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(Huffington Post)   Kentucky citizens call new school science curriculum "socialist" and "fascist", and there are about four things wrong with that sentence   (huffingtonpost.com ) divider line
    More: Dumbass, Next Generation Science Standards, Kentucky, teaching of evolution, Kentucky Board of Education, program note, compulsory education, elective, Gary Herbert  
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2013-07-30 09:24:55 AM  
11 votes:

Trivia Jockey: There are about 10,000 evolutionary biologists who read this and are wondering where all these rich evolutionsts are.


I bet they are rich, compared to droopy-eyed Kentuckians who lost their jobs because you just can't keep putting your hand in the fryolator and trying to catch a McNugget
2013-07-30 09:20:39 AM  
9 votes:
There are about 10,000 evolutionary biologists who read this and are wondering where all these rich evolutionsts are.
2013-07-30 09:15:07 AM  
8 votes:
we must follow the rich man's elitist religion of evolution

Disparaging the wealthy? What kind of America hating communist is this guy?
2013-07-30 11:45:49 AM  
7 votes:
Seeing as the idiots in the article are already claiming that they are going to be the victims of wholesale slaughter, I propose we go ahead and do it anyway.
2013-07-30 09:18:27 AM  
7 votes:
So, teaching evolution leads to genocide and murder?

Just how bad is the meth problem in Kentucky?
2013-07-30 10:15:36 AM  
6 votes:
Another opponent, Dena Stewart-Gore, suggested that the standards will make religious students feel ostracized. "The way socialism works is it takes anybody that doesn't fit the mold and discards them," she said, per the The Courier-Journal. "We are even talking genocide and murder here, folks."

Are we very sure this is not just a re-posted Onion article?
2013-07-30 11:03:36 AM  
5 votes:

SilentStrider: Dear South,
You have been cordially invited to join the rest of the nation in the 21st century. It won't hurt you. We promise,


Let's not get hasty here, bub. Ease them into the 20th Century, first. THEN give them a shot at the 21st.
2013-07-30 09:28:09 AM  
5 votes:
I going to assume that none of the protesters even came close to realizing how difficult it is for something to be both fascist and socialist.
2013-07-30 10:36:54 AM  
4 votes:
And whut's with all this fancy heliocentrism?  It says clearly in the Bible that Joshua stopped the sun outside the walls of Jericho - clearly the sun goes around the Earth.
2013-07-30 12:07:13 PM  
3 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 300x286]

wat

The Hebrew is "רְאֵמִים", meaning "young oxen". How does one get "unicorns" out of that? No, I'm serious.

// see also Psalms 29 - "the hills danced like young oxen"
// assuming no one's ever seen a unicorn, how could they use its dance as a metaphor in any kind of useful way if no one's ever seen it?


blog.blahgyou.com
2013-07-30 11:51:51 AM  
3 votes:
I do not understand objections to teaching children fascism and socialism along with capitalism. Should not children be exposed to all ideas equally, so that they may decide on their own?
2013-07-30 11:35:22 AM  
3 votes:
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2013-07-30 10:44:04 AM  
3 votes:

SurfaceTension: People such as these, when you present them with the real scientific theories that goes against what they've "known" forever, they see it as not just a threat to their own world-view, but a threat to the trust they've placed in those who have been close to them their entire lives. If your parent spent 30 years telling you that God created the heavens and earth, and then some "rich man's elitist scientist" comes along and says "no, it isn't like that at all," you're going to get a visceral reaction from the believers because you're not just telling them that they are wrong, you're saying their loved ones are wrong too. And if their loved ones were wrong about that, what else are they wrong about? It's overwhelming to the believer and most can't sort it out, so they fall back into denial instead.


In this way, I now appreciate The Waterboy as a sophisticated allegory of the epistemic closure that is epidemic among the modern conservative and Republican ideologies.
2013-07-30 01:03:34 PM  
2 votes:

Wellon Dowd: Good things about Kentucky

[i.imgur.com image 500x427]
[i.imgur.com image 344x500]
[i.imgur.com image 500x667]


That's all I can think of.


Umm....Fark.com?
2013-07-30 12:20:32 PM  
2 votes:

FloydA: If you want to debate the validity of evolution, I'll listen and gladly engage in the discussion with you. Any takers?


When Charmelon (level 16) evolves to Charizod (level 36), does that make Baby Jesus cry?
2013-07-30 12:08:26 PM  
2 votes:

Dr Dreidel: The Hebrew is "רְאֵמִים", meaning "young oxen". How does one get "unicorns" out of that? No, I'm serious.


Whoa, careful there, Mr. Jewish Smartypants... we're talking about the BIBLE here!  No need to mix all this Jewish-y stuff into the conversation about JESUS.  Completely different topic!

/end sarcasm
2013-07-30 12:02:28 PM  
2 votes:

Tigger: Seeing as the idiots in the article are already claiming that they are going to be the victims of wholesale slaughter, I propose we go ahead and do it anyway.


The cigarettes are doing their job just fine.
2013-07-30 10:29:04 AM  
2 votes:

Lucky LaRue: Matt Singleton, a Baptist minister, ... spoke to the board about why the standards should not be adopted... "Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man's elitist religion of evolution, that we no longer have what the Kentucky Constitution says is the right to worship almighty God"

Yes, that is what you are being told.  You no longer have the right to worship almighty God.


But if I learn this, I'll be no better than those statue-worshipping Catholics!
2013-07-30 09:13:34 AM  
2 votes:
Matt Singleton, a Baptist minister, ... spoke to the board about why the standards should not be adopted... "Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man's elitist religion of evolution, that we no longer have what the Kentucky Constitution says is the right to worship almighty God"

Yes, that is what you are being told.  You no longer have the right to worship almighty God.
2013-07-31 12:14:41 AM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: THE GREAT NAME: In fact it isn't even science. It's pseudoscience, like astrology and so on.

LOL


"FlashHarry, have we got derpsign?"

"ciberido, we have derpsign the likes of which even God has never seen!"
2013-07-30 05:11:31 PM  
1 vote:

Lando Lincoln: born_yesterday: OK, so if evolution isn't real, and God made us himself, and we came after all of the plants and animals, then why is our DNA 99% similar to that of chimpanzees?

God's a lazy copy-paster.


You dirty heretic.  It's clearly written in Ecclesiastes that God only uses CUT and paste.
2013-07-30 03:51:07 PM  
1 vote:

No Such Agency: FloydA:

But if people evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?



If God made man from dust, then why is there still dust?
2013-07-30 03:13:03 PM  
1 vote:

No Such Agency: FloydA:

But if people evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?


If you descended from your Grandparents, why do you have cousins?
2013-07-30 02:44:36 PM  
1 vote:

Russ1642: No smart-ass scientist is gonna tell me that we condescended from monkeys. That's not my culture and heritage. Is that your culture and heritage?


Is you is, or is you ain't my constituency?
2013-07-30 02:38:52 PM  
1 vote:

Serious Black: Another opponent, Dena Stewart-Gore, suggested that the standards will make religious students feel ostracized. "The way socialism works is it takes anybody that doesn't fit the mold and discards them," she said, per the The Courier-Journal. "We are even talking genocide and murder here, folks."


Wow. An evidence-based science curriculum means we're going to exterminate Christians. When the hell did I miss that memo?


Ah. You missed Thursday's meeting. A motion of murder and genocide was brought to the table by the atheist from California. We debated and then voted. It passed 3 billion to 1 (the atheist from Kansas wouldn't get on board).
2013-07-30 02:27:24 PM  
1 vote:
ts4.mm.bing.net
2013-07-30 02:15:12 PM  
1 vote:
No smart-ass scientist is gonna tell me that we condescended from monkeys. That's not my culture and heritage. Is that your culture and heritage?
2013-07-30 02:06:39 PM  
1 vote:

born_yesterday: OK, so if evolution isn't real, and God made us himself, and we came after all of the plants and animals, then why is our DNA 99% similar to that of chimpanzees?


God's a lazy copy-paster.
2013-07-30 02:06:37 PM  
1 vote:

No Such Agency: FloydA:

But if people evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?


If Americans are descended from Europeans, why are there still Europeans?
2013-07-30 01:51:30 PM  
1 vote:

dustygrimp: FlashHarry: "treats evolution as fact."

evolution IS a fact, you farking idiots. the theory is to HOW it happens, the prevailing thought being that it happens via natural selection.

Has this become outmoded? Looking around at the teen moms and white trash of the nation, I am starting to wonder what nature is selecting for and to what end.


actually, that is a fair question. technology and money keep alive those creatures which would have perished in the wild. creatures such as snooki, paris hilton and amanda bynes.
2013-07-30 01:09:30 PM  
1 vote:

demaL-demaL-yeH: Evil Mackerel: Makers mark? Woodford or Pappy's are superior.

Shut. Up,
/More for us.


All inferior to Jack Daniels.
2013-07-30 01:06:08 PM  
1 vote:

born_yesterday: OK, so if evolution isn't real, and God made us himself, and we came after all of the plants and animals, then why is our DNA 99% similar to that of chimpanzees?  Are you trying to tell me that God made us with spare monkey parts?


No, you idiot.  God made chimpanzees with spare human parts.
2013-07-30 01:05:00 PM  
1 vote:

cowgirl toffee: Damn strait there's something wrong subby.  Kentucky people can't spell.


*whistle*
*flag thrown*
Personal foul: Kentucky-bashing from Tennessee / pot-kettle division by zero. Fifteen yards and loss of down.
2013-07-30 01:00:15 PM  
1 vote:
OK, so if evolution isn't real, and God made us himself, and we came after all of the plants and animals, then why is our DNA 99% similar to that of chimpanzees?  Are you trying to tell me that God made us with spare monkey parts?
2013-07-30 12:46:18 PM  
1 vote:

No Such Agency: FloydA:

But if people evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?


Because without them we'd be overrun with bananas.
2013-07-30 12:42:32 PM  
1 vote:

Elegy: Dr Dreidel: Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 300x286]

wat

The Hebrew is "רְאֵמִים", meaning "young oxen". How does one get "unicorns" out of that? No, I'm serious.

// see also Psalms 29 - "the hills danced like young oxen"
// assuming no one's ever seen a unicorn, how could they use its dance as a metaphor in any kind of useful way if no one's ever seen it?

I believe that "unicorns" is the translation provided by the KJV.

Obviously King James' famed 47 translators put the unpaid intern to work on that particular verse and took the day off.


King James' translators were functional retards even by the standards of 1600s England (which, considering the drivel coming out of 1600s England is saying something).  An illiterate Calcutta bootblack could have done a better job
2013-07-30 12:38:35 PM  
1 vote:

Elegy: Dr Dreidel: Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 300x286]

wat

The Hebrew is "רְאֵמִים", meaning "young oxen". How does one get "unicorns" out of that? No, I'm serious.

// see also Psalms 29 - "the hills danced like young oxen"
// assuming no one's ever seen a unicorn, how could they use its dance as a metaphor in any kind of useful way if no one's ever seen it?

I believe that "unicorns" is the translation provided by the KJV.

Obviously King James' famed 47 translators put the unpaid intern to work on that particular verse and took the day off.


Well, you see, oxen back in those days were actually unicorns at birth but would get fat and lose their horn when they hit puberty.  So, "young oxen" and "unicorns" are actually the same thing.
The reason that modern day oxen work differently than the oxen of yore is a mystery to me though.  Evidently their biology has changed over time.
2013-07-30 12:37:54 PM  
1 vote:

Trivia Jockey: Tigger: Seeing as the idiots in the article are already claiming that they are going to be the victims of wholesale slaughter, I propose we go ahead and do it anyway.

Brutal, but effective.


data.whicdn.com
The tanks are ready to go, sir.  Just give the word.
2013-07-30 12:31:22 PM  
1 vote:

FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 533x640]
Nothing in there about the right to worship whatever you please.  Nothing in there about socialism.  Nothing in there about fascism. Nothing in there about rich men or elitism.  Nothing in there about murder and genocide.

I wouldn't mind discussing, or even debating evolution if the opponents of it would actually be willing to do so.  They seem dead-set on avoiding the actual topic however, and instead ranting about some other completely unrelated nonsense.  If you want to debate the validity of evolution, I'll listen and gladly engage in the discussion with you.  Any takers?


I don't see "Jesus," "America," or "Wal-Mart" anywhere in all of that fancy smartguy science talk. So it's wrong. And you'd better admit you just made it up to make me feel stupid, or the magical man in the sky will set you on fire. Because he loves you.
2013-07-30 12:29:16 PM  
1 vote:

Trivia Jockey: Aarontology: Funnily enough, the Catholic Church says there's no conflict between Christianity and evolutionary biology and even teaches it in science class in their schools.

Well of course they do, they have an atheist Pope.


At least their pope is only atheist.  OUR pope is a Kenyan muslatheist fasocialist!
2013-07-30 12:20:29 PM  
1 vote:
static.tvtropes.org
The correct term is Commie-Nazis
2013-07-30 12:20:20 PM  
1 vote:

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: give me doughnuts: Rapmaster2000: Why do religious groups care about climate change?


It can't be real because that would mean the socialist commie gay liberal scientists are right, and Baby Jesus doesn't like science. It makes Him cry. And because only Jesus and God control the weather.

If Jesus stood for anything, it was preferable tax policies for domestic energy producers.


Don't forget the 2nd Amendment.
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2013-07-30 12:17:50 PM  
1 vote:
These days, who cares what the third world monkeys from those states think.  Personally, I just think that most people from red states are incapable of anything other than grunts and hoots.  Why even attempt to talk to them, they will just throw their feces at you?

For those of you in Kentucky "ook ook snort ock ock."
2013-07-30 12:16:35 PM  
1 vote:

give me doughnuts: Rapmaster2000: Why do religious groups care about climate change?


It can't be real because that would mean the socialist commie gay liberal scientists are right, and Baby Jesus doesn't like science. It makes Him cry. And because only Jesus and God control the weather.


If Jesus stood for anything, it was preferable tax policies for domestic energy producers.
2013-07-30 12:16:18 PM  
1 vote:

Elegy: [i.imgur.com image 300x286]


There's a PBF for everything!
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2013-07-30 12:15:34 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: Dr Dreidel: wat

The Hebrew is "רְאֵמִים", meaning "young oxen". How does one get "unicorns" out of that? No, I'm serious.

// see also Psalms 29 - "the hills danced like young oxen"
// assuming no one's ever seen a unicorn, how could they use its dance as a metaphor in any kind of useful way if no one's ever seen it?

it's from the king james version. a 17th century (or earlier) mistranslation, no doubt. makes you wonder what else has slipped through...


There was one Bible from (I think) the 17th century which left out the "not" in "Thou shalt not commit adultery."  Epic hilarity ensued.

Ah, here it is:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_Bible
2013-07-30 12:15:16 PM  
1 vote:
They have their God-given right to stay stupid poor, and nobody better try take that away from them!
2013-07-30 12:12:27 PM  
1 vote:

kidgenius: Home school your kids.


The world needs ditch diggers too.
rpm
2013-07-30 12:10:22 PM  
1 vote:

Trivia Jockey: I going to assume that none of the protesters even came close to realizing how difficult it is for something to be both fascist and socialist.


Privatize profits, socialize losses.

Can you think of any government that embodies that ideal?
2013-07-30 12:06:50 PM  
1 vote:
Why should I worry about a state who's average IQ is below "functional"?  And not because they're developmentally disabled, but because they willingly want to be retarded.
2013-07-30 12:06:15 PM  
1 vote:

vernonFL: "We are even talking genocide and murder here, folks."

No we aren't.

Nobody is talking about murdering people. Nobody is talking about Kentucky genocide.

Those are not being discussed by anyone but YOU.


As a Kentuckian..... I would like to talk about Kentucky genocide. There are complete counties that just need to be wiped off the map.
2013-07-30 11:56:37 AM  
1 vote:
Have I mentioned lately how happy I am you don't see pagans doing this sort of nonsense?
2013-07-30 11:55:52 AM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: top ten: all blue states
bottom ten: all red states


And they wonder why the north pokes fun at them.

It reminds me of Rick Perry...when confronted with the stats that his abstinence-only state ranks at the very bottom of teen pregnancy statistics, he said that the teachers must not be doing a good enough job teaching abstinence.

The facepalm is on full auto.
2013-07-30 11:53:41 AM  
1 vote:

Tigger: Seeing as the idiots in the article are already claiming that they are going to be the victims of wholesale slaughter, I propose we go ahead and do it anyway.


Brutal, but effective.
2013-07-30 11:33:37 AM  
1 vote:

Aarontology: Funnily enough, the Catholic Church says there's no conflict between Christianity and evolutionary biology and even teaches it in science class in their schools.


I'm well aware, given that I'm Catholic.  I also know that I don't worship statues, but then I'm not a very good Catholic.

SurfaceTension: People such as these, when you present them with the real scientific theories that goes against what they've "known" forever, they see it as not just a threat to their own world-view, but a threat to the trust they've placed in those who have been close to them their entire lives.


Ultimately this is the root of the problem.  It only seems like mythology from the outside; for people raised, immersed in such teachings it is the root of their worldview.  That's the biggest problem with religion being used as a front for pseudoscience, especially when leaders of religions take firm stands that actual science is heretical, and then forges their political ideology around it.  So you end up with a group of people whose political, religious, and scientific takes on life are all rigid and intertwined, and sure enough they don't accept it when some "other" comes along and tries to explain a problem with their scientific view.

Plus there's a lot of mercury in the water supply throughout Appalachia because of coal-fired power plants.
2013-07-30 11:06:52 AM  
1 vote:

Trivia Jockey: I get that, but for hundreds of years human society has only progressed when people questioned the correctness of those that came before them.


You're assuming that these people have a desire to see society progress.
2013-07-30 10:51:29 AM  
1 vote:
Dear South,
You have been cordially invited to join the rest of the nation in the 21st century. It won't hurt you. We promise,
2013-07-30 10:36:20 AM  
1 vote:

Aarontology: Funnily enough, the Catholic Church says there's no conflict between Christianity and evolutionary biology and even teaches it in science class in their schools.


Well of course they do, they have an atheist Pope.
2013-07-30 10:24:49 AM  
1 vote:

kronicfeld: Are we very sure this is not just a re-posted Onion article?


I feel like "is this from The Onion?" is the new Poe's Law.
2013-07-30 10:02:50 AM  
1 vote:
The day I listen to a minister tell me what is science and what is not is that day I converse with a minister with a hard science PhD. Until then, I'll consult with the clergy on matters ecumenical while saving my science-speech for degree-holding debaters.
2013-07-30 09:35:11 AM  
1 vote:
Normally I'd just laugh something like this off and say "the stupid, it burns!"  But when it comes to global warming, the stupid really is going to burn us.
2013-07-30 09:31:14 AM  
1 vote:

Trivia Jockey: I going to assume that none of the protesters even came close to realizing how difficult it is for something to be both fascist and socialist.


That tends to be one of those things that people ignore in their zeal for capitalism.

Also:
some religious groups take issue because standards treat evolution as fact and talk about the human role in climate change.
awwww... they treat fact as fact.  How irresponsible of them.
 
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