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(Sports Illustrated)   In a preview of things to come, soccer player dies after playing in Qatar heat   (sportsillustrated.cnn.com) divider line 77
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2013-07-29 08:19:18 PM
No way they play in the summer in 2022 without air conditioning
 
2013-07-29 09:07:49 PM

SlothB77: No way they play in the summer in 2022 without air conditioning


It'll be in like, November, I've read. No sources, sorry.
 
2013-07-29 09:15:49 PM

neuroflare: SlothB77: No way they play in the summer in 2022 without air conditioning

It'll be in like, November, I've read. No sources, sorry.


Blatter is paying people for that, but no one wants it. Qatar had no intention of building the actual stadiums it promised, no booze or limited booze, and no woman is safe the moment the plane lands.
 
2013-07-29 09:46:43 PM

TheManofPA: neuroflare: SlothB77: No way they play in the summer in 2022 without air conditioning

It'll be in like, November, I've read. No sources, sorry.

Blatter is paying people for that, but no one wants it. Qatar had no intention of building the actual stadiums it promised, no booze or limited booze, and no woman is safe the moment the plane lands.


it's a complete mess. Just like everybody said it would be. I honestly have no idea how they're going to salvage this nightmare. So stupid.
 
2013-07-29 09:59:07 PM
The optimist in me hopes this is the beginning of the end of the corruption in FIFA.

The realist in me just beat the sh*t out of the optimist and stole his lunch money.
 
2013-07-29 10:03:35 PM

cameroncrazy1984: The optimist in me hopes this is the beginning of the end of the corruption in FIFA.


t3.gstatic.com

/The IOC has been in tons of scandals and they're as corrupt as ever
//The only thing that might happen is that FIFA might get smarter and do a better job hiding their corruption
///Still...I admire the optimism.
 
2013-07-29 10:04:33 PM

cameroncrazy1984: The optimist in me hopes this is the beginning of the end of the corruption in FIFA.

The realist in me just beat the sh*t out of the optimist and stole his lunch money.


LOL
 
2013-07-29 10:05:49 PM
In the year 2000, all international sporting competitions will be held in repressive police state theocracies. Medals will be awarded in the 200 meter Russian Roulette and Uneven Talibans.
 
2013-07-29 10:07:43 PM

neuroflare: SlothB77: No way they play in the summer in 2022 without air conditioning

It'll be in like, November, I've read. No sources, sorry.


Thing is, I doubt any manager on the planet is prepared to give up their best players for 6 league matches and 2-5 other competition matches in the winter with relatively high odds that they'll get injured and be put out of action for another 3 months.
 
2013-07-29 10:07:50 PM
Does this mean that interest in soccer will spike in the US? Potential death is the reason that turning left in a car has become a 'sport'
 
2013-07-29 10:08:53 PM
So either they won't have the WC in Qatar again or a bunch of soccer players die. Win-win.
 
2013-07-29 10:09:57 PM
I believe those that voted for Qatar should be kicked in the balls, then shot in the knees.
 
2013-07-29 10:42:59 PM

SmackLT: cameroncrazy1984: The optimist in me hopes this is the beginning of the end of the corruption in FIFA.

The realist in me just beat the sh*t out of the optimist and stole his lunch money.

LOL


When keeping it real goes wrong profitably
 
2013-07-29 10:47:23 PM
it's all the premier league's fault.   if only they'd be reasonable and change their whole season around to allow fifa to save face for cocking up 2022 so badly
 
2013-07-29 10:48:31 PM
Plan B

World Cup 2022: United States of America


F*cking make it happen.
 
2013-07-29 10:53:49 PM

Rev.K: Plan B

World Cup 2022: United States of America


F*cking make it happen.


http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1508920/us-not-asked-fill-2014-202 2- world-cups?cc=5901

Never underestimate man's ability to push ahead strongly into a terrible direction solely to avoid having to admit you were wrong.
 
2013-07-29 10:56:58 PM
Oh now they will be lording it over all of us bragging about their heat.
 
2013-07-29 10:57:13 PM
I really think that this whole mess could lead to a major revolt against FIFA from the clubs and mainly European associations. They've been sick of the BS from FIFA for a while now and moving a World Cup to the middle of their seasons would probably be the last straw.

Either way, a Qatar WC is not going to happen. Too many important people are against it and Blatter can't pay them all off.
 
2013-07-29 11:04:23 PM

Makh: Oh now they will be lording it over all of us bragging about their heat.


Mr. President, we must not allow a heat gap!
 
2013-07-29 11:05:29 PM
From what I have read from Mexican sources, the guy was a MASSIVE star down there, the heat didn't have anything to do with his death. His wife told ESPN Deportes that they were left waiting for two hours in a hospital while Benitez suffered severe abdominal pain, after saying "take care of my kids" he started to have seizures and passed away. The theory is that he had a heart attack fueled by peritonitis.

Remember kids, if you are a soccer player avoid playing for Club America in Mexico. First Cabanas gets shot in the head, and then this.
 
2013-07-29 11:08:23 PM
So the men will get kidnapped in Brazil in 2014, and then the women in in 2022. This will all go over so well.

Perhaps they can change the rules a bit for 2022. You know, to keep the players safe. Perhaps they can do something so they aren't running around as much. maybe have them ride something? Like a horse? Hmm. Might be hard to find many horses there. What large creature, that does well in the desert, and can be found in plentiful numbers, might we find in Qatar? I just can't think of any...
 
2013-07-29 11:11:11 PM

LemSkroob: So the men will get kidnapped in Brazil in 2014, and then the women in in 2022. This will all go over so well.


so russia 2018 is going to be the best of the lot?  no violence or lawlessness there...lol
 
2013-07-29 11:13:21 PM

SmackLT: TheManofPA: neuroflare: SlothB77: No way they play in the summer in 2022 without air conditioning

It'll be in like, November, I've read. No sources, sorry.

Blatter is paying people for that, but no one wants it. Qatar had no intention of building the actual stadiums it promised, no booze or limited booze, and no woman is safe the moment the plane lands.

it's a complete mess. Just like everybody said it would be. I honestly have no idea how they're going to salvage this nightmare. So stupid.


What was funny is that when Qatar got the World Cup, everyone was assured that it would be OK because Qatar would build these state of the art air conditioned stadiums (stadia?).  But soon after that, they were saying "Well, we can't actually build an air conditioned stadium, but we'll have some spray bottles around, and a fan or two."
 
2013-07-29 11:14:49 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: LemSkroob: So the men will get kidnapped in Brazil in 2014, and then the women in in 2022. This will all go over so well.

so russia 2018 is going to be the best of the lot?  no violence or lawlessness there...lol


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-29 11:15:52 PM

Trocadero: Rev.K: Plan B

World Cup 2022: United States of America


F*cking make it happen.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1508920/us-not-asked-fill-2014-202 2- world-cups?cc=5901

Never underestimate man's ability to push ahead strongly into a terrible direction solely to avoid having to admit you were wrong.


Even if they do go to the US, they will ask much later down the line (probably with a year).  With all of our empty stadiums, you could almost flip a switch and host a world cup here.  For example, the top Big 10 stadiums are larger than the top stadiums from the last world cup, and they are all sitting empty in the summer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup
http://www.frontiernet.net/~bchaffee/bigtenstadiums.htm
 
2013-07-29 11:21:30 PM
Not only does Qatar have yet to begin building the stadium in which the final is going to be played,  they have yet to build the city that the stadium will be located in.
 
2013-07-29 11:31:33 PM

JorgiX: From what I have read from Mexican sources, the guy was a MASSIVE star down there, the heat didn't have anything to do with his death. His wife told ESPN Deportes that they were left waiting for two hours in a hospital while Benitez suffered severe abdominal pain, after saying "take care of my kids" he started to have seizures and passed away. The theory is that he had a heart attack fueled by peritonitis.

Remember kids, if you are a soccer player avoid playing for Club America in Mexico. First Cabanas gets shot in the head, and then this.


It makes me wonder why he was playing in Qatar and not one of the better football leagues around (I know most Euro leagues are off during the summer). If he wanted to die in a hospital waiting room, he could have done that in the US.
 
2013-07-29 11:36:32 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: so russia 2018 is going to be the best of the lot?  no violence or lawlessness there...lol


Brazil would be the only one I'd even think of going to, fark Russia and Qatar.
 
2013-07-29 11:53:12 PM
fark with Qatar by holding the games in Jerry's world and UoP stadium, just to show them how deserts host games.
 
2013-07-30 12:08:31 AM
well nothing says it was heat related.  Its not like Mexico is  much cooler.
 
2013-07-30 12:25:23 AM

neuroflare: fark with Qatar by holding the games in Jerry's world and UoP stadium, just to show them how deserts host games.


DFW is the desert?
 
2013-07-30 12:37:40 AM

TheJoe03: neuroflare: fark with Qatar by holding the games in Jerry's world and UoP stadium, just to show them how deserts host games.

DFW is the desert?


not quite, no. it's still shiatty.
 
2013-07-30 12:42:38 AM

neuroflare: not quite, no. it's still shiatty.


Waaaay better than Tempe.

/Not quite is an understatement, way more rain in Dallas than I see here in California.
 
2013-07-30 12:46:51 AM

RogermcAllen: Trocadero: Rev.K: Plan B

World Cup 2022: United States of America


F*cking make it happen.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1508920/us-not-asked-fill-2014-202 2- world-cups?cc=5901

Never underestimate man's ability to push ahead strongly into a terrible direction solely to avoid having to admit you were wrong.

Even if they do go to the US, they will ask much later down the line (probably with a year).  With all of our empty stadiums, you could almost flip a switch and host a world cup here.  For example, the top Big 10 stadiums are larger than the top stadiums from the last world cup, and they are all sitting empty in the summer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup
http://www.frontiernet.net/~bchaffee/bigtenstadiums.htm


Other than Oakland every NFL stadium is bigger than the top 3 on that list.  Schedule before preseason starts and who would say no?
 
2013-07-30 12:54:38 AM

Scythed: Not only does Qatar have yet to begin building the stadium in which the final is going to be played,  they have yet to build the city that the stadium will be located in.


It's the Persian/Arabian Gulf we're talking about here. It can be done.

seeker401.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-30 01:20:33 AM

RogermcAllen: Trocadero: Rev.K: Plan B

World Cup 2022: United States of America


F*cking make it happen.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1508920/us-not-asked-fill-2014-202 2- world-cups?cc=5901

Never underestimate man's ability to push ahead strongly into a terrible direction solely to avoid having to admit you were wrong.

Even if they do go to the US, they will ask much later down the line (probably with a year).  With all of our empty stadiums, you could almost flip a switch and host a world cup here.  For example, the top Big 10 stadiums are larger than the top stadiums from the last world cup, and they are all sitting empty in the summer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup
http://www.frontiernet.net/~bchaffee/bigtenstadiums.htm


FIFA takes a whole lot more into consideration than seating capacity.  Half of those stadiums have an artificial surface and places like beaver and the horseshoe fields are just big enough for college football.  But yes, I believe the US could host the tournament at the drop of a hat, but the MLS would insist on having it the 35K seat soccer specific stadiums just like overseas.
 
2013-07-30 01:21:36 AM
Just save face and give it to USA. It is perpetually world cup ready. There are 70+ uefa 5 star type stadiums and a horde of 4 stars and others that would need only slight touching up to get ready. I don't think the world knows just how many medium to large stadiums this country has. There are high school football teams that would put half of the Prem's stadia to shame.

/Just whatever happens..don't go through with this Qatar farce.
 
2013-07-30 01:43:55 AM

DemoKnite: FIFA takes a whole lot more into consideration than seating capacity.  Half of those stadiums have an artificial surface and places like beaver and the horseshoe fields are just big enough for college football.  But yes, I believe the US could host the tournament at the drop of a hat, but the MLS would insist on having it the 35K seat soccer specific stadiums just like overseas.


There is exactly one MLS stadium that seats 35000+ during games.  There are three others that could do 35000, but don't in their MLS configuration.

You'd have to use NFL or college football stadiums to seat 35000+ per game in the US.
 
2013-07-30 01:51:53 AM

davidphogan: DemoKnite: FIFA takes a whole lot more into consideration than seating capacity.  Half of those stadiums have an artificial surface and places like beaver and the horseshoe fields are just big enough for college football.  But yes, I believe the US could host the tournament at the drop of a hat, but the MLS would insist on having it the 35K seat soccer specific stadiums just like overseas.

There is exactly one MLS stadium that seats 35000+ during games.  There are three others that could do 35000, but don't in their MLS configuration.

You'd have to use NFL or college football stadiums to seat 35000+ per game in the US.


I stand corrected.  I just looked up four soccer specific stadiums (stadia?) and they were all in the 20K's.  Weak sauce.  I guess we would have to have it at some of these new places like Soldier Field, the place in Seattle, and Jerry's World if they resurfaced it better than they did at the Gold Cup.  I think the New Gillette and the Giants/Jets house were also designed with international soccer in mind.
 
2013-07-30 01:58:33 AM
They won't give it to the U.S. because they hate perpetuating the idea that the United States is going to "save the day" once again in a major world event.
 
2013-07-30 02:11:38 AM
The best part about FIFA being so corrupt they will literally kill soccer players and fans to hold the 2022 Cup in Qatar is that they managed to overshadow how ridiculous it was that the 2018 Cup went to Russia instead of England.
 
2013-07-30 02:19:38 AM

VvonderJesus: They won't give it to the U.S. because they hate perpetuating the idea that the United States is going to "save the day" once again in a major world event.


That's certainly true.

I'd add that the U.S. is probably viewed as not having enough reverence for the game itself and wouldn't properly appreciate the honor that hosting the World Cup is.
 
2013-07-30 02:24:54 AM

TomD9938: I'd add that the U.S. is probably viewed as not having enough reverence for the game itself and wouldn't properly appreciate the honor that hosting the World Cup is.


But Russia does?
 
2013-07-30 02:44:21 AM

TheJoe03: TomD9938: I'd add that the U.S. is probably viewed as not having enough reverence for the game itself and wouldn't properly appreciate the honor that hosting the World Cup is.

But Russia does?


I've really no idea.  They're big on basketball and hockey (winter sports), it wouldnt surprise me if soccer fills the void the rest of the year.

That said, if it were my call I'd say have it just outside of London every four years.

Might rain a bit, but 70 degrees and drizzly is nice Soccer weather and you know the Brits could pull it off time and again.
 
2013-07-30 02:51:21 AM

DemoKnite: I stand corrected.  I just looked up four soccer specific stadiums (stadia?) and they were all in the 20K's.  Weak sauce.  I guess we would have to have it at some of these new places like Soldier Field, the place in Seattle, and Jerry's World if they resurfaced it better than they did at the Gold Cup.  I think the New Gillette and the Giants/Jets house were also designed with international soccer in mind.


There's a big reason the Timbers can sell out games so easily.  The Blazers manage to, and they're barely a professional team.  Portland likes our sports, but we're just suckers for football, basketball and hockey.  Baseball never figured this out.

Anyway, yeah.  If we're going to host World Cup games we need every stadium selected to be prepared to reconfigure in whatever way is possible into a soccer stadium (except Qwest or Century Link or whatever in Seattle, which fortunately would help a bid since they have a few direct flights to Europe, plus at least one to Asia and S America) to really make sense.

I'm sure that we could pull it off, but could we do so in a way that would actually make the US seem like a place soccer tournaments make sense?
 
2013-07-30 03:10:57 AM

davidphogan: DemoKnite: I stand corrected.  I just looked up four soccer specific stadiums (stadia?) and they were all in the 20K's.  Weak sauce.  I guess we would have to have it at some of these new places like Soldier Field, the place in Seattle, and Jerry's World if they resurfaced it better than they did at the Gold Cup.  I think the New Gillette and the Giants/Jets house were also designed with international soccer in mind.

There's a big reason the Timbers can sell out games so easily.  The Blazers manage to, and they're barely a professional team.  Portland likes our sports, but we're just suckers for football, basketball and hockey.  Baseball never figured this out.

Anyway, yeah.  If we're going to host World Cup games we need every stadium selected to be prepared to reconfigure in whatever way is possible into a soccer stadium (except Qwest or Century Link or whatever in Seattle, which fortunately would help a bid since they have a few direct flights to Europe, plus at least one to Asia and S America) to really make sense.

I'm sure that we could pull it off, but could we do so in a way that would actually make the US seem like a place soccer tournaments make sense?


They don't need to make sense. They need to make money. And the World Cup here will make money like you wouldn't believe.
 
2013-07-30 03:22:29 AM

fastbow: They don't need to make sense. They need to make money. And the World Cup here will make money like you wouldn't believe.


Yep. They'd sell out any venue they play in and we have the best infrastructure for stadiums. It would be like several mini Super Bowl type atmospheres in all the major cities they'd be in. Sure soccer isn't a top 5 sport but there's still 10s of millions of people that follow the game and a World Cup in the US would be heavily covered by the US media. Having the World Cup in the US is a no brainer.
 
2013-07-30 03:35:32 AM

lumiere: Scythed: Not only does Qatar have yet to begin building the stadium in which the final is going to be played,  they have yet to build the city that the stadium will be located in.

It's the Persian/Arabian Gulf we're talking about here. It can be done.

[seeker401.files.wordpress.com image 468x624]


At some point, the desert will reclaim it's rightful place. It is a matter of time.
 
2013-07-30 03:58:14 AM

davidphogan: DemoKnite: FIFA takes a whole lot more into consideration than seating capacity.  Half of those stadiums have an artificial surface and places like beaver and the horseshoe fields are just big enough for college football.  But yes, I believe the US could host the tournament at the drop of a hat, but the MLS would insist on having it the 35K seat soccer specific stadiums just like overseas.

There is exactly one MLS stadium that seats 35000+ during games.  There are three others that could do 35000, but don't in their MLS configuration.

You'd have to use NFL or college football stadiums to seat 35000+ per game in the US.


Well, the Rose Bowl hosted the Galaxy until they moved to Home Depot, and the Rose Bowl is a great venue for any worldwide event with a very prime location, infrastructure, etc, unlike the person mentioning Big10 cities earlier.  Who the hell wants to go to Columbus Ohio for a worldwide event?  Plus, there are a good deal of nearby venues that can host games if they are run concurrently, the worst condition being the Coliseum, which is still in better condition than many foreign soccer venues.
 
2013-07-30 04:13:53 AM

Scythed: Not only does Qatar have yet to begin building the stadium in which the final is going to be played,  they have yet to build the city that the stadium will be located in.


They have a a shiatload of money and access to slave labor.. They'll finish with time to spare.

/FIFA and its sponsors should be deeply ashamed but I doubt its possible for them to feel anything but greed, contempt and arrogance.
 
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