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2013-07-29 11:11:14 AM
So where is the damage?
 
2013-07-29 11:23:39 AM

dittybopper: So where is the damage?


Eh, over time, that will wash out the banks of the canal and the property owners will literally lose their land, bit by bit.   Also, I can't imagine the fish like it too much.

While the roots from those lush, green lawns help keep the land in place, I cringe to think of the fertilizer running off into the water.
 
2013-07-29 12:02:08 PM

Lor M. Ipsum: dittybopper: So where is the damage?

Eh, over time, that will wash out the banks of the canal and the property owners will literally lose their land, bit by bit.   Also, I can't imagine the fish like it too much.


But that's true of anyone who lives that close to any flowing body of water.  I could have bought a house right on the Hudson River if I wanted, but I chose to be farther away, because I know about erosion (and flooding, for that matter).

And yes, canals flow.
 
2013-07-29 12:04:54 PM
This guy's life is just so horrible. I can't imagine the unending nightmare of being able to live on a cute canal with pretty bridges and fun little boats. That is just a goddamn awful existence.
 
2013-07-29 12:11:27 PM

dittybopper: Lor M. Ipsum: dittybopper: So where is the damage?

Eh, over time, that will wash out the banks of the canal and the property owners will literally lose their land, bit by bit.   Also, I can't imagine the fish like it too much.

But that's true of anyone who lives that close to any flowing body of water.  I could have bought a house right on the Hudson River if I wanted, but I chose to be farther away, because I know about erosion (and flooding, for that matter).

And yes, canals flow.


Yup.   Or do what my uncle did.

"We've got caves under the property."
"How long until it falls in the lake?"
"30 years"
"Well, I'll be dead in 25 and it's a third of the price of the cottage next door, so I'll take it"
 
2013-07-29 12:13:19 PM

dittybopper: But that's true of anyone who lives that close to any flowing body of water.


If they are allowing large tankers or cargo ships to go somewhere or go faster than they were previously not allowed this might be a new issue for them as homeowners to have to fight against.
 
2013-07-29 12:17:43 PM
Build a breakwater to act as a baffle at the mouth of the canal to moderate rand water level changes. The small boats on the canal could easiy circumnavigate it. Problem soved.

I guess ths guy would buy a house near an airport then complain about the noise.
 
2013-07-29 12:18:47 PM
I don't know the technical term (or it is not coming to me) but at the places I have been with similar setup, the owners build a kind a log wall in the water at the border of their land and canal to prevent land erosion.
 
2013-07-29 12:23:57 PM

talkertopc: I don't know the technical term (or it is not coming to me) but at the places I have been with similar setup, the owners build a kind a log wall in the water at the border of their land and canal to prevent land erosion.


Yeah, you can see some of the properties in the video have a seawall, like a metal roof, protecting their land from erosion.  I don't quite understand why the narrator complains that the seawalls are getting washed away (or how that would happen), but he seems like he's in an irritable mood, anyway.
 
2013-07-29 12:24:04 PM
That video made me relive the tsunami in Japan.  Not cool.  I was just getting over it as an American in the midwest.  The sheer power of water cannot be tamed.
 
2013-07-29 12:34:27 PM
What's a "fudder"?
 
2013-07-29 12:57:11 PM
What a bore!
 
2013-07-29 01:01:14 PM
Blaming the "thousand footer", that's just stupid. What do you want them to do, portage the thing? You bought a house on the water next to a shipping lane - probably got a real good deal, didn't you? Threw your shoulder out patting yourself on the back.

What you got, we grownups call an erosion problem, buddy. Can you say "bulkhead"? Hell, even riprap would help. But taking a video camera down to the bank and saying "The water is beating up my dirt boo hoo" just makes you look like a pre-schooler at a porno shoot - you have no idea what's going on.
 
2013-07-29 01:10:45 PM

crozzo: Blaming the "thousand footer", that's just stupid. What do you want them to do, portage the thing? You bought a house on the water next to a shipping lane - probably got a real good deal, didn't you? Threw your shoulder out patting yourself on the back.


Nailed it. He's of the same ilk of people who buy a house near an airport and biatch about how loud airplanes are..
 
2013-07-29 01:15:23 PM

styckx: crozzo: Blaming the "thousand footer", that's just stupid. What do you want them to do, portage the thing? You bought a house on the water next to a shipping lane - probably got a real good deal, didn't you? Threw your shoulder out patting yourself on the back.

Nailed it. He's of the same ilk of people who buy a house near an airport and biatch about how loud airplanes are..


Or the ones who buy a house near farmland, then complain about the smell of manure in the spring.

Or the ones who buy a house near a fish and game club and complain about the noise of the gunfire.

Or, or, well, you know.  There's no end to that kind of idiocy.
 
2013-07-29 01:36:23 PM

dittybopper: styckx: crozzo: Blaming the "thousand footer", that's just stupid. What do you want them to do, portage the thing? You bought a house on the water next to a shipping lane - probably got a real good deal, didn't you? Threw your shoulder out patting yourself on the back.

Nailed it. He's of the same ilk of people who buy a house near an airport and biatch about how loud airplanes are..

Or the ones who buy a house near farmland, then complain about the smell of manure in the spring.

Or the ones who buy a house near a fish and game club and complain about the noise of the gunfire.

Or, or, well, you know.  There's no end to that kind of idiocy.


When I moved to San Francisco my first treat was watching a city council meeting where a new homeowner was complaining about the rail noise from the trams in front of his new residence. You know, the tram line which has been there for a century.
 
2013-07-29 01:36:36 PM
Oh Boo the Fark Hoo
 
2013-07-29 01:53:38 PM
why link to a copy of a 2 year old vid?

YouTube: "Displacement from Ship causing damage"

Uploaded on Jun 8, 2011

The displacement effect caused by a 1000' long Freighter heading northbound on the St. Clair river can cause damage to canals and feeder streams if the ships move too fast through the water.

This canal used to be a breeding ground for numerous fish species such as Bass, Walleye, even Sturgeon. Now, because of years of damage - all aquatic life that used to breed in these streams is absent.

This wasn't a problem in the past, as strict speed limits on freighters was maintained. Now that they are moving faster, the effects are multiplied... and damage occuring
 
Bf+
2013-07-29 02:34:35 PM
You bought a house next to water, you deserve everything that comes to you, and then some... just like Katrina!
/am I doing this right?
 
2013-07-29 02:44:04 PM
Wasn't this greenlit a week ago?

I swear I saw this on FARK a week ago.
 
2013-07-29 02:59:56 PM
I think this is the location where this was filmed.

On the one hand, "first world problems" but on the other, if the ships are moving faster than they used to be allowed to move, then they are definitely in the wrong here.
 
2013-07-29 03:38:40 PM

LesserEvil: I think this is the location where this was filmed.

On the one hand, "first world problems" but on the other, if the ships are moving faster than they used to be allowed to move, then they are definitely in the wrong here.


If you look about 346 yards to the south-west of where you placed that mark, I believe you will find the actual bridge in question, based upon it being a red-decked bridge between two wooden ones, and based upon the general configuration of the houses and the one big propane tank out by itself.
 
2013-07-29 03:50:40 PM
I've got to be honest, here:  In looking at that area on Google Earth, that canal doesn't seem to provide any real function other than to increase the number of "waterfront" homes:  The whole thing is barely 1 mile long, and it's not big enough for anything other than small pleasure craft.  It isn't a bypass for a lock system, nor does it feed another body of water:  It merely creates a series of islands upon which there are a bunch of what appear to be vacation or summer homes, and it provides boat access to those who are on the land-ward side of the canal.

Don't like the fact that you purchased waterfront property in an area with heavy commercial shipping traffic?  Man up, Nancy, buy yourself some riprap, and chill the fark out.
 
2013-07-29 03:52:02 PM

dittybopper: LesserEvil: I think this is the location where this was filmed.

On the one hand, "first world problems" but on the other, if the ships are moving faster than they used to be allowed to move, then they are definitely in the wrong here.

If you look about 346 yards to the south-west of where you placed that mark, I believe you will find the actual bridge in question, based upon it being a red-decked bridge between two wooden ones, and based upon the general configuration of the houses and the one big propane tank out by itself.


Still it's small residences on the farking waters edge of a major waterway -- that's not some sleep canal in the middle of nowhere. It's like complaining about noise when your house borders on a 6 lane interstate offramp.
 
2013-07-29 03:54:26 PM

lohphat: Still it's small residences on the farking waters edge of a major waterway -- that's not some sleep canal in the middle of nowhere. It's like complaining about noise when your house borders on a 6 lane interstate offramp.


Not only that, I bet those are vacation homes.
 
2013-07-29 04:13:09 PM

dittybopper: lohphat: Still it's small residences on the farking waters edge of a major waterway -- that's not some sleep canal in the middle of nowhere. It's like complaining about noise when your house borders on a 6 lane interstate offramp.

Not only that, I bet those are vacation homes.


Maybe.  They might be retirement homes (ie: cheap and pretty and close to the grandkids), but I doubt they're vacation homes.

Vacation homes are usually somewhere in the fingers or the thumb on a lake within a 20-30 minute drive of some midsized town that is artsy and cool and incredibly touristy.

/Grandma lives in Toledo, but vacations near South Haven on Lake Michigan.
//Uncle Ric lives in Union Lake, but vacations in the summer in Put-In-Bay, and winters in Florida.
 
2013-07-29 04:44:46 PM
It seems to me the biggest risk would be little kids at the waters edge.  But that is what parents are for.
 
2013-07-29 06:41:26 PM
TheBlackFlag: It seems to me the biggest risk would be little kids at the waters edge.  But that is what parents are Darwin is  for.
 
2013-07-29 08:13:24 PM

LesserEvil: I think this is the location where this was filmed.

On the one hand, "first world problems" but on the other, if the ships are moving faster than they used to be allowed to move, then they are definitely in the wrong here.


Other than protection from zombies why would you live on a made man island by digging a canal 100ft away from an parallel to a river? Building a dam across the canal to prevent flow through and problem solved, of course then people would have to venture out into the main channel...
 
2013-07-29 10:25:38 PM
I wonder what it's like when the gales of November come through...
 
2013-07-29 11:51:45 PM
Windscreen.

WINDSCREEN!!!
 
2013-07-30 12:58:24 AM

lohphat: When I moved to San Francisco my first treat was watching a city council meeting where a new homeowner was complaining about the rail noise from the trams in front of his new residence. You know, the tram line which has been there for a century.


If that was the 1990's, when the Boeing-Vertol streetcars were being replaced with Breda streetcars, yes there were many people that complained the new streetcars were much louder (true), heavier (true), and damaging their house foundations via shaking (undetermined). The Bredas were 10,000 pounds heavier than the Boeing-Vertols.
 
2013-07-30 01:18:43 AM

StopLurkListen: lohphat: When I moved to San Francisco my first treat was watching a city council meeting where a new homeowner was complaining about the rail noise from the trams in front of his new residence. You know, the tram line which has been there for a century.

If that was the 1990's, when the Boeing-Vertol streetcars were being replaced with Breda streetcars, yes there were many people that complained the new streetcars were much louder (true), heavier (true), and damaging their house foundations via shaking (undetermined). The Bredas were 10,000 pounds heavier than the Boeing-Vertols.


Agree but that wasn't the issue. He moved in after the Bredas were launched.

I hate that other world cities have modern trams (and control systems) which don't suck. I love how they're spinning the new 4th street tunnels and new stations while the ones we have are not maintained and look like 3rd-world train stations. Why should we believe them about the new stations when they can handle what they have now?
 
2013-07-30 01:40:15 AM
That is THE shipping channel for the Great Lakes commerce.

Stop your biatching and moaning. You bought that property up knowing full well what rolls by as fast as it can day in and day out in name of making as much profit before the winter freeze as possible.

Besides, I'll bet you're right out there on Gull Island taking part in that shameless and wanton drunken destruction of the environment with your power boat, every year like clockwork, aren't you Mr. Whiny Video Guy.
 
2013-07-30 01:40:57 AM
This happens just a very short distance away from his precious canal:
www.boatnerd.com
 
2013-07-30 04:25:07 AM

lohphat: dittybopper: styckx: crozzo: Blaming the "thousand footer", that's just stupid. What do you want them to do, portage the thing? You bought a house on the water next to a shipping lane - probably got a real good deal, didn't you? Threw your shoulder out patting yourself on the back.

Nailed it. He's of the same ilk of people who buy a house near an airport and biatch about how loud airplanes are..

Or the ones who buy a house near farmland, then complain about the smell of manure in the spring.

Or the ones who buy a house near a fish and game club and complain about the noise of the gunfire.

Or, or, well, you know.  There's no end to that kind of idiocy.

When I moved to San Francisco my first treat was watching a city council meeting where a new homeowner was complaining about the rail noise from the trams in front of his new residence. You know, the tram line which has been there for a century.


When I went to school in Boston near Fenway I remember the outrage of 30-somethings who bought homes in the Fens, and complained about the 30,000 people that would oddly congregate in the neighborhood 81 times in the spring and summer and wanted to be accomodated for their inconveniences from a ballpark that has been in the neighborhood since 1912.
 
2013-07-30 07:28:45 AM

ItachiNai: This happens just a very short distance away from his precious canal:
[www.boatnerd.com image 800x531]


Bayliners, Bass Trackers, and a party barge
Strung together like a floatin' trailer park...
 
2013-07-30 11:22:21 AM
Eh, give it a few years.
Soon he won't have to worry about tankers eroding his precious green lawn.  Soon he'll be upset because the water level fell so far that the St Clair River dried up, and their little canal along with it.
 
2013-07-30 09:17:27 PM

Lor M. Ipsum: dittybopper: So where is the damage?

Eh, over time, that will wash out the banks of the canal and the property owners will literally lose their land, bit by bit.   Also, I can't imagine the fish like it too much.

While the roots from those lush, green lawns help keep the land in place, I cringe to think of the fertilizer running off into the water.


If only someone warned about building houses on sand...
 
2013-07-30 09:56:10 PM
Oh the butthurt!

I'm guessing that guy is a major douchebag.
 
2013-07-30 10:36:53 PM

jmr61: Oh the butthurt!

I'm guessing that guy is a major douchebag.


I'm guessing Captain at best.  He's not Staff level douchebag material
 
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