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(Hartford Courant)   Parents want over $600,000 because summer camp director stopped their low self-esteem daughter from having underage summer camp sex   (courant.com) divider line 247
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2013-07-30 12:38:34 AM

Buckney Gurre: It's not $6000 a week you idiots.

2 weeks $3250
4 weeks $6450
6 weeks $9250


Still, the helicopters expect that their virgin daughters will return virgins.  That's a lot of money to spend only to find out that your daughter will give it up behind the basketball court in week 2.  "But dad, I wasn't a virgin when I went to camp" is not going to cut it.
 
2013-07-30 12:40:27 AM
So, if the counselors had not intervened, and the girl got pregnant or an STD or somehow a whiff got back the parents about it, what would the parents' reaction be?  Oh right, sue of course.
 
2013-07-30 12:40:35 AM
Gee, don't camp directors usually do the opposite thing?
 
2013-07-30 12:44:50 AM
That dirty little whore deserved what the camp gave her, she should be thanking them.

/ To the nunnery!
// THE NUNNERY I say!
/// that poor, permanently-stained boy.
 
2013-07-30 12:48:35 AM

BuckTurgidson: That dirty little whore deserved what the camp gave her, she should be thanking them.

/ To the nunnery!
// THE NUNNERY I say!
/// that poor, permanently-stained boy.


No one would even know this happened if her parents had just taken her home. Instead they had to defend their daughters maidenhood even after their daughter had shown that she wanted to throw herself on the sword, so to speak.

So blame the parents for making her famous for being a rule-breaker/whore/whatever inflammatory word you want to insert.
 
2013-07-30 12:50:15 AM
Wow - and even double-wow at the "tuition".

I went to camp every year until I was 15.  I don't remember since I didn't pay for it, but I think it was about $600 for 3 weeks.  I even worked there when I was 16.  I got paid $100 a week.

The rules included "no pairing off", but everyone did anyway.

Her parents were called and told to pick her up at the edge of camp, where she was escorted by an armed and uniformed police officer, Arnold said.

That's crazy,  Kissing is dangerous, I guess.

In all the years I attended camp, I don't think anyone was ever kicked out.  Maybe one person did - I can't really remember that far back.

One of my co-workers went nuts slopping trays in the kitchen though.  That was amusing.  His job was basically dumping all the campers trays into a huge trash can which got picked up by a pig farmer the next day and one day I guess the stress of such responsibility got to him and threw a huge tantrum and left.

Just for fun, I checked out their website just now.  It's now billed as a "Christian Camp" and I couldn't find a specific amount for their now 2-week camp sessions, but 2 2-week sessions will only cost you $5090.  They also suggest putting a few hundred into a camper account.  All that shiat was free when I went there.  You got a soft drink and a snack everyday - peanuts were often served.  Oh, and you got a choice of soft drinks, but not the snack.  Nobody was allergic to peanuts back then.

It seems pretty lame.  It looks like they've installed more tennis courts and removed some of the baseball fields.  When I went there, there was 1 tennis court and 3 baseball fields.  They also require special camper insurance.  I'm pretty sure we didn't need that when I attended.

Pictures are kind of scarce on their website too, but I bet they don't even have a gun range anymore and it wouldn't surprise me if the pool tables are gone too,

/I snipped about 3 paragraphs of ranting about how things have changed
//I sounded old and ornery
///and I was wrong - they still have a rifle range so at least they've got that going for them.
////God, guns and glory!111111111111111111!
 
2013-07-30 12:50:39 AM

ArmednHammered: fanbladesaresharp: mikeray: One time at band camp.......

If my parents knew half of the shiat that goes on at band camps.....

/good times, so why sue?
//screw your cheerleader and football team bus, band is overnight and co-ed by design.

I was in "Pep" band, we did all the away games for football and basketball. Shared the bus with the cheerleaders and stayed at the same hotel for overnights. Having several older brothers, I was the only one who knew to bring alcohol.
That was the only fun I had in High School.
/trumpet player...fast fingers and a talented tongue.


*fist bump* And you learned how to make noise and keep a beat.
 
2013-07-30 12:53:46 AM

thiefofdreams: So blame the parents


Thank you very much but no, at this point, I choose to blame the camp for being cowardly insensate Aspergers absolutist douchestains.
 
2013-07-30 12:54:51 AM
Surprised this hasn't been mentioned; screaming camp counselor immediately brings it to mind.


/hot
 
2013-07-30 01:00:29 AM

BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: So blame the parents

Thank you very much but no, at this point, I choose to blame the camp for being cowardly insensate Aspergers absolutist douchestains.


You sure about that. The only facts we have are from a sensationalist lawyer. We have not heard from any other campers, the boy, the boy's parents, the camp itself, but feel free to jump to the conclusion that the girl who's parents sued the school are being on the up and up.

I mean when was the last time you heard a teenage girl dream up some huge scheme to make someone else look bad when they were in trouble? It just never happens.
 
2013-07-30 01:00:33 AM
Rawr, this:

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2013-07-30 01:00:58 AM
This is not the first lawsuit for this family. THEY have put there snowflakes medical history out for everyone to see. First time anyone says anything, when she goes back to school. They will sue. Hell they might sue the newspaper and website for publishing it. And even if the counselor  did yell at her in front of other campers. Oh well. And I dont believe she said all that about her medical conditions. It sounds like the kids where at 3rd sliding into home. And since its not listed in the complaint, it sounds like the boy was kicked too. And she is not a slut. Sounds like she got the camp experience.

If I was the camp I would refund some of there money. Depending on how long they where there. Thats also missing from the story. Did this happen her first few days there or in the last week.

You have to remember if she would have been knocked up. This would be a 10,000,000 dollar lawsuit.
 
2013-07-30 01:01:34 AM

Lachwen: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Divulging psychiatric / medical info gets your ass ultrasued in the US, doesn't it?

/I ask cos it's not like you have a lot of laws protecting people's rights to privacy down there

Honestly, at this point I need independent verification of the screaming and divulging of personal information (say, from other councilors or campers) before I'll believe the accusation.  Let's look at the credibility of the charges so far:

"According to the girl's lawyer, Rosemarie Arnold of Fort Lee, N.J., kissing is not against the rules at the camp."

"The camp's code of conduct states that, 'depending on the severity of the act, a camper can be sent home for the first strike.'  The code of conduct also prohibits 'sexual relations or physical contact with another person (opposite or same sex).'"

"Kissing isn't against the rules!!!"  ...except that it is, precious.  Unless this is some form of kissing that involves never actually making physical contact with your partner.

"Arnold said her client, who had attended the camp for four years, maintains that the incident did not warrant immediate expulsion."

"Lein, according to the suit, said the boy and girl had begun to undress and were 'making out.'"

...yeah, I'm sorry, I'm siding with the camp here.  If the kids are getting into it to the point that they're starting to take off clothing, send their asses home.

Oh, and then there's the fact that the mother is suing for (among other things) "negligent supervision," even though  they farking well caught the kids before they could finish taking each other's clothes off.

Yeah.  Definitely leery of the "they yelled at my precious snowflake in front of all the other kids and told them her personal problems!" charge here.  I'll need to hear it from more than a single source that seems to think kissing doesn't count as physical contact or that horny barely-teens actively trying to get each other naked isn't grounds to kick said teens out of camp.


Not to mention miss Lein has been a director at that camp for twenty three years. That's a looooong time to hold a job if you behave incompetently. I don't takethe lawyer's and the families story as gospel on this one
 
2013-07-30 01:03:11 AM

thiefofdreams: a teenage girl


The obvious whore who is to blame, along with the whore's whore parents.

Probably jews.
 
2013-07-30 01:06:02 AM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: Sounds like a camp run by douchebags, for douchebags. Not sure whom I should support, or mock.

I do feel sorry for the young lovers. Bet that was the quickest-falling boner that lad will ever have (well, until he gets married anyway).


Same here, actually. Been to numerous summer camps, but also band "trips" of a few days and track team overnights and all sorts of other things. Somewhere, shiat is going to happen. We just dealt with it differently 30 years ago, and I went to numerous schools in different states. I used to get my ass handed to me for being a clarinet player trying out for football. That sucked. But then I did well in Cross Country and made it to state runs (and state honor bands). Then I'd go to school sponsored ones for 3 weeks well....just because I guess. Usually because I tried to start a neighbors tree on fire or something before you goddamn Cosplay and LARPer idiots were even born. Save that one for another day.

Camps, if they're run by douchebags (what did they expect for the $12k cool kid club fee?) for doucebags and their kids. I'm sorry that girl is going to have emotional problems forever because the camp, her parents, and the court system (and now Fark) are going to perpetuate whatever indiscretions. So long as some sucker pays.
 
2013-07-30 01:07:15 AM

gadian: So, if the counselors had not intervened, and the girl got pregnant or an STD or somehow a whiff got back the parents about it, what would the parents' reaction be?  Oh right, sue of course.


I am pretty sure the kiss wasn't escalating like a porn shoot.
 
2013-07-30 01:08:25 AM
Is she hot?
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-07-30 01:08:41 AM

HillbillyBubba: I went to camp there! I got the Outdoorsman Award because I used to be an outdoorsy badass type. Now I'm in indoorsy allergic to everything that has pollen type.


Awesome! Did you go to Robert C. Webb and if so how long ago? I felt like a badass when I got a junior hunting and fishing license. The last year I went it was co-ed but they made damn sure the boys and girls couldn't be alone together.
 
2013-07-30 01:11:27 AM
Can we take 600,000.00$ from both sides and give it to one of those "camps for poor kids" organizations?
 
2013-07-30 01:13:53 AM
On a side note:

It's another vapid "reality" show, but I just want to say that I would wreck Melinda from USA's "Summer Camp".
 
2013-07-30 01:14:23 AM
I mean seriously people read the shiat the lawyer put in the suit...

"She quickly developed feelings for" the teen, fictitiously named "Dick," the suit says.
The couple "openly held hands during camp activities," the suit says, and the relationship "became the summer romance that most teens yearn for."
Dick got up the guts to kiss Jane on July 11 during "court time," an activity set up by the counselors for boy and girl campers to spend time with each other, the suit says.
"This kiss was a beautiful, innocent moment," the suit says.
"It was puppy love," said Jane's lawyer, Rosemarie Arnold.
The counselors had "kindly and nurturingly encouraged" Dick to make a move because they knew he'd never kissed a girl and he and Jane had "deep feelings for each other," the suit says.
The counselors high-fived Dick afterwards, the suit said.


This reads like a Judy Bloom primer on teenage love.

Except in the story for the link...

The girl and a male camper reportedly took a moment behind the arts and crafts building to share a kiss, according to the suit.

Lein, according to the suit, said the boy and girl had begun to undress and were "making out."


So yeah is it the camp owner that is saying teens were making out that is wrong or the teenage girl that has built an imaginary world were the staff were high-fiving her boyfriend after kissing?

It is a bit of an overreach on both parts, but I still contend that if the parents had done what normal parents do and just told their daughter not to go off behind the shed with a strange boy that this would not be national news.

I also find this interesting...

She also told Jane, who'd attended the camp for four years and had problems with anxiety and obsessive compulsive disorder, "that she was a slut and/or loose."

So she might have said it was loose behaviour but it seems the lashing out of people about HIPPA violations might just be bullshiat.

Also...just because this is icing on the cake....

Arnold said Dick and Jane are still seeing each other and are "boyfriend and girlfriend."
"Not even Sue Lein can interfere with true love," Arnold said.
 "They're 15-years-old and it's a kiss. That's all it was - an innocent kiss," Arnold said.


Except you know the band striking up and him throwing out his rotator cuff from the high-fives he got, and everyone pushing them to do it. Yeah this stinks really bad, like a bullshiat story a 15 year old girl would come up with.
 
2013-07-30 01:17:38 AM

thiefofdreams: a bullshiat story a 15 year old girl would come up with


You seem awfully sensitive about that.

Would you care to show us on the doll where the underage girl forced you to touch her?
 
2013-07-30 01:22:50 AM

BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: a bullshiat story a 15 year old girl would come up with

You seem awfully sensitive about that.

Would you care to show us on the doll where the underage girl forced you to touch her?


I have a daughter around that age, I watch the fictions they sell their parents about what they were doing and with whom.

I trust my daughter to do what is right.

You seem awfully sensitive about the fact that you only have one side of the story and you are siding with the only side that we have heard. Perhaps you have heard of the three sides to every story?

Yours, Mine, and the Truth.

The truth is somewhere between the camp and girl, I even stated it was an overreach on both sides.

As for you trolling and making it out that I am an predator of underaged girls, perhaps you should just go troll someone else.
 
2013-07-30 01:24:12 AM
the fictions my daughter's friends sell their parents. Is what was meant above, damn spilt my beer and came back and half posted that sentence.
 
2013-07-30 01:26:53 AM
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
Summer Lovin, had me a blast.
 
2013-07-30 01:26:57 AM

pgh9fan: Boy was kicked out as well
http://thenewsfortoday.net/teen-girl-booted-from-summer-camp-by-arme d- guard-for-kissing-boy-suit/


That article mentions that Mom had to cancel a previously planned trip as a result of her daughters no longer being away at camp.  I think we found the problem.  Mommy had some serious plans and the camp screwed her up.  Mommy is pissed!
 
2013-07-30 01:27:57 AM

thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.


But not someone else's.
 
2013-07-30 01:33:52 AM

thiefofdreams: The girl and a male camper reportedly took a moment behind the arts and crafts building to share a kiss, according to the suit.

Lein, according to the suit, said the boy and girl had begun to undress and were "making out."

So yeah is it the camp owner that is saying teens were making out that is wrong or the teenage girl that has built an imaginary world were the staff were high-fiving her boyfriend after kissing?

It is a bit of an overreach on both parts, but I still contend that if the parents had done what normal parents do and just told their daughter not to go off behind the shed with a strange boy that this would not be national news.


After reading the thread, I'm getting the idea that this girl was ejected for more than "just a kiss" and that perhaps the supposed "HIPPA violation" was just a person describing her daughter. I mean, the terms used were not totally clinical.

"Arnold also said Lein shared confidential information about the girl, telling other campers she suffers from anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, and low self-esteem.  " Without a direct quote I can imagine several simple ways she could have "divulged" what everyone that had to be around her knew. I'm sure everyone here can also imagine variations on "this uptight twat..."
 
2013-07-30 01:34:38 AM

BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.

But not someone else's.


Read above, she is claiming the boy was high fived after the kiss and pushed to kiss the girl during an event that had all the kids from both sides of the camp there.

My daughter has been to multiple camps and I just asked her what happens when kids are caught. They get kicked out. I asked if the camp staff would have ever promoted those things that happened. She looked at me like it was a stupid question. She told me that they would never and anyone even joke kissing was called out.

So on one side I have personal experiences from my daughter directly contradicting the, how was it put...

"This kiss was a beautiful, innocent moment," the suit says.
The counselors high-fived Dick afterwards, the suit said.


So yeah, I am going to say that the camp was enforcing rules and someone's princess got caught and now there is a lawsuit. So yes, I think the daughter is trying to dig herself out of the hole she is in.
 
2013-07-30 01:35:59 AM

thiefofdreams: BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.

But not someone else's.

Read above, she is claiming the boy was high fived after the kiss and pushed to kiss the girl during an event that had all the kids from both sides of the camp there.

My daughter has been to multiple camps and I just asked her what happens when kids are caught. They get kicked out. I asked if the camp staff would have ever promoted those things that happened. She looked at me like it was a stupid question. She told me that they would never and anyone even joke kissing was called out.

So on one side I have personal experiences from my daughter directly contradicting the, how was it put...

"This kiss was a beautiful, innocent moment," the suit says.
The counselors high-fived Dick afterwards, the suit said.

So yeah, I am going to say that the camp was enforcing rules and someone's princess got caught and now there is a lawsuit. So yes, I think the daughter is trying to dig herself out of the hole she is in.


You are an old, loveless, miserable man.

I feel sorry for your daughter.
 
2013-07-30 01:37:19 AM

BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.

But not someone else's.


I wouldn't trust a teenaged girl caught doing anything bad to tell anything remotely resembling the truth. Thiefofdreams is speaking honestly as a parent.
 
2013-07-30 01:42:28 AM

Fano: BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.

But not someone else's.

I wouldn't trust a teenaged girl caught doing anything bad to tell anything remotely resembling the truth. Thiefofdreams is speaking honestly as a parent.


He trusts his daughter implicitly, do you hereby call her honor into question?
 
2013-07-30 01:43:10 AM

BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.

But not someone else's.

Read above, she is claiming the boy was high fived after the kiss and pushed to kiss the girl during an event that had all the kids from both sides of the camp there.

My daughter has been to multiple camps and I just asked her what happens when kids are caught. They get kicked out. I asked if the camp staff would have ever promoted those things that happened. She looked at me like it was a stupid question. She told me that they would never and anyone even joke kissing was called out.

So on one side I have personal experiences from my daughter directly contradicting the, how was it put...

"This kiss was a beautiful, innocent moment," the suit says.
The counselors high-fived Dick afterwards, the suit said.

So yeah, I am going to say that the camp was enforcing rules and someone's princess got caught and now there is a lawsuit. So yes, I think the daughter is trying to dig herself out of the hole she is in.

You are an old, loveless, miserable man.

I feel sorry for your daughter.


I don't my daughter has been raised to understand rules and why you don't break them. She knows she can honestly talk to us about anything and we will not judge. I was the second person she told when she lost her virginity(mom was the first) and my only concerns were was she forced into it and once I knew she was not, I made sure she used protection. We are an open honest and loving household that has rules. I am not against sex or a prude or a miserable old man as you put it. I am simply speaking from years of knowledge on the subject of raising a daughter. She is 16, I knew she would have sex, I am glad as a parent she trusted me enough to come to us and make sure she did it safely.

I would do what the boy's parents did, remove him from camp, and then decide on a punishment. I would not sue the school to drag her personal business across the AP wire that is for damn sure.

Perhaps the mental state of the parents needs to be looked at as they have so little regard for their daughter that they are using the event for publicity and to make a dollar.
 
2013-07-30 01:44:12 AM

Fano: BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.

But not someone else's.

I wouldn't trust a teenaged girl caught doing anything bad to tell anything remotely resembling the truth. Thiefofdreams is speaking honestly as a parent.


My only daughter recently turned 19.   You wouldn't even know she's the same person from four or five years ago.

I wonder if boys are as bad.  Or do you just educate them on condoms, tell them not to drive drunk and send them on their merry way.
 
2013-07-30 01:47:40 AM

BuckTurgidson: Fano: BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.

But not someone else's.

I wouldn't trust a teenaged girl caught doing anything bad to tell anything remotely resembling the truth. Thiefofdreams is speaking honestly as a parent.

He trusts his daughter implicitly, do you hereby call her honor into question?


Again, if the same situation arose with my daughter at camp(it never did) I would have contacted the camp and found out what was actually going on. I would not have thrown a hissy fit and written a lawsuit that sounds like a Harlequin romance novel.

She is sitting right here reading over my shoulder and is just shaking her head at you. She read the story and was laughing about how the girl was obviously making this into a huge deal and that this is how her friends react whenever they get caught.
 
2013-07-30 01:49:33 AM

BuckTurgidson: Fano: BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.

But not someone else's.

I wouldn't trust a teenaged girl caught doing anything bad to tell anything remotely resembling the truth. Thiefofdreams is speaking honestly as a parent.

He trusts his daughter implicitly, do you hereby call her honor into question?


Nope, you seem to be hard of thinking and with a hard on for thiefofdreams.
 
2013-07-30 01:52:01 AM

thiefofdreams: BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.

But not someone else's.

Read above, she is claiming the boy was high fived after the kiss and pushed to kiss the girl during an event that had all the kids from both sides of the camp there.

My daughter has been to multiple camps and I just asked her what happens when kids are caught. They get kicked out. I asked if the camp staff would have ever promoted those things that happened. She looked at me like it was a stupid question. She told me that they would never and anyone even joke kissing was called out.

So on one side I have personal experiences from my daughter directly contradicting the, how was it put...

"This kiss was a beautiful, innocent moment," the suit says.
The counselors high-fived Dick afterwards, the suit said.

So yeah, I am going to say that the camp was enforcing rules and someone's princess got caught and now there is a lawsuit. So yes, I think the daughter is trying to dig herself out of the hole she is in.

You are an old, loveless, miserable man.

I feel sorry for your daughter.

I don't my daughter has been raised to understand rules and why you don't break them. She knows she can honestly talk to us about anything and we will not judge. I was the second person she told when she lost her virginity(mom was the first) and my only concerns were was she forced into it and once I knew she was not, I made sure she used protection. We are an open honest and loving household that has rules. I am not against sex or a prude or a miserable old man as you put it. I am simply speaking from years of knowledge on the subject of raising a daughter. She is 16, I knew she would have sex, I am glad as a parent she trusted me enough to come to us and make sure she did it safely..


That was fairly well stated, sir.

Usually, that's followed by a "but I must add..." however I'll just wish you all a fine evening and it was a pleasure to converse with you.
 
2013-07-30 01:56:06 AM

thiefofdreams: Again, if the same situation arose with my daughter at camp(it never did) I would have contacted the camp and found out what was actually going on. I would not have thrown a hissy fit


Last point - if you'd paid the camp $6,000 for a week of camp, you might have thrown something, after all.
 
2013-07-30 01:58:20 AM

thiefofdreams: BuckTurgidson: Fano: BuckTurgidson: thiefofdreams: I trust my daughter to do what is right.

But not someone else's.

I wouldn't trust a teenaged girl caught doing anything bad to tell anything remotely resembling the truth. Thiefofdreams is speaking honestly as a parent.

He trusts his daughter implicitly, do you hereby call her honor into question?

Again, if the same situation arose with my daughter at camp(it never did) I would have contacted the camp and found out what was actually going on. I would not have thrown a hissy fit and written a lawsuit that sounds like a Harlequin romance novel.

She is sitting right here reading over my shoulder and is just shaking her head at you. She read the story and was laughing about how the girl was obviously making this into a huge deal and that this is how her friends react whenever they get caught.


I cannot comprehend that someone cannot understand the level of deceit that a kid is capable of when it comes to saving their ass.  I agree with you that the high five beautiful moment is like the sort of fantasy some twilight reading kid might think sounded believable.
 
2013-07-30 02:01:02 AM
I was a summer camp counselor / director for a decade.

It was explicitly stated in the rules, for instance, that boys weren't allowed in the girls area at night -

So if kids were caught sneaking into places they knew they weren't supposed to go (generally to get busy in one sense or another), they'd generally be kicked out -- (didn't happen all that often, once every five years maybe? ...and not to the kids in my unit [they were too smart to get caught.  Apparently when some of my counselors were dropping some older kids off at the airport, they turned around and admitted to sneaking the 3 miles to the girls' camp and getting it on...then dropped the mic and boarded their planes like badasses).

In this instance, hard to know what really happened - seems like the article got most of the info. from the parents' lawyers.  Seems unreasonable that having a police officer would be the camp's standard policy  - but maybe if the camp was afraid of the client's family going crazy, that might have something to do with it.

If camp director Lein really did say what they say she said, then it's a problem - but it's very possible this is a mixture of camper-who-screwed-up-blaming-authority and parents-overprotective-of-snowflake-not-accepting-responsibility.

It sounds like they were getting it on in the middle of the day, in not-that-out-of-sight areas...Dumb kids.

If Lein really reacted to that situation (in terms of the info. sharing and the slut-shaming, not necessarily in terms of the specific disciplinary action), then she's a dumb director.
 
2013-07-30 02:10:25 AM

Lachwen: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Divulging psychiatric / medical info gets your ass ultrasued in the US, doesn't it?

/I ask cos it's not like you have a lot of laws protecting people's rights to privacy down there

Honestly, at this point I need independent verification of the screaming and divulging of personal information (say, from other councilors or campers) before I'll believe the accusation.  Let's look at the credibility of the charges so far:

"According to the girl's lawyer, Rosemarie Arnold of Fort Lee, N.J., kissing is not against the rules at the camp."

"The camp's code of conduct states that, 'depending on the severity of the act, a camper can be sent home for the first strike.'  The code of conduct also prohibits 'sexual relations or physical contact with another person (opposite or same sex).'"

"Kissing isn't against the rules!!!"  ...except that it is, precious.  Unless this is some form of kissing that involves never actually making physical contact with your partner.

"Arnold said her client, who had attended the camp for four years, maintains that the incident did not warrant immediate expulsion."

"Lein, according to the suit, said the boy and girl had begun to undress and were 'making out.'"

...yeah, I'm sorry, I'm siding with the camp here.  If the kids are getting into it to the point that they're starting to take off clothing, send their asses home.

Oh, and then there's the fact that the mother is suing for (among other things) "negligent supervision," even though  they farking well caught the kids before they could finish taking each other's clothes off.

Yeah.  Definitely leery of the "they yelled at my precious snowflake in front of all the other kids and told them her personal problems!" charge here.  I'll need to hear it from more than a single source that seems to think kissing doesn't count as physical contact or that horny barely-teens actively trying to get each other naked isn't grounds to kick said teens out of camp.



Not to mention, that the parents and the lawyers just told the whole farking world what the girl's medical/mental problems are, by making them part of a lawsuit and having them printed in the farking newspaper.  And now her low self esteem issues and her sexcapades are getting mocked on Fark.com
 
2013-07-30 02:10:49 AM
Wait a minute, the camp felt it necessary to  call the police over this?
 
2013-07-30 02:11:56 AM
you know who else sent children to camps?


/never been to camp...have no plans to ever send my kids to one
 
2013-07-30 02:14:33 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The head counselor chewed her out in front of the entire camp, and she did it by insulting her with privileged, private medical information.


Allegedly.

Remember, this is from the lawyer, who claimed that "kissing is not against the rules at the camp" despite the fact that "the code of conduct also prohibits "sexual relations or physical contact with another person (opposite or same sex)".

So I'd take any other accusations she makes with a large, heaping spoonful of salt.
 
2013-07-30 02:15:39 AM

digitalrain: Adults shouldn't free the fark out over perfectly NORMAL emerging sexual urges in teenagers. Kids
should be taught that it is perfectly normal. They should be taught that some age appropriate level
of experimenting is  OK but a) both parties must be consenting, b) if one party puts on the brakes,
that's it. No coercion,and c) it isn't cool to fark with someone and lead them on only to drop them cold
(though item b stillapplies regardless).


You are an idiot. If your teen daughter came home from camp pregnant, because of her perfectly normal and consenting experimenting, you would be suing the camp for not stopping her from spreading her legs, and you know it. And your last two points totally contradict each other.
 
2013-07-30 02:17:03 AM

doglover: Colleges don't need insurance for young kids, overnight supervision, uniforms, or a canoe for everyone. College students bring most of their own stuff, assume legal responsibilities, and are only there three times a week during business hours.


This is true. Canoes and canvas tents are very expensive compared to computer labs and climate-controlled buildings. And I imagine paying a bunch of camp counselors 10 bucks an hour is way more than PhD's ask for. /s
 
2013-07-30 02:18:37 AM

mcnguyen: Wait a minute, the camp felt it necessary to  call the police over this?


The camp director claims ' 'the boy and girl had begun to undress and were "making out." ' '

Depending on age (and age difference), it could be something they thought worthy of reporting to the police, given Connecticut's laws regarding underage sex.
 
2013-07-30 02:19:26 AM

jtown: Omahawg: are you ready for the summer?
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Ah, the 70s.  When a girl could go from hardcore porn to a kids' movie and nobody batted an eye.


Bill Murray did hardcore porn?
 
2013-07-30 02:19:31 AM

Fano: I cannot comprehend that someone cannot understand the level of deceit that a kid is capable of


I endeavored to raise that point at trial but did THAT work out? Not so much.

How'd it work out for you, by the way?
 
2013-07-30 02:20:35 AM

digitalrain: Adults shouldn't free the fark out over perfectly NORMAL emerging sexual urges in teenagers.


They should when they are responsible for the teenagers and laws make them liable for anything the teen does and anything that happens to the teen.
 
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