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2013-07-30 02:25:32 AM
4 votes:
www.thecampuscompanion.com

I honestly believe nuclear power is the future.

But things like this are constant reminders that we are not ready yet.

With management enthusiastically demanding greater profit and production, knowing the only way to get that is cutting corners and flouting OHS laws, and taking comfort in knowing someone lower down the chain will give the order, because your only input was "I don't care how you do it, just deliver results!"... we simply cannot give this generation nuclear power plants.  Bad things WILL happen.  Workers and civilians DIE CONSTANTLY at coal/oil/gas plants.  And we think if we give these same managers a nuclear plant, they will suddenly change their ways and say "Okay, THIS time, no cutting corners"?
2013-07-30 01:03:27 AM
3 votes:
How much you want to bet that we will see a similar list of safety concerns to the plant in West Texas? I just have an odd feeling that Republican lead states don't care too much about the safety of the people (or much else regarding the general welfare of those people, unless they're obscenely wealthy)

/I hope the casualties are minimal
//hope something will be learned from this and applied before the next possibly preventable accident
2013-07-30 12:24:19 AM
3 votes:
24.media.tumblr.com

/Damn that really sucks
//What's up with these plants exploding?
2013-07-30 07:47:41 AM
2 votes:
Serves blue rhino right for putting 15 lbs in 25 lb tank.
2013-07-30 02:55:32 AM
2 votes:

Mark Ratner: Why can't they just air drop some dirt or water on it? Hose that shiat down. Do your job, firefighters.


If the fire is from structures and other materials burning, yes put it out.  If the fire is from a damaged tank venting gas, protect the exposures and let it burn itself out.  Last thing you need is to put out the fire coming from the tank and then have the atmosphere full of a very explosive mix of fuel and air.
2013-07-30 02:33:32 AM
2 votes:

weltallica: I honestly believe nuclear power is the future.


Then you haven't been paying attention. Electricity doesn't fly 747s across the Atlantic in 6 hours, it doesn't provide feedstock for hundreds of thousands of chemical processes, and it doesn't store well.

weltallica: But things like this are constant reminders that we are not ready yet.


We need massive, MASSIVE social and personal change. We can start by diagnosing what you describe as a mental illness.
2013-07-30 01:22:02 AM
2 votes:
Business is booming in Florida as well.
2013-07-30 01:18:59 AM
2 votes:
Luckily it was the Blue Rhino plant, so it was only about 3/4 full.
2013-07-30 12:55:05 AM
2 votes:
Good to see some lessons from West, TX being applied so quickly, that firefighters are keeping defensive positions and only moving in so far as they are certain they can get pulled back out. Hopefully casualties can still be kept to a minimum.
2013-07-30 12:49:10 AM
2 votes:
"Scores of people lined [the waterfront] to watch."

This is not a repeat from 1917 Halifax.
2013-07-30 08:38:33 AM
1 votes:

Oldiron_79: Bravo Two: She's alight, she's alight, she's alight....propane....

/got nothin
//Eric Clapton's gonna grill me.

For not knowing that song is a cover.


R.I.P., JJ.  I've got that farking Chuck Mangione song stuck in my head, thanks to this thread...
2013-07-30 08:37:06 AM
1 votes:

LineNoise: I just wanted to come in here and say, I had a hamburger cooked on a propane grill last weekend, and am still literally shaking after hearing this.


www.markstivers.com
2013-07-30 08:26:05 AM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: Bathia_Mapes: ThatDarkFellow: Why did the trucks explode? Was this intentional or am I missing a part of the story?

From what they're saying on the live feed is that the semis near the plant were full of empty propane tanks, the kind you use with a propane barbeque, but that there's enough residue inside each one of them to make them explosive. One of the things the plant does is fill those propane tanks.


FACTOID: Those barbecue tanks are designed to hold 20 lbs. If you take it to a local refiller, they'll fill it to 20 lbs.

Blue Rhino has been steadily reducing the amount of propane that it puts in these tanks for years: They're down to 15 lbs now - 25% below capacity, because they know consumers are suckers who don't check the label and pay the price.

No, you're not getting stronger, that Blue Rhino propane tank is getting lighter.


When we used a propane grill we were fortunate enough to buy one that came with the bottle and never exchanged it just took it down the street to our local place and they filled it. Fortunate enough I came across another tank to have as a backup. We still have the tanks but ditched our grill and went with a charcoal grill. At one time I worked at a C-store that refilled bottles whether it be the small ones or the big ones someone had rigged up in their pickup for a fuel source. At that time they had just started requiring all bottles to have the OPV. If it didn't have it no fill unless they took it to a certified dealer and got the valve replaced. And when I filled the bottles I never skimped on the propane. If you brought in a tank, I hooked up the line and filled it until the OPV kicked in. Good thing about that you couldn't over fill them and the customers would ask for me when I was working because the other workers would set the bottles on a scale and cut off the gas long before it got full.

/Took one time for me to learn to have my gloves on when I went to disconnect the line. Worse than those little bottles of butane you use to refill a lighter.
2013-07-30 06:35:47 AM
1 votes:

Marine1: AverageAmericanGuy: Seriously though, we should be focused on getting ourselves off of fossil fuels. They are dangerous and polluting.

We need to start thinking about how we can move towards a majority of our power needs coming from renewables and not from fossil fuels.

Pssh. And then what... live in some sort of society where we don't have to worry about this crap anymore?

/but but teh jerbs!


Yeah! What if Global Warming turns out to be a hoax, and we've built a better world for nothing?
2013-07-30 05:48:42 AM
1 votes:
I like the part of the news where they tell us all about how AAA is trying something new giving discounts at lots of florida recreational parks.  Mmm, informative.
Marketing will end us all.

I just used blue rhino for the first time just last week, now this.  I had nothing to do with it of course, I mean, sure it sounds more suspicious that I feel I have to say so since you probably didn't consider it before I said something but look, don't be paranoid I just wanted some gas for my grill and did an exchange instead of getting it filled at the local gas station this time, it's just a coincidence.

Hope everyone comes through okay.
2013-07-30 03:34:28 AM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: Repair / re-certify or replace?

Cost / benefit analysis.

Think of tire dumps...


2.bp.blogspot.com
2013-07-30 02:55:29 AM
1 votes:
Does this mean gas is gonna go up another 50 cents?
2013-07-30 02:51:29 AM
1 votes:
What happens when propane tanks BLEVE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic-YJYb7xL8
2013-07-30 02:33:44 AM
1 votes:
I honestly believe nuclear power is the future.
But things like this are constant reminders that we are not ready yet.



I agree. The last thing we need is one of these guys

moviesmedia.ign.com
2013-07-30 02:22:45 AM
1 votes:
sharetv.org
2013-07-30 02:10:06 AM
1 votes:
I'll tell ya what, seems like too much of this going on lately. Huh.
2013-07-30 02:02:26 AM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x339]

/Damn that really sucks
//What's up with these plants exploding?


It finally happened. I knew Megalomart was only the beginning...
2013-07-30 01:58:38 AM
1 votes:
Where moo-thane comes from:

big.assets.huffingtonpost.com
2013-07-30 01:48:30 AM
1 votes:
Damn.

i.imgur.com

Some of the pics in the comments from TFA look like Land of the Lost shiat.
2013-07-30 01:47:42 AM
1 votes:
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

RIP BOYS-IN-BLUE RHINOS
2013-07-30 01:42:48 AM
1 votes:
Damn. I hope those missing people actually made it out.
2013-07-30 01:42:06 AM
1 votes:
I don't know how people can work in those plants anymore. These things are going up left and right.

/ not to forget mass transit accidents.

J+M+J
2013-07-30 01:38:22 AM
1 votes:

bluorangefyre: Let's see... fifty-three thousand tanks at twenty pounds each... wow.  BUT there's no idea what percentage of that were filled or empty.

But still, all that LP is like one, maybe two Saturn V rockets blowing up.


Going by what what the live feed said earlier even the empty ones are dangerous because there's still propane residue in them.
2013-07-30 01:32:23 AM
1 votes:
image1.frequency.com

"Hey man, this 911? I neen'ya here tho' Pro-Pane Plant, man, go big BOOM! Man, ther's a fire in thay. And it don', dad-gum, dat-ca-b-b ... BLOW'D everywhere, man. I dunno, sum'n, eat'n man b'runnin' out there, man, I dunno if he dig, Dan Marino gon' be comin' down here, buh ... "

"Sir, you are going to have to speak more slowly. I cannot understand you."

"Dang ... o' ... Pro-Pane ... Plant ... at ... talk bout ... dem-ol' ... then it ... BOOM!"
2013-07-30 01:30:20 AM
1 votes:
blackparadisemusic.files.wordpress.com

Wanted for questioning.
2013-07-30 01:30:14 AM
1 votes:

asciidic: I used to work right by that plant. Yep, there is an 84 Lumber next to it. My uncle's one of the firefighters on the scene. Doesn't look like fun.


Hope your uncle (and all the law enforcement and emergency personnel on scene) stay safe...
2013-07-30 01:29:14 AM
1 votes:

dugitman: digitalrain: This Sheriff spokesman has his shiat together, that's for certain.

no kidding. dude's even rattling off numbers about tank volume and stuff.


Yep. And if he doesn't know something, he's letting people know who to contact to get the info they need.
2013-07-30 01:24:50 AM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: Blue Rhino has been steadily reducing the amount of propane that it puts in these tanks for years: They're down to 15 lbs now - 25% below capacity, because they know consumers are suckers who don't check the label and pay the price.


Guess I don't feel so bad now about trading my newish 'old' tank that had a valve like the top of the picture for a blue rhino with a valve like the bottom half, the year they started requiring the latter for refilling

www.naturalhandyman.com
2013-07-30 01:22:00 AM
1 votes:

simkatu: Emergency scanner says 22 unaccounted for people now


Per the WESH feed, they say 15 are unaccounted for.  Guess we'll know soon enough.  Eech, horrible either way.
2013-07-30 01:19:42 AM
1 votes:

DeadGeek: digitalrain: DeadGeek: Now a landfill has exploded?

Huh? Linky please?

Just heard in the audio from the Fark link.


Holy crow. Is there really a lumber yard near the plant? I've seen several Farkers mention it.
2013-07-30 01:16:37 AM
1 votes:

bluorangefyre: I heard a larger tank was also obliterated.


i.imgur.com
2013-07-30 01:12:10 AM
1 votes:
So, I live near by where all this is going on. There was a steady stream of small explosions. I couldn't see the flames from here but you can hear it every time there is an explosion. I honestly thought it was a bit of heat lightning until neighbors came outside and the phone calls around town put it all together. At first we thought maybe a plane crashed at the Leesburg airport.
2013-07-30 01:08:29 AM
1 votes:

DarkSoulNoHope: How much you want to bet that we will see a similar list of safety concerns to the plant in West Texas? I just have an odd feeling that Republican lead states don't care too much about the safety of the people (or much else regarding the general welfare of those people, unless they're obscenely wealthy)

/I hope the casualties are minimal
//hope something will be learned from this and applied before the next possibly preventable accident


How much you want to bet some weapons-grade douchenozzle will come in to this conversation wanting to inject politics when there's no farking reason to do so?
2013-07-30 01:04:22 AM
1 votes:
Not surprised at all.
I worked on Delta IV in California and watched from a distance as an untrained delivery driver used a steel hammer to free a frozen LH2 fitting. Had to yell at him using the facility PA system to tell him to stop and leave the area. Lucky he didn't kill us all. No surprise that it's one of the many reasons I don't work there anymore.
2013-07-30 12:59:40 AM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: wouldn't have happened if they went solar.


Unfortunately, it was at night. No dice.
2013-07-30 12:53:40 AM
1 votes:
That plant aint right...
2013-07-30 12:53:28 AM
1 votes:
She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie, propane.
2013-07-30 12:49:18 AM
1 votes:

Hollie Maea: This was almost me a few weeks ago. We had one (of 24) Silane exhaust lines go.  Shook the whole damn building.  If the main Silane store had gone, it would have blown us all to hell.


Intel fab?
2013-07-30 12:41:27 AM
1 votes:
It's getting worse.
2013-07-30 12:40:39 AM
1 votes:
5 gallon grill tanks are dancing like those ground flower fireworks

/if I were a firefighter, I wouldn't go near that
2013-07-30 12:28:04 AM
1 votes:
This was almost me a few weeks ago. We had one (of 24) Silane exhaust lines go.  Shook the whole damn building.  If the main Silane store had gone, it would have blown us all to hell.
2013-07-30 12:19:46 AM
1 votes:
A night shift crew was working, and many people are thought to have been killed, said Lt. John Herrell, a Lake County Sheriff's Office spokesman.

Crap.
 
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