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(USA Today)   NYC fast food workers demand their companies charge $4 for a cheeseburger   (usatoday.com) divider line 38
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2013-07-29 09:44:32 PM
6 votes:

ThatDarkFellow: 7.25 is too low, yes. 15 is ridiculous, though. There are people who work jobs that require an actual skill or education that can't even find work for 15/hr right now.


Why is $15 ridiculous, especially in a major city with a high cost of life like NYC?  I do agree that more skilled professions should be paid even more.  Don't look at it as McDonalds employees asking to be overpaid, look at it as people finally starting to stand up to our current reality of record corporate profits and historically high wage inequality.  All non-executive employees should be demanding more pay.

As to the headline, McDonalds is welcome to charge $4 for a cheesburger, and they'll be pushed out of the market if they do.  It's time to take some of those huge profits and put them towards employee wages - the people at the top end take a little bit less of the pie and give the people who actually do the work their fare share.
2013-07-29 10:12:58 PM
5 votes:

MBK: How about not paying their CEOs millions of dollars to...

What exactly DO CEOs do?

I mean for a company like McDonalds.  You are pretty much one of the most recognizable symbols in the world.  Your food is sold all over the place.  You introduce a new burger every year.

What the fark does a CEO do that requires millions of dollars?


Sit on boards that vote on CEO pay?
2013-07-30 03:07:40 AM
3 votes:
I think the minimum wage should be whatever it would take for a person to support themselves plus 1 or 2 dependents in whatever location they live.  It's ridiculous to have people working 40 hours per week and still not able to support themselves.  I don't give a shiat what their education level is, if they're working full time, they should be able to afford a safe place to live (meaning no roaches or other vermin and it has heat in the winter where it's cold and a/c if it's a hot climate), food to eat, clothes without holes to wear, and other essentials.  If we have CEO's with enough money to wipe their asses with $100 bills, we should at least have the people who want and can work supporting themselves without welfare or the need for help.  The homes won't be mansions and maybe they'll have to take a bus instead of a car, but I find it shameful for it to be otherwise.

Not everyone can or should go to college, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to live independently.
2013-07-30 06:48:16 AM
2 votes:

ThatDarkFellow: 7.25 is too low, yes. 15 is ridiculous, though. There are people who work jobs that require an actual skill or education that can't even find work for 15/hr right now.


What is ridiculous is that companies pay people low wages to do crap jobs. In a reasonable, logical world, people should be offered more to do jobs nobody wants to do to compensate them for the trouble. This is how broken and topsy-turvy our world is.
2013-07-30 03:32:33 AM
2 votes:
"The workers' actions will lift up all of New York City," he said. "If they have more money in their pockets, they'll spend it right here, helping to boost the entire economy."

Doubling the minimum wage would have a "significant effect on the private sector's ability to create jobs, especially those typically filled by first-time workers and teens," said Scott DeFife of the National Restaurant Association. McDonald's had directed requests for comment to the trade group.


The sad thing is, they're both right. A lot of fast food places are franchised, meaning 'leased' by a private citizen. He handles all of the costs and follows all of the rules and needs to show a profit for himself and the company. Most already work on a thin margin. Increase the wages and many will wind up cutting workers hours or raised the cost of the product.

The latter will chase away customers who show up depending on the cheap food.

I worked for a subcontractor for a multimillion dollar company. They kept screwing with his bottom line until he had enough and refused any more changes. So, they put his contract up for bid and he lost the area.

After several years of hard work and a couple of hundred thousand dollars out of his pocket, he barely broke even in the end.

Remember, business has changed. Thanks to the Yuppies and their get rich quick investment ideology, companies which got by well on a narrow margin, but produced steadily for decades, suddenly had to show big profits or the yuppies dumped their stocks.

That started companies dumping long term employees, closing branches and, since this was during a recession, outsourcing over seas. So, the Yuppies made their millions but helped put hundreds of thousands out of work doing so and helped create basically a hostile working environment. It was the 'I got mine, screw you' 80's.

That started a host of self serving programs and practices which enriched the wealthy, but made you poor. The limit on federal interest rates somehow got made illegal and places fell all over themselves jacking them up. Little pay roll loan companies popped up, charging high interest normally but make one mistake and you wind up paying back 500% on your original 'loan'. Previously, only loan sharks did that and it was illegal.

I'm not real sure exactly what convinced companies to hire on CEOs for millions a year, plus millions in Golden Parachutes and perks like you wouldn't believe. The CEO of our hospital makes a million a year. The hospital pays for his home, his kids private school education, his health insurance and his cars. If he gets fired, he has a guaranteed multi-million severance package, along with any accumulated unused vacation pay and sick time. Plus he owns stock in the corporation.

Yet, the hospital has cut staff so many times that it's hard to get good treatment there. It's constantly in need of money.

So, you raise the minimum wage. Good idea. However, for many small businesses, it's going to hurt their, profit margin. Many have already dropped health care insurance on employees because they can't afford the high premium co-pay. The 39 hour week came in to prevent employees from making overtime, getting benefits or any special perks full time workers got.

Everything went up in cost, except the worker pay. Beef, pork and chicken have soared in cost, for reasons I can't sufficiently explain.

Yet, we're popping out new billionaires at a record rate.

Fuel prices are high and they're going to stay high because your major financial institutions invested heavily in oil, meaning it is NOT in their interest if the barrel rate drops. Then they'll loose money.

Other clever con artists snatch the majority of the corn crop for fuel making, which increased food costs across the board, and no one mentioned that the same fuel could be made from nearly any for of vegetable matter. A plant being built here will be making alcohol fuel from yard waste, crop waste and lot clearing and has contracted with several cities to take all they can provide.

So why was it necessary to steal the corn and raise the cost of food to make something that could have been made basically with garbage?

I wonder who invested in food futures?

These folks need a raise. There are few perks in the fast food business. If you're lucky, your boss will allow you to eat there for free. KFC used to allow employees to take home left over chicken at the end of the day. (Well, probably until the cook started deliberately making more than needed so they could take more home.)

The cooking areas are hot and crowded. Everything has to be kept neat and clean. Often you can't take a break and rest after being on your feet for hours. A lot of customers will give you shiat basically because they can. The hours are long and the rewards are few.

Check out Youtube. You can find videos of people starting shiat with the employees over basically nothing and getting into fights.

Increase the wages much, even though deserved, and the company will increase the cost of the product, which will chase customers away, meaning profits will fall, so employees will be fired and the remaining ones have to work harder, so the food prices will drop and bring the customers back.

I don't have a solution.
2013-07-30 03:25:11 AM
2 votes:

bhcompy: After mandatory dues, initiation, etc, my somewhat reasonable looking wage would have been less than minimum wage for the first few months on the job


As a current Teamster, let me just say, bullshiat. Union scale for UPS, here, is around $25 an hour to work on the freight dock. After paying $60-$70 for your union card(one time fee) and your $60 a month in dues, I assure you, you're nowhere near being paid minimum wage.
2013-07-30 03:03:29 AM
2 votes:

untaken_name: TuteTibiImperes: Why is $15 ridiculous, especially in a major city with a high cost of life like NYC?

Because the money to pay the workers has to come from somewhere, and that's going to be the customers. When prices rise higher than people want to pay, people will stop buying fast food and then all those fast-food workers will get $0/hr. Will that make their situation better? Also, raising the minimum wage has traditionally resulted in increased prices of basic goods and services, leading to minimum-wage workers being hardest-hit, as they must use the largest percentage of their pay of any class of worker for those basic goods and services. In other words, when your food budget is 5% of your total budget, a price increase of 20% is not terribly damaging. However, when your food budget is 20% of your total budget, it's a much bigger hit. This leads to minimum-wage workers actually being negatively impacted by rises in the minimum wage. It isn't the CEOs who will be harmed by price increases. They can withstand them easily. It will be the very workers who pushed for increasing the minimum wage in the first place that will be harmed the most by it. That's one of the little ironies of life.


So, legislate CEO salary caps slaved to the lowest paying position in the company. Ta-da.
2013-07-30 02:10:25 AM
2 votes:

propasaurus: Great Janitor: There is not enough money in the world that would get me to unionize

Yeah, Imma go ahead and call bullshiat.


I second that Bullshiat.
2013-07-30 02:06:58 AM
2 votes:

Great Janitor: There is not enough money in the world that would get me to unionize


Yeah, Imma go ahead and call bullshiat.
2013-07-30 01:52:16 AM
2 votes:
I'm going to go out on a sturdy limb and say that the world would be a better place if McDonald's burgers cost $4.
2013-07-30 01:20:00 AM
2 votes:

ThatDarkFellow: 7.25 is too low, yes. 15 is ridiculous, though. There are people who work jobs that require an actual skill or education that can't even find work for 15/hr right now.


Everyone should make a living wage. I also agree with you.

Occasionally I get e-mails about open positions from recruiters. I have a background in graphic design. I got one recently for a copy editor with experience using InDesign and it paid $12/hour. Another job was a graphic design job, required experience in graphic design and Adobe Creative suite. That one paid $14/hr. (Both of those are in the Dallas/Ft Worth area.) That's what I was paid at my entry-level job... about 12 years ago. What the hell happened to wages? (And living on those wages is do-able in Dallas but it would still be difficult. I can't imagine what it would be like to live on those wages in NYC.)
2013-07-29 10:34:45 PM
2 votes:
ThatDarkFellow:

I don't think pay should be scaled to the location of where you live. Otherwise I'd be on a beach condo in Malibu. I'm not saying the guys don't need a pay increase, but they definitely don't deserve more than people who have worked on backgrounds and skills after high school.

Yeah, regional adjustments for pay are pretty much par for the course for everything but minimum wage jobs.  Sure, you get paid more if you work in SF, NYC, or Malibu, but the higher costs for rent, food, taxes, etc, eat up the majority of that difference.  Earning $60K a year in Tampa lets you live pretty large, that same amount in Manhattan means a 1 bedroom or  studio apartment and a cupboard full of ramen.

Like I said, I don't think that those with skills and degrees should be paid less than fast food workers, I just think the minimum wage is way too low, especially for jobs in high-cost-of-living areas.  So, let's raise the minimum wage, and that will allow skilled professionals to demand more as well.

It's a lot like the non-union folks who biatch about the pay and perks union members get - don't be angry at them for working to earn a solid living, ask why you accept living in a place or working in a company that doesn't allow you to do that for yourself.  Everyone deserves a strong benefits program, a robust wage, and ample vacation time, don't hate on those trying to make a better situation for themselves, fight to get the same for yourself.
2013-07-29 10:02:36 PM
2 votes:

ThatDarkFellow: I don't think pay should be scaled to the location of where you live.


Good luck with that.
2013-07-29 09:30:08 PM
2 votes:
7.25 is too low, yes. 15 is ridiculous, though. There are people who work jobs that require an actual skill or education that can't even find work for 15/hr right now.
2013-07-31 04:51:25 AM
1 votes:
I work in a restaurant in Canada, at what I consider a high level for their requested wage, plus 1$/hour in tips.

Servers make double that, but we'll just leave that alone because my income is subsidized by my long term partner's server's earnings.

The point is everyone in back of house is paycheck to paycheck except for those with spouses who have real jobs not suited for our skillsets. This has little to do with intellectual ability where I work, perhaps bootstrappiness. But the fact that childless professionals who work a high stress job required by society have a hard time paying rent sometimes without assistance is a symptom of a sick society. Discussing wealth inequality is not class warfare, neither is doubling minimum wage a simple process. There would be severe problems.

But working within reasonable terms, change is a moral obligation. The sociopathy of capitalists, becoming brazen in a way that confuses me while leaving me in awe is counterproductive and is pushing left-leaning people like myself towards communist discussions.

Would it surprise anyone to know that over the last few years political discussion has become far more prevalent in kitchens, with a common theme? I'm sure it's happening in all the lower middle class industries becoming more and more exploited.

A meritocracy is not a good idea, and anyone who believes in bootstraps is either an an exploiter or exploitee in denial. Paying people a living wage denies you the smug superior feeling of punishing them for not being as awesome as you. After all, being born on second counts as a double.

But perhaps someone not being poor in the richest set of nations on earth doesn't take away from your accomplishments. Walk a mile in their shoes you farking self-righteous assholes.
2013-07-30 10:20:08 PM
1 votes:

FarkedOver: Mr. Eugenides: FarkedOver: Under worker control or under a dictatorship of the proletariat, removal of the profit motive (greed, which is not human nature) is key. The replacement of the betterment of society is what should replace the profit motive.

[Citation needed]

Show me the citation that it is.  And if you've bothered to read anything else I've written regarding that, I already stated what human nature is.  Check it.


Cite anything published in an academic journal that argues that greed isn't human nature.  Based on your response I'm pretty sure you can't.

Greed, by necessity exists in any system where demand is greater than supply.  Trees compete for sunlight.  Dogs and toddlers compete for toys.  Hummingbirds fight over flowers.

Building an economic system that ignores that reality is to court failure.  But somehow every year new college freshmen discover Marx and his failed ideology.
2013-07-30 04:55:27 PM
1 votes:

pueblonative: Yeah the old sarcastic "well if giving the cat water is so good for it let's just drown the farker" response.


OK, so draw the line for me.  If raising it from 7.50 to 10 is good, why not 15?  Where should the minimum wage be and what will the end result be once its there?  I have a feeling you, like most people dont know but raising it "A little bit" seems like a good answer so you roll with it.

FarkedOver: This statement here is so farked up, I just don't even know.....


It isn't farked up.  You just dont understand what money is.  The whole reason why man invented currency is to give durability to things that are perishable.  A farmer will find it tough to barter because at a certain point his crop will spoil if he cant find the right person to barter with so he exchanges a unit of his labor so that the egg or potato that he farmed can be traded for something which someone else would value but not necessarily in that instant.

You and I are both perishable and so we convert our labor and time, which our employer values into money, hoping one day to pass it on so that the fruits of our work can go on even when we are worm food.

FarkedOver: No.  It goes socialism then communism.  Socialism is the dictatorship of the proletariat.


Actually, it goes Aristocracy, revoution, aristocracy by those who call themselves socialists and pretty much ends right there.
2013-07-30 10:20:43 AM
1 votes:
@ All of the Objectivists in here. Deebo, ThatDarkGuy, etc.

I used to think like you. I used to be an Objectivist who had a strong bias against labor. Well, I still had a soul and had a paradigm shift when I got a job in Corporate Purchasing and have a much better understanding of cost. One thing I have learned is that most people - especially salesmen, executives, accountants, and other corporate management types are really bad at math. They have a strong confirmation bias that x costs y, even when the math shows otherwise.

Nothing about Objectivism says that a company has to pay their employees at little as possible for as much work as they can get out of them by the way. That is just the popular Conservative viewpoint. I would argue that the irrationally greedy CEOs and Sharholders are Randian "Moochers" and have spread like a Cancer through the system. Companies have given over to the collectivism that is shareholder value first management. "From each according to his ablity, to each according to his need" has been corrupted to be "From each according to his ability, to shareholders according to their wants"

Smart businessmen understand that when you pay your employees better and they live a happier life, you reap the rewards of a better product. Smart businessmen also see the need to take risks to innovate and the need to always produce a better product than your competition. When you are tasked to run everything by a committee - that is shareholders desire for consecutive quarterly profit margin gain, you are forced to stagnate and squeeze every penny.

My point is this. There is not a free market for labor, and thus cannot be ruled by the invisable hand. Unless every "job creator" is a perfect randian hero, then irrational people will seek to mooch off of the work of others. This is why labor deserves both protections and collective barganing rights. My suppliers can negoiate with me for the cost of materials,, why shoudn't the supplier of the labor that allows me to build my product do the same?
2013-07-30 09:51:19 AM
1 votes:

doglover: You could just take a pay cut. If an executive quits, you can start promoting people and training them up. Y'know, like a real company.


I'm no expert, but I think McDonalds is a pretty real company.  They've been doing ok without your help for the past 50 years.
2013-07-30 09:44:20 AM
1 votes:
Doubling McDonald's Salaries Would Cause Your Big Mac To Cost Just 68¢ More:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/mcdonalds-salaries_n_367200 6. html
2013-07-30 09:40:14 AM
1 votes:

MugzyBrown: If you've ever worked a minimum wage job like McD's high paying executive job you'd know that 1/2 the workers are dopes, 1/4 are probably criminals, and the other 1/4 are doing most of the work while the manager drinks himself to death in the office or bangs one of the dopes.


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2013-07-30 09:16:34 AM
1 votes:

ThatDarkFellow: doglover: ThatDarkFellow: I don't think pay should be scaled to the location of where you live.

Good luck with that.

Exactly. Move somewhere less expensive.


Because moving to a completely new city is even cheaper than traveling there on vacation. A fast food worker probably has enough in his roommate's mom's car ashtray to move out of town and take 5 of his best friends with him.
2013-07-30 08:35:04 AM
1 votes:

untaken_name: TuteTibiImperes: Why is $15 ridiculous, especially in a major city with a high cost of life like NYC?

Because the money to pay the workers has to come from somewhere, and that's going to be the customers. When prices rise higher than people want to pay, people will stop buying fast food and then all those fast-food workers will get $0/hr. Will that make their situation better? Also, raising the minimum wage has traditionally resulted in increased prices of basic goods and services, leading to minimum-wage workers being hardest-hit, as they must use the largest percentage of their pay of any class of worker for those basic goods and services. In other words, when your food budget is 5% of your total budget, a price increase of 20% is not terribly damaging. However, when your food budget is 20% of your total budget, it's a much bigger hit. This leads to minimum-wage workers actually being negatively impacted by rises in the minimum wage. It isn't the CEOs who will be harmed by price increases. They can withstand them easily. It will be the very workers who pushed for increasing the minimum wage in the first place that will be harmed the most by it. That's one of the little ironies of life.


You are way to knowledgeable to be posting in this thread.
2013-07-30 08:24:05 AM
1 votes:
Five Guys on 34th street already charges $5.59 for a "little" cheeseburger.
2013-07-30 07:42:59 AM
1 votes:
You can pay workers a decent wage, or you can have the government give them welfare.

Choose one.
2013-07-30 06:46:19 AM
1 votes:
I always love these arguments about CEO's taking a pay cut to raise the pay of employees. McDonald's CEO makes about 8.75 million. If you took 8 million of that and divided it equally among all 440,000 employee's, each would receive a whopping $18 extra per year, or about a .01 cent per hour raise. Yep, that's sure to fix the problem alright.
2013-07-30 05:56:07 AM
1 votes:

puffy999: Great Janitor: I don't know where you got this incredibly wrong idea that minimum wage jobs are the only things left because that's simply not true, especially when the median income in the United States is just over $44,000.

First, that's an old number. Second, that's median HOUSEHOLD income; you do know what a household is, don't you? Third, if these household incomes are based on people who have jobs, how would that have to do with the open positions "left" on the market?

Anyway, YMMV for everyone in every region, but a job that earns you twice as much in another part of the country will almost always start out at, or near, minimum wage where I reside.


I don't think anyone who uses that initial argument knows what household income means.
2013-07-30 04:28:20 AM
1 votes:
What's going to happen if labor costs get too high is that those workers at the cash registers will be mostly replaced by computer ordering kiosks and more machines in the back will assemble the food.
2013-07-30 03:26:32 AM
1 votes:

StoPPeRmobile: MBK: How about not paying their CEOs millions of dollars to...

What exactly DO CEOs do?

I mean for a company like McDonalds.  You are pretty much one of the most recognizable symbols in the world.  Your food is sold all over the place.  You introduce a new burger every year.

What the fark does a CEO do that requires millions of dollars?

Risk going to prison.


i2.kym-cdn.com
2013-07-30 03:18:45 AM
1 votes:

Needlessly Complicated: ThatDarkFellow: 7.25 is too low, yes. 15 is ridiculous, though. There are people who work jobs that require an actual skill or education that can't even find work for 15/hr right now.

Everyone should make a living wage. I also agree with you.

Occasionally I get e-mails about open positions from recruiters. I have a background in graphic design. I got one recently for a copy editor with experience using InDesign and it paid $12/hour. Another job was a graphic design job, required experience in graphic design and Adobe Creative suite. That one paid $14/hr. (Both of those are in the Dallas/Ft Worth area.) That's what I was paid at my entry-level job... about 12 years ago. What the hell happened to wages? (And living on those wages is do-able in Dallas but it would still be difficult. I can't imagine what it would be like to live on those wages in NYC.)


Exactly. Wages are where they were or less than ten years ago, but think about how much gas and food have gone up.

I see a LOT of adults working retail and fast food and I know of plenty with degrees working those jobs. Why? Because either their unemployment ran out before they found something in their field, or they are fresh out of college in one of the worst job markets since the Great Depression.

Retail and fast food always paid minimum wage, but no one complained because it was just a stepping stone job and not a career. But these days there are a lot of adults that are finding its the only job around where they live even if they have a degree.
2013-07-30 02:22:10 AM
1 votes:
Back in my day (not too long ago in a galaxy very, very close), you could get a Whopper for 99 cents on the regular, no promo. Of course you could also get a job that might start at minimum wage, but you could realistically "work your way up" to making a decent living in a few years. You could also find a drivable (looks like shiat but will get you to work) vehicle for $1000 with a bit of looking. You could also find rents in decent neighborhoods for under a grand a month.

None of these things is true anymore.

But hey, bootstraps! And skills! Trickle down! Shovel ready! Work a little harder and throw some college (with a heaping helping of debt!) in the mix, and you'll be off the fryer in no time at all! This Bud's for you, Mr. unskilled teenage layabout... even though you're in your thirties and have a resume as long as your arm.  ♫ I hear they're hiring at Starbucks!  ♫

/local fast food workers here all look to be north of 30
//haven't seen a teenager working anywhere around here in at least two years
///heck of a job, job creators.
2013-07-30 01:05:12 AM
1 votes:

eaglepuss: A lot of people working at McDonalds have degrees or are trying to futher their education. Assuming that everyone there is a 17 year old idiot is unfair.


Across the country, the median age of fast-food workers is over 28, and women -- who make up two-thirds of the industry -- are over 32
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/11/mcjobs-should-pa y- too-inside-fast-food-workers-historic-protest-for-living-wages/265714/
2013-07-30 12:53:19 AM
1 votes:
Want a job paying $15/hour?  Apply for jobs paying $15/hour.  Getting hired at McDonald's, getting told "We're going to pay you $7.25/hour." and you say "Okay." does not allow you to biatch and moan that you're not making enough money.  You knew what the pay was before you accepted the job, suck it up.  Don't like it, apply for a new job.  Get the skills needed to get a better job or be willing to do some really shiatty jobs.  Taking a job that pays minimum wage and then going on strike demanding that your entry level pay is doubled is retarded.

As for the unionizing part, I've worked as part of a union and I've worked in places that weren't unionized.  There is not enough money in the world that would get me to unionize and put up with that bullshiat again.
2013-07-30 12:53:10 AM
1 votes:

ThatDarkFellow: TuteTibiImperes: ThatDarkFellow: 7.25 is too low, yes. 15 is ridiculous, though. There are people who work jobs that require an actual skill or education that can't even find work for 15/hr right now.

Why is $15 ridiculous, especially in a major city with a high cost of life like NYC?  I do agree that more skilled professions should be paid even more.  Don't look at it as McDonalds employees asking to be overpaid, look at it as people finally starting to stand up to our current reality of record corporate profits and historically high wage inequality.  All non-executive employees should be demanding more pay.

As to the headline, McDonalds is welcome to charge $4 for a cheesburger, and they'll be pushed out of the market if they do.  It's time to take some of those huge profits and put them towards employee wages - the people at the top end take a little bit less of the pie and give the people who actually do the work their fare share.

I don't think pay should be scaled to the location of where you live. Otherwise I'd be on a beach condo in Malibu. I'm not saying the guys don't need a pay increase, but they definitely don't deserve more than people who have worked on backgrounds and skills after high school.


A lot of people working at McDonalds have degrees or are trying to futher their education. Assuming that everyone there is a 17 year old idiot is unfair.
2013-07-30 12:20:09 AM
1 votes:
What's goin on in this thr-

narwhaler.com
2013-07-29 11:02:52 PM
1 votes:

ThatDarkFellow: doglover: ThatDarkFellow: I don't think pay should be scaled to the location of where you live.

Good luck with that.

Exactly. Move somewhere less expensive.


Aww, you're so cute.

He's like a little Ayn Rand, freshly burst from the leathery eggs sac that housed it.
2013-07-29 10:11:38 PM
1 votes:
Class warfare thread!

/sad there are "classes" of people
MBK [TotalFark]
2013-07-29 09:59:02 PM
1 votes:
How about not paying their CEOs millions of dollars to...

What exactly DO CEOs do?

I mean for a company like McDonalds.  You are pretty much one of the most recognizable symbols in the world.  Your food is sold all over the place.  You introduce a new burger every year.

What the fark does a CEO do that requires millions of dollars?
 
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