Microsoft wasn't too concerned with open source code "polluting" its codebase as they later warned customers.
The same when BSD UNIX provided Microsoft with a TCP/IP stack for Windows.


Mosaic wasn't open source. Also, wasn't Microsoft's claim about open source specific to "share and share alike" licenses like GPL and CC? I don't recall them railing against BSD/MIT style licenses.
 
2013-07-30 08:41:25 PM
Ya the Mindcraft thing is dumb. It usually shows that this article was written or edited by someone young. If you where going to include something like that Zork Rogue maybe Sim city. Or Oregan Trail
 
2013-07-30 08:46:42 PM

kombi: Oh and Pong was hard wired into the board. Not loaded into rom. So technically its not software.


I was thinking more along the lines of the Pong that appeared in arcade games and console cartridges. It's the oldest mass-produced digital game I can think of, the grand-daddy of digital games, though I'm sure there were plenty of other games that existed only in a lab.
 
2013-07-30 08:51:10 PM
Netware v3.1
 
2013-07-30 08:51:38 PM

TuteTibiImperes: downstairs: Linux_Yes: Mr. Eugenides: Linux_Yes: ThrobblefootSpectre: Linux kernel


THE single most important piece of software ever devised.  and this will become much more clear to the nay sayers in 10 or 20 years.

Copy/paste is the most important software ever devised?

Unix sure, Linux no way.

sure Unix was first, but Linux is taking its place.


And Linux was the first to essentially be easy enough to use for an only *somewhat* savvy person.

My freshman year in college the most convenient computer lab to me was about half X-Windows dumb terminals running off of a Solaris machine somewhere, 25% Windows PCs and 25% Macs.  Over the next several years more Macs and Windows machines replaced most of the X-Windows terminals.

Given that most everyone had a Mac or PC in their dorm room it made sense - they could work with their own files much easier on a machine running the same OS and software, but for just stopping in to check e-mail (pre-smartphone days) I loved the X-terminals because there was never a line for any of them unlike the Macs and Windows boxes.

The Computer Science department used the Solaris systems as the primary platform for the early level classes, but there was a dedicated lab in the building and you could just telnet in from your dorm to work from there.


University of Louisiana- Lafayette (don't laugh, they have a top rate computer science department) was still running SunSPARC in the 90s when I was there in the main lab. Lots of little Mac labs spread around campus. I remember the first time I was able to remote connect from my off-campus housing on a shiatty 786k line. I thought I was a god.
 
2013-07-30 08:53:21 PM

R.A.Danny: Lotus Notes is friggin awesome.


Done here. So secure, even the Head Idiot who Sleeps in the Whitehouse has a blackberry on it. You can have LookOut for your personal client, I care not.  We'll front your email to whatever email client you want.  For security, stability and scalability, IBM has it, and always has had it. An un-crackable schema.  Period. MS is a mishmash mess of noise and crap that gives you cancer if you're a Sys admin who has to juggle certs and cross .NET crap. Learn, the Notes/Domino schema has been the singular most successful/secure backbone in the last 30 years. If it's good enough for the US Navy, it's good enough for me.

/Domino sysadmin 22 years.
//slashies
 
2013-07-30 08:53:31 PM
No Global Thermonuclear War?
 
2013-07-30 09:19:14 PM
Photoshop, Mosiac and Lotus Notes are no-brainers.  VisiCalc is a solid choice.  The rest of the list leaves something to be desired.

No Napster?  It catapulted file sharing on the internet.

No Doom?  There's a billion dollar industry built around first-person video games.

Someone mentioned PrintShopDeluxe - very influential.
 
2013-07-30 09:23:50 PM

theorellior: Fark no. The Quark interface and workflow was so much better for productivity and PROPER POSTSCRIPT until InDesign hit probably CS3 or CS4. I mean, it's a product put out by the company who invented PostScript and yet I get RIP errors? Bullshiat.


LeatherPenguin: Pretty much this. Xpress was the industry standard, and Quark just sat back and let InDesign blow right by and send them into near-oblivion. The only place I see it anymore is at print shops too cheap to upgrade.


kth: I write training in Quark. It is easily the most annoying thing about my job. And my job has many annoying aspects.


Quark as a program was great...nice feature set, solid performance, cool space alien Easter egg, something like a 12 meg install well into the mid-2000s? Yes, please.

Quark as a company? F*ck, no. Onerous copy-protection schemes and legendary disregard for periodic updates and innovation. They deserved to die.

I taught a few college level-desktop publishing classes circa 1999, and they made me use Pagemaker instead of Quark because it's all they had. And it was the PC version. I felt bad taking a paycheck for that job because I might as well have been teaching audio engineers how to master for 8-track. But that's how I feel about Quark now that InDesign is the standard.
 
2013-07-30 09:24:08 PM
Oh, and Lemonade Stand.  All resource management games owe a little bit to Lemonade Stand.

cdn.toucharcade.com
 
2013-07-30 09:57:17 PM

Tax Boy: Company EV


The little programs they included in their ads which you could type in and run gave me my first taste of computer programming.

Also:
www.nibblemagazine.com

(one of the) Best computer magazine EVAR.
 
2013-07-30 10:05:49 PM
Minecraft over Netscape? The program that single-handedly made Microsoft a "monopoly" due to them including I.E. with windows to compete?
 
2013-07-30 10:23:47 PM
lukket.dk

/Oblig
 
2013-07-30 10:44:05 PM

neilbradley: The correct answer is 386BSD. Lots of what Linux does was taken from 386BSD and FreeBSD. See CFS as exhibit A.


*disbelieving eyeblink*

If FreeBSD (or Unix) was running on 96% of all the fastest computers in the world (cray, Ibm, china etc), the computers on the International Space Station, adopted by most major governments in the world, running the LHC at CERN  looking for the Higgs boson, controlling the world's stock exchanges (New York stock the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and London Stock Exchange), and 64% of all cell phones in the world, then I might agree with you.  But it isn't.  Linux is.

I sincerely don't see how there's any room for plausible argument here.  Neither FreeBSD nor Unix is carried around in their pocket by 4 billion people across the globe daily.  Which is several times more than the total number of desktop PC's in the world running anything.  (And a market share Microsoft would literally subvert major governments for.)  Linux kernel is.

In the words of Bill Gates, when he still worked for Microsoft - "Our most potent Operating System competitor is Linux and the phenomena around Open Source and free software. The same phenomena fuels competitors to all of our products. The ease of picking up Linux to learn it or to modify some piece of it is very attractive. The academic community, start up companies, foreign governments and many other constituencies are putting their best work into Linux"

Note that he didn't seem too worried about FreeBSD or Unix.
 
2013-07-30 11:09:06 PM
dBASE - the first popular database program.

Acrobat - print static reports into files...download, upload and viewable on a browser.  (and search-able too)
 
2013-07-30 11:09:33 PM
Minecraft? Farking Minecraft?

DIAF Slate. You are terrible.
 
2013-07-30 11:13:04 PM

pute kisses like a man: mcreadyblue: pute kisses like a man: and American's reliance on SABRE is the reason for the scheduling debacle after being acquired by United.

geez, SABRE was around forever.

SABRE is still being used by AA ( although they are in the process of moving to NextGenSABRE).

AA and USAir are in the process of merging.

United bought Continental, not AA. United used the Apollo (now called TravelPort) res system but moved to Continental's SHARES res system.

whoops, well excuse me for speaking out of my ass and not knowing what i'm talking about.  merger/acquisition... usair/united.  words... just words.


QANTAS also runs a cloned version of SABRE, although they too are switching to another Rez system (Amadeus I think).

Southwest Airlines uses the old Braniff COWBOY Rez system (now called SAAS) that is almost as old as SABRE and not nearly as functional(can't handle international flights).

Ironically, both SAAS and SABRE are hosted in the same data center in Tulsa.
 
2013-07-30 11:16:28 PM

SunsetLament: Photoshop, Mosiac and Lotus Notes are no-brainers.  VisiCalc is a solid choice.  The rest of the list leaves something to be desired.

No Napster?  It catapulted file sharing on the internet.

No Doom?  There's a billion dollar industry built around first-person video games.

Someone mentioned PrintShopDeluxe - very influential.


Napster created the entire MP3 market. Who knew people would want to listen to inferior quality music? The music industry was incredibly stupid for not monetizing this and allowing Apple to dominate.
 
2013-07-30 11:22:35 PM
Hangman

/GOTO GET OFF MY LAWN
 
2013-07-30 11:25:31 PM

HempHead: pute kisses like a man: mcreadyblue: pute kisses like a man: and American's reliance on SABRE is the reason for the scheduling debacle after being acquired by United.

geez, SABRE was around forever.

SABRE is still being used by AA ( although they are in the process of moving to NextGenSABRE).

AA and USAir are in the process of merging.

United bought Continental, not AA. United used the Apollo (now called TravelPort) res system but moved to Continental's SHARES res system.

whoops, well excuse me for speaking out of my ass and not knowing what i'm talking about.  merger/acquisition... usair/united.  words... just words.

QANTAS also runs a cloned version of SABRE, although they too are switching to another Rez system (Amadeus I think).

Southwest Airlines uses the old Braniff COWBOY Rez system (now called SAAS) that is almost as old as SABRE and not nearly as functional(can't handle international flights).

Ironically, both SAAS and SABRE are hosted in the same data center in Tulsa.


My mom was a travel agent in the 70s-90s -- now that the internet killed that employment base the number of users affected by large system migrations is reduced to mostly just airline employees.
 
2013-07-30 11:25:34 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: neilbradley: The correct answer is 386BSD. Lots of what Linux does was taken from 386BSD and FreeBSD. See CFS as exhibit A.

*disbelieving eyeblink*

If FreeBSD (or Unix) was running on 96% of all the fastest computers in the world (cray, Ibm, china etc), the computers on the International Space Station, adopted by most major governments in the world, running the LHC at CERN  looking for the Higgs boson, controlling the world's stock exchanges (New York stock the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and London Stock Exchange), and 64% of all cell phones in the world, then I might agree with you.  But it isn't.  Linux is.

I sincerely don't see how there's any room for plausible argument here.  Neither FreeBSD nor Unix is carried around in their pocket by 4 billion people across the globe daily.  Which is several times more than the total number of desktop PC's in the world running anything.  (And a market share Microsoft would literally subvert major governments for.)  Linux kernel is.

In the words of Bill Gates, when he still worked for Microsoft - "Our most potent Operating System competitor is Linux and the phenomena around Open Source and free software. The same phenomena fuels competitors to all of our products. The ease of picking up Linux to learn it or to modify some piece of it is very attractive. The academic community, start up companies, foreign governments and many other constituencies are putting their best work into Linux"

Note that he didn't seem too worried about FreeBSD or Unix.


FreeBSD is the only OS I have ever PAID for(bought the CD's)... TWICE
 
2013-07-30 11:27:58 PM
Also, why government regulation is needed:

AA and UA gaming their res systems to shut out competetors
 
2013-07-30 11:39:06 PM
Second on Rouge49's dBASE.

If I'd made that list, it would have included Elite (the space trading game - ported to just about every platform in the early 80s), Diversi-Dial (the first multi-user chat system accessible to regular people), and maybe Sabotage (turret/parachuter game).
 
kth
2013-07-30 11:40:09 PM

rogue49: dBASE - the first popular database program.

Acrobat - print static reports into files...download, upload and viewable on a browser.  (and search-able too)


Other kids of my acquaintance mowed lawns to make money as young teens. I helped my mother with her database work (using dBASE) for her swimming lesson program.
 
2013-07-30 11:40:26 PM
... oh, and Lemonade Stand, Artillery, Road Trip, Oregon Trail, or any other game from the CUE Disks of old.

/my monochrome-green colored lawn, get off it.
 
2013-07-30 11:41:24 PM
Other lists Minecraft doesn't belong on:

Top 10 most influential games of 2009
Top 10 best games with the word "craft" in the title
Top 10 best sandbox games
Top 10 programs made by one guy
Top 5 programs made in Java that aren't broken as fark
 
2013-07-30 11:46:23 PM

shift_DAWG: Second on Rouge49's dBASE.

If I'd made that list, it would have included Elite (the space trading game - ported to just about every platform in the early 80s), Diversi-Dial (the first multi-user chat system accessible to regular people), and maybe Sabotage (turret/parachuter game).


That *plop* sound when you knock out a guy's parachute and land him on top of another already-landed paratrooper was great.
 
2013-07-30 11:51:34 PM

I Like Bread: Other lists Minecraft doesn't belong on:

Top 10 most influential games of 2009
Top 10 best games with the word "craft" in the title
Top 10 best sandbox games
Top 10 programs made by one guy
Top 5 programs made in Java that aren't broken as fark


About 10,000,000 kids aged 10-16 can't hear you over the sound of how much fun they are having.
 
2013-07-31 12:04:08 AM
They talk about HyperCard being influential, but don't even mention that it's the origin of certain web browser concepts we all know like the front, back, and home buttons, and the picture of a hand as the cursor. Also, the Myst games were made using HyperCard and QuickTime.
 
2013-07-31 12:10:19 AM

Bacontastesgood: I Like Bread: Other lists Minecraft doesn't belong on:

Top 10 most influential games of 2009
Top 10 best games with the word "craft" in the title
Top 10 best sandbox games
Top 10 programs made by one guy
Top 5 programs made in Java that aren't broken as fark

About 10,000,000 kids aged 10-16 can't hear you over the sound of how much fun they are having.


Only ten million? I thought of another list Minecraft won't be on.
 
2013-07-31 12:17:03 AM

lohphat: HempHead: pute kisses like a man: mcreadyblue: pute kisses like a man: and American's reliance on SABRE is the reason for the scheduling debacle after being acquired by United.

geez, SABRE was around forever.


SABRE is still being used by AA ( although they are in the process of moving to NextGenSABRE).


AA and USAir are in the process of merging.


United bought Continental, not AA. United used the Apollo (now called TravelPort) res system but moved to Continental's SHARES res system.


whoops, well excuse me for speaking out of my ass and not knowing what i'm talking about.  merger/acquisition... usair/united.  words... just words.


QANTAS also runs a cloned version of SABRE, although they too are switching to another Rez system (Amadeus I think).


Southwest Airlines uses the old Braniff COWBOY Rez system (now called SAAS) that is almost as old as SABRE and not nearly as functional(can't handle international flights).


Ironically, both SAAS and SABRE are hosted in the same data center in Tulsa.


My mom was a travel agent in the 70s-90s -- now that the internet killed that employment base the number of users affected by large system migrations is reduced to mostly just airline employees.


The flying public was greatly affected by the migration issues with United. I seem to remember UA having to ground all of thier planes a few times.

USAir will convert (back) to SABRE and then to NextGenSABRE. I can see a few hiccups in the future.
 
2013-07-31 02:02:55 AM
No mention of this...
www.clockworkhare.com
 
2013-07-31 02:17:30 AM
GEOS was around and introduced a ton of people to the idea of a Graphic UI almost a decade Windows 95 and first came out at almost the same time as the 1st Mac OS at a 10th of the price point of a Mac on the C64 (later bundled with the C64c). I would put it up there as far as OS's go. It was very tight in its programming by default due to it being limited to 8 bit hardware with 64k (yes, 64k) of memory to work with (the next best thing was the IBM PC with 640k of memory and it didn't have anything more than MSDOS 4.x and maybe X-Tree Gold to use as an OS and front end).

It was the third most used WYSIWYG GUI interface of its time with integrated software that rivaled most of the office and productivity software available at the time from spreadsheets and word processing to desktop publishing and a VB type programming suite at a much lower price point. It was Microsofts biggest threat and they shut it down by threatening to not sell MS licenses to any manufacturer that offered PC GEOS as an alternative to their products.

Now we have software that is bloated that doesn't really need to be except that it's become accepted practice to write sloppy code quickly to take advantage of cheap memory and hardware using Microsoft API's. Microsoft has no interest in making it tight in order to sell more computers using their software with ever expanding hardware requirements/ It's a vicious cycle that something like GEOS could have stopped over 20 years ago.
 
2013-07-31 04:12:44 AM

timujin: In 1980, when I was 6 years old, my father brought home an Atari 400/800.  He sat me down in front of it and put a book on the desk, An Introduction to the Basic Programming Language.  "Learn this," he said, "and you'll never have to dig a ditch in your life."

//worked out okay
/still ended up digging a ditch or two


You old man was a god.
 
2013-07-31 04:38:41 AM

Radioactive Ass: It's a vicious cycle that something like GEOS could have stopped over 20 years ago.


You're kidding yourself.
 
2013-07-31 04:43:36 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: neilbradley: The correct answer is 386BSD. Lots of what Linux does was taken from 386BSD and FreeBSD. See CFS as exhibit A.

*disbelieving eyeblink*

If FreeBSD (or Unix) was running on 96% of all the fastest computers in the world (cray, Ibm, china etc), the computers on the International Space Station, adopted by most major governments in the world, running the LHC at CERN  looking for the Higgs boson, controlling the world's stock exchanges (New York stock the Chicago Mercantile Exchange and London Stock Exchange), and 64% of all cell phones in the world, then I might agree with you.  But it isn't.  Linux is.
<snip>
Note that he didn't seem too worried about FreeBSD or Unix.


The article title said "Influential", not "most popular". Linux took a lot from 386BSD and FreeBSD. Hell, as mentioned earlier UNIX is more influential than just about everything. I'll also remind you that FreeBSD is at the heart of OSX that runs on, oh, just a few computers. And I'd bet even more desktop machines than Linux does. Might not be the most popular or gets the most press, but Linux wouldn't be what it is today without FreeBSD.
 
2013-07-31 07:13:44 AM
Why the hate for Minecraft? Oh I forgot it's cool and trendy to hate popular stuff, never mind.
 
2013-07-31 07:56:35 AM

HempHead: SunsetLament: Photoshop, Mosiac and Lotus Notes are no-brainers.  VisiCalc is a solid choice.  The rest of the list leaves something to be desired.

No Napster?  It catapulted file sharing on the internet.

No Doom?  There's a billion dollar industry built around first-person video games.

Someone mentioned PrintShopDeluxe - very influential.

Napster created the entire MP3 market. Who knew people would want to listen to inferior quality music? The music industry was incredibly stupid for not monetizing this and allowing Apple to dominate.


Well it's not that they wanted to listen to inferior quality. Its just that downloads were so slow on dial up that it still took 20 min to get a 3mb mp3.
 
2013-07-31 08:26:43 AM

pute kisses like a man: geez, SABRE was around forever.


There's a whole industry around propping up SABRE, bringing its data to the web or mobile devices. What should be a two-year project for a ten-person team is a multi-billion-dollar market employing tens of thousands.

Thanks, SABRE!
 
2013-07-31 08:30:48 AM

neilbradley: FreeBSD


Visual Basic
 
2013-07-31 08:34:39 AM
A BASIC reference in the year 2013?

If you get it, you are old.

/I am old.
 
2013-07-31 08:37:18 AM

WippitGuud: I agree with the title, BASIC should be on the list. It was the first programming language that was home based,

Someone mentioned Winamp for the digital media. I would like to add on Napster as the first real peer-to-peer file-sharing program.


Just read the article. BASIC is not a program, it is a programming language. The list is about programs, why should BASIC be there? If that's what Subby means, he got it wrong.
 
2013-07-31 09:08:09 AM

mayIFark: WippitGuud: I agree with the title, BASIC should be on the list. It was the first programming language that was home based,

Someone mentioned Winamp for the digital media. I would like to add on Napster as the first real peer-to-peer file-sharing program.

Just read the article. BASIC is not a program, it is a programming language. The list is about programs, why should BASIC be there? If that's what Subby means, he got it wrong.


I have to disagree.

A programming language is just a program that allows you to write other programs, and then compile it into binary that the computer will understand. BASIC was the first programming language marketed to personal computers.
 
2013-07-31 09:22:55 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: R.A.Danny: Lotus Notes is friggin awesome.

Done here. So secure, even the Head Idiot who Sleeps in the Whitehouse has a blackberry on it. You can have LookOut for your personal client, I care not.  We'll front your email to whatever email client you want.  For security, stability and scalability, IBM has it, and always has had it. An un-crackable schema.  Period. MS is a mishmash mess of noise and crap that gives you cancer if you're a Sys admin who has to juggle certs and cross .NET crap. Learn, the Notes/Domino schema has been the singular most successful/secure backbone in the last 30 years. If it's good enough for the US Navy, it's good enough for me.

/Domino sysadmin 22 years.
//slashies


So, you never have to apply security patches?

You might want to start catching up:http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-11.html


If you constantly find vulnerabilities after deployment - as EVERY publisher does - then "most secure" is still not "uncrackable."
 
2013-07-31 10:23:16 AM

Freschel: Why the hate for Minecraft? Oh I forgot it's cool and trendy to hate popular stuff, never mind.


Not only is it too soon to determine whether Minecraft has the longevity to merit being on a List called "The 10 Most Influential Software Programs of All Time", there's already evidence it's not going to have anywhere near the level of merit.

See my previous post.  If you're listed as number 1 for ALL TIME just because you're "The Flavor of the Week" and it's painfully obvious, you deserve all the hate you get.
 
2013-07-31 02:46:30 PM

elchupacabra: Freschel: Why the hate for Minecraft? Oh I forgot it's cool and trendy to hate popular stuff, never mind.

Not only is it too soon to determine whether Minecraft has the longevity to merit being on a List called "The 10 Most Influential Software Programs of All Time", there's already evidence it's not going to have anywhere near the level of merit.

See my previous post.  If you're listed as number 1 for ALL TIME just because you're "The Flavor of the Week" and it's painfully obvious, you deserve all the hate you get.


I hate to burst your bubble but it's not listed as number one. The list is in chronological order also it's listed as number ten.
 
2013-07-31 04:21:09 PM

Freschel: elchupacabra: Freschel: Why the hate for Minecraft? Oh I forgot it's cool and trendy to hate popular stuff, never mind.

Not only is it too soon to determine whether Minecraft has the longevity to merit being on a List called "The 10 Most Influential Software Programs of All Time", there's already evidence it's not going to have anywhere near the level of merit.

See my previous post.  If you're listed as number 1 for ALL TIME just because you're "The Flavor of the Week" and it's painfully obvious, you deserve all the hate you get.

I hate to burst your bubble but it's not listed as number one. The list is in chronological order also it's listed as number ten.


BTW hate the person that added Minecraft into the list not the game itself.

One more thing Minecraft should be in the top ten best sandbox game. I agree that Minecraft should not be in the top ten influencal programs. It's too early to know. It's becoming to be. With people making mods for it like Tekkit, Hexxit, Yogscast, Twilight, Feed The Beast and so on. 'Nuff said.
 
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