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2013-07-29 11:26:44 PM

Inchoate: Pat Robertson has gone to plaid. That or he's playing an elaborate game of human-compassion chicken with Pope Francis.


This has all been a long-con so that Pat Robertson can become a woman and smoke pot legally with Pope Francis while they oversee a foundation of South American orphanages and halfway houses.

/it all makes so much sense now
 
2013-07-29 11:26:49 PM

ambassador_ahab: Normally I recommend that everyone masturbate furiously.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-29 11:30:19 PM

codergirl42: ambassador_ahab: codergirl42: Well we could also identify as pansexual, since I've also dated both FtoM and MtoF trans people.

I've dated FTM and had sexual relations with females and males, but throwing a specific label on it seemed silly to me.  I identify by my name and just let it be.  The way I see it, if I'm seriously involved with someone and they want to have sex with me, that person isn't going to care about my "label" at that point.

Yeah, my husband and I refer to our relationship as a marriage, rather than a gay or straight marriage. No need to make a distinction since neither descriptors are really apt.


As long as y'all are both happy that's all that matter's. And yea I rarely term my relationships as LGB I do understand people want to classify for whatever reason.
/Pansexual is such a nice term but most people don't know it.
 
2013-07-29 11:35:10 PM

TheJoe03: 25.media.tumblr.com


That was a hilarious skit...

"I'm gonna masturbate and think about you and there's nothing you can do about it"
 
2013-07-29 11:35:35 PM

codergirl42: tinfoil-hat maggie: codergirl42: ambassador_ahab: codergirl42: He identifies himself as gay, and I can relate to that, but it does get a little complicated. I am attracted to men and women so it's better easier if I just identify as Bi.

If I just saw you walking down the street, I'd probably assume you were female.  After dating someone that was trans, I quit identifying as anything (why must we throw a label on it?)

Well we could also identify as pansexual, since I've also dated both FtoM and MtoF trans people.

Same, well except I've only been friends with FTM's , hey they were married or getting married. Otherwise curious, curious.

I didn't date either out of any sense of curiosity or anything. To me it doesn't matter what genitals a person has but whether or not we were compatible in a relationship.


Exactly, I'm mean yea sex is important as physical act but it really does make more difference if we're compatible mentally and well everything else can be figured out.
 
2013-07-29 11:37:55 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: codergirl42: ambassador_ahab: codergirl42: Well we could also identify as pansexual, since I've also dated both FtoM and MtoF trans people.

I've dated FTM and had sexual relations with females and males, but throwing a specific label on it seemed silly to me.  I identify by my name and just let it be.  The way I see it, if I'm seriously involved with someone and they want to have sex with me, that person isn't going to care about my "label" at that point.

Yeah, my husband and I refer to our relationship as a marriage, rather than a gay or straight marriage. No need to make a distinction since neither descriptors are really apt.

As long as y'all are both happy that's all that matter's. And yea I rarely term my relationships as LGB I do understand people want to classify for whatever reason.
/Pansexual is such a nice term but most people don't know it.


I'm pans, but I always tell people I'm bi.  Saves the time it takes to explain.
 
2013-07-29 11:38:20 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: /Pansexual is such a nice term but most people don't know it.


I just spent way too long trying to google the technical term for Pan's cloven-foot legs so I could make a bad one-liner.

What is it called when the legs are inverted like that?!
 
2013-07-29 11:39:50 PM

ParagonComplex: There isn't any sin associated with a person saying God make a mistake and made them the wrong gender? All right, then. Maybe sin and sacrilege are different.


Not that I take a religious point of view, but I like to say that calling it a mistake is unfair. If there were an almighty god, could he not intend for some of his children to see both perspectives? It could all be part of that"mysterious way."
 
2013-07-29 11:40:50 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: /Pansexual is such a nice term but most people don't know it.


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/no?
 
2013-07-29 11:42:33 PM

Super Chronic: cman: revrendjim: cman: Christianity finds homosexuality as a sin

Transgenderism isn't homosexuality

Granted it gets a little complicated, but how can you be transgender without being in some sense homosexual?

Homosexuality is about sex with someone of the same gender

Transgenderism is about gender alone.

Not all transgendered people engage in sexual relations with members of their same biological sex

Is that really true?  Is there someone who's like "I'm a woman trapped inside a man's body... but that woman is a lesbian who likes other women"?  And in Robertson-land, does that count as hetero (considering that in TFA he says he's still not down with the concept without the operation)?  Honest questions.


Yes, that's true. My best friend was born female, lives life and has had therapy to become a gay male.
 
2013-07-29 11:44:16 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Exactly, I'm mean yea sex is important as physical act but it really does make more difference if we're compatible mentally and well everything else can be figured out.


If you've figured out the connection part, the genitals situation usually works itself out, so to speak.
 
2013-07-29 11:45:09 PM

SwissArmyGnome: Not that I take a religious point of view, but I like to say that calling it a mistake is unfair. If there were an almighty god, could he not intend for some of his children to see both perspectives? It could all be part of that"mysterious way."


It depends on how you want to view God. If he's hands-off, he knows that your conditions in the womb are going to cause you insane amounts of hassle later in life, and holds back on intervention to see how you're going to handle it. If he's hands-on, he personally intervened so that you would be able to experience the perspective of a person who is largely despised by his own followers, and will still have insane amounts of hassle later in life in any case.

He may work in mysterious ways, but he's still a dick.
 
2013-07-29 11:47:00 PM

CK2005: I'm pans, but I always tell people I'm bi.  Saves the time it takes to explain.


I know the feeling.
 
2013-07-29 11:48:00 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: It depends on how you want to view God


I view God the same way I view my giant 12" dick.  They've both just a fantasy.
 
2013-07-29 11:48:29 PM
Gee, call him an ambulance, he may have had a stroke.

(Can you have a stroke in the amygdalus?)
 
2013-07-29 11:49:42 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: tinfoil-hat maggie: /Pansexual is such a nice term but most people don't know it.

I just spent way too long trying to google the technical term for Pan's cloven-foot legs so I could make a bad one-liner.

What is it called when the legs are inverted like that?!


You would have found read the link : )
/Oh and Dionysus is gonna punish you by turning your booze sour.
 
2013-07-29 11:56:09 PM
As a transgender person who hasn't taken the steps yet, this makes me happy. There's still a long way to go, but this isn't something I would've anticipated at all.
 
2013-07-29 11:57:15 PM

ekdikeo4: optikeye: I don't think there's any sin associated with that. I don't condemn somebody for doing that."


You know Pat...I don't give a flying fark at rolling doughnut what you think, as if your an arbertrator of what's sin or not. That ego you have..that even to make what you "Think" is sin or not is amazingly self-serving.
Especially when it's not your place to "Condemn somebody for doing that"...HELLO..you can't do that unless you think farken GOD---asshole.

I think the saying should be moved from "Don't judge people" to "Don't judge people for things other than their actions".  If you never judge someone, you're going to live your life getting ripped off constantly by bad people.  There comes a point where you simply must judge people by the things that they do.


What if you judge people for cornholing other people?
 
2013-07-29 11:58:01 PM

Umeraken Ideut: Super Chronic: cman: revrendjim: cman: Christianity finds homosexuality as a sin

Transgenderism isn't homosexuality

Granted it gets a little complicated, but how can you be transgender without being in some sense homosexual?

Homosexuality is about sex with someone of the same gender

Transgenderism is about gender alone.

Not all transgendered people engage in sexual relations with members of their same biological sex

Is that really true?  Is there someone who's like "I'm a woman trapped inside a man's body... but that woman is a lesbian who likes other women"?  And in Robertson-land, does that count as hetero (considering that in TFA he says he's still not down with the concept without the operation)?  Honest questions.

Yes, that's true. My best friend was born female, lives life and has had therapy to become a gay male.


Yep, generally sexuality is who you want to have sex with, gender identity is who you wanna wanna be when you have sex with that person. That's way simplified to the point of being incorrect. But well these threads are usually at a 3rd grade level.
 
2013-07-30 12:00:23 AM

Super Chronic: Is that really true?  Is there someone who's like "I'm a woman trapped inside a man's body... but that woman is a lesbian who likes other women"?  And in Robertson-land, does that count as hetero (considering that in TFA he says he's still not down with the concept without the operation)?  Honest questions.


Don't know about Robertson, but yes. Transgender are gay\lesbian depending on the gender they are mentally, not their birth gender. If a 'woman' becomes a man, and loves women, he is straight. If a 'man' becomes a woman, and loves women, she is lesbian. In Robertson-land, apparently you're only transgender if you're rich enough for surgery.

/Which pisses me off because surgery is farking expensive, so a lot of people basically say 'unless they can pony up cash I'm going to pretend they're the wrong gender'. FFS, people, STFU and be polite.
 
2013-07-30 12:01:17 AM

redsquid: He's playing the classic 'Duck Season/Rabbit Season' gambit. He's waiting for the LGBLTs to say ' Nuh-uh- Transgenders are totally sinful!' then he'll say 'Gotcha!' and he wins forever.


I see you've played this game before.
 
2013-07-30 12:03:14 AM

RealAmericanHero: As a transgender person who hasn't taken the steps yet, this makes me happy. There's still a long way to go, but this isn't something I would've anticipated at all.


I'm afraid this maybe more like the Iranian cure for homosexuals, and I have heard he was okay with people transitioning along while back. Now whether that includes FTM's as well as MTF's well who knows
 
2013-07-30 12:03:37 AM
Yeah, Christians, including Robertson, tell me I'm a sinner for masturbating, and I'm going to hell because of my lifestyle choices.  I just never felt a need to hate all Christians for it or wish they were dead.  I pretty much just ignore them, or at worst consider them a little loopy and frustrated.  I'm just not into the whole endless cycle of hate everyone else around me seems to be.
 
2013-07-30 12:05:32 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Yep, generally sexuality is who you want to have sex with, gender identity is who you wanna wanna be when you have sex with that person.


If the other person(s) is/are a consenting adult, are we allowed to have hot sex first and then figure out how psychologists would describe it later?
 
2013-07-30 12:07:05 AM
Really, I'm the first with the pic? 2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-30 12:07:08 AM
Interesting that he considers me more sinful than transgender people though.  I suppose now I'm supposed to feel persecuted.  *yawn*
 
2013-07-30 12:08:56 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Interesting that he considers me more sinful than transgender people though.  I suppose now I'm supposed to feel persecuted.  *yawn*


It depends.  The conservatives rarely get in a fuss when it's two sexy ladies getting it on.  They usually only talk about "unnatural and unholy" when it's two men.
 
2013-07-30 12:13:43 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: /Pansexual is such a nice term but most people don't know it.


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2013-07-30 12:14:15 AM

ambassador_ahab: tinfoil-hat maggie: Yep, generally sexuality is who you want to have sex with, gender identity is who you wanna wanna be when you have sex with that person.

If the other person(s) is/are a consenting adult, are we allowed to have hot sex first and then figure out how psychologists would describe it later?


I say yes if all parties are agreed : )
 
2013-07-30 12:15:16 AM

ambassador_ahab: It depends.  The conservatives rarely get in a fuss when it's two sexy ladies getting it on.  They usually only talk about "unnatural and unholy" when it's two men.


Yeah, they never seem to go on long rants about women masturbating either.  Just men.  I guess i should feel doubly persecuted.

Or maybe I'll just shrug and live my life instead.
 
2013-07-30 12:15:31 AM
Hey, Pat:

"The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do soare abomination unto the LORD thy God." --
 Deuteronomy 22:5
 
2013-07-30 12:19:24 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: /Oh and Dionysus is gonna punish you by turning your booze sour.


My booze is already sour, but the ancient pantheon somehow missed Brita filters being invented.

/so did my liquor store cashier, she thought I was some techno-god for filtering cheap vodka through a Brita
 
2013-07-30 12:19:54 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Yeah, they never seem to go on long rants about women masturbating either.


I think it's because women don't technically "spill" any "seed" when they do it.

/Source:  something I might have remember from a high school religion class
 
2013-07-30 12:22:16 AM
Pat used to advocate eating a soybeans a lot. Perhaps it did something.
 
2013-07-30 12:22:33 AM

Snapper Carr: tinfoil-hat maggie: /Pansexual is such a nice term but most people don't know it.

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Oh yea : )
 
2013-07-30 12:23:44 AM
When death is approaching, even stone-cold bastards place a side-bet. In this cocksucker's case, it's a wager on tolerance and minding one's own bidness.
 
2013-07-30 12:23:53 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: I say yes if all parties are agreed : )


Let's assume, arguendo, that "consenting" in this instance includes "figure out how to properly label/classify the activity at some point in the future, and get to business for now."
 
2013-07-30 12:24:04 AM
Well, he is named Pat

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2013-07-30 12:24:07 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: tinfoil-hat maggie: /Oh and Dionysus is gonna punish you by turning your booze sour.

My booze is already sour, but the ancient pantheon somehow missed Brita filters being invented.

/so did my liquor store cashier, she thought I was some techno-god for filtering cheap vodka through a Brita


I remember reading about that, wow, that's been a while ago.
 
2013-07-30 12:25:42 AM

ambassador_ahab: ThrobblefootSpectre: Yeah, they never seem to go on long rants about women masturbating either.

I think it's because women don't technically "spill" any "seed" when they do it.

/Source:  something I might have remember from a high school religion class


Well they aren't really sowing the seed, but some women can really spray the field down with fertilizer when they masturbate.

/keep the field fertilzed
 
2013-07-30 12:27:38 AM

ambassador_ahab: tinfoil-hat maggie: I say yes if all parties are agreed : )

Let's assume, arguendo, that "consenting" in this instance includes "figure out how to properly label/classify the activity at some point in the future, and get to business for now."


Why do do you need to classify/label it? If people are agreed on what they're willing to do what does it mater?
 
2013-07-30 12:33:34 AM

hardinparamedic: tbeatty: "Farklibs apoplectic at concept of hate the sin, love the sinner.  News at 11."

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You got me.  I didn't really try.  Still entertaining.

/Romans has a lot about homosexuality and homosexual acts as well as Peter living among sinners and being  compassionate without becoming a sinner.
//Still can't find anything about being transgender that would be a sin.  Changing gender and living as that gender doesn't seem to be addressed.  Heck, they all wore dresses.   If someone wants to live as a woman and takes medical steps to become one, not sure how that would be a sin.
/// the entertaining part is that Farklibs see that as some sort of contradiction and untrustworthy.   Kinda like a built in homophobic response that transgender people are necessarily homosexual and commit homosexual acts (hint: it's a completely different choice and a different color in the rainbow).   Robertson is not necessarily hypocritical for accepting transgender people while rejecting homosexual acts.  If that makes you apoplectic, please refer to the rainbow that you see as a monochromatic flag opposing Robertson.
 
2013-07-30 12:34:23 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: If people are agreed on what they're willing to do what does it mater?


What if, for example, I simultaneously insert my left fist into the rectal cavity of an MtoF heterosexual female, and an FtoM homosexual male?  What we all did might be described entirely differently depending on the person you asked.
 
2013-07-30 12:36:43 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: but some women can really spray the field down with fertilizer when they masturbate.


No shiat.  I witnessed the full power of this not long ago, when she managed to soak through the sheets, the mattress, the box-spring, and maybe even the carpet below the bed.

I mean, I've been with women who could...secrete some fluid, but I'd never encountered anything like this before.  I was like, "holy shiat!"
 
2013-07-30 12:40:19 AM

ambassador_ahab: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: but some women can really spray the field down with fertilizer when they masturbate.

No shiat.  I witnessed the full power of this not long ago, when she managed to soak through the sheets, the mattress, the box-spring, and maybe even the carpet below the bed.

I mean, I've been with women who could...secrete some fluid, but I'd never encountered anything like this before.  I was like, "holy shiat!"


They are called "men".  Just so you know.
 
2013-07-30 12:40:51 AM

revrendjim: cman: Christianity finds homosexuality as a sin

Transgenderism isn't homosexuality

Granted it gets a little complicated, but how can you be transgender without being in some sense homosexual?


Jim that's quite a leap honestly what the fark would you know about it

I know nothing mind you
 
2013-07-30 12:44:27 AM

Xanadone: I think Robertson's been kidnapped by aliens and replaced with a look-a-like.  The idea that Pat would say something somewhat sane and humane on this subject just doesn't compute.


I'm expecting Ashton Kutcher to pop out with a camera crew any minute now and yell, "YOU JUST GOT PUNK'D!"
 
2013-07-30 12:44:41 AM

ambassador_ahab: tinfoil-hat maggie: If people are agreed on what they're willing to do what does it mater?

What if, for example, I simultaneously insert my left fist into the rectal cavity of an MtoF heterosexual female, and an FtoM homosexual male?  What we all did might be described entirely differently depending on the person you asked.


Well true but you're hitting trolltastic territory here. Just saying.
/You are sounding like a 3rd grader.
 
2013-07-30 12:45:11 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Why do do you need to classify/label it? If people are agreed on what they're willing to do what does it mater?


Probably the same reason people feel the need to label and draw ever finer distinctions about LGBTQN. It's a way to describe something, or oneself, without having to go into graphic play by play detail about what specific lifestyle or sex acts you like with whom.  From my point of view, if someone invited me over for "unspecified acts that I may have never heard of before", i would probably decline.  Give me some hint ahead of time.   Makes it easier to put an ad on a singles site.  The idea that "labels are bad" is new age psuedo-enlightened silliness.
 
2013-07-30 12:48:08 AM
You know, this seems a lot better than the last TG thread we had here. That was one hell of a clusterfark.
 
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