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(Slate)   Misuse of ellipses is really starting to...get out of hand   (slate.com) divider line 53
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2013-07-30 01:10:36 PM  
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wasn't used enough in time to save the Titanic
 
2013-07-30 01:10:38 PM  
I'm going to assume that William Shatner submitted this headline, and therefore the ellipses was entirely appropriate.
 
2013-07-30 01:10:46 PM  
www.esquire.com

Sometimes they're appropriate, though.
 
2013-07-30 01:11:16 PM  
xfinity.comcast.net
 
2013-07-30 01:12:04 PM  
Damn my slow fingers
 
2013-07-30 01:12:55 PM  

nmrsnr: I'm going to assume that William Shatner submitted this headline, and therefore the ellipses was entirely appropriate.


I have... nothing to add.
 
2013-07-30 01:12:55 PM  
Now I'm feeling jaded in our submitters
 
2013-07-30 01:19:04 PM  
(•_•)

I think submitter has shown.

( •_•)>⌐■-■

(⌐■_■)

Ellipse of judgement.
 
2013-07-30 01:19:13 PM  
Herb Caen would like a word...or several...preferably separated by three dots.
 
2013-07-30 01:21:01 PM  
Slate's article template: "I don't like (fill in the blank) so nobody else should."
 
2013-07-30 01:27:58 PM  
At first glance, I thought that said "epilepsy" and thought it was a fap joke or something...

I need some coffee. All I have is decaf.
 
2013-07-30 01:29:49 PM  

vernonFL: [xfinity.comcast.net image 300x300]


It seems like your post about ellipses was....less than punctual


YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!
 
2013-07-30 01:30:07 PM  
Another moron who thinks the whole world needs to be aware of his pet peeve.
 
2013-07-30 01:32:45 PM  
If you try to catch ellipses (...) you'll generally catch some exceptions thrown your way.
 
2013-07-30 01:35:18 PM  
I also like the manga use of ellipses as a way of showing someone being at a loss for words.
 
2013-07-30 01:40:26 PM  
Like spelling, grammar rules, punctuation evolves with use. People have found that the standard period doesn't prove them the full pause they wish to convey.

They could use a paragraph change to convey the pause.

But in the world of txt messaging... ellipses make more sense.
 
2013-07-30 01:46:26 PM  
i have a friend who ends every text message with an ellipses, wether there is a following message coming or not.  drives me up a farking wall.
 
2013-07-30 01:51:54 PM  
Don't use them... never have...
 
2013-07-30 01:57:07 PM  

nmrsnr: I also like the manga use of ellipses as a way of showing someone being at a loss for words.


There are usually lots of ellipses around other visual artifacts depicting squishy sounds.
 
2013-07-30 02:00:07 PM  
I'd rather we fully address the scourge of their/there/they're, using apostrophes to represent the plural, then/than, and the one that REALLY gets under my skin, people typing "could of" when they mean "could've".
 
2013-07-30 02:03:39 PM  

Irregardless: Don't use them... never have....


FTFY
 
2013-07-30 02:08:27 PM  
One thing is for sure... The farkers that have to be at the gym in 26 minutes are not overusing the ellipses.
 
2013-07-30 02:14:11 PM  

krej55: i have a friend who ends every text message with an ellipses, wether there is a following message coming or not.  drives me up a farking wall.


Go on...
 
2013-07-30 02:23:20 PM  
Another though-provoking, insightful article from Slate.

Next up: why do we breath?

nmrsnr: I also like the manga use of ellipses as a way of showing someone being at a loss for words.


Pretty sure that's a general thing and not a "manga thing".

[Aside]

Ellipses can be used
...to represent an omission of words in quoted text.
...to represent a "loss for words" (not to be confused with the above).
...to indicate one's speech trailing off, as if the speaker became lost in thought.
...similarly, to indicate a pause in speech.
...as a dramatic pause in prose, typically to indicate the passage of time.
...to indicate an unfinished list, as opposed to writing "etc." or "et al."
...to show the attachment of individual list items as the completion of a sentence, as with this list.
 
2013-07-30 02:41:12 PM  
I can't be the only one who read that in Jeremy Clarkson's voice.

The greatest user of ellipses...in the world.
 
2013-07-30 02:54:17 PM  
I'm ashamed that I used to like the ellipsis. Luckily, I eventually learned what punctuation to use in place of it every time I used it.  It was grand.  I still use them in direct quotes or jokes, when the feel is called for.  I can't remember the last time an exclamation mark was called for on the internet though.
 
2013-07-30 03:03:10 PM  
Louis-Ferdinand Céline would like a word with the author...
 
2013-07-30 03:09:00 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Another though-provoking, insightful article from Slate.

Next up: why do we breath?

nmrsnr: I also like the manga use of ellipses as a way of showing someone being at a loss for words.

Pretty sure that's a general thing and not a "manga thing".

[Aside]

Ellipses can be used
...to represent an omission of words in quoted text.
...to represent a "loss for words" (not to be confused with the above).
...to indicate one's speech trailing off, as if the speaker became lost in thought.
...similarly, to indicate a pause in speech.
...as a dramatic pause in prose, typically to indicate the passage of time.
...to indicate an unfinished list, as opposed to writing "etc." or "et al."
...to show the attachment of individual list items as the completion of a sentence, as with this list.



I have to admit I'm guilty of this - especially for most of the reasons above. The primary reason - or cause is because of texting with a smart phone keyboard. It is much easier to represent many of the situations on the list without having to fiddle about with complex punctuation...when i can simply insert a few dots to transition, pause, or represent something.
i didn't realize that it was a faux pas...i just figured there was no real etiquette...it was texting, whatever conveyed the message the quickest and easiest -   i will have to check with the people i text to find out if it truly is offensive.
 
2013-07-30 03:11:30 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Pretty sure that's a general thing and not a "manga thing".


I've never seen it used outside of comics, and very rarely in Western comics. I can't say I've studied its origins much, though.
 
2013-07-30 03:19:13 PM  
I used ellipses ... before they were cool.
 
2013-07-30 04:50:53 PM  

Worst Name I Ever Heard: krej55: i have a friend who ends every text message with an ellipses, wether there is a following message coming or not.  drives me up a farking wall.

Go on...


please...
 
2013-07-30 04:51:34 PM  

krej55: i have a friend who ends every text message with an ellipses, wether there is a following message coming or not.  drives me up a farking wall.


Better than the morons who end every sentence like this,,,
 
2013-07-30 04:53:37 PM  

nmrsnr: ArcadianRefugee: Pretty sure that's a general thing and not a "manga thing".

I've never seen it used outside of comics, and very rarely in Western comics. I can't say I've studied its origins much, though.


How about every single JRPG, every third line of conversation?  I hate dialogue in those games, as I am endlessly pressing a button to get past "..."

Sometimes they will say "..." to each other, back and forth.
 
2013-07-30 04:58:17 PM  
Why do I even click on Slate articles?

Does Slate do anything except publish "This is my pet peeve, and the world is ending because of it." shiat anymore?

page views or bust!
 
2013-07-30 05:12:45 PM  

PreciousHamburgers: I can't be the only one who read that in Jeremy Clarkson's voice.

The greatest user of ellipses...in the world.


Yeah, but I'm getting really tired of that ellipses from him being in the form of him sucking air through those gnarly fangs sticking out of his face.
 
2013-07-30 05:35:36 PM  

nmrsnr: I also like the manga use of ellipses as a way of showing someone being at a loss for words.


That's the only usage of them I don't like.
 
2013-07-30 06:34:03 PM  
What I can't stand is idiots that use them, in different lengths, depending on how cunning they think they're being

"so what you should do ... is open up the door .......... and leave them there .................."
 
2013-07-30 06:57:51 PM  

Dragonflew: krej55: i have a friend who ends every text message with an ellipses, wether there is a following message coming or not.  drives me up a farking wall.

Better than the morons who end every sentence like this,,,


Urge to kill... rising
 
2013-07-30 07:22:55 PM  
I have to admit... I use them too much. And I am not even joking about this, I really do.
 
2013-07-30 07:36:46 PM  
I see... we just had... a bad spell of whether...

/castrated goat...
//slashie...
 
2013-07-30 07:50:03 PM  
Yeah... I tend to do that myself

...a lot.
 
2013-07-30 08:56:56 PM  
I agree.
farm5.staticflickr.com


/stupid ricers
 
2013-07-30 09:02:34 PM  
Fark it. I use 'em...all the time.
 
2013-07-30 09:18:58 PM  
Oh my god... Who the hell cares?
 
2013-07-30 09:43:41 PM  

Dragonflew: nmrsnr: ArcadianRefugee: Pretty sure that's a general thing and not a "manga thing".

I've never seen it used outside of comics, and very rarely in Western comics. I can't say I've studied its origins much, though.

How about every single JRPG, every third line of conversation?  I hate dialogue in those games, as I am endlessly pressing a button to get past "..."

Sometimes they will say "..." to each other, back and forth.


That, too; like this:

www.consoleclassix.com

(OK, so I suppose that's a holdover from the Japanese....)

Also, as the article points out:

upload.wikimedia.org

fifties1950s.com

paulocoelhoblog.com
A page from an X-men comic; they don't use the ellipsis, preferring a double dash: Link.

(Same idea, though.)

Fantastic Four, with ellipses: Link, Link, Link.
 
2013-07-30 11:09:07 PM  
Once upon a time I was falling in love
Now I'm only falling apart
There's nothing I can do
A total ellipse of the heart
 
2013-07-31 12:08:58 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: A page from an X-men comic; they don't use the ellipsis, preferring a double dash: Link.


That's called an "em dash", and when googling that I run into -- I kid you not -- RTFA's Slate's article template "I don't like (fill in the blank) so nobody else should."

Seriously. RTFA wins the thread.
 
2013-07-31 01:11:33 AM  

nmrsnr: I also like the manga use of ellipses as a way of showing someone being at a loss for words.


That's exactly the sort of use it's great at. Stunned disbelief. Unfortunately people use them all the time in forum posts and similar that reek of condescension and mean spirited sarcasm, often without intending to.

It's the difference between: "That's a nice hat." and "That's a nice hat...."
 
2013-07-31 01:24:20 AM  

arentol: I have to admit... I use them too much. And I am not even joking about this, I really do.


I think overuse of the phrase "I'm not even joking about this" is a worse offense.
 
2013-07-31 01:28:24 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: page views or bust!


Yeah. Of course, every website wants page views. But  Slate being  Slate*, they have to go way the fark out of their way to rub their clickbaiting in your face, while simultaneously telling you they're not. Because contrarianism.

* Tomorrow on  Slate: "Do You Think  Slate is  Slate? You're Wrong."
 
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