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(Mental Floss)   When you mock someone's accent, you come off as an idiot. Not because you're being a jerk. It's because you're doing it wrong   (mentalfloss.com) divider line 154
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2013-07-29 10:31:14 PM  

divx88: Sounds like authentic frontier gibberish to me.


I think that guy needs a frontier psychiatrist.
 
2013-07-29 10:33:54 PM  

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2013-07-29 10:36:00 PM  

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2013-07-29 10:36:09 PM  
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2013-07-29 10:44:12 PM  
My favorite example is a local sports radio personality (who's white and a former NFL player) that unconsciously changes his entire speech pattern and word choices only when he interviews a black person. It's so painfully obvious to everyone, but himself and his program director apparently, that he's doing this. Of course, he's also using outdated slang and that's extra cringe worthy. "I totally agree" = "Tru dat." Ugh.
 
2013-07-29 10:47:33 PM  
"Where's that at?"
Irritating.
 
2013-07-29 10:49:09 PM  

Combustion: In the Pacific Northwest, a "Half Rack" is a 12 pack of beer.

/I have nothing to add
//but a halfrack.


The only PNW regionalism I can really pinpoint is the word "spendy."  Used where the rest of the country would say "pricey."
 
2013-07-29 10:50:04 PM  

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Why would you post this?
 
2013-07-29 10:50:57 PM  

Betep: "Where's that at?"
Irritating.


Perfectly acceptable.
 
2013-07-29 10:51:53 PM  

uknowzit: Guuberre: How all y'all doin'?

all y'all is the plural


No, "y'all" is plural.  "all y'all" means "all of you," which is distinct from "you (plural)."
 
2013-07-29 10:55:26 PM  

picturescrazy: Betep: "Where's that at?"
Irritating.

Perfectly acceptable.


A where dat?
 
2013-07-29 10:58:43 PM  

Wasteland: DubtodaIll: I'm Georgian and have never heard someone say "liketa". Maybe it's an Bama thing.

If it is, it's not just from the South proper; it's fairly common in at least some parts of Appalachia as well.

Fix or fixin', used to mean either "preparing to take some action" or "making something," is the one that drives my (Michigan-born) wife nuts.


Why should "fixing to" bother anyone?   It's a perfectly normal usage, like "fix lunch."  You're just using a verbal noun instead of a (regular) noun.  It's no more "wrong" than, say, to use "love" with both "I love to fish" and "I love fish."
 
2013-07-29 11:01:33 PM  

Buggar: All y'all people that use the term "you guys" to describe mixed gender groups or even to address a group of females, are just being rude!


I spent a brief period of my life in the southern part of the US, and got chastised for that quite a bit, never stopped me though  ;)
 
2013-07-29 11:05:35 PM  

ciberido: It's no more "wrong" than, say, ... "I love fish."


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2013-07-29 11:24:30 PM  

wellreadneck: Fano: bubo_sibiricus: It's hilarious when Hollywood actors try to do New England accents, like everyone in The Departed except Mark Wahlberg(he's a native of Dorchester) and especially Kevin Costner in Thirteen Days.

Unless you grew up here, you'll never get it right.

--
BMO

I don't believe I've ever heard a West Virginian accent done right in movies. Although, I don't remember Matewan very well.

It's as if you have to had some exposure to hillbillies in your youth or or come from some other English-speaking country to do that accent even passably.


West Virginian dialect is a peculiar blend of southern hillbilly, with some harder accent from Pittsburg mixed in. It usually gets represented as a full southern drawl.
 
2013-07-29 11:25:52 PM  
 
2013-07-29 11:27:21 PM  
HE SAID THE SHERIFF IS NEAR

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2013-07-29 11:41:32 PM  

Guuberre: uknowzit: Guuberre: How all y'all doin'?

all y'all is the plural

Bless your heart!

/Georgia native.


Fano: wellreadneck: Fano: bubo_sibiricus: It's hilarious when Hollywood actors try to do New England accents, like everyone in The Departed except Mark Wahlberg(he's a native of Dorchester) and especially Kevin Costner in Thirteen Days.

Unless you grew up here, you'll never get it right.

--
BMO

I don't believe I've ever heard a West Virginian accent done right in movies. Although, I don't remember Matewan very well.

It's as if you have to had some exposure to hillbillies in your youth or or come from some other English-speaking country to do that accent even passably.

West Virginian dialect is a peculiar blend of southern hillbilly, with some harder accent from Pittsburg mixed in. It usually gets represented as a full southern drawl.


I lived in Wheeling WV.  they have a Ohio valley accent.  drive 12 miles south to Moundsville WV.  Southern.

Pittsburger's  what I remember is   "you uns"
 
2013-07-29 11:41:35 PM  
I'm now slightly confused.  Most of my family uses the word "liketa" from time to time.  And while some of us now live in the South, the family roots and family accent are decidedly Mid-Western.  At the very least, based on the "rules" mentioned in the article, they all use it correctly.

Also, I'm very familiar with the term "BIN", though I don't use it, but I've never seen someone spell it "bin".  The meaning doesn't come from the spelling, in that regard I've never seen it distinguished.  It's typically the context and sentence syntax that differentiate the two.  I guess I'm wrong, I'm not a linguist, and I ain't been tried to be.
 
2013-07-30 12:02:06 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: WordyGrrl: He'll pick up the local accent he's been making fun of without realizing he's done it and his homies in the UK will laugh and laugh at him.

He still sounds Bri'ish but his homies already mock him for a transatlantic accent.

stellarossa: Now I'm Scottish and she was weaving from posh English to Cockney

You could have gone full Scots-English on her but since you were working a charity event that might have had a detrimental effect.

kg2095: Most of the British are appalling speakers of English

Buddy is from Brighton but is university educated so he has a clear, English accent without it being BBC  English.


Had a Scottish friend who immigrated here (Texas) after living with her husband in Canada for several years. She would say stuff like, "Hey, y'all I'm fixing to put the ke'(t)le on, eh?" And not even realize she'd done it.
 
2013-07-30 12:12:36 AM  
Biden's Indian accent was really poor.  Those unfortunate 7-11 works mocked by the VP.
 
2013-07-30 12:12:44 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: ciberido: It's no more "wrong" than, say, ... "I love fish."

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I was thinking of Vladimir Putin.

And yes, there's a Fark thread.
 
2013-07-30 01:14:42 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Biden's Indian accent was really poor.  Those unfortunate 7-11 works mocked by the VP.


Lulz.
 
2013-07-30 02:01:03 AM  

DubtodaIll: I'm Georgian and have never heard someone say "liketa". Maybe it's an Bama thing.


You weren't far enough northeast in the state. The article left out the root of it, which is "liked to have" not "would have liked".

/also used to say 'a-goin' as a kid. Also "up-ere" (up there), fixin' to, 'lavish plenty of', 'bowed up' and many other Appalachianisms, and still will when intoxicated.
 
2013-07-30 02:03:12 AM  
WordyGrrl:
The easiest way to acquire a new accent is by mocking it. He'll pick up the local accent he's been making fun of without realizing he's done it and his homies in the UK will laugh and laugh at him.

We had a Taiwanese national for a while as an employee, he was determined to pick up a proper Florida cracker accent complete with idioms. He was damned good at it.
 
2013-07-30 02:09:25 AM  

vpc: jigger:
Not anymore, but I used to could.


A similar one makes me twitch: "might could".


Yep, used both of those, too. Also, adding on multiple "-es" to pluralize. One breast, two breast-es, many breast-eses.

"Goin' down to" - I'm a-goin' down to the Hoggly Woggly this mornin', we're out of biscuit makins'.
 
2013-07-30 02:12:14 AM  
GypsyJoker:

"Y'all" being the plural, "all y'all" should technically mean each individual of that plural ("each of y'all").

And it does, but it's in the final imperative. There's an implied "fark".

"Hey, Tom, we hear your Daddy's in jail again. Haw haw!"
"All y'all"
(fight commences)
 
2013-07-30 02:30:17 AM  
Let's see...adding -n to pronouns to indicate possession - This'un's mine, that'un's hisn, the other one's yourn.
Redundant insertion of done to indicate relative lapsed time: He's done gone to the Hoggly Woggly already.
Using a singular verb if the subject establishes number: That's the way them cows eats.
Dropping pluralization of nouns if the number is established elsewhere: He got five cow up on that patch o' clover, up-ere on the lee of the hill.
Using that instead of who/whom: He's the teacher that teaches English up to the high school. (I can't hear myself do this but still do it pervasively)
 
2013-07-30 02:45:15 AM  

erewhon: WordyGrrl:
The easiest way to acquire a new accent is by mocking it. He'll pick up the local accent he's been making fun of without realizing he's done it and his homies in the UK will laugh and laugh at him.

We had a Taiwanese national for a while as an employee, he was determined to pick up a proper Florida cracker accent complete with idioms. He was damned good at it.


A wonderful moment during my grad school in Memphis Tn: Some alumni dropped by, saw a Sikh in the computer lab and said "Ah'm shore you cain't understand that feller, haw haw!"

They were right. He may have been born Sikh in Georgia, but he had a ridiculous drawl.
 
2013-07-30 02:52:10 AM  
'y'all' is plural.

'all y'all' is meta-plural, implying inclusion of family/group members not present.
 
2013-07-30 03:04:23 AM  
Fano:

They were right. He may have been born Sikh in Georgia, but he had a ridiculous drawl.

My next younger brother fell in love with and eventually married a nice Jewish girl. It gave us a reason to go to Temple a few times. And going to a backwoods Appalachian shabbat service where they have a locally raised redneck cantor is an amazingly entertaining thing.

Sort of envision a big Bubba in overalls with a baseball cap on with Hasidic earlocks attached to it singing Hebrew with a bad way-down-yonder accent. True, it wasn't exactly the way it played out, but the second he opened his mouth the scene changed and I saw Larry the Reformed Cable Guy in my mind's eye. A real bad drawl and dipthonged vowels coming out of a guy you know fishes with a cane pole down to the crick just adds in spice to Hebrew that you might not have otherwise anticipated.

The second he launched off into his prayer I remember closing my eyes tightly, which is a habit of mine to forestall bursting into laughter. My wife reached over and gave me the Ultimatum Grip, so I managed to keep it in check. I caught hell for it anyway.
 
2013-07-30 03:54:06 AM  

erewhon: WordyGrrl:
The easiest way to acquire a new accent is by mocking it. He'll pick up the local accent he's been making fun of without realizing he's done it and his homies in the UK will laugh and laugh at him.

We had a Taiwanese national for a while as an employee, he was determined to pick up a proper Florida cracker accent complete with idioms. He was damned good at it.


I was an Army brat growing up. So, I didn't live anywhere long enough to internalize any particular accent during my formative years. (My parents each had their regional peculiarities, but both were well-read and worldly people who mostly taught me and my brothers "radio standard" English at home.)

What I did develop, however, was the ability to pick up local accents/vernaculars very quickly -- whether I wanted to or not.

/living in southern Texas now. Afraid to talk to anyone for just that reason.
 
2013-07-30 04:05:38 AM  
Bumblefark:

I was an Army brat growing up.

Yeah, me too, I had a pretty stout Appalachian thing when we moved to base housing, I lost it by third grade, moved BACK to the greater Toccoa region, and picked it back up until I went in the Army. Now I can switch it on or off, unless I'm tired or drunk, then the hills emerge. Except the use of "that" instead of "who", I never shook that one, I do that in writing, too.

Was once accused of being a Midwest news announcer at a weapons show, wasn't sure if I was happy or sad about that.

/what am I asking YOU for, you're some talking head from a Chicago news outlet...
 
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2013-07-30 04:34:50 AM  
Bumblefark:
/living in southern Texas now. Afraid to talk to anyone for just that reason.

San Antonio doesn't suck that bad. I was there yearly from 2004-2011 for the sporting clay nationals. Have fond memories of getting a bunch of Rangers from Fort Sam to surround a buddy of mine and sing him happy birthday in a local steakhouse to his profound embarrassment.

/hey guys - (flips out military id) - see that guy over there? It's his birthday, I'm screwing with him every chance I get, say you'll go serenade him.
//Ok, we're on, how do you want it?
///Loud, close, and really bad. If he's not red faced and facepalming, you failed the mission
 
2013-07-30 05:25:56 AM  
 
2013-07-30 05:36:01 AM  

acefox1: Mayonnaise

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I knew Jeff's boss at IBM. FWIW. He says Jeff's a great guy, not a bad customer engineer. It's a weird jump from engineer to comedian. Things that amuse me generally have people genuflecting or backing away cautiously.
 
2013-07-30 06:31:12 AM  

emotion_lotion: Man the brits will never get over Dick Van Dyke.

OK we get it, he was bad.

Just let it go.


Not the TV funnyman I hope...  The guy I'm thinking of was a consummate entertainer.  (He's no Benny Hill, but that's not a reason to diss him.)
 
2013-07-30 06:38:56 AM  
They're putting in a pipeline near here, and I was told there are a fair amount of cajuns on the travelling crew. I heard someone talking in McDonald's the other morning and asked him if he was from Louisiana, because his accent sounded like my sister's in Lafayette. He said 'born and raised in Dayton'. So I guess what i'm saying is you never know.
 
2013-07-30 06:51:22 AM  

Crewmannumber6: They're putting in a pipeline near here, and I was told there are a fair amount of cajuns on the travelling crew. I heard someone talking in McDonald's the other morning and asked him if he was from Louisiana, because his accent sounded like my sister's in Lafayette. He said 'born and raised in Dayton'. So I guess what i'm saying is you never know.


A bayou accent is hard to miss, although I have mistaken Quebecois for Cajun and vice versa. I'm told there's a difference but I never learned to speak Cajun very well, it's a lot different from Parisian French, more than Castilian Spanish is from Mexican. Quebecois and Cajun seem almost interchangeable to me but I'm told I am horrifyingly wrong by both sides. If so, it's pretty subtle, or I am linguistically talentless, either one of which is likely.

New Orleans has Cajun channels. The local news is in Cajun, but I notice they show Quebecois programs.

I've been fooled by Yat several times, it sounds like Brooklyn-ese to me.
 
2013-07-30 07:00:20 AM  

GypsyJoker: uknowzit: Guuberre: How all y'all doin'?

all y'all is the plural

A lot of folks in linguistics are in favor of having "y'all" as the second-person plural, to differentiate from the second-person singular.  I've seen it used in a number of linguistics books when giving sentence glosses from other languages.

"Y'all" being the plural, "all y'all" should technically mean each individual of that plural ("each of y'all").


This.  "Y'all" is the entire group, "all y'all" is everyone in the group, together.  Same as "yinz" and "all yinz".
 
2013-07-30 07:07:23 AM  
acetuminophen
 
2013-07-30 07:29:18 AM  

meat0918: What about "axe" instead of "ask"?


They say "axe" for "ask" in Geordie dialect (NE England) too. It comes from "acsian" which means "to ask" in Anglic. (North England was settled more by Angles and South England more by Saxons. Don't even get me started on the Danes.)
 
2013-07-30 07:45:14 AM  

Combustion: In the Pacific Northwest, a "Half Rack" is a 12 pack of beer.

/I have nothing to add
//but a halfrack.


You forgot how we pronounce caramel: CAR-muhl.

/That's our entire accent right there
//And I'm proud to speak it. :)
 
2013-07-30 08:02:37 AM  
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2013-07-30 09:04:36 AM  
Oh. So you have to talk stupid correctly, before you can make fun of it. Got it.
 
2013-07-30 09:05:20 AM  

ciberido: It's no more "wrong" than, say, to use "love" with both "I love to fish" and "I love fish."


Except those two phrases have radically different meanings. Or did I miss your point?
 
2013-07-30 09:17:01 AM  

artemusprine: emotion_lotion: Man the brits will never get over Dick Van Dyke.

OK we get it, he was bad.

Just let it go.

Not the TV funnyman I hope...  The guy I'm thinking of was a consummate entertainer.  (He's no Benny Hill, but that's not a reason to diss him.)


He was a consummate entertainer, but his lame attempt at a Cockney accent in "Mary Poppins" is what emotion_lotion was referring to. They obviously spent a lot of money on that movie; they couldn't afford to hire a dialect coach for Dick?

/note that he didn't even bother to attempt the accent in "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang"
 
2013-07-30 09:55:33 AM  
I was born in Illinois, grew up in Arizona, and returned to Illinois as a teenager. I speak with a General American English accent. I think a large part of that is that I actively try to not fark up English. I actively avoid things like vowel dropping, vowel shifting, R dropping, strange inflections, etc. I also have no desire to use slang that doesn't make any sense or seems to be bred from an inability to speak correctly. My grammar may not always be correct but I do try to speak well. Several people have commented that I'm well spoken. I think that I present myself well enough to avoid the common stereotypes that tends to come with being a 20 something genetic mutt.

As a personal thing I can't stand accents that, IMHO, butcher English. Southern accents tend to annoy me more than any other. It's one of several reasons that I will never live in the South.
 
2013-07-30 10:20:43 AM  
Serious question: do they teach this bastardization of English in school as well? Is "all y'all" taught in English class?
 
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