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(Yahoo)   Republican IT gurus are hard at work trying to build their own version of the Obama campaign's Narwhal system and expect that by 2016 they should have the systems and technology in place to win the 2012 Presidential election   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 84
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2013-07-29 10:52:04 AM
They'll still let ideology and what they want to be true override anything this system shows them.
 
2013-07-29 11:28:12 AM
Maybe they'll be able to push Nixon over the top in 1960 as well.
 
2013-07-29 11:42:45 AM
The $25,000 Romney spent on election night fireworks over Boston shall not have been spent in vain!

BAPP '16
 
2013-07-29 11:44:04 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Maybe they'll be able to push Nixon over the top in 1960 as well.


Well only i they make a massive TV ad buy for Ex-lax so the Kennedy Campaign can't buy airtime...
 
2013-07-29 12:08:45 PM
This is an incredibly low tech operation.

You take your list of likely voters in each precinct and you put someone behind the registration desk. That person marks off each voter as they come in, and at certain points during the day, you call the people who haven't come in yet.

it's not hard to figure out. It's just labor intensive, and unfortunately for the GOP you have to put people who can have the physical stamina to sit behind a desk and the ability to hear the names as their called out.
 
2013-07-29 12:16:20 PM

what_now: This is an incredibly low tech operation.

You take your list of likely voters in each precinct and you put someone behind the registration desk. That person marks off each voter as they come in, and at certain points during the day, you call the people who haven't come in yet.

it's not hard to figure out. It's just labor intensive, and unfortunately for the GOP you have to put people who can have the physical stamina to sit behind a desk and the ability to hear the names as their called out.


Well now, maybe they could get themselves a mess of day laborers from down in front of the local 7-11 and put them into the jobs,  You don't have to pay 'em hardly nothin' and those people know how to work hard ya know?
 
2013-07-29 12:19:37 PM

Magorn: Well now, maybe they could get themselves a mess of day laborers from down in front of the local 7-11 and put them into the jobs, You don't have to pay 'em hardly nothin' and those people know how to work hard ya know?


Maybe. But you'd need to make sure they can understand and read English, and keep up with the election officials.

Now, the average age of the election officials is hovering somewhere around 85, so that shouldnt' be a problem.

But you'd be surprised.
 
2013-07-29 12:35:17 PM
That read like an interview with an IT system salesman.
 
2013-07-29 12:41:19 PM
This system will have the capacity to unskew 60 trillion polls a second.  It will be the world's first terraderp system.
 
2013-07-29 12:46:43 PM

what_now: This is an incredibly low tech operation.

You take your list of likely voters in each precinct and you put someone behind the registration desk. That person marks off each voter as they come in, and at certain points during the day, you call the people who haven't come in yet.

it's not hard to figure out. It's just labor intensive, and unfortunately for the GOP you have to put people who can have the physical stamina to sit behind a desk and the ability to hear the names as their called out.


What was really amazing about the Obama campaign was how they used technology to narrow down the lists of voters in each district and then use that lists to focus get out the vote efforts. The GOP, from what I could tell, just hit their usual safe neighborhoods and blew off anyone outside their safe zones. The Obama campaign reached out to everyone and narrowed down the list from there. It went well and we pulled in more voters then I expected we would get. Some pretty smart cookies on the democratic party side
 
2013-07-29 12:48:54 PM
I will also say that Romney scared the piss out of any voter that wasn't freaky Christian or super rich. That really helped us get out the vote for Obama.
 
2013-07-29 12:50:27 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: That read like an interview with an IT system salesman.


for good reason.  As near As I have been able to tell, a majority of core  the modern GOP these days consists of Angry, easily-riled "true believers" who are always ready to throw some of their dwindling piles of cash to support "The Cause"  and a cadre of slick, well-paid people who making thier livings exploiting the credulity of the former.

The number of direct-mail quasi-scams that raise money nationally for no-hope candidates running against famous hated Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, and then keep 90% of the Cash raised for "overhead and adminstrative exepnses"   or PACs run by formerly fampus GOP names like Sarah Palin or Linda Chavez that raise buckets of money and employ lots of relatives of the famous name but spend only 1-2% on political contributions, are regular features of the GOP these days and seem to have no real analogue on the left.   Mitt Romney ran into trouble last year when he realized these sorts of parasites had already bled dry many of the same people he was counting on cash from
 
2013-07-29 12:52:08 PM

Weaver95: what_now: This is an incredibly low tech operation.

You take your list of likely voters in each precinct and you put someone behind the registration desk. That person marks off each voter as they come in, and at certain points during the day, you call the people who haven't come in yet.

it's not hard to figure out. It's just labor intensive, and unfortunately for the GOP you have to put people who can have the physical stamina to sit behind a desk and the ability to hear the names as their called out.

What was really amazing about the Obama campaign was how they used technology to narrow down the lists of voters in each district and then use that lists to focus get out the vote efforts. The GOP, from what I could tell, just hit their usual safe neighborhoods and blew off anyone outside their safe zones. The Obama campaign reached out to everyone and narrowed down the list from there. It went well and we pulled in more voters then I expected we would get. Some pretty smart cookies on the democratic party side


The Elizabeth Warren campaign called me as I was in line to vote. Typically, I vote early, but I was an election official in a different precinct, so I didn't get to vote till mid afternoon.

They actually figured out that I was a "before work" voter, and called to make sure I would.
 
2013-07-29 01:04:48 PM
If they manage to get this technology in place, there's no way Obama will be re-elected in 2016.
 
2013-07-29 01:04:51 PM
Will this Republican IT system fail as spectacularly as Romney's ORCA did on Election night?
 
2013-07-29 01:05:41 PM
Have the Republicans considered supporting policies which more people like?
 
2013-07-29 01:06:44 PM

Magorn: Because People in power are Stupid: That read like an interview with an IT system salesman.

for good reason.  As near As I have been able to tell, a majority of core  the modern GOP these days consists of Angry, easily-riled "true believers" who are always ready to throw some of their dwindling piles of cash to support "The Cause"  and a cadre of slick, well-paid people who making thier livings exploiting the credulity of the former.

The number of direct-mail quasi-scams that raise money nationally for no-hope candidates running against famous hated Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, and then keep 90% of the Cash raised for "overhead and adminstrative exepnses"   or PACs run by formerly fampus GOP names like Sarah Palin or Linda Chavez that raise buckets of money and employ lots of relatives of the famous name but spend only 1-2% on political contributions, are regular features of the GOP these days and seem to have no real analogue on the left.   Mitt Romney ran into trouble last year when he realized these sorts of parasites had already bled dry many of the same people he was counting on cash from


They're just lucky that the super rich can donate as much of their investors' money as they want.
 
2013-07-29 01:08:02 PM
If you sound like a farking coont, you sound like a farking coont. There's no way you can dress that up, no matter what PR firm you hire.
 
2013-07-29 01:08:52 PM

Weaver95: what_now: This is an incredibly low tech operation.

You take your list of likely voters in each precinct and you put someone behind the registration desk. That person marks off each voter as they come in, and at certain points during the day, you call the people who haven't come in yet.

it's not hard to figure out. It's just labor intensive, and unfortunately for the GOP you have to put people who can have the physical stamina to sit behind a desk and the ability to hear the names as their called out.

What was really amazing about the Obama campaign was how they used technology to narrow down the lists of voters in each district and then use that lists to focus get out the vote efforts. The GOP, from what I could tell, just hit their usual safe neighborhoods and blew off anyone outside their safe zones. The Obama campaign reached out to everyone and narrowed down the list from there. It went well and we pulled in more voters then I expected we would get. Some pretty smart cookies on the democratic party side


If you hunt it down, the New York Time did a VERY long article very detailed on the Obama Campaign's IT effort (took me over an hour to read and I read very fast)  about a month or so ago  It was an fascinating read, as these guys did some really innovative stuff  that I am sure will be used in general advertising any day now.  If I can find it I'll post a link
 
2013-07-29 01:08:54 PM
Hey, GOP? You know what would be a good way to get more people to polls?

Early voting, vote by mail, not implementing voter ID laws

Oh... wait...
 
2013-07-29 01:09:41 PM

Notabunny: Have the Republicans considered supporting policies which more people like?


Don't be silly. It's not their policies, it's everything else.
 
2013-07-29 01:11:35 PM

ikanreed: Magorn: Because People in power are Stupid: That read like an interview with an IT system salesman.

for good reason.  As near As I have been able to tell, a majority of core  the modern GOP these days consists of Angry, easily-riled "true believers" who are always ready to throw some of their dwindling piles of cash to support "The Cause"  and a cadre of slick, well-paid people who making thier livings exploiting the credulity of the former.

The number of direct-mail quasi-scams that raise money nationally for no-hope candidates running against famous hated Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, and then keep 90% of the Cash raised for "overhead and adminstrative exepnses"   or PACs run by formerly fampus GOP names like Sarah Palin or Linda Chavez that raise buckets of money and employ lots of relatives of the famous name but spend only 1-2% on political contributions, are regular features of the GOP these days and seem to have no real analogue on the left.   Mitt Romney ran into trouble last year when he realized these sorts of parasites had already bled dry many of the same people he was counting on cash from

They're just lucky that the super rich can donate as much of their investors' money as they want.


Wages continue to stagnate for the lower and lower middle classes, so...yeah pretty much.
 
2013-07-29 01:12:01 PM

Klivian: Hey, GOP? You know what would be a good way to get more people to polls?

Early voting, vote by mail, not implementing voter ID laws

Oh... wait...


They do NOT want MORE people to vote, every study and poll bears out the truth that the higher the voter turn-out is, the more the electorate favors Democrats.  No what the GOP wants is to make sure only the RIGHT people vote, and this IT work goes hand in hand with their voter supression efforts in that sense
 
2013-07-29 01:12:08 PM
This is a necessary step for them if they want to win, but it's far from sufficient.
 
2013-07-29 01:13:21 PM
Based on what I read about the last election, I don't think we should discount the idea that the GOP would get a bump if they had a more competent GOTV system. If you think about it, it also fits in with their current strategy of gerrymandering and voter suppression, too, in that they're playing any procedural game possible to get a few percent more votes without changing any of the policies that peolple hate.
 
2013-07-29 01:13:36 PM
Meanwhile, the GOP's 2032 candidate is being grown in a vat of hair gel and Reagan's taint sweat.
 
2013-07-29 01:15:19 PM
www.imsai.net

Because People in power are Stupid: That read like an interview with an IT system salesman.



wickedchopspoker.blogs.com

See this system here? This is Hi-Fi... high fidelity. What that means is that it's the highest quality fidelity.
 
2013-07-29 01:15:46 PM
I live in OKlahoma.  I'm the only democrat I've ever met.
 
2013-07-29 01:17:05 PM
i595.photobucket.com
Ook make devil box tell how to beat dirty darkiecrats.
 
2013-07-29 01:18:34 PM
Outsourcing it to the lowest bidder can't possibly have any drawbacks.
 
2013-07-29 01:22:35 PM

Doctor Funkenstein: [i595.photobucket.com image 430x260]
Ook make devil box tell how to beat dirty darkiecrats.




3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-29 01:22:56 PM
This is the only way the GOP will win the internet:

-Have all their backers buy the companies that run the internet and shut it down or strictly moderate it.
-Pass prohibitively restrictive bills like SOPA that puts content distributors out of business over night and assumes all end users are criminals such that you need a license to internet.
 
2013-07-29 01:24:40 PM
Musser and partner Alex Skatell -- he's 26 -- recently launched a budding digital empire, Media Group of America LLC, which includes a digital consulting firm, a center right news sight viewed by more than 3.5 million people this month,

3.5 million unique people?

And Here is an article from that site, A new Low: Freeloaders Profiting from Welfare Food by Selling it on the Caribbean Black Market
Center right my ass.
 
2013-07-29 01:25:50 PM

what_now: Weaver95: what_now: This is an incredibly low tech operation.

You take your list of likely voters in each precinct and you put someone behind the registration desk. That person marks off each voter as they come in, and at certain points during the day, you call the people who haven't come in yet.

it's not hard to figure out. It's just labor intensive, and unfortunately for the GOP you have to put people who can have the physical stamina to sit behind a desk and the ability to hear the names as their called out.

What was really amazing about the Obama campaign was how they used technology to narrow down the lists of voters in each district and then use that lists to focus get out the vote efforts. The GOP, from what I could tell, just hit their usual safe neighborhoods and blew off anyone outside their safe zones. The Obama campaign reached out to everyone and narrowed down the list from there. It went well and we pulled in more voters then I expected we would get. Some pretty smart cookies on the democratic party side

The Elizabeth Warren campaign called me as I was in line to vote. Typically, I vote early, but I was an election official in a different precinct, so I didn't get to vote till mid afternoon.

They actually figured out that I was a "before work" voter, and called to make sure I would.


Yup. The amount of data we had available to us was fantastic. It really helped to focus our efforts on voters who were most likely to go vote for Obama.
 
2013-07-29 01:27:05 PM
They call it the Orca Project, named for the powerful killer whale. Why Orca? It seems the Orca is the greatest natural predator of the Narwhal, the name of the Obama campaign's top secret voter micro-targeting system.

Link

BWAHAHAHAAA!!!!
Get a brain, mormons.
 
2013-07-29 01:28:15 PM
Link


Link
 
2013-07-29 01:32:51 PM
i553.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-29 01:32:58 PM

what_now: The Elizabeth Warren campaign called me as I was in line to vote. Typically, I vote early, but I was an election official in a different precinct, so I didn't get to vote till mid afternoon.

They actually figured out that I was a "before work" voter, and called to make sure I would.


My husband usually votes in the morning & I vote late at night.  He had to go in work early on election day & planned to vote after work.  He got an email from the Obama campaign around lunchtime, reminding him to vote.
 
2013-07-29 01:36:03 PM
This system will be the oppoisite of Narwahl.  Instead of working to figure out which of their voters won't turn out and getting them to the polls the republican system will try and identify democratic voters and help to institute blocks to those folks casting legitimate votes.
 
2013-07-29 01:36:03 PM

Maud Dib: Link


"At 5 o'clock when the exit polls come out, we won't pay attention to that," Gitcho said Monday. "We will have had much more scientific information just based on the political operation we have set up."

Distinct ROFLMAO there...
 
2013-07-29 01:36:50 PM
maybe if they switched off the white list only settings they would get better responses. Also, they should update from that token ring network
 
2013-07-29 01:37:55 PM
FTFA:  " Obama's campaign deployed a sophisticated data-mining operation to reshape the electorate into a winning coalition of young people, women and minorities."

This is misleading.  I never got the impression that Narwhal targeted specific groups, just that it kept the campaign apprised of who hadn't voted yet & could alert that voter.  Plus, allow the campaign to direct boots on the ground.  Narwhal didn't "reshape the electorate".  Young people, women, and minorities were simply terrified of the prospect of Romney winning.
 
2013-07-29 01:38:00 PM
toyology.typepad.com
 
2013-07-29 01:40:00 PM
Have they unlocked the secrets of Obama's Magic Time Machine?
 
2013-07-29 01:41:00 PM

brigid_fitch: FTFA:  " Obama's campaign deployed a sophisticated data-mining operation to reshape the electorate into a winning coalition of young people, women and minorities."

This is misleading.  I never got the impression that Narwhal targeted specific groups, just that it kept the campaign apprised of who hadn't voted yet & could alert that voter.  Plus, allow the campaign to direct boots on the ground.  Narwhal didn't "reshape the electorate".  Young people, women, and minorities were simply terrified of the prospect of Romney winning.


have you learned nothing? the problem was not that the GOP message is out of sync with anyone who isn't a middle age or older white male, no! the problem was that they failed to get people to understand their message and Romney was the wrong candidate. The media didn't give them a fair shake and Obama used his cia mind ray control to gain votes

///this is sort of what they actually believe
 
2013-07-29 01:42:12 PM
You can shove a couple hundred volts worth of new technology through the republican platform, but it won't make that turd smell any better.
 
2013-07-29 01:43:13 PM

what_now: Magorn: Well now, maybe they could get themselves a mess of day laborers from down in front of the local 7-11 and put them into the jobs, You don't have to pay 'em hardly nothin' and those people know how to work hard ya know?

Maybe. But you'd need to make sure they can understand and read English, and keep up with the election officials.


On the other hand, their cantaloupian calves are great for a job that requires them to stand around all day.
 
2013-07-29 01:44:00 PM
si.wsj.net
Narwhal? Are you talking about my campaign's Buffy system, it is a GOP Zombie killer.
 
2013-07-29 01:49:13 PM

zedster: brigid_fitch: FTFA:  " Obama's campaign deployed a sophisticated data-mining operation to reshape the electorate into a winning coalition of young people, women and minorities."

This is misleading.  I never got the impression that Narwhal targeted specific groups, just that it kept the campaign apprised of who hadn't voted yet & could alert that voter.  Plus, allow the campaign to direct boots on the ground.  Narwhal didn't "reshape the electorate".  Young people, women, and minorities were simply terrified of the prospect of Romney winning.

have you learned nothing? the problem was not that the GOP message is out of sync with anyone who isn't a middle age or older white male, no! the problem was that they failed to get people to understand their message and Romney was the wrong candidate. The media didn't give them a fair shake and Obama used his cia mind ray control to gain votes

///this is sort of what they actually believe


America failed the Republican Party.  We should all be ashamed of ourselves.
 
2013-07-29 01:49:57 PM

brigid_fitch: what_now: The Elizabeth Warren campaign called me as I was in line to vote. Typically, I vote early, but I was an election official in a different precinct, so I didn't get to vote till mid afternoon.

They actually figured out that I was a "before work" voter, and called to make sure I would.

My husband usually votes in the morning & I vote late at night.  He had to go in work early on election day & planned to vote after work.  He got an email from the Obama campaign around lunchtime, reminding him to vote.


I live overseas.  For two months prior to the election I got 2-3 emails per week reminding me to fill out my absentee ballot.

/the embassy collected them all and took them back over to the States in a diplomatic bag, which was nice of them
 
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