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(Hartford Courant)   Parents want over $600,000 because summer camp director stopped their low self-esteem daughter from having underage summer camp sex   (courant.com) divider line 46
    More: Stupid, CHLOE MILLER, self-esteem, Sue Lein, executive directors, Westport, underage, emotional well-being  
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2013-07-29 08:38:10 PM  
9 votes:

gonzoduke: Your snowflake is a slut


I went to a co-ed Christian camp for the summer around that age (I had a good friend whose family was much more religious and he was going so I wanted to go to) and I can testify that almost every waking moment not occupied with various camp activities was spent scheming with my fellow male campers on how we could hook up with the female campers, or at least possibly see some of them naked.

Take a bunch of hormonal teenagers and put them out in the woods with minimal adult supervision and days spent in physical activity working those urges up, what do you expect to happen?

I think the camp certainly was out of line, if not just for expelling the girl for a makeout session, then for screaming and shouting at her when she was caught.

That being said, the parents are wackadoo if they think that this deserves the kind of damages they're asking.  If I were on the jury I'd be willing to award a pro-rated amount of the camp fee based on the time she was there, but that would be it.
2013-07-29 08:14:43 PM  
6 votes:
The lawsuit seeks a refund of camp tuition for both girls (over $12,000)...


Rich people problems.
2013-07-29 10:45:46 PM  
4 votes:
Everyone involved in this story is an asshole piece of shiat, except probably the girl who got expelled. Lawyers, parents, counselors, whoever wrote the article, everyone.
2013-07-29 08:33:43 PM  
4 votes:
Oh for fark's sake.
2013-07-29 08:29:07 PM  
4 votes:
Your snowflake is a slut
2013-07-29 11:09:00 PM  
3 votes:

Arthur Jumbles: TuteTibiImperes: I think the camp certainly was out of line, if not just for expelling the girl for a makeout session, then for screaming and shouting at her when she was caught.

I doubt they actually yelled at her, that's just what her hormone controlled mind thought. What I want to know is whether the boy was kicked out too.


The article was pretty specific on that point, as well as disclosure of private medical information. That she was slut shamed in front of the entire camp before being escorted off (by a cop I think?) is one of the things they're suing for specifically. I'll absolutely grant you that a girl that age is generally distorting reality through emo colored glasses at a rate unparalleled without copious use of hallucinogens, but that being said lots of witnesses make up for that. I'd be far more skeptical if it was based purely on an account between the girl and the camp coont.

The damages asked may be excessive, but if accurate ... it's pretty farked up.
2013-07-29 10:59:08 PM  
3 votes:
Several people made a point of asking what happened to the boy involved. I'd be very interested to know that too. Was he hauled out in front of the camp and called all manner of names too? Not that he should have been mind you, but I'm betting there was a double standard here.

/still better than Kamp Krusty
2013-07-29 09:32:01 PM  
3 votes:

TsarTom: On the other hand, the young gentleman earned his stud cred for the summer.

See? It all works out.


I was wondering if he got sent home, too. Some fine reportin' there, Lou.
2013-07-29 11:30:50 PM  
2 votes:

Iggie:


God, Tatum O'Neal was responsible for the majority of my adolescent friction burns. She was the quiet kinky fantasy girl of my dreams.
2013-07-29 11:24:49 PM  
2 votes:

ThatDarkFellow: Every lawyer should get a 3 strike policy. On the third time they bring a case the courts rule ridiculous they lose their license.


Because a case involving malicious breach of medical privacy and intentional infliction of severe emotional distress on a child is "ridiculous."

If the privacy allegations here are true, this woman changed this girl. She will have difficulty being candid with health care providers for a long time, if she ever recovers trust in the sanctity of her medical privacy at all. That in turn will inhibit her recovery from other problems, some sure to derive from this.

Then there's the social damage public revelation of mental disorders inflicts. Who knows how many kids went and posted to their social media accounts about the "crazy girl," maybe identified by name, who got bawled out for "being a slut?" This will potentially follow this girl and continue to damage her throughout her life.

If the allegations are true, $600,000 isn't enough. And if Ms. Lein has any history of like conduct of which the camp was aware to make this kind of thing foreseeable, it should be financially ended right alongside Ms. Lein.
2013-07-29 10:59:53 PM  
2 votes:
Every lawyer should get a 3 strike policy. On the third time they bring a case the courts rule ridiculous they lose their license.
2013-07-29 10:53:17 PM  
2 votes:
A 15-year-old Westport girl and her family have filed a civil lawsuit against an overnight summer camp in the Berkshire Mountains, alleging negligent supervision, breach of contract and emotional damages after the girl was expelled from the camp, allegedly for kissing a boy.

For all this trouble, I hope she got tongue.
2013-07-29 09:28:21 PM  
2 votes:
On the other hand, the young gentleman earned his stud cred for the summer.

See? It all works out.
2013-07-29 09:06:04 PM  
2 votes:

doglover: Richard Freckle: doglover: The lawsuit seeks a refund of camp tuition for both girls (over $12,000)

$6,000 for a summer camp? That's about six times more than you'd think it would cost for a week. Do they have caviar Wednesdays or hire active military units to fly in and pay for the Jet A.

Ha!  That was an entire year of college for me...ahhh State Schools

Colleges don't need insurance for young kids, overnight supervision, uniforms, or a canoe for everyone. College students bring most of their own stuff, assume legal responsibilities, and are only there three times a week during business hours.

$1000 for a week of camp where your children are sent off is not unreasonable on the high end. Probably had electricity and laundry, too.


Yeah I agree on the 1k. Sending a pair of kids away for a week at 12k is some pretty uninspired parenting.  A lot of cool education and/or fun could be had for 12k.
2013-07-29 08:00:36 PM  
2 votes:
Was she hot?
2013-07-29 07:33:26 PM  
2 votes:
One time at band camp.......
2013-07-30 05:57:18 AM  
1 votes:
Where exactly did she "kiss" him?
2013-07-30 04:43:48 AM  
1 votes:
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OH!  I'll be the victim!!
2013-07-30 01:00:29 AM  
1 votes:

BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: So blame the parents

Thank you very much but no, at this point, I choose to blame the camp for being cowardly insensate Aspergers absolutist douchestains.


You sure about that. The only facts we have are from a sensationalist lawyer. We have not heard from any other campers, the boy, the boy's parents, the camp itself, but feel free to jump to the conclusion that the girl who's parents sued the school are being on the up and up.

I mean when was the last time you heard a teenage girl dream up some huge scheme to make someone else look bad when they were in trouble? It just never happens.
2013-07-30 12:11:29 AM  
1 votes:
Meanwhile - low self esteem guys have to wait till they have graduated college and are making bank before they can get laid. Who can they sue?
2013-07-30 12:07:28 AM  
1 votes:

Omahawg: are you ready for the summer?
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Ah, the 70s.  When a girl could go from hardcore porn to a kids' movie and nobody batted an eye.
2013-07-30 12:05:42 AM  
1 votes:

Uchiha_Cycliste: So, granted it doesn't really apply here, but sometimes you actually (as a counselor) need to share medical info with your wards. I had to take care of an autistic kid along with my other 12-13yo's and they HAD to know why little Jeremy was so different and difficult. What I'm saying is there isn't a hard line at share nothing of medical stuff, discretion is required.


That's a different situation entirely and probably one where little Jeremy's parents would be told  ahead
of time "Look...we need to let the other campers know about Jeremy's autism so that they understand
what his mannerisms are stemming from and will hopefully be more tolerant..."

TFA made it sound like the sandy-vagged counselor caught the young lovers sucking face and dragged
the poor girl out by her ear, stood her in front of the other campers and berated her for her behavior.

Look-ee here, campers. Little Miss Hot Pants here was messing around behind the arts and crafts hut
with Jimmy. She has (air quotes) "self esteem issues" and doesn't feel good about herself so she let
him jam his tongue down her throat. The little JEZEBEL!

Adults shouldn't free the fark out over perfectly NORMAL emerging sexual urges in teenagers. Kids
should be taught that it is perfectly normal. They should be taught that some age appropriate level
of experimenting is  OK but a) both parties must be consenting, b) if one party puts on the brakes,
that's it. No coercion,and c) it isn't cool to fark with someone and lead them on only to drop them cold
(though item b stillapplies regardless).
2013-07-29 11:57:34 PM  
1 votes:
2013-07-29 11:50:58 PM  
1 votes:

Harry_Seldon: gonzoduke: Your snowflake is a slut

I believe she is technically a "skank."

//Are we gonna get sued?


When I was 12-13 years old, this stuff was considered normal for growing kids and nobody gave a shait.
In all reality, in a sane society, it would be called "being a teenager".  In this day and age, who the fark knows.
2013-07-29 11:49:59 PM  
1 votes:

Jabberwookiee: I've been to band camp, space camp, bible camp, and beyond. There is one goal. Get to at least second or third base. If you get lucky and hit a home run, you are a legend. That is all.


I've never been to space camp or band camp. I went to a quasi-bible camp for 3 summers and
a computer camp for 3 summers. I *wish* I'd found some guy to make out with on the sly. Nobody
wants to make out with the tall, gangly, socially awkward tomboy though. Sigh...

Even at computer camp, when I was the ONLY girl in my friggin' unit...still no joy. Sigh...

Still, had some great times at Summit Lake Camp and Camp Horizons.
2013-07-29 11:26:34 PM  
1 votes:
Just imagine how much they would sue for if she came home knocked up.
2013-07-29 11:25:37 PM  
1 votes:
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2013-07-29 11:25:08 PM  
1 votes:

derpy: [i42.tinypic.com image 640x346]
Disapproves.


I don't care what anyone says, that movie makes me grin like an idiot for 2 hours. So freaking sweet.
2013-07-29 11:24:44 PM  
1 votes:
Good. Those camp directors need to sweat and earn their pay.

(1) Do If I don't expel the girl maybe the parents will sue me for allowing her to get molested.
(2) If I do expel the girl maybe the parents will sue me for overreacting.

Decisions....decisions....
2013-07-29 11:21:55 PM  
1 votes:
camp director, Sue Lein

LOL, really?
2013-07-29 11:12:07 PM  
1 votes:
i42.tinypic.com
Disapproves.
2013-07-29 11:08:19 PM  
1 votes:
TuteTibiImperes:

Take a bunch of hormonal teenagers and put them out in the woods with minimal adult supervision and days spent in physical activity working those urges up, what do you expect to happen?

...go on...
2013-07-29 11:07:39 PM  
1 votes:
If the camp operator did all of those things, she deserves to go down...
2013-07-29 11:06:45 PM  
1 votes:
FTA:Arnold said her client, who had attended the camp for four years, maintains that the incident did not warrant immediate expulsion.

Oh. Well, that just settles everything.  I missed the part where it said the girl (or her mom?) owned and ran the camp, and thus was the one that determined what does or doesn't constitute expulsion.

There's nothing about the boy, probably because his parents aren't suing.  It could also be that they were from different camps, or different people were in charge of boys and girls, so that he wasn't subject to the same person's authority on the matter.   I'd say he's luckier that this girl's parent's are looking for criminal charges against him for being in a state of undress with their little snowflake (slutflake?)... Oh, but then they wouldn't have claim to try to get $687,000 from the camp.
2013-07-29 11:06:40 PM  
1 votes:

AirForceVet: Why not go for $600,000?


Because it's farking retarded?
2013-07-29 11:06:21 PM  
1 votes:

i.r.id10t: BTW, I'm getting a kick out of these replies since my just turned 13 year old just came back from 10 days of summer camp (same camp I went to when I was a young and stoopid idi10t).  Fortunately, I think I've raised her right and she's got a good brain and she uses it.


Looks at Fark handle...reads post. Fark handle...post. Fark handle...post.  Fark handle...post.  Fark handle...post.

*bursts out laughing*
2013-07-29 11:06:12 PM  
1 votes:
That much money for a summer camp? http://fw.ky.gov/navigation.aspx?cid=301&NavPath=C117C147 I went to that one 2 years in a row. $230 that my mom saved and scrimped for,she's amazing and I had so much damned fun.
2013-07-29 11:04:52 PM  
1 votes:

Arthur Jumbles: TuteTibiImperes: I think the camp certainly was out of line, if not just for expelling the girl for a makeout session, then for screaming and shouting at her when she was caught.

I doubt they actually yelled at her, that's just what her hormone controlled mind thought. What I want to know is whether the boy was kicked out too.


The "boy" is very busy with his mayoral campaign.
2013-07-29 11:03:33 PM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: I think the camp certainly was out of line, if not just for expelling the girl for a makeout session, then for screaming and shouting at her when she was caught.


I doubt they actually yelled at her, that's just what her hormone controlled mind thought. What I want to know is whether the boy was kicked out too.
2013-07-29 11:02:56 PM  
1 votes:
Paul Harvey is demanding to hear the rest of the story!
2013-07-29 11:02:22 PM  
1 votes:

7th Son of a 7th Son: 15? Hate to break it to the parents but she's already been tagteamed by the entire football team. Probably starting giving handjobs at 12.


1.bp.blogspot.com

Well youre an old single loser whos never going to have any friends.
2013-07-29 11:02:13 PM  
1 votes:
So did the boy also get expelled?

/the punishment seems incredibly excessive
2013-07-29 10:32:58 PM  
1 votes:

mikeray: One time at banned camp.......


FTFY
2013-07-29 08:46:07 PM  
1 votes:

Richard Freckle: doglover: The lawsuit seeks a refund of camp tuition for both girls (over $12,000)

$6,000 for a summer camp? That's about six times more than you'd think it would cost for a week. Do they have caviar Wednesdays or hire active military units to fly in and pay for the Jet A.

Ha!  That was an entire year of college for me...ahhh State Schools


Colleges don't need insurance for young kids, overnight supervision, uniforms, or a canoe for everyone. College students bring most of their own stuff, assume legal responsibilities, and are only there three times a week during business hours.

$1000 for a week of camp where your children are sent off is not unreasonable on the high end. Probably had electricity and laundry, too.
2013-07-29 08:45:52 PM  
1 votes:

gonzoduke: Your snowflake is a slut


Oh good, I was hoping the Fark Misogyny Squad wouldn't sit this one out.

and have a seat over there for good measure.
2013-07-29 08:17:44 PM  
1 votes:
The lawsuit seeks a refund of camp tuition for both girls (over $12,000)

$6,000 for a summer camp? That's about six times more than you'd think it would cost for a week. Do they have caviar Wednesdays or hire active military units to fly in and pay for the Jet A.
 
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