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2013-07-29 02:24:39 PM  

Super Chronic: Why Would I Read the Article: LMAO. So Russell Wilson is now Bo Jackson, JFK and Kurt Cobain in one? And you completely missed the point, too. I'm not saying Wilson wouldn't be remembered, period, if he were to die young, I'm saying he wouldn't be remembered for having a "legendary" work ethic. And you still haven't explained what makes it so "legendary." But if you didn't understand that in the first go round, you probably won't understand it now, and it probably can't be explained to you. So we'll move on.

Don't take it from me, take it from the veteran players, coaches and scouts who have all been around the block and swear, to a man, that his preparation is unlike that of anyone else they've ever played with.  Look, I'm real sorry you root for a team whose QB is an unlikeable bro-douche with chin pubes and Jesus tats who will never live up to Wilson's magnetism; he's pretty good too, though, and maybe he can use that dickweed thing to his advantage by making the rest of the league dislike him so much they lose focus.


The Seahawks won't lose focus. Don't worry about that.
 
2013-07-29 02:29:54 PM  
js34603:What's easy is talking about how many games you totally would have won if things had just gone a different way. Every team easily would have won more games if things went different. Seattle isn't special in that, unless you count having fans so delusional as to think that actually matters.

I did not claim that they deserved to win those games, nor that they were special. I'm saying that the errors that caused those completely legitimate losses have been addressed through the offseason acquisitions of Winfield, Avril & Bennett and the expected progression of young players like Wagner, Wright, Irvin, Lane, Thurmond, etc.

The only reason I mentioned those games was to demonstrate that Percy Harvin, while a great player who brings a lot to the table, not being on the field does not spell doom for the Seahawks. They were already good and within a hair or two of having an elite season before they even had an inkling of a thought of trading for him.
 
2013-07-29 02:35:44 PM  

Shame Us: I'm saying that the errors that caused those completely legitimate losses have been addressed through the offseason acquisitions of Winfield, Avril & Bennett and the expected progression of young players like Wagner, Wright, Irvin, Lane, Thurmond, etc.


Don't forget about all the PEDs, either. Those should really help, assuming you still have a player or two left on the opening day roster who hasn't been suspended for them.

19-0 or bust!
 
2013-07-29 02:49:05 PM  

Shame Us: js34603:What's easy is talking about how many games you totally would have won if things had just gone a different way. Every team easily would have won more games if things went different. Seattle isn't special in that, unless you count having fans so delusional as to think that actually matters.

I did not claim that they deserved to win those games, nor that they were special. I'm saying that the errors that caused those completely legitimate losses have been addressed through the offseason acquisitions of Winfield, Avril & Bennett and the expected progression of young players like Wagner, Wright, Irvin, Lane, Thurmond, etc.

The only reason I mentioned those games was to demonstrate that Percy Harvin, while a great player who brings a lot to the table, not being on the field does not spell doom for the Seahawks. They were already good and within a hair or two of having an elite season before they even had an inkling of a thought of trading for him.


Yeah that's totally what you said. You didn't say they should have easily been 14-2. Must have been me misreading "they should have easily been 14-2" when I should have read "they totally fixed everything that ever caused them to lose and who needs Percy Harvin."

And I should also assumes what they did last year means anything this year because that's how it is in the NFL. Every year every team builds on their record from last year and only gets better.

I'm bored with Seattle fans already (guess I need to up my prescription) so let's just bottom line this. Seattle had a good year...last year. They look good on paper this year. Neither of those things mean shiat until they start playing this year. And the games they should have "easily won" last year mean even less. So talking about that makes you sound like a delusional Seahawks fan. There's nothing wrong with "hey they look good this year" but "well they should have easily won 15 games last year so they didn't really need Percy Harvin" is just rambling idiocy.
 
2013-07-29 02:57:23 PM  

Shame Us: Super Chronic: whizbangthedirtfarmer: 3) everyone is worked up over Harvin's injury, but Seattle did fine without him previously

I'm still kinda worked up about it, I guess because "fine" isn't the standard I'm setting for this team now.  Harvin was going to be the player to put them over the top.  The offense was good and at times great in the second half of last season but in a competent, moving-the-chains kind of way.  Harvin was going to be that guy who changes games and makes the team win games they otherwise have no business winning, like Victor Cruz... the difference between 11-5 with a wild card berth and 13-3 with home field through the playoffs.

They scored 150 pts over 3 games, including 42 against SF. Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.

The Seahawks should have been 13-3 at least last season. Braylon Edwards dropped the game-winning TD in AZ Week 1 and the defense didn't hold on the final drive in Detroit or Miami. With the additions made outside of Harvin this offseason (Winfield, Avril, Bennett) and the progression of a ton of young players (Lane, Thurmond, Wilson, Wagner, Wright, Irvin, etc.) I'd bet this team is still extremely capable of a season that would put them in the #1 or #2 seed.


"Dear Diary,"
 
2013-07-29 03:18:34 PM  

js34603: Shame Us: js34603:What's easy is talking about how many games you totally would have won if things had just gone a different way. Every team easily would have won more games if things went different. Seattle isn't special in that, unless you count having fans so delusional as to think that actually matters.

I did not claim that they deserved to win those games, nor that they were special. I'm saying that the errors that caused those completely legitimate losses have been addressed through the offseason acquisitions of Winfield, Avril & Bennett and the expected progression of young players like Wagner, Wright, Irvin, Lane, Thurmond, etc.

The only reason I mentioned those games was to demonstrate that Percy Harvin, while a great player who brings a lot to the table, not being on the field does not spell doom for the Seahawks. They were already good and within a hair or two of having an elite season before they even had an inkling of a thought of trading for him.

Yeah that's totally what you said. You didn't say they should have easily been 14-2. Must have been me misreading "they should have easily been 14-2" when I should have read "they totally fixed everything that ever caused them to lose and who needs Percy Harvin."

And I should also assumes what they did last year means anything this year because that's how it is in the NFL. Every year every team builds on their record from last year and only gets better.

I'm bored with Seattle fans already (guess I need to up my prescription) so let's just bottom line this. Seattle had a good year...last year. They look good on paper this year. Neither of those things mean shiat until they start playing this year. And the games they should have "easily won" last year mean even less. So talking about that makes you sound like a delusional Seahawks fan. There's nothing wrong with "hey they look good this year" but "well they should have easily won 15 games last year so they didn't really need Percy Harvin" is just rambling i ...


Deliberately misinterpreting what I said is idiocy. The team was an 11-5 team last year, no doubt. And of course you can't project that onto this season with certainty, but that's all we really have at this point right? The fact is that the Seattle Seahawks were 2 defensive drives and single dropped pass, all of which took place in the final 2 minutes of games, from winning 14 games last season...without Percy Harvin. Those are facts. Not blatant homerism, not pie in the sky miracle wishing. They had the lead late in two games that they lost with poor play on the final defensive drive in Detroit and Miami. The gamewinning TD pass hit Braylon Edwards in the hands inside the final minute of the 1st AZ game. Of course those losses are legitimate and deserved - they dropped the pass, they allowed the late scores, they started flat in Miami. As a Seahawks fan, I was very disappointed in the play of the defense on late drives in Detroit, Miami, Chicago and Atlanta. The lack of ability to pressure the QB led to late, game-deciding scores and was unacceptable. The additions of Avril and Bennett should address those issues on the line, if not with their ability to passrush, with the increased availability of fresh legs late in games with a 4-man DE/LEO rotation instead of relying on Clemons and Irvin on late passing downs. The addition of a veteran presence in Winfield to the secondary is icing on the cake.

Let's not pretend, though, that the talent they showed in winning 11 games (many of them handily) and nearly progressing to the NFC Championship game can't carry over from last year when nearly all the key personnel is the same, if not improved. And that's all before anyone even mentions Percy Harvin. I love the Harvin trade/signing and I think it's a big blow if he misses significant time, but essentially what they have if he misses a lot of time is the same 11-5 team from last year that was 2 defensive drives and a single dropped pass from a 1st round bye and homefield throughout. No, that doesn't mean it will all come together this season, but it is a very solid indicator of future success.

This season's schedule looks a little tougher than last year, with the West playing the NFC & AFC South, but then again SF has to play those same teams in the battle to take the division. I don't see a game on that schedule that is not winnable. The toughest should be SF or ATL away and both those games last season came down to 1 score losses - and both those teams, much like the Seahawks, have retained the vast majority of their starters. If I had to handicap it now, I'd say the season will end up in the 11-5 or 12-4 range with a very close battle for the top of the West and the Seahawks and Niners entering the playoffs as teams no one wants to face.

None of this means squat when the games start, but for now it's all we have and also indicative of a good, if not great, season.
 
2013-07-29 03:21:18 PM  
...and people say packer fans are still butthurt
 
2013-07-29 03:24:41 PM  

Shame Us: Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.


www.dallascowboys.com
Where is Russel Wilson on this chart?  Where are Payton Manning and Collin Kaepernick?  Wilson got away with a lot last season - don't expect him to be so lucky.  Being a 5'11" twerp stacks the odds against him, especially once he gets a solid hit against him the first time.  We'll see how his body holds up to that, and how defenses exploit his (lack of) height.
 
2013-07-29 03:26:39 PM  

thecpt: ...and people say packer fans are still butthurt


Not butthurt, long-winded and argumentative.
 
2013-07-29 03:27:02 PM  
I, for one, am SHOCKED that Percy is hurt.

SHOCKED I SAY.

You will have 11 productive games from him. For your sake, hope they are at least at the END of the season before he falls apart for good.

Between him and Sidney, Seattle is to us what we are to the Packers. "Oh you have a guy that we won;t pay what they want anymore? COME ON DOWN!" Only difference is we take old people, ya'll take injury prone receivers.
 
2013-07-29 03:32:14 PM  

spiderpaz: Shame Us: Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.

[www.dallascowboys.com image 540x422]
Where is Russel Wilson on this chart?  Where are Payton Manning and Collin Kaepernick?  Wilson got away with a lot last season - don't expect him to be so lucky.  Being a 5'11" twerp stacks the odds against him, especially once he gets a solid hit against him the first time.  We'll see how his body holds up to that, and how defenses exploit his (lack of) height.


He was 5'11" last season when he threw 26 TDs after being handcuffed by Pete Carroll for half the season. Were defenses unaware of this? The only time I can think of where Wilson "got away with a lot" was the final pass of the GB game.
 
2013-07-29 03:35:51 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: I, for one, am SHOCKED that Percy is hurt.

SHOCKED I SAY.

You will have 11 productive games from him. For your sake, hope they are at least at the END of the season before he falls apart for good.

Between him and Sidney, Seattle is to us what we are to the Packers. "Oh you have a guy that we won;t pay what they want anymore? COME ON DOWN!" Only difference is we take old people, ya'll take injury prone receivers.


Careful now, you might be in why not both territory soon enough with Jennings.
 
2013-07-29 03:39:23 PM  

Good old football season here on Fark. Where we people get just as retarted as the politics tab in the same exact way as the politics tab does it too:

I HAVE AN OPINION INFLUENCED BY MY INTERPETATION OF PAST FACTS SO THEREFORE I SHALL PROJECT MY OPINION AS FACT TO THE INTERNET AND ARGUE WITH OTHERS ABOUT IT TO THE POINT WHERE I ACTUALLY GET REAL LIFE ANGRY.

FEEL MY WRATH.

 
2013-07-29 03:43:31 PM  

thecpt: Jim from Saint Paul: I, for one, am SHOCKED that Percy is hurt.

SHOCKED I SAY.

You will have 11 productive games from him. For your sake, hope they are at least at the END of the season before he falls apart for good.

Between him and Sidney, Seattle is to us what we are to the Packers. "Oh you have a guy that we won;t pay what they want anymore? COME ON DOWN!" Only difference is we take old people, ya'll take injury prone receivers.

Careful now, you might be in why not both territory soon enough with Jennings.


...

...

How about that Adrian Peterson, huh?
 
2013-07-29 03:45:48 PM  
Russell Wilson reminds me of the guy you work with who is just so damn nice and mature about everything, you almost want to set him up for failure or an awkward moment just so you and your friends can be like "HA! I knew it! You're NOT perfect!"

It wouldn't surprise if him and his wife invite teammates over during the season for karaoke, board games, and other really silly, safe activities and the locker room is like "uh, um, yeah, maybe...I'll...uh...get back to you...really..."
 
2013-07-29 03:54:18 PM  

TacitusProximus: rufus-t-firefly: Subby's right, especially considering these refs won't be calling any of their games.

[sportsblog.bethubb.com image 850x636]

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/shame-the-angry-mob-gol de n-tates-touchdown-was-legit/17706/

Read this before you flaunt your ignorance again. And notice the picture halfway down, the shot from the back of the endzone, an angle nobody in the nation but those receiving Seattle's network feed saw: two feet on the ground, possession of the ball while Jennings is still in the air. Touchdown.


1.  That's guy blog really, really sucks.
2.  For being a site based in facts, he doesn't understand the possession rule AT ALL.
 
2013-07-29 03:54:41 PM  
Junior Gallette says hes coming to meet that Wilson fellow Monday Dec 2nd Seahawks

i.imgur.com

You gonna lose
 
2013-07-29 04:00:32 PM  

mikaloyd: Junior Gallette says hes coming to meet that Wilson fellow Monday Dec 2nd Seahawks

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You gonna lose


2 career starts and 32 solo tackles in 3 seasons. Is there no one better on the Saints D? Not that it would surprise me if there weren't.
 
2013-07-29 04:16:11 PM  

PowerSlacker: 1. That's guy blog really, really sucks.
2. For being a site based in facts, he doesn't understand the possession rule AT ALL.


But his site name is a blatant ripoff of the most idiotic feature on ESPN! Are you saying that you would like to put him on the Budweiser Hot Seat and grill him about the possession rule, brought to you by auto trader.com?
 
2013-07-29 04:29:05 PM  
Ugh, I know it's a local paper and all (well, a blog in a local paper, but still) but I got to all of the 6th "what if" and couldn't stomach it any longer.

Seriously? "What if the opponent silences the 12th Man?" Every single thing is just a hypothetical "what if" on that list. Here's a better one:

"What if all the other teams' quarterbacks end up snapping their legs like dried twigs?"

"What if the Seahawks end up routing the 9ers on Sunday Night Football so badly it makes hardened veterans like Brady wet themselves?"

/guessing is fun!
 
2013-07-29 04:35:56 PM  

Iczer: Ugh, I know it's a local paper and all (well, a blog in a local paper, but still) but I got to all of the 6th "what if" and couldn't stomach it any longer.

Seriously? "What if the opponent silences the 12th Man?" Every single thing is just a hypothetical "what if" on that list. Here's a better one:

"What if all the other teams' quarterbacks end up snapping their legs like dried twigs?"

"What if the Seahawks end up routing the 9ers on Sunday Night Football so badly it makes hardened veterans like Brady wet themselves?"

/guessing is fun!


The PI isn't even a paper anymore. They stopped printing a couple years ago. This is like a sub-blog to a shiatty local version of The Huffington Post or something.
 
2013-07-29 04:40:55 PM  

mikaloyd: Junior Gallette says hes coming to meet that Wilson fellow Monday Dec 2nd Seahawks

[i.imgur.com image 600x636]

You gonna lose


I've never heard of him.  But maybe someday if he improves enough he can sign as a FA for a decent team.  Will be interesting to see what he does about his tat at that point...
 
2013-07-29 04:46:19 PM  

mikaloyd: Junior Gallette says hes coming to meet that Wilson fellow Monday Dec 2nd Seahawks

[i.imgur.com image 600x636]

You gonna lose


media.bonnint.net

Bring it.
 
2013-07-29 05:01:26 PM  

Shame Us: mikaloyd: Junior Gallette says hes coming to meet that Wilson fellow Monday Dec 2nd Seahawks

[i.imgur.com image 600x636]

You gonna lose

2 career starts and 32 solo tackles in 3 seasons. Is there no one better on the Saints D? Not that it would surprise me if there weren't.


Actually that remains to be seen. They are starting from scratch on defense this year after not botherin with having one last year. Going wirth a 3-4 one gap hybrid bastardized thing Wolfman Rob is installing. Also the Saints will use a head coach this year, which also seems important to the team.
 
2013-07-29 05:05:05 PM  

Taima: mikaloyd: Junior Gallette says hes coming to meet that Wilson fellow Monday Dec 2nd Seahawks

[i.imgur.com image 600x636]

You gonna lose

[media.bonnint.net image 498x360]

Bring it.


Hold my D.
 
2013-07-29 05:12:23 PM  

mikaloyd: Shame Us: mikaloyd: Junior Gallette says hes coming to meet that Wilson fellow Monday Dec 2nd Seahawks

[i.imgur.com image 600x636]

You gonna lose

2 career starts and 32 solo tackles in 3 seasons. Is there no one better on the Saints D? Not that it would surprise me if there weren't.

Actually that remains to be seen. They are starting from scratch on defense this year after not botherin with having one last year. Going wirth a 3-4 one gap hybrid bastardized thing Wolfman Rob is installing. Also the Saints will use a head coach this year, which also seems important to the team.


Anyone who questions the importance of a good head coach need only look at the 2012 Saints.
 
2013-07-29 05:39:28 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Super Chronic: The guy is already a legend for his work ethic,

Lolz. This line must be repeated on air sirens throughout Seattle 24/7, because no matter where you go (fark, other message boards, anywhere), Seadderall fans are repeating this line ad nauseum. He's already a "legend," huh? So, if he were to die or retire suddenly, we'd still be talking about his "legendary" work ethic 30 years from now? Has it been immoratilized in a song by Bob Dylan? Will Obama talk about it in his state of the union address?

Legend. That word. I don't think it means what Seadderall fans think it means.


It is common knowledge that "work ethic" is all it takes to succeed in the NFL.  Well, it is less common knowledge that "work ethic" is a thinly veiled way of saying "not a thug."
 
2013-07-29 05:45:55 PM  
This thread is hysterical.
 
2013-07-29 05:56:34 PM  
BTW, can we remove the whole "if their starting QB gets injured" from the list of how seasons could go wrong, that'd be nice.

Y'know, since it applies to pretty much every team.

But yeah, the whining from opposing teams' fans is pretty funny.

/the reason they won't win is because Seattle teams aren't allowed to win. If one wins a title, they have to move out of the city.
 
2013-07-29 06:11:58 PM  

spiderpaz: Where is Russel Wilson on this chart?  Where are Payton Manning and Collin Kaepernick?  Wilson got away with a lot last season - don't expect him to be so lucky.


Ah, you still believe in the retarded thought process that cause Wilson to drop to the 3rd round, and you're using an aggregate scoring system that basically shows "the league likes hiring tall QBs."

AV is a counting stat and you're not even averaging by QB on that chart. All that chart says is "most QBs are tall."

Front offices are finally starting to realize that QBs aren't looking OVER defensive lines - they're looking through windows in them.

Wilson does have a lot of room to improve, but he improved the most of any of the rookie QBs over the span of the year. He'll be just fine if defenses have "figured out" the read-option. BTW, people realize that even if you've "figured out" some things, you may not have the personnel to do so, right? I'm pretty sure most people realize that the Packers were going to make a bunch of short- to mid-range passes and weren't going to run much...yet they still scored a lot.

You have to not only "figure out" how to stop it, you have to have the proper personnel and you have to not make mistakes. It's not like people in the NFL have never run into a read-option offense before. Defenses have simply been designed to work on stopping passing attacks similar to the Packers and Patriots. Now that they're built for that, the read-option works well against them. It takes time to build a defense that can stop an offense that executes. Then, at that point, teams will start using other kinds of offenses.

The read-option isn't a gimmick play/formation like the Wildcat, where you're basically going to run 90% of the time because you don't have a competent passer handling the ball.
 
2013-07-29 07:15:54 PM  
Also, it's going to go wrong against the clowny-ass Panthers? I suppose it's possible. But it'd be more reasonable to at least pick a good opponent.
 
2013-07-29 08:59:42 PM  
Number 2 is the stupidest point anyone makes for any game.  Yes, they barely won 3 games, and could potentially have finished 8-8 or 9-7.  Nobody points out the opposite end of the farking spectrum though.  We blew leads against Arizona, Detroit, and Miami.  We could've been 13-3!

Stop using this argument, for any team.  It makes you look like a farking retard.
 
2013-07-29 09:18:59 PM  

spiderpaz: Shame Us: Wilson tied Peyton Manning's record for most TDs passes by a rookie QB.

[www.dallascowboys.com image 540x422]
Where is Russel Wilson on this chart?  Where are Payton Manning and Collin Kaepernick?  Wilson got away with a lot last season - don't expect him to be so lucky.  Being a 5'11" twerp stacks the odds against him, especially once he gets a solid hit against him the first time.  We'll see how his body holds up to that, and how defenses exploit his (lack of) height.


That's a lot of anger for just pointing out a statistic.  Which team of yours did we roflstomp last year?
 
2013-07-29 09:28:29 PM  
The QB height thing is fairly misleading, very few QBs actually see over their lines these days, as most linemen run 6'6"-6'8".
 
2013-07-29 09:55:05 PM  

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2013-07-29 09:57:18 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The QB height thing is fairly misleading, very few QBs actually see over their lines these days, as most linemen run 6'6"-6'8".


Truth but the qb stands nearly upright while the line should be at quarter squat.
 
2013-07-29 10:27:08 PM  

thecpt: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The QB height thing is fairly misleading, very few QBs actually see over their lines these days, as most linemen run 6'6"-6'8".

Truth but the qb stands nearly upright while the line should be at quarter squat.


Yeah, but while they're at squat QB height is irrelevant, and when they get stood up after the snap, QB height is irrelevant.
 
2013-07-30 02:16:28 AM  

star_topology: Of the sophomore QBs to regress this season--I just have a feeling that it's going to be Wilson.


I bet he regresses from where he was the last 4 weeks of the 2012 regular season as well.... Because if he doesn't (and there are no major injuries to any of a few key players) the Seahawks will go 14-2, have home field advantage the entire playoffs, and will easily make the Superbowl.

But who will regress the most? RG III. He is pushing too hard and will either hurt himself or play with reduced mobility. Even if the result is only ongoing low mobility it will hold him back and he will not be as good as he was last year.
Luck won't regress, but only because his team is better so he will have the opportunity to make better choices and improve his overall performance. But it will only be a small improvement.
 
2013-07-30 03:03:47 AM  

Why Would I Read the Article: Super Chronic: The guy is already a legend for his work ethic,

Lolz. This line must be repeated on air sirens throughout Seattle 24/7, because no matter where you go (fark, other message boards, anywhere), Seadderall fans are repeating this line ad nauseum. He's already a "legend," huh? So, if he were to die or retire suddenly, we'd still be talking about his "legendary" work ethic 30 years from now? Has it been immoratilized in a song by Bob Dylan? Will Obama talk about it in his state of the union address?

Legend. That word. I don't think it means what Seadderall fans think it means.


30 years from now Bob Dylan will be dead and Obama won't be president. But putting those idiotic comments aside.... Yes, if he wins even one Superbowl as a 5'11" 3rd round draft pick then 30 years from now people will still be talking about his work ethic, because his work ethic is RIDICULOUS. There isn't a single player in the game that works harder and sacrifices more to be a leader and be prepared than he does. For instance, even though he makes a pittance compared to Luck and RG III, he still personally paid for multiple players, many of whom he knew had almost no chance to make the team this year, to fly to LA for a workout/get to know each other session. He puts together extra practices on his own every week and spends extra time with various other players to improve their game and his. He know the film better than coaches who should have 5 times as much time as him to watch film. Players and coaches. some of whom have worked with legendary players, say nobody else they have ever worked with is more dedicated on a minute to minute basis than Wilson. Look how quickly he learned the Wisconsin system and then dominated the Big 10. He is forming a legend around himself, and if he keeps this pace up and wins even one Superbowl he will be remembered forever for his work ethic.

You can dismiss this all you like but your doing so doesn't change reality.
 
2013-07-30 09:18:33 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: thecpt: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The QB height thing is fairly misleading, very few QBs actually see over their lines these days, as most linemen run 6'6"-6'8".

Truth but the qb stands nearly upright while the line should be at quarter squat.

Yeah, but while they're at squat QB height is irrelevant, and when they get stood up after the snap, QB height is irrelevant.


If they get "stood up" they're blocking integrity has been compromised.
 
2013-07-30 09:46:55 AM  

homarjr: I can't stand Wilson. There's something about him.


I know, isn't it ridiculous?  His incredible work ethic, his admirable humility, his total lack of attention-whoring and individualism.  What a farking dick!
 
2013-07-30 10:02:43 AM  

karmachameleon: homarjr: I can't stand Wilson. There's something about him.

I know, isn't it ridiculous?  His incredible work ethic, his admirable humility, his total lack of attention-whoring and individualism.  What a farking dick!


I don't understand anyone who speaks negatively of Wilson, and I say this as a 49er fan. The guy is almost everything you'd want in a player, well besides the fact he can't catch his own passes on every first down and run them into the end zone, which will cure a child of cancer, but other than that I'm sure every fan would love to have him play for their favorite team.
 
2013-07-30 10:22:50 AM  

wiwille: karmachameleon: homarjr: I can't stand Wilson. There's something about him.

I know, isn't it ridiculous?  His incredible work ethic, his admirable humility, his total lack of attention-whoring and individualism.  What a farking dick!

I don't understand anyone who speaks negatively of Wilson, and I say this as a 49er fan. The guy is almost everything you'd want in a player, well besides the fact he can't catch his own passes on every first down and run them into the end zone, which will cure a child of cancer, but other than that I'm sure every fan would love to have him play for their favorite team.


In all seriousness, me neither.  He's everything most sports fans wish they saw more often in pro sports.  Watching all the over-inflated egos and me-first players out there, Wilson is a refreshing breath of fresh air, and one gets the distinct impression that fame and fortune, no matter how much he sees of it, will never change these fundamental things about him.  No offense intended to the OP, but saying something like, "I can't stand Wilson," just sounds phenomenally dull and unthoughtful.
 
2013-07-30 11:23:45 AM  

Killer Cars: Russell Wilson reminds me of the guy you work with who is just so damn nice and mature about everything, you almost want to set him up for failure or an awkward moment just so you and your friends can be like "HA! I knew it! You're NOT perfect!"

It wouldn't surprise if him and his wife invite teammates over during the season for karaoke, board games, and other really silly, safe activities and the locker room is like "uh, um, yeah, maybe...I'll...uh...get back to you...really..."


Michael Robinson posts vids from Seahawks training camps, etc.  It's fun to watch how the players interact with Wilson.  They'll poke fun at him, but they never go much further.  He'll crack a smile every now and then.  And when he's on the field, they listen to every word he says.  He's what?  23?  Pretty impressive.
 
2013-07-30 12:10:17 PM  

arentol: Why Would I Read the Article: Super Chronic: The guy is already a legend for his work ethic,

Lolz. This line must be repeated on air sirens throughout Seattle 24/7, because no matter where you go (fark, other message boards, anywhere), Seadderall fans are repeating this line ad nauseum. He's already a "legend," huh? So, if he were to die or retire suddenly, we'd still be talking about his "legendary" work ethic 30 years from now? Has it been immoratilized in a song by Bob Dylan? Will Obama talk about it in his state of the union address?

Legend. That word. I don't think it means what Seadderall fans think it means.

30 years from now Bob Dylan will be dead and Obama won't be president. But putting those idiotic comments aside.... Yes, if he wins even one Superbowl as a 5'11" 3rd round draft pick then 30 years from now people will still be talking about his work ethic, because his work ethic is RIDICULOUS. There isn't a single player in the game that works harder and sacrifices more to be a leader and be prepared than he does. For instance, even though he makes a pittance compared to Luck and RG III, he still personally paid for multiple players, many of whom he knew had almost no chance to make the team this year, to fly to LA for a workout/get to know each other session. He puts together extra practices on his own every week and spends extra time with various other players to improve their game and his. He know the film better than coaches who should have 5 times as much time as him to watch film. Players and coaches. some of whom have worked with legendary players, say nobody else they have ever worked with is more dedicated on a minute to minute basis than Wilson. Look how quickly he learned the Wisconsin system and then dominated the Big 10. He is forming a legend around himself, and if he keeps this pace up and wins even one Superbowl he will be remembered forever for his work ethic.

You can dismiss this all you like but your doing so doesn't change reality.


From an article earlier this summer.  The Navy SEALs have trained many athletes. They told Butch Jones the most impressive athlete/leader they've ever worked with is Russell Wilson

The guy spends something like 13 hours a day at the VMAC in the offseason.  He's a robot.

He still has a lot of winning to do and is not a "legend", but yes, his work ethic is already legendary.
 
2013-07-30 12:51:57 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: [i36.photobucket.com image 375x388]


Finally someone gets to the root of the issue

/Go Seahawks
 
2013-07-30 02:38:04 PM  

karmachameleon: wiwille: karmachameleon: homarjr: I can't stand Wilson. There's something about him.

I know, isn't it ridiculous?  His incredible work ethic, his admirable humility, his total lack of attention-whoring and individualism.  What a farking dick!

I don't understand anyone who speaks negatively of Wilson, and I say this as a 49er fan. The guy is almost everything you'd want in a player, well besides the fact he can't catch his own passes on every first down and run them into the end zone, which will cure a child of cancer, but other than that I'm sure every fan would love to have him play for their favorite team.

In all seriousness, me neither.  He's everything most sports fans wish they saw more often in pro sports.  Watching all the over-inflated egos and me-first players out there, Wilson is a refreshing breath of fresh air, and one gets the distinct impression that fame and fortune, no matter how much he sees of it, will never change these fundamental things about him.  No offense intended to the OP, but saying something like, "I can't stand Wilson," just sounds phenomenally dull and unthoughtful.


I'm not allowed to dislike someone for my own personal reasons? We're talking about sports. I honestly don't care how these people act off the field. Something about Wilson ON THE FIELD bothers me. I think he's good, and he works very hard, but I don't think he's all that people are making him to be, ON THE FIELD. I believe he's going to regress this season, and all the hype around him makes me dislike him.

I don't like Tom Brady either. In fact, he's my least favourite player in the NFL. Ever. By all accounts, he's a good human being who works his ass off. I still hate him.
 
2013-07-30 03:03:55 PM  

homarjr: karmachameleon: wiwille: karmachameleon: homarjr: I can't stand Wilson. There's something about him.

I know, isn't it ridiculous?  His incredible work ethic, his admirable humility, his total lack of attention-whoring and individualism.  What a farking dick!

I don't understand anyone who speaks negatively of Wilson, and I say this as a 49er fan. The guy is almost everything you'd want in a player, well besides the fact he can't catch his own passes on every first down and run them into the end zone, which will cure a child of cancer, but other than that I'm sure every fan would love to have him play for their favorite team.

In all seriousness, me neither.  He's everything most sports fans wish they saw more often in pro sports.  Watching all the over-inflated egos and me-first players out there, Wilson is a refreshing breath of fresh air, and one gets the distinct impression that fame and fortune, no matter how much he sees of it, will never change these fundamental things about him.  No offense intended to the OP, but saying something like, "I can't stand Wilson," just sounds phenomenally dull and unthoughtful.

I'm not allowed to dislike someone for my own personal reasons? We're talking about sports. I honestly don't care how these people act off the field. Something about Wilson ON THE FIELD bothers me. I think he's good, and he works very hard, but I don't think he's all that people are making him to be, ON THE FIELD. I believe he's going to regress this season, and all the hype around him makes me dislike him.

I don't like Tom Brady either. In fact, he's my least favourite player in the NFL. Ever. By all accounts, he's a good human being who works his ass off. I still hate him.


ooooooohhhhhh. You're hatred is entirely irrational and based on nothing.
 
2013-07-30 05:29:39 PM  

homarjr: I'm not allowed to dislike someone for my own personal reasons? We're talking about sports. I honestly don't care how these people act off the field. Something about Wilson ON THE FIELD bothers me. I think he's good, and he works very hard, but I don't think he's all that people are making him to be, ON THE FIELD. I believe he's going to regress this season, and all the hype around him makes me dislike him.

I don't like Tom Brady either. In fact, he's my least favourite player in the NFL. Ever. By all accounts, he's a good human being who works his ass off. I still hate him.


You're allowed to do whatever you want, but all having these opinions is allowing you to do is to be wrong.
 
2013-07-30 07:37:48 PM  

homarjr: I think he's good, and he works very hard, but I don't think he's all that people are making him to be, ON THE FIELD. I believe he's going to regress this season, and all the hype around him makes me dislike him.


As a Seahawks fan and Russell Wilson fan, I will agree that he isn't what people make him out to be...yet. There were quite a few times last year where he scrambled for like 15 yards, which looked like a really good play...but on the replays you'll see Sidney Rice ALL alone downfield for what should've been a TD. He definitely has room to improve.

But it's very doubtful that he'll regress next season - you'll note that he only got better as the season went along and he learned to deal with the speed of the game and how to play at an NFL level. He was the top QB in the league according to QBR over the last half of the season or something like that. I'm not saying he'll be the best in the league this year, but he's not going to have numbers worse than last year's, especially if Harvin and Rice can play all year.

The adulation level for him, however, is really kinda pushing toward levels of Tim Tebow, at least here in Washington. At least he's been a far better QB, so it's at least a little merited.

/at least the Seahawks have someone who enjoys being a troll and being perceived as an asshole that those of us who can't really get super-excited about a goody-two-shoes (and I mean that in a nice way) can root for
//Go Richard Sherman!
 
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