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2013-07-30 02:11:42 PM

wolfpaq777: FlashHarry: Godscrack: America's Best (and Worst) Educated States - Kentucky 4th worst

top ten: all blue states
bottom ten: all red states

Ironic that someone criticizing states for lack of education is so hopelessly confused on the whole correlation vs causation thing.


So what conclusion did he come to that you are criticizing? Because all I see is a simple data point. Can one infer something from that? Of course, but he didn't, therefore your post was out of order.

Out of order, I say!
 
2013-07-30 02:13:50 PM
ciberido:

There's another issue, the idea that Jesus was a descendant of King David.  That heritage comes from Joseph, not Mary, which would seem to imply that Joseph was Jesus' biological, not merely adoptive, father.  Some people handwave this away by saying "well, when they say Joseph was Jesus' father and David's descendant, they mean it metaphorically."

Where are you seeing an actual claim of heritage?  I know in the telling of his birth he was relocated for the census to Nazareth because Joseph was "of the house of David," but I don't recall any blood claim anywhere.
 
2013-07-30 02:15:12 PM
No smart-ass scientist is gonna tell me that we condescended from monkeys. That's not my culture and heritage. Is that your culture and heritage?
 
2013-07-30 02:16:47 PM
"Outsiders are telling public school families that we must follow the rich man's elitist religion of evolution, that we no longer have what the Kentucky Constitution says is the right to worship almighty God,"

Hey douchebag... You are still 100% free to worship "almighty God". Seriously, give it a try sometime.And then apologize to the descendants of anyone who died because of TRUE lack of religious freedom.

Also, you can teach your religion in religion class, but keep your superstitious shiat out of the classroom until you have some kind of science behind it.

And people wonder why we're getting tired of Christian types.
 
2013-07-30 02:20:53 PM

wolfpaq777: FlashHarry: Godscrack: America's Best (and Worst) Educated States - Kentucky 4th worst

top ten: all blue states
bottom ten: all red states

Ironic that someone criticizing states for lack of education is so hopelessly confused on the whole correlation vs causation thing.


While correlation might not be causation, it may be an indication of causation.
 
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2013-07-30 02:23:06 PM

dustygrimp: Has this become outmoded? Looking around at the teen moms and white trash of the nation, I am starting to wonder what nature is selecting for and to what end


There is no end, not to natural selection, that's kind of the point. The selection in this case is not quite natural. It's "how can we keep the rubes coming"
 
2013-07-30 02:24:15 PM
From the Slideshow at the bottom:

Arizona
In April, Arizona Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signed legislation requiring the state Board of Education to design a high school elective course for public and charter school students titled "The Bible and its influence on Western Culture," which would include lessons on the history, literature and influence of the Old and New testaments on laws, government and culture, among other aspects of society.

Well, I'll be damned, Jan Brewer did something that makes sense? It's an elective, and it's designed to study the Bible's cultural influence on today's society? Cool, that's exactly the kind of religion class a lot of people here are fine with. I'm sure they'll try and inject religious indoctrination, but they may be in for a surprise when they get students interested in religion, but not interested in being beat over the head with it.

I guess Brewer was bound to get something right eventually, blind squirrel, broken clock, all that...
 
2013-07-30 02:27:24 PM
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2013-07-30 02:32:27 PM

Russ1642: No smart-ass scientist is gonna tell me that we condescended from monkeys. That's not my culture and heritage. Is that your culture and heritage?


Well, perhaps you didn't really descend that far.
 
2013-07-30 02:32:41 PM

Tigger: Seeing as the idiots in the article are already claiming that they are going to be the victims of wholesale slaughter, I propose we go ahead and do it anyway.


I like that, but I feel that we need to tweak it just a little bit. Obviously not everybody in Kentucky is a mouth-breathing imbecile. Not even every Christian in Kentucky is this stupid, so it's unfair to kill them just because their neighbors are polluting the gene pool.

It's simple, really. Stage a HUGE event at the Creation Museum, free hillbilly day, something like that. When the place is packed to capacity and beyond, drop a very small tactical nuke, only big enough to wipe out the building and everyone inside, but leave the state largely intact...
 
2013-07-30 02:33:45 PM
I went to high school in Lexington.  (The same school as Jim Varney.)
I don't remember any bullshiat creationism in SCIENCE! class back in the 70s except the Bio teacher did state something about "we all know about the biblical creation, well here's what science says about the origin of man".
Or something like that.

The only other so-called religion in our school was one of my Geometry teachers was a full fledged Pentacostal minister.  He always kept religion out of the class except maybe when we had a short class which ended up in a discussion about this or that.  And religion was never his first choice of topic.  He'd rather talk about dumb old math stuff.
 
2013-07-30 02:33:51 PM

dustygrimp: FlashHarry: "treats evolution as fact."

evolution IS a fact, you farking idiots. the theory is to HOW it happens, the prevailing thought being that it happens via natural selection.

Has this become outmoded? Looking around at the teen moms and white trash of the nation, I am starting to wonder what nature is selecting for and to what end.


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2013-07-30 02:38:52 PM

Serious Black: Another opponent, Dena Stewart-Gore, suggested that the standards will make religious students feel ostracized. "The way socialism works is it takes anybody that doesn't fit the mold and discards them," she said, per the The Courier-Journal. "We are even talking genocide and murder here, folks."


Wow. An evidence-based science curriculum means we're going to exterminate Christians. When the hell did I miss that memo?


Ah. You missed Thursday's meeting. A motion of murder and genocide was brought to the table by the atheist from California. We debated and then voted. It passed 3 billion to 1 (the atheist from Kansas wouldn't get on board).
 
2013-07-30 02:42:37 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: As a Kentuckian..... I would like to talk about Kentucky genocide. There are complete counties that just need to be wiped off the map.

Stay away from my kin.
/They are armed.


Let me guess...... Pike County?
 
2013-07-30 02:44:36 PM

Russ1642: No smart-ass scientist is gonna tell me that we condescended from monkeys. That's not my culture and heritage. Is that your culture and heritage?


Is you is, or is you ain't my constituency?
 
2013-07-30 02:45:09 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: FarkinHostile: Satan's Bunny Slippers: When will science come up with a prenatal test for the defect that creates conservative fundamentalists?

Fortunately, conservative fundamentalism is not a birth defect, but more of a traumatic injury.

I don't know about that. It does run in families.

gnosis301: THE GREAT NAME: Climatology=rubbish, propoaganda dressed as science

Really?

Yes. Propoaganda means "empirically-confirmed theory".
/Suspects that ba'al shemtov is either a garden-variety English antisemite or Sascha.


Really? Where's the empirical conformation for catastrophic AGW?
 
2013-07-30 03:04:27 PM

Aarontology: Funnily enough, the Catholic Church says there's no conflict between Christianity and evolutionary biology and even teaches it in science class in their schools.


Which is one of many reasons that the sort of "Christian" cited in this article does not consider Catholics to be Christians.  Plain enough.
 
2013-07-30 03:06:21 PM

QueenMamaBee: demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: As a Kentuckian..... I would like to talk about Kentucky genocide. There are complete counties that just need to be wiped off the map.

Stay away from my kin.
/They are armed.

Let me guess...... Pike County?


Nope. Let me guess ... Fayette County?
/Or Bullitt?
 
2013-07-30 03:06:26 PM

Dimensio: I do not understand objections to teaching children fascism and socialism along with capitalism. Should not children be exposed to all ideas equally, so that they may decide on their own?


I support teaching all political and economic systems, or at least a basic version, in high school so that you don't have derpers screaming that things are communistic when communisim is an economic theory.
 
2013-07-30 03:08:00 PM

Trivia Jockey: Normally I'd just laugh something like this off and say "the stupid, it burns!"  But when it comes to global warming, the stupid really is going to burn us.


It's far more likely to drown me personally.  But I live on the coast.

/know how to swim
//not looking forward to it
///wondering if I can install pontoons on this house...
 
2013-07-30 03:09:17 PM

QueenMamaBee: demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: As a Kentuckian..... I would like to talk about Kentucky genocide. There are complete counties that just need to be wiped off the map.

Stay away from my kin.
/They are armed.

Let me guess...... Pike County?


(You do know that there are exactly zero Jews in Pike County.)
 
2013-07-30 03:13:03 PM

No Such Agency: FloydA:

But if people evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?


If you descended from your Grandparents, why do you have cousins?
 
2013-07-30 03:14:01 PM

Rwa2play: Weaver95: Have I mentioned lately how happy I am you don't see pagans doing this sort of nonsense?

At this point I see Satanists with much more common sense than the Evangelicals.


I'm not sure Satanists are rational, but maybe they have some common sense.  I'd point out though, that Satanists and Pagans have about as much in common as.... well they have almost nothing in common.

/pretty sure you know that
//still feel its required to say it
///the dumb, it's everywhere.
 
2013-07-30 03:15:57 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: As a Kentuckian..... I would like to talk about Kentucky genocide. There are complete counties that just need to be wiped off the map.

Stay away from my kin.
/They are armed.

Let me guess...... Pike County?

Nope. Let me guess ... Fayette County?
/Or Bullitt?


No, I'm from Boyd County.... probably the only one in the county not selling meth.
 
2013-07-30 03:18:17 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: As a Kentuckian..... I would like to talk about Kentucky genocide. There are complete counties that just need to be wiped off the map.

Stay away from my kin.
/They are armed.

Let me guess...... Pike County?

(You do know that there are exactly zero Jews in Pike County.)


I was just guessing a county that's heavily armed :)

I brought a Philly Jew to the Derby a few years ago, she couldn't understand a word my friend from Carter County said. I was like a translator all week.
 
2013-07-30 03:19:34 PM

wolfpaq777: FlashHarry: Godscrack: America's Best (and Worst) Educated States - Kentucky 4th worst

top ten: all blue states
bottom ten: all red states

Ironic that someone criticizing states for lack of education is so hopelessly confused on the whole correlation vs causation thing.


any causation is inferred by you. i merely pointed out the correlation.
 
2013-07-30 03:23:26 PM

QueenMamaBee: demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: As a Kentuckian..... I would like to talk about Kentucky genocide. There are complete counties that just need to be wiped off the map.

Stay away from my kin.
/They are armed.

Let me guess...... Pike County?

Nope. Let me guess ... Fayette County?
/Or Bullitt?

No, I'm from Boyd County.... probably the only one in the county not selling meth.


Well, you and the federal prison guards (they're tested).
/No Jews there, either.
 
2013-07-30 03:26:47 PM

SilentStrider: Dear South,
You have been cordially invited to join the rest of the nation in the 21st century. It won't hurt you. We promise,


I think you mean 20th century.
 
2013-07-30 03:27:15 PM

QueenMamaBee: I was just guessing a county that's heavily armed :)


  I said my relatives are armed. (Isn't always easy to be a Jew in Kentucky, and we have looong memories.)  

I brought a Philly Jew to the Derby a few years ago, she couldn't understand a word my friend from Carter County said. I was like a translator all week.


Well, I swan. Why do you reckon?
 
2013-07-30 03:29:00 PM

BunkoSquad: Trivia Jockey: There are about 10,000 evolutionary biologists who read this and are wondering where all these rich evolutionsts are.

I bet they are rich, compared to droopy-eyed Kentuckians who lost their jobs because you just can't keep putting your hand in the fryolator and trying to catch a McNugget


OK, I laughed.  +1
 
2013-07-30 03:42:42 PM

Kahabut: Rwa2play: Weaver95: Have I mentioned lately how happy I am you don't see pagans doing this sort of nonsense?

At this point I see Satanists with much more common sense than the Evangelicals.

I'm not sure Satanists are rational, but maybe they have some common sense.  I'd point out though, that Satanists and Pagans have about as much in common as.... well they have almost nothing in common.

/pretty sure you know that
//still feel its required to say it
///the dumb, it's everywhere.


I met one self-described Satanist through a common-interest group many years ago.  Apparently he had had some very bad experiences with local church groups in his younger days (I don't know any details), and viewed Satanism as a way of rebelling against mainstream Christianity.

Unfortunately, he seemed to end up with the same kind of simplistic worldview that makes some Christian sects so harmful; he just chose to support the "other" side.  Last I heard, he was wanted by the FBI for some sort of computer-related crimes.
 
2013-07-30 03:44:41 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: As a Kentuckian..... I would like to talk about Kentucky genocide. There are complete counties that just need to be wiped off the map.

Stay away from my kin.
/They are armed.

Let me guess...... Pike County?

Nope. Let me guess ... Fayette County?
/Or Bullitt?

No, I'm from Boyd County.... probably the only one in the county not selling meth.

Well, you and the federal prison guards (they're tested).
/No Jews there, either.


We have a Jewish doctor, and I'm pretty sure he lives in this county. Sadly..... he's probably the only one.
 
2013-07-30 03:47:06 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: QueenMamaBee: I was just guessing a county that's heavily armed :)

  I said my relatives are armed. (Isn't always easy to be a Jew in Kentucky, and we have looong memories.)  

I brought a Philly Jew to the Derby a few years ago, she couldn't understand a word my friend from Carter County said. I was like a translator all week.


Well, I swan. Why do you reckon?


She understands me just fine, and I didn't think his accent was that much worse than mine. Apparently it is, or she's just used to me by now.
 
2013-07-30 03:50:50 PM
Nothing wrong with being anti-socialism but Jebus, at least have the slightest clue what socialism is. It's not just a buzzword for anything you don't like. Morons.
 
2013-07-30 03:51:07 PM

No Such Agency: FloydA:

But if people evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?



If God made man from dust, then why is there still dust?
 
2013-07-30 03:55:22 PM

Latinwolf: Egoy3k: Lots of apologists on fark and elsewhere get their panties in a wad about atheists actively trying to destroy religion. We aren't and we never have been but they believe that we are because after reading shiat like this who could blame us?

So you're claiming to speak for all atheists, when did you become their spokesperson?


I am claiming that atheists are not actively attempting to destroy religion.  That is not speaking for anyone that is a statement of fact about the actions of atheists.

If you really want to be a pedant then I'll amend my statement.

Lots of apologists on fark and elsewhere get their panties in a wad about atheists actively trying to destroy religion. We The vast and overwhelming majority of us aren't and never have been but they believe that we are because after reading shiat like this who could blame us?
 
2013-07-30 04:13:17 PM

Richard C Stanford: SilentStrider: Dear South,
You have been cordially invited to join the rest of the nation in the 21st century. It won't hurt you. We promise,

I think you mean 20th century.



Bleep that. I want these assholes dragged into the present. Kicking and screaming if need be. I'm tired if the South dragging the country down with their goddamned willful ignorance.
 
2013-07-30 04:19:04 PM
Timid Goddess:
If you descended from your Grandparents, why do you have cousins?

common sense is an oxymoron:
If God made man from dust, then why is there still dust?

Grandparents, or dust?  Science can't even agree!  Clearly the controversy must be taught.
 
2013-07-30 04:20:03 PM

SilentStrider: Richard C Stanford: SilentStrider: Dear South,
You have been cordially invited to join the rest of the nation in the 21st century. It won't hurt you. We promise,

I think you mean 20th century.

Bleep that. I want these assholes dragged into the present. Kicking and screaming if need be. I'm tired if the South dragging the country down with their goddamned willful ignorance.


Fark. The. South.

Lincoln could have prevented all those war dead and animosity by allowing the Soth to remain a backwards shiathole until it emploded on its own. By forcefully dragging them along all he did was sow the seeds of bitterness and martyrdom for them to believe they'll "rise again".

Fark them. Fark them HARD. Let them secede and form their own Jesusland. They're costing us more than their contributing. Cut them loose, like any other unprofitable business.

liberalbias.com
 
2013-07-30 04:26:07 PM

THE GREAT NAME: gnosis301: THE GREAT NAME: Climatology=rubbish, propoaganda dressed as science

Really?

Yes, it's true.


Really for realsies?  The whole science of climatology?
 
2013-07-30 04:26:31 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: If God made man from dust, then why is there still dust?


[His Dark Materials reference]
 
2013-07-30 04:39:10 PM
Another opponent, Dena Stewart-Gore, suggested that the standards will make religious students feel ostracized. "The way socialism works is it takes anybody that doesn't fit the mold and discards them," she said, per the The Courier-Journal. "We are even talking genocide and murder here, folks."

"Unless it's OUR mold! PRAISE JEBUS!!!"

Sibling farking morans
 
2013-07-30 04:42:26 PM
This provides me a small glimmer of hope that my kids might actually get a decent classroom education without me going broke.  I'm in Northern KY in the best school district in the area, which is one of the best ones in the state.  I'm still struggling with whether or not to shell out over $8,000 in tuition per kid per year for them to attend the only high quality private school in the area that isn't a religious school.  My oldest starts first grade in a couple of weeks.  We decided to give the public schools a chance, but I'm skeptical.  It's sad that a decent education requires that level of financial commitment.

I am encouraged by the fact that the people in power decided to adopt the standards.  The comments from the opposition make me want to pack up my family and run far, far away.  Doubly so since I can easily imagine my own parents saying many of those same things.
 
2013-07-30 04:47:58 PM

gnosis301: THE GREAT NAME: gnosis301: THE GREAT NAME: Climatology=rubbish, propoaganda dressed as science

Really?

Yes, it's true.

Really for realsies?  The whole science of climatology?


Yup, proper realisies. In fact it isn't even science. It's pseudoscience, like astrology and so on.
 
2013-07-30 04:49:57 PM

lohphat: SilentStrider: Richard C Stanford: SilentStrider: Dear South,
You have been cordially invited to join the rest of the nation in the 21st century. It won't hurt you. We promise,

I think you mean 20th century.

Bleep that. I want these assholes dragged into the present. Kicking and screaming if need be. I'm tired if the South dragging the country down with their goddamned willful ignorance.

Fark. The. South.

Lincoln could have prevented all those war dead and animosity by allowing the Soth to remain a backwards shiathole until it emploded on its own. By forcefully dragging them along all he did was sow the seeds of bitterness and martyrdom for them to believe they'll "rise again".

Fark them. Fark them HARD. Let them secede and form their own Jesusland. They're costing us more than their contributing. Cut them loose, like any other unprofitable business.

[liberalbias.com image 800x588]


Except that, had Lincoln done so, right now we'd be dealing with something akin to tribal Pakistan/Afghanistan and 30 million very pissed off descendants of slaves. The Southern States would have turned into a bloodbath within 20 years or so anyway. I've read one theory that the Slaves were already starting to organize and those little seeds of organization would likely have turned into a serious rebellion by 1890, especially in the light of the new weapons technology that was being developed, such things as the wheelgun and the lever action rifle. Nearly all of the blacksmiths in the South during the later Antebellum period were slaves, and blacksmithing is called the King of Trades for a reason. The author had some evidence for this, there were written notes found in the basements and cellars of the houses along the Underground Railroad, graffiti written in lampblack, written instructions on how to get to the next waystation. The slavefolk were starting to teach themselves to read and write, hiding messages and discussing what they had read amongst themselves. It was considered a felony to teach a black man to read back then.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
 
2013-07-30 05:03:31 PM

lohphat: Fark them. Fark them HARD. Let them secede and form their own Jesusland. They're costing us more than their contributing. Cut them loose, like any other unprofitable business.


Problem with that chart is they included federal employees' salaries as expenses.  So, a federal employee living in Virginia (there's a lot of those) is going to show up as a red state expense, even though he theoretically earns that salary by producing something that benefits the whole country.  Even if Virginia seceded, you'd just have to hire somebody else to do the same job, then your costs would shift.
 
2013-07-30 05:03:31 PM

Deathfrogg: lohphat: SilentStrider: Richard C Stanford: SilentStrider: Dear South,
You have been cordially invited to join the rest of the nation in the 21st century. It won't hurt you. We promise,

I think you mean 20th century.

Bleep that. I want these assholes dragged into the present. Kicking and screaming if need be. I'm tired if the South dragging the country down with their goddamned willful ignorance.

Fark. The. South.

Lincoln could have prevented all those war dead and animosity by allowing the Soth to remain a backwards shiathole until it emploded on its own. By forcefully dragging them along all he did was sow the seeds of bitterness and martyrdom for them to believe they'll "rise again".

Fark them. Fark them HARD. Let them secede and form their own Jesusland. They're costing us more than their contributing. Cut them loose, like any other unprofitable business.

[liberalbias.com image 800x588]

Except that, had Lincoln done so, right now we'd be dealing with something akin to tribal Pakistan/Afghanistan and 30 million very pissed off descendants of slaves. The Southern States would have turned into a bloodbath within 20 years or so anyway. I've read one theory that the Slaves were already starting to organize and those little seeds of organization would likely have turned into a serious rebellion by 1890, especially in the light of the new weapons technology that was being developed, such things as the wheelgun and the lever action rifle. Nearly all of the blacksmiths in the South during the later Antebellum period were slaves, and blacksmithing is called the King of Trades for a reason. The author had some evidence for this, there were written notes found in the basements and cellars of the houses along the Underground Railroad, graffiti written in lampblack, written instructions on how to get to the next waystation. The slavefolk were starting to teach themselves to read and write, hiding messages and discussing what they had read amongst themselves. It

was considered a felony to teach a black man to read back then.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.


The Bible preaches against knowledge.  In the very first book of the Bible, the moral of the Adam and Eve story is that having knowledge was a sin.
 
2013-07-30 05:06:01 PM

Deathfrogg: Except that, had Lincoln done so, right now we'd be dealing with something akin to tribal Pakistan/Afghanistan and 30 million very pissed off descendants of slaves. The Southern States would have turned into a bloodbath within 20 years or so anyway.


Better constrain the dead to the region than involve the young men of the north who had better lives and things to do with that life.

Perhaps the Sharia-like Babtist church would have died with them.
 
2013-07-30 05:07:35 PM

serial_crusher: lohphat: Fark them. Fark them HARD. Let them secede and form their own Jesusland. They're costing us more than their contributing. Cut them loose, like any other unprofitable business.

Problem with that chart is they included federal employees' salaries as expenses.  So, a federal employee living in Virginia (there's a lot of those) is going to show up as a red state expense, even though he theoretically earns that salary by producing something that benefits the whole country.  Even if Virginia seceded, you'd just have to hire somebody else to do the same job, then your costs would shift.


Gladly. I'd rather employ a person from a secular state than a sacred one.
 
2013-07-30 05:11:13 PM

THE GREAT NAME: In fact it isn't even science. It's pseudoscience, like astrology and so on.


LOL
 
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