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2013-07-30 09:25:32 AM  
Those vegan assholes make me want to root for the Japanese whalers.
 
2013-07-30 09:26:16 AM  
Ironically one of the reasons there are so many Somali pirates is because international fishing vessels overfished the sea around Somalia, destroyed their nets, and subsequently ruined the livelihood of the people in those port towns who were trying to recover from a massive drought.
 
2013-07-30 09:28:28 AM  
Being a pirate kind of implies that they know how to pilot a ship and have basic seafaring knowledge.
 
2013-07-30 09:29:50 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Being a pirate kind of implies that they know how to pilot a ship and have basic seafaring knowledge.


Float on water, crash into other ships,
Seems like it works.
 
2013-07-30 09:31:45 AM  

bdub77: Ironically one of the reasons there are so many Somali pirates is because international fishing vessels overfished the sea around Somalia, destroyed their nets, and subsequently ruined the livelihood of the people in those port towns who were trying to recover from a massive drought.


Stupid drought!
 
2013-07-30 09:35:24 AM  

Oldiron_79: Those vegan assholes make me want to root for the Japanese whalers.


Make you want to?  I've always rooted for the whalers.

The Sea Shepherds are little better than terrorists.

bdub77: Ironically one of the reasons there are so many Somali pirates is because international fishing vessels overfished the sea around Somalia, destroyed their nets, and subsequently ruined the livelihood of the people in those port towns who were trying to recover from a massive drought.


Yeah, keep believing that buillshiat.
 
2013-07-30 09:39:44 AM  

Oldiron_79: Those vegan assholes make me want to root for the Japanese whalers.


Almost this. I want to go out with a warship and sink everyone on both sides.
 
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2013-07-30 09:44:14 AM  

SevenizGud: Oldiron_79: Those vegan assholes make me want to root for the Japanese whalers.

Almost this. I want to go out with a warship and sink everyone on both sides.


I think it would be funny if they tried that crap with a naval vessel.
 
2013-07-30 09:45:55 AM  
Let's just say I am taking the analysis presented with a grain of salt. The authors are all deeply connected either to the security apparatus or the haven of derp that is the Heritage Foundation. To be honest if the Sea Shepherds rammed a ship with these doofuses on board and both sank and drowned everyone aboard, the world might end up a better place.
 
2013-07-30 09:48:42 AM  
static.guim.co.uk

/what a Sea Shepard may look like
//hot like flares
 
2013-07-30 09:50:35 AM  

gfid: Yeah, keep believing that buillshiat.


It's clear they only resort to piracy because they hate our freedom
 
2013-07-30 09:51:27 AM  
What always amazed me most about that show was how unbelievably unseaworthy the entire crew was.  OMG THERE ARE WAVES OUT HERE WTF
 
2013-07-30 09:51:38 AM  
As long as they stay away from endangered whale species, I could care less. Or at least no more than I care when someone butchers a free-range cow or kills a deer. Minke whales certainly have a healthy enough population that they can be sustainably hunted.

Sea Shepherd has done their cause vast harm in Japan.

/also, whale is farking delicious.
 
2013-07-30 09:53:50 AM  

gfid: Yeah, keep believing that buillshiat.


That's all you got? Your argument is "That's bullsh*t?" DEBATE FAIL.
 
2013-07-30 09:53:51 AM  
How I think of Sea Shepard
www.freecodesource.com

/That's Captian Jack Swallows, by the way
 
2013-07-30 09:57:08 AM  

DubtodaIll: What always amazed me most about that show was how unbelievably unseaworthy the entire crew was.  OMG THERE ARE WAVES OUT HERE WTF


I seem to recall watching an episode where they sank their speedboat the first time they put it in the water.
 
2013-07-30 09:57:59 AM  
When those douche bags are attacked by the whalers, I'll watch.
Good show, sunk in one. Back to Gilligan re-runs.
 
2013-07-30 09:58:09 AM  

Oldiron_79: Those vegan assholes make me want to root for the Japanese whalers.


I'm the same way.  I spend the entire show hoping every ship ends up at the bottom of the ocean.
 
2013-07-30 09:58:55 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: DubtodaIll: What always amazed me most about that show was how unbelievably unseaworthy the entire crew was.  OMG THERE ARE WAVES OUT HERE WTF

I seem to recall watching an episode where they sank their speedboat the first time they put it in the water.


It seems the whales are screwed.
 
2013-07-30 10:02:25 AM  
Pirates?  Maybe I haven't watched the show recently enough, but as I recall from a few years ago their SOP seemed to be "bumbling idiots engaged in a prank war."
 
2013-07-30 10:07:25 AM  
Not really a fan of whalers. But those Sea Shepherd people are assholes.

/tl;dr
 
2013-07-30 10:08:19 AM  
If you had a tranquilizer dart gun full of a medical radioactive tracer element like they give people with heart problems, and you shot a harpooned whale, you could claim it was for science.

You could then show up at the right fish market in Japan with a Geiger counter and a local TV news crew and end whaling in Japan forever.

Or you could be a bunch of vegan useless hippies.

Real men solve problems and this one is trivial.
 
2013-07-30 10:21:03 AM  
i.imgur.com

/ma ma ma ma
 
2013-07-30 10:25:54 AM  
Is the "Sea Shephard society" related in any way to the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society?
 
2013-07-30 10:25:55 AM  

DON.MAC: If you had a tranquilizer dart gun full of a medical radioactive tracer element like they give people with heart problems, and you shot a harpooned whale, you could claim it was for science.

You could then show up at the right fish market in Japan with a Geiger counter and a local TV news crew and end whaling in Japan forever.

Or you could be a bunch of vegan useless hippies.

Real men solve problems and this one is trivial.


After Fukushima, Nagasaki, and Hiroshima, anime, hentai, ecchi, and tentacle pr0n, I don't think the Japanese are worried about glowing in the dark.
 
2013-07-30 10:27:03 AM  
The funniest part of the article is where the author says that the Sea Shephards have "been fairly effective".

Effective at making me laugh, granted.
 
2013-07-30 10:27:44 AM  
Oh yeah.  Bring it.
i175.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-30 10:30:44 AM  

bdub77: gfid: Yeah, keep believing that buillshiat.

That's all you got? Your argument is "That's bullsh*t?" DEBATE FAIL.


Yeah, I'll wait for you or others to make their case for the justification of Somali piracy, then I'll refute it.

What's that I hear?  Crickets?  Crickets claiming it's all someone else's fault?  Yeah, I thought so.

Why'd they pick on Somalia?  Is that the best fishing spot in the world?  Do other African countries have navies that could stop the evil invaders?
 
2013-07-30 10:34:01 AM  
When will SyFy finally make the movie we've all been waiting for?

You know.  The one where the whales rise up and destroy BOTH the Japanese whalehunters AND the Sea Shephard crew?

That way, EVERYONE wins.
 
2013-07-30 10:37:08 AM  

DubtodaIll: What always amazed me most about that show was how unbelievably unseaworthy the entire crew was.  OMG THERE ARE WAVES OUT HERE WTF


Yup, I watch it to see how many ways they almost kill themselves. Their biggest threat to the whalers is that the whaling crews will be injured by laughter.
 
2013-07-30 10:41:11 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: I seem to recall watching an episode where they sank their speedboat the first time they put it in the water.


i560.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-30 10:41:51 AM  
It's really only a matter of time before Japan gets all...

images.bwbx.io
 
2013-07-30 10:42:26 AM  
The_Gallant_Gallstone:
gfid: Yeah, keep believing that buillshiat.

It's clear they only resort to piracy because they hate our freedom


Well they are Attractive and Successful African-Americans.  They can't possibly have a rational or explainable reason for shifting their livelihood from fishing to armed piracy.  Clearly they must just be violent lunatic ape-people and this has nothing to do with any bullshiat eco-loony nonsense.  Also, oil is an abiotic renewable resource that will replenish itself as fast as we use it, and climate change is just a way for scienticians to get rich.
 
2013-07-30 10:48:00 AM  

bdub77: Ironically one of the reasons there are so many Somali pirates is because international fishing vessels overfished the sea around Somalia, destroyed their nets, and subsequently ruined the livelihood of the people in those port towns who were trying to recover from a massive drought.


Really?  I thought the story/bullshiat claim was that the Somalis were all protesting with piracy over illegal pollution dumping off their coast.
 
2013-07-30 10:51:50 AM  
CSB time!

A few years back when I was still working for the US Antarctic program, I was riding on the ASR/V Nathanial B. Palmer and happened to be up around 4:00 AM or so - I think I was working midnight till noon on that cruise. Anyhow, this time I was up happened to be prior to the science cruise on board actually starting, so there was really nothing going on (on our ship, at least). I ended up heading to the bridge and saying hi to the mate working and just hanging out up there because there wasn't a whole lot else to do. Well, a little while goes by and the mate picks up the binos on the bridge and looks off in the distance. She hands me the binos and says look over there - and points. Well, lo and behold, in the middle of nowhere of the Ross Sea there is another ship. I go to look at the radar and yes, indeed, it is another ship. But there is no AIS coming off of her (this is illegal) and she's painted all black. There are few, if any running lights on and she's not responding to any hails (at this point in time, the mate on duty is repeatedly hailing the other ship on all frequencies). As the random ship is in our general direction of travel, we keep heading that way because that's the way we need to go. We get to about ~3 miles from her and everything on board the mystery ship comes alive and she starts making a run at us! Our mate on duty panics a bit - not that I blame her because here's another ship in the middle of the Antarctic ocean that just suddenly powered up and is now heading right at us. Finally they get on the radio and start talking with our mate and it turns out that it's these retards thought we were a whaling vessel (mind you, the USAP runs 2 vessels for research, neither of which have ever been involved in whaling, and are rather... well, recognizable due to their flying the US flag and paint scheme - orange hulls with creme upper decks). They turn to and then try to pass on our starboard side - a huge no no in the ocean going community. These guys then have the gall to ask us if we've seen any whaling ships and if we do, please pass on the information to them. I don't think our mate replied. The end.
 
2013-07-30 10:59:56 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: bdub77: Ironically one of the reasons there are so many Somali pirates is because international fishing vessels overfished the sea around Somalia, destroyed their nets, and subsequently ruined the livelihood of the people in those port towns who were trying to recover from a massive drought.

Really?  I thought the story/bullshiat claim was that the Somalis were all protesting with piracy over illegal pollution dumping off their coast.


No, but the illegal dumping part happened.
 
2013-07-30 11:01:44 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: bdub77: Ironically one of the reasons there are so many Somali pirates is because international fishing vessels overfished the sea around Somalia, destroyed their nets, and subsequently ruined the livelihood of the people in those port towns who were trying to recover from a massive drought.

Really?  I thought the story/bullshiat claim was that the Somalis were all protesting with piracy over illegal pollution dumping off their coast.


Why not both?

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1892376,00.html

gfid: What's that I hear?  Crickets?  Crickets claiming it's all someone else's fault?  Yeah, I thought so.


For you because you're an idiot.
 
2013-07-30 11:05:23 AM  

McShen: A few years back...


These guys are all clowns. This is my favorite video of their attempts at helicopter operations.
 
2013-07-30 11:19:20 AM  
Pirates?  How in all of Hades are these people not declared terrorists?
 
2013-07-30 11:20:56 AM  

bdub77: Ironically one of the reasons there are so many Somali pirates is because international fishing vessels overfished the sea around Somalia, destroyed their nets, and subsequently ruined the livelihood of the people in those port towns who were trying to recover from a massive drought.



img.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-30 11:25:04 AM  

DON.MAC: If you had a tranquilizer dart gun full of a medical radioactive tracer element like they give people with heart problems, and you shot a harpooned whale, you could claim it was for science.

You could then show up at the right fish market in Japan with a Geiger counter and a local TV news crew and end whaling in Japan forever.


How would that end whaling?
 
2013-07-30 11:27:39 AM  

Mock26: Pirates?  How in all of Hades are these people not declared terrorists?


Because this

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-30 11:31:31 AM  

inert: Mock26: Pirates?  How in all of Hades are these people not declared terrorists?

Because this

[i.imgur.com image 510x680]


Needs more Captain Morgan rum.
 
2013-07-30 11:37:51 AM  
 According to Roger Middleton of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_House" title="Chatham House">Chatham House, "The problem of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overfishing" title="Overfishing">overfishing and illegal fishing in Somali waters is a very serious one, and does affect the livelihoods of people inside Somalia [...] the dumping of toxic waste on Somalia's shores is a very serious issue, which will continue to affect people in Somalia long after the war has ended, and piracy is resolved."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_in_Somalia#cite_note-132 ">
 
2013-07-30 11:46:05 AM  
piracy is a rational choice for ex warlords and gangsters. so much more profitable than fishing, farming, or begging from Europeans.

/qq moar about the noble savage in Africa.
 
2013-07-30 11:51:43 AM  

legion_of_doo: piracy is a rational choice for ex warlords and gangsters. so much more profitable than fishing, farming, or begging from Europeans.

/qq moar about the noble savage in Africa.


you are a fisherman and live on the coast. Foreign boats with better equipment come and catch all the fish, then the Italian mafia dumps radioactive waste in your waters, what do you do? starve? go inland into the war zone? or go and hold captive those who stole your livelihood?

now it has changed after the warlords realized the money the fishermen were getting and made it into a business but it didn't start that way
 
2013-07-30 12:00:33 PM  
Similarly, Sea Shepherd relies heavily on an ad hoc assembled unpaid multi-national crew motivated by more than a paycheck or patriotism.  Sea Shepherd draws upon a diverse pool of international volunteers while state navies rely upon either conscripts or paid "volunteers."

This reads as "the otherwise unemployable."
 
2013-07-30 12:02:57 PM  

Uncle Tractor: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: I seem to recall watching an episode where they sank their speedboat the first time they put it in the water.

[i560.photobucket.com image 640x567]


from the FA:
"Captain Pete Bethune of the  Ady Gil claimed that Watson told him to sink his boat in January 2010 after an incident with Japanese whalers to generate media interest.  This incident caused a rift between the two personalities which drove Bethune to develop his own direct action maritime conservation group."

Also it is implied that they intentionality sail like idiots so they can ram other ships and then just say "Oops"
 
2013-07-30 12:04:35 PM  

zedster: legion_of_doo: piracy is a rational choice for ex warlords and gangsters. so much more profitable than fishing, farming, or begging from Europeans.

/qq moar about the noble savage in Africa.

you are a fisherman and live on the coast. Foreign boats with better equipment come and catch all the fish, then the Italian mafia dumps radioactive waste in your waters, what do you do? starve? go inland into the war zone? or go and hold captive those who stole your livelihood?

now it has changed after the warlords realized the money the fishermen were getting and made it into a business but it didn't start that way


there is still free will and choice in there. life sucks, so be a pirate?

blacks as eternal victims of circumstance is paternalistic, and contributes to the ongoing degradation of people of color, IMO.
 
2013-07-30 12:05:50 PM  

McShen: CSB time!

A few years back when I was still working for the US Antarctic program, I was riding on the ASR/V Nathanial B. Palmer and happened to be up around 4:00 AM or so - I think I was working midnight till noon on that cruise. Anyhow, this time I was up happened to be prior to the science cruise on board actually starting, so there was really nothing going on (on our ship, at least). I ended up heading to the bridge and saying hi to the mate working and just hanging out up there because there wasn't a whole lot else to do. Well, a little while goes by and the mate picks up the binos on the bridge and looks off in the distance. She hands me the binos and says look over there - and points. Well, lo and behold, in the middle of nowhere of the Ross Sea there is another ship. I go to look at the radar and yes, indeed, it is another ship. But there is no AIS coming off of her (this is illegal) and she's painted all black. There are few, if any running lights on and she's not responding to any hails (at this point in time, the mate on duty is repeatedly hailing the other ship on all frequencies). As the random ship is in our general direction of travel, we keep heading that way because that's the way we need to go. We get to about ~3 miles from her and everything on board the mystery ship comes alive and she starts making a run at us! Our mate on duty panics a bit - not that I blame her because here's another ship in the middle of the Antarctic ocean that just suddenly powered up and is now heading right at us. Finally they get on the radio and start talking with our mate and it turns out that it's these retards thought we were a whaling vessel (mind you, the USAP runs 2 vessels for research, neither of which have ever been involved in whaling, and are rather... well, recognizable due to their flying the US flag and paint scheme - orange hulls with creme upper decks). They turn to and then try to pass on our starboard side - a huge no no in the ocean going community. T ...


Yeah, it's stories like this that make me hate the Sea Shepherds and I'm actually inclined to be on the side of the environment, but when they go full outlaw, well fark them.  You should have told them there were whaling ships in a field of icebergs.
 
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