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2013-07-29 10:39:54 AM  
Naw, sorry subby.  Your owner's a cheapskate and there was heat on his ass for not bringing in FAs to complement the talent.  So fark him.
 
2013-07-29 10:51:37 AM  

Rwa2play: Naw, sorry subby.  Your owner's a cheapskate and there was heat on his ass for not bringing in FAs to complement the talent.  So fark him.


Yeah and Wil Meyers is hitting .328 with 7 homers too. It's going to be great in '17 when Myers is working on his 2nd All Star Appearance and Tampa still has control of his rights for another year, and Shields has been on the Blue Jays for 2 years.

But hey: At least we have a winning streak going now so we won't trade Santana at the height of his value. Can't wait until he regresses back into a 5 ERA guy.
 
2013-07-29 10:53:30 AM  
On pace for 16/20!  Woooooooooooooo!
 
2013-07-29 10:53:34 AM  
I don't see the Royals pulling off some sort of miraculous run that has them winning the Central, but as a White Sox fan with no hope for the next few seasons I'd have to say I'd rather have the Royals start taking over than the Tigers or Indians.
 
2013-07-29 10:58:16 AM  
Holy hell the White Sox became comically bad in a big hurry. A reporter asked Konerko if all the trade rumors surrounding the team have affected their play and he said "Not really. We were sh*tty before the rumors."  But hey, Chris Sale is 2nd in the AL in bWAR and pretty awesome to watch, even if the Sox never score when he pitches, and maybe if they can trade enough guys they can make a run at the #1 pick.
 
2013-07-29 10:59:10 AM  

jayhawk88: Rwa2play: Naw, sorry subby.  Your owner's a cheapskate and there was heat on his ass for not bringing in FAs to complement the talent.  So fark him.

Yeah and Wil Meyers is hitting .328 with 7 homers too. It's going to be great in '17 when Myers is working on his 2nd All Star Appearance and Tampa still has control of his rights for another year, and Shields has been on the Blue Jays for 2 years.

But hey: At least we have a winning streak going now so we won't trade Santana at the height of his value. Can't wait until he regresses back into a 5 ERA guy.


TB needs a #2 hitter in front of Jennings and behind Longoria/Meyers.  That would be a killer lineup.
 
2013-07-29 11:00:26 AM  
So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.
 
2013-07-29 11:01:02 AM  

Rwa2play: TB needs a #2 hitter in front of Jennings and behind Longoria/Meyers. That would be a killer lineup.


That's quite a lineup construction.
 
2013-07-29 11:01:49 AM  
6 games vs minnesota and 3 vs the mets upcoming, they light have a chance of going above .500
 
2013-07-29 11:06:34 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: 6 games vs minnesota and 3 vs the mets upcoming, they light have a chance of going above .500


Not if the Mets have Wheeler and Harvey in any two of those three.
 
2013-07-29 11:08:44 AM  

jayhawk88: Rwa2play: Naw, sorry subby.  Your owner's a cheapskate and there was heat on his ass for not bringing in FAs to complement the talent.  So fark him.

Yeah and Wil Meyers is hitting .328 with 7 homers too. It's going to be great in '17 when Myers is working on his 2nd All Star Appearance and Tampa still has control of his rights for another year, and Shields has been on the Blue Jays for 2 years.

But hey: At least we have a winning streak going now so we won't trade Santana at the height of his value. Can't wait until he regresses back into a 5 ERA guy.


Yeah, if we only kept Myers we'd be 10 games under with a rotation of Santana, Hochever, Guthrie, Mendoza and Chen.
 
2013-07-29 11:09:23 AM  
I feel you, subby.

But...


 The Royals' Clark Kent became the fifth player in Major League history to play all nine positions in one game on Sunday against the White Sox. Kent added to the feat by playing all nine positions at the same time.

Kent pitched eight perfect innings but was pulled for a pinch-hitter in the ninth, and Chicago scored in the bottom of the ninth to win 1-0.

Kent finished with a .921 average, 147 home runs and 492 RBIs -- all major-league records.

The Royals finished 72-90.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/50858290/
 
2013-07-29 11:12:05 AM  

Rwa2play: So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.


You just couldn't let 'em have this one thread. generation me.
 
2013-07-29 11:12:41 AM  

Rwa2play: So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.


There's zero chance that they'll be able to suspend him for more than 100 games.  This is a second offense.
 
2013-07-29 11:12:43 AM  

Rwa2play: So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.


Lulz, but not a lifetime ban! Because you know, teams will be fighting each other to sign up a 39 year old, scarlet lettered A-Rod who hasn't played professional baseball for a full 3 years by then.
 
2013-07-29 11:15:42 AM  

jayhawk88: Rwa2play: So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.

Lulz, but not a lifetime ban! Because you know, teams will be fighting each other to sign up a 39 year old, scarlet lettered A-Rod who hasn't played professional baseball for a full 3 years by then.


He will be 42 when his contract is up, not 39.
 
2013-07-29 11:21:15 AM  

meanmutton: Rwa2play: So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.

There's zero chance that they'll be able to suspend him for more than 100 games.  This is a second offense.


Compounded (so we hear from more leaks than an incontinent diabetic alcoholic) by A-Rod's obstruction of MLB's investigation. Investigatory bodies often dislike intensely when a subject lies to them, and this is often reflected in their punishment.

He'll appeal whatever suspension they give him (unless it's something comical, like 25 games only this season), but I'd like to see them throw a banhammer up, even as a trial balloon.

// but watch your head, the banhammer is still subject to the rules of gravity
 
2013-07-29 11:21:57 AM  

ftjdw: Rwa2play: So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.

You just couldn't let 'em have this one thread. generation me.


Nah, I can't.  I must express the feelings of joy I have when A-Rod's running like a chicken with its head cut off.
 
2013-07-29 11:25:04 AM  

Dr Dreidel: meanmutton: Rwa2play: So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.

There's zero chance that they'll be able to suspend him for more than 100 games.  This is a second offense.

Compounded (so we hear from more leaks than an incontinent diabetic alcoholic) by A-Rod's obstruction of MLB's investigation. Investigatory bodies often dislike intensely when a subject lies to them, and this is often reflected in their punishment.

He'll appeal whatever suspension they give him (unless it's something comical, like 25 games only this season), but I'd like to see them throw a banhammer up, even as a trial balloon.


Doubt it considering Braun got the rest of this season.  100 games I could definitely see; a lifetime ban if and only if they have something so egregious that no one sane will appeal it.
 
2013-07-29 11:25:40 AM  

meanmutton: jayhawk88: Rwa2play: So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.

Lulz, but not a lifetime ban! Because you know, teams will be fighting each other to sign up a 39 year old, scarlet lettered A-Rod who hasn't played professional baseball for a full 3 years by then.

He will be 42 when his contract is up, not 39.


Ha, I mean when he would be eligible to come back, but that's a good point: whomever would be interested in him would also have to be willing to pick up the remaining years on that contract.

So, do the Yankees get out from under that contract if Selig lifetime bans him?
 
2013-07-29 11:26:57 AM  
So the Royals thread lasts 5 posts and turns into an A-Rod thread?
 
2013-07-29 11:27:02 AM  

room at the top: jayhawk88: Rwa2play: Naw, sorry subby.  Your owner's a cheapskate and there was heat on his ass for not bringing in FAs to complement the talent.  So fark him.

Yeah and Wil Meyers is hitting .328 with 7 homers too. It's going to be great in '17 when Myers is working on his 2nd All Star Appearance and Tampa still has control of his rights for another year, and Shields has been on the Blue Jays for 2 years.

But hey: At least we have a winning streak going now so we won't trade Santana at the height of his value. Can't wait until he regresses back into a 5 ERA guy.

Yeah, if we only kept Myers we'd be 10 games under with a rotation of Santana, Hochever, Guthrie, Mendoza and Chen.





This! We would be worse in the long run with Meyers. Yes, He might be allstar next but we would just lose him in a couple years to fa. Lough is hitting .300 in right and saves us money for free agents.
 
2013-07-29 11:27:38 AM  

meanmutton: There's zero chance that they'll be able to suspend him for more than 100 games.  This is a second offense.


The MLBPA has already said that any bans/suspensions handed out will be outside those imposed by the collective bargaining agreement (Braun's 65-game suspension comes to mind). And that the players involved had best cut any deal they can because the union will let them hang.
 
2013-07-29 11:30:25 AM  

jayhawk88: meanmutton: jayhawk88: Rwa2play: So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.

Lulz, but not a lifetime ban! Because you know, teams will be fighting each other to sign up a 39 year old, scarlet lettered A-Rod who hasn't played professional baseball for a full 3 years by then.

He will be 42 when his contract is up, not 39.

Ha, I mean when he would be eligible to come back, but that's a good point: whomever would be interested in him would also have to be willing to pick up the remaining years on that contract.

So, do the Yankees get out from under that contract if Selig lifetime bans him?


Depending on how the appeal goes if he gets a lifetime ban, yes.  It's w/o pay, ergo, the Yanks get liberated from George's last steaming pile.
 
2013-07-29 11:33:50 AM  
Priates vs Royal World Series.

Followed immediately by the apocolypse.
 
2013-07-29 11:34:34 AM  
I should have known this would turn into a Yankees thread.
 
2013-07-29 11:37:06 AM  

room at the top: jayhawk88: Rwa2play: Naw, sorry subby.  Your owner's a cheapskate and there was heat on his ass for not bringing in FAs to complement the talent.  So fark him.

Yeah and Wil Meyers is hitting .328 with 7 homers too. It's going to be great in '17 when Myers is working on his 2nd All Star Appearance and Tampa still has control of his rights for another year, and Shields has been on the Blue Jays for 2 years.

But hey: At least we have a winning streak going now so we won't trade Santana at the height of his value. Can't wait until he regresses back into a 5 ERA guy.

Yeah, if we only kept Myers we'd be 10 games under with a rotation of Santana, Hochever, Guthrie, Mendoza and Chen.


*shudder*  Hochever in the starting rotation.....you just gave me nightmares.  I know some GM's, especially around here (Ryan Simms anyone) don't like to admit their mistakes...but it took 5 years before they figured out...hrm...maybe he isn't starting material.
 
2013-07-29 11:37:23 AM  

mediablitz: Priates vs Royal World Series.

Followed immediately by the apocolypse.


Nah, that's reserved for Astros/D'Backs.
 
2013-07-29 11:37:56 AM  

jayhawk88: meanmutton: jayhawk88: Rwa2play: So I heard A-fraud's been given an ultimatum by Selig:  Sit out the rest of this AND next year or get banned for life.

As a Yankee fan, this pleases me greatly.

Lulz, but not a lifetime ban! Because you know, teams will be fighting each other to sign up a 39 year old, scarlet lettered A-Rod who hasn't played professional baseball for a full 3 years by then.

He will be 42 when his contract is up, not 39.

Ha, I mean when he would be eligible to come back, but that's a good point: whomever would be interested in him would also have to be willing to pick up the remaining years on that contract.

So, do the Yankees get out from under that contract if Selig lifetime bans him?


Well, that's the problem.  There's nothing in the collective bargained contract that allows him to do that.  It's very clear: 2nd offense means 100 game suspension.  Period.  You'd have to somehow magic this into a 3rd offense and there's no way that could happen without trying to void the entire CBA.  Yeah, with a rather labor friendly NLRB there's absolutely no chance that could ever happen.
 
2013-07-29 11:38:59 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: room at the top: jayhawk88: Rwa2play: Naw, sorry subby.  Your owner's a cheapskate and there was heat on his ass for not bringing in FAs to complement the talent.  So fark him.

Yeah and Wil Meyers is hitting .328 with 7 homers too. It's going to be great in '17 when Myers is working on his 2nd All Star Appearance and Tampa still has control of his rights for another year, and Shields has been on the Blue Jays for 2 years.

But hey: At least we have a winning streak going now so we won't trade Santana at the height of his value. Can't wait until he regresses back into a 5 ERA guy.

Yeah, if we only kept Myers we'd be 10 games under with a rotation of Santana, Hochever, Guthrie, Mendoza and Chen.

This! We would be worse in the long run with Meyers. Yes, He might be allstar next but we would just lose him in a couple years to fa. Lough is hitting .300 in right and saves us money for free agents.


Chalk it up to TB's brilliant front office.  They have themselves a solid/AS outfielder for the next 6-8 years?

Imagine what they could do in a mid-sized market.
 
2013-07-29 11:41:31 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: meanmutton: There's zero chance that they'll be able to suspend him for more than 100 games.  This is a second offense.

The MLBPA has already said that any bans/suspensions handed out will be outside those imposed by the collective bargaining agreement (Braun's 65-game suspension comes to mind). And that the players involved had best cut any deal they can because the union will let them hang.


I find that really hard to believe.  Can you please post anything that would suggest that?

Either way, even if the MLBPA isn't going to war -- A-Rod has a signed contract which includes what the penalties are for drugs.  He can take it to an arbiter or the NLRB.
 
2013-07-29 11:43:13 AM  
Royals fans, don't let them do this to you.  This is that ray of sunshine that peeks between the storm clouds momentarily.  You'll only hurt yourself.  Your heart can't take it.  You know as long as Yost, Moore and Glass are running this show it is inevitable.
 
2013-07-29 11:44:08 AM  

meanmutton: The Crepes of Wrath: meanmutton: There's zero chance that they'll be able to suspend him for more than 100 games.  This is a second offense.

The MLBPA has already said that any bans/suspensions handed out will be outside those imposed by the collective bargaining agreement (Braun's 65-game suspension comes to mind). And that the players involved had best cut any deal they can because the union will let them hang.

I find that really hard to believe.  Can you please post anything that would suggest that?

Either way, even if the MLBPA isn't going to war -- A-Rod has a signed contract which includes what the penalties are for drugs.  He can take it to an arbiter or the NLRB.


Probably; the MLBPA will steer clear of it in any case.  There's a lot of chatter within the rank-and-file to clean up baseball.
 
2013-07-29 11:45:21 AM  

theurge14: Royals fans, don't let them do this to you.  This is that ray of sunshine that peeks between the storm clouds momentarily.  You'll only hurt yourself.  Your heart can't take it.  You know as long as Yost, Moore and Glass are running this show it is inevitable.


Pretty much; surprised they let Yost get this far without firing him.
 
2013-07-29 11:45:55 AM  
In a few more weeks, the Chiefs will take over and you won't have to worry about anything for awhile.  Maybe the Broncos.
 
2013-07-29 11:46:17 AM  

SlagginOff: I don't see the Royals pulling off some sort of miraculous run that has them winning the Central, but as a White Sox fan with no hope for the next few seasons I'd have to say I'd rather have the Royals start taking over than the Tigers or Indians.


Consider that the Royals are 8-10 since the ASG including taking two of three from Detroit... and they've still lost a game on Detroit.  They ain't going anywhere.
 
2013-07-29 11:46:52 AM  

Mentat: SlagginOff: I don't see the Royals pulling off some sort of miraculous run that has them winning the Central, but as a White Sox fan with no hope for the next few seasons I'd have to say I'd rather have the Royals start taking over than the Tigers or Indians.

Consider that the Royals are 8-10 since the ASG including taking two of three from Detroit... and they've still lost a game on Detroit.  They ain't going anywhere.


8 of 10 that is.
 
2013-07-29 11:48:02 AM  

mediablitz: Priates vs Royal World Series.

Followed immediately by the apocolypse.


I wouldn't bet against the Pirates going to Series this year. I finally got the chance to watch them play a few weeks back, and they've got the pitching to get there.

The Royals? Until David Glass is entombed in a pyramid somewhere with his most loyal assistants, the entire roster is turned over to be greeters at Wal-Mart per the terms of his will, Kaufman Field is burned down and the earth salted, and the franchise is rebooted as an expansion team, nope.
 
2013-07-29 11:49:00 AM  

mediablitz: Priates vs Royal World Series.

Followed immediately by the apocolypse.


Came here initially to say that an August/September Pirates/Royals interleague series suddenly sounds not quite so much like death of 1000 cuts or water torture.

// Nats/Pirates was a hard one to watch
// not a lot of cheering on South Cap during that schneid
 
2013-07-29 11:49:46 AM  

Cagey B: mediablitz: Priates vs Royal World Series.

Followed immediately by the apocolypse.

I wouldn't bet against the Pirates going to Series this year. I finally got the chance to watch them play a few weeks back, and they've got the pitching to get there.

The Royals? Until David Glass is entombed in a pyramid somewhere with his most loyal assistants, the entire roster is turned over to be greeters at Wal-Mart per the terms of his will, Kaufman Field is burned down and the earth salted, and the franchise is rebooted as an expansion team, nope.


David Glass should be thankful that Loria's around.  Otherwise he'd be the worst owner in the majors.
 
2013-07-29 11:51:10 AM  

Rwa2play: theurge14: Royals fans, don't let them do this to you.  This is that ray of sunshine that peeks between the storm clouds momentarily.  You'll only hurt yourself.  Your heart can't take it.  You know as long as Yost, Moore and Glass are running this show it is inevitable.

Pretty much; surprised they let Yost get this far without firing him.




Yost/Moore are doing fine with what Glass lets them spend. Glass did raise payroll to 82 million this year. A club record. I'm personally intrigued by the LAA/KC trade rumors. Howie Kendrick for a pitching prospect
 
2013-07-29 11:54:33 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: room at the top: jayhawk88: Rwa2play: Naw, sorry subby.  Your owner's a cheapskate and there was heat on his ass for not bringing in FAs to complement the talent.  So fark him.

Yeah and Wil Meyers is hitting .328 with 7 homers too. It's going to be great in '17 when Myers is working on his 2nd All Star Appearance and Tampa still has control of his rights for another year, and Shields has been on the Blue Jays for 2 years.

But hey: At least we have a winning streak going now so we won't trade Santana at the height of his value. Can't wait until he regresses back into a 5 ERA guy.

Yeah, if we only kept Myers we'd be 10 games under with a rotation of Santana, Hochever, Guthrie, Mendoza and Chen.


This! We would be worse in the long run with Meyers. Yes, He might be allstar next but we would just lose him in a couple years to fa. Lough is hitting .300 in right and saves us money for free agents.


A couple years?  You mean six years.

Are the Royals going anywhere with Shields this season?  No.

Are the Royals going anywhere with Shields next season?  Who knows, but probably not.

Are the Royals resigning Shields?  No.

So, you've given up a huge piece, who could have been there for another six years after this one, in order to not accomplish anything.  But ownership showed the fans that they're "committed to winning now," so hooray for that.
 
2013-07-29 11:55:11 AM  

meanmutton: I find that really hard to believe.  Can you please post anything that would suggest that?


I've heard a lot of talking heads on the MLB Network talking about it, and this article references some of it.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1708871-mlbpas-approach-to-biogen es is-scandal-proves-times-have-changed

Here's what MLBPA executive director Michael Weiner told the  New York Daily News:

I can tell you, if we have a case where there really is overwhelming evidence, that a player committed a violation of the program, our fight is going to be that they make a deal. We're not interested in having players with overwhelming evidence that they violated the (drug) program out there. Most of the players aren't interested in that. We'd like to have a clean program.

And...

It was apparent even before Weiner spoke with theDaily News that the union was willing to work with the league rather than fight with it over the scandal. Most notably, Weiner raised eyebrows when he said before the All-Star Game on Tuesday that the suspensions outlined in the Joint Drug Agreement don't necessarily apply to the Biogenesis scandal.
 
2013-07-29 11:56:12 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Rwa2play: theurge14: Royals fans, don't let them do this to you.  This is that ray of sunshine that peeks between the storm clouds momentarily.  You'll only hurt yourself.  Your heart can't take it.  You know as long as Yost, Moore and Glass are running this show it is inevitable.

Pretty much; surprised they let Yost get this far without firing him.

Yost/Moore are doing fine with what Glass lets them spend.


Spending's one thing, Yost's managing is another.

Glass did raise payroll to 82 million this year. A club record. I'm personally intrigued by the LAA/KC trade rumors. Howie Kendrick for a pitching prospect

How's that gonna move the needle with KC?  Detroit's wobbled but they're still Detroit; Cleveland's done well and unless they collapse from this point forward I don't see the Royals making a substantial enough push to get into the WC places at the least.

Also:  the fact that the Rangers have had internal discussions about trading Nathan has to a) get Tigers' fans going nuts for their FO to engineer a trade to get him and b) the rest of the league worried that the Tigers' will make that push unless someone else makes the Godfather offer to Texas to pry Nathan away from Detroit.
 
2013-07-29 11:56:18 AM  
The Pirates are above .500, the Cubs just swept the World Series Champs, and a team that was in last place a month ago is now 2.5 ahead. Go home,July, you're drunk.
 
2013-07-29 11:58:03 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: room at the top: jayhawk88: Rwa2play: Naw, sorry subby.  Your owner's a cheapskate and there was heat on his ass for not bringing in FAs to complement the talent.  So fark him.

Yeah and Wil Meyers is hitting .328 with 7 homers too. It's going to be great in '17 when Myers is working on his 2nd All Star Appearance and Tampa still has control of his rights for another year, and Shields has been on the Blue Jays for 2 years.

But hey: At least we have a winning streak going now so we won't trade Santana at the height of his value. Can't wait until he regresses back into a 5 ERA guy.

Yeah, if we only kept Myers we'd be 10 games under with a rotation of Santana, Hochever, Guthrie, Mendoza and Chen.

This! We would be worse in the long run with Meyers. Yes, He might be allstar next but we would just lose him in a couple years to fa. Lough is hitting .300 in right and saves us money for free agents.


The Royals would have had Myers until 2018, and in fact if they didn't call him up before mid June (which is exactly what the Rays did), they get an extra year on his rookie deal. He won't be eligible for free agency until 2019. Now, if Myers does turn into '41 Ted Williams between now and then, there's probably going to be some arbitration happening, dude would get paid, but still, they are in no danger of losing him unless they want to trade him.
 
2013-07-29 11:59:06 AM  

DeWayne Mann: Rwa2play: TB needs a #2 hitter in front of Jennings and behind Longoria/Meyers. That would be a killer lineup.

That's quite a lineup construction.


It would keep the umps busy.

/also - who had the Cubs with an equal record as the Angels and a better one than the Giants?
 
2013-07-29 12:01:10 PM  

Dafatone: A couple years?  You mean six years.

Are the Royals going anywhere with Shields this season?  No.

Are the Royals going anywhere with Shields next season?  Who knows, but probably not.

Are the Royals resigning Shields?  No.

So, you've given up a huge piece, who could have been there for another six years after this one, in order to not accomplish anything.  But ownership showed the fans that they're "committed to winning now," so hooray for that.


Plus, there were FA pitchers still available when they made that trade. You might have had to give them 10% more to convince them to sign with KC, but it's not like this Shields trade was this lone lifeline available to solve the starting pitching issue.

This was a move designed to save Dayton Moore's job, pure and simple.
 
2013-07-29 12:02:44 PM  

The Crepes of Wrath: It was apparent even before Weiner spoke with theDaily News that the union was willing to work with the league rather than fight with it over the scandal. Most notably, Weiner raised eyebrows when he said before the All-Star Game on Tuesday that the suspensions outlined in the Joint Drug Agreement don't necessarily apply to the Biogenesis scandal.


I found that very surprising that Weiner let that back door open for MLB to do what they wished.
 
2013-07-29 12:03:45 PM  

bacongood: It would keep the umps busy.


Especially if Longoria & Myers are batting at the same time.

bacongood: /also - who had the Cubs with an equal record as the Angels and a better one than the Giants?


But Theo is ruining the team!

jayhawk88: Dafatone: A couple years?  You mean six years.

Are the Royals going anywhere with Shields this season?  No.

Are the Royals going anywhere with Shields next season?  Who knows, but probably not.

Are the Royals resigning Shields?  No.

So, you've given up a huge piece, who could have been there for another six years after this one, in order to not accomplish anything.  But ownership showed the fans that they're "committed to winning now," so hooray for that.

Plus, there were FA pitchers still available when they made that trade. You might have had to give them 10% more to convince them to sign with KC, but it's not like this Shields trade was this lone lifeline available to solve the starting pitching issue.

This was a move designed to save Dayton Moore's job, pure and simple.


Just FYI, I've made all of these points to him in the past.
 
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