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(KTAR Phoenix)   I hope you've enjoyed your free internet, because it's about to cost you   (ktar.com ) divider line
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17808 clicks; posted to Main » on 29 Jul 2013 at 12:04 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-07-29 11:55:08 AM  
4 votes:
This is not a repeat from every year since pay walls were invented.
2013-07-29 12:16:44 PM  
3 votes:
Paywalls for news is somewhat stupid if you really think about it.  Because for every news site that requires a paid subscription, there are 200+ that just riddle their pages with ads, thus making the news content "free."  Unless it is a very exclusive set of content, like investment info, or something else of major value, I simply do not see paywalls being a good or sustainable long term strategy.

I am happy to pay if it is something that I find to be worth my time/money.  Hell, I gladly pay for Netflix as well as Pandora (the ad free version).  I use VuDu or Xbox video once a week at least (about $5 a pop for a movie).  I do not mind spending money.

What I do care about is how easy it is for me to acquire the content I desire.  The second torrenting is easier than me trying to give you money...well...you lose

What really grinds my gears is being forced to watch a 15-45 second ad before I can watch a 8 second clip of a panda sneezing.  It makes no damn sense to me.
2013-07-29 12:12:10 PM  
3 votes:
lol yeah, paywalls are the future!  lol

Keep telling yourself that, corporate whores.

It's my fondest hope that when the capitalist rulers of this country realize there's no more money to be made in newspapers, in print or online, that they'll abandon the industry entirely and we can get back to having real journalism that has no concern for profit.
2013-07-29 01:51:46 AM  
3 votes:
Ah, yes, the paywall.  Something so complex that it's not like the NY Times one can be circumvented by opening a link in a private window in Firefox.
2013-07-29 12:46:34 PM  
2 votes:

SurfaceTension: ReapTheChaos: I have no problem paying for content as long as I get value out of it.

Same here. I'd pay 5x more per month than what I pay now for Netflix if I could stream their entire library. Until then, there are other ways to acquire that type of thing.

/yes, I know this has less to do with Netflix than with the studios, but it's a revenue stream they're missing out on.


This really blows my mind.  I cannot fathom why some of these major studio's do not make all of their old/obscure content just available at like 25 cents - 1 buck an episode.  There are so many old / obscure things I would love to be able to watch but they only exist on some dusty studio shelf.  If they would just digitize everything, Give you the ability to put X dollars in your "wallet" and have some arbitrary low fee to view stuff I could spend years just browsing odd stuff.  (I wonder If i repeat this in enough different ways someone will figure it out).  I bet it they could make billions of dollars doing this.
2013-07-29 12:14:20 PM  
2 votes:
Mourn the end of free news on the internet? Hell, I can pop open Google News and choose what site I want to read a story on, but since the majority of stories are repostings of AP or Reuters, it doesn't matter. Or like RodneyToady said, just open a paywall news link in a private window, or in Chrome an incognito window. I have to do this with any Boston Globe article linked in Fark, since the Globe allows you to read just three free articles a month.
2013-07-29 11:09:47 AM  
2 votes:
Case in point: Last month, the Washington Post implemented what Washington Post media CEO Katharine Bouchage Weymouth called a"metered subscription model,"  which leaves only two of the country's five largest newspapers - the Los Angeles Times and USA Today - free to online readers.

Because when I want to know what the next hot internet trend is I look to newspapers.
2013-07-29 04:03:32 PM  
1 vote:

WhatAPhunGuy: Click-bate article. That is all. Guess journalism majors gotta stay busy somehow.


First, it's "click-bait."

Second, it's using a Buzzfeed article (RTFA) as a source, so we know now why it was greenlit.

Fark has become a shameless cash-for-links source.
2013-07-29 01:54:24 PM  
1 vote:
Bah!  Back in the good old days we didn't have these new-fangled ipods and Napsters.  That was the *real* Internet, with UUENCODE on USENET and waiting for days until your text only wooden IBM-AT computer "booted" with a 5-1/2" floppy disk, then sent a telegraph message requesting your ASCII porn, if you remembered to peddle your bamboo bicycle fast enough, and Ginger had typed out her selfie, for the Professor to key code.
2013-07-29 12:54:44 PM  
1 vote:

SurfaceTension: ReapTheChaos: I have no problem paying for content as long as I get value out of it.

Same here. I'd pay 5x more per month than what I pay now for Netflix if I could stream their entire library. Until then, there are other ways to acquire that type of thing.

/yes, I know this has less to do with Netflix than with the studios, but it's a revenue stream they're missing out on.


I would pay for the service netflix has now if they would offer local storage of content with a phone home every 30 days (steam style). Well that and a linux client.

There is no reason why I can't download a whole season of something and watch it entirely offline. Or set up my computer to download stuff at night when nobody is one is awake and save the bandwidth for stuff that I want to do immediately during the day. No matter how you slice it streaming will always be worse than locally hosted content.
2013-07-29 12:47:53 PM  
1 vote:
 I don't think they have thought their cunning plan all the way through..Just because you have X number
of visitors per day, does not mean that those same visitors, or even  a percentage of them
"require" what your offering enough to pay for it. Even if they colluded with other companies to
pull the content they share (Which might violate the U.S. RICO laws), they still will discover that most
people could live without it.
2013-07-29 12:42:28 PM  
1 vote:

Blowmonkey: This is never going to work the way they think it will.  They will have to create content worth paying for first.  There are a million different places to get news from and even more work arounds to get past paywalls.

I agree the forced video ads suck.  Most of the time I just close them out of feeble protest.  If I really want to watch the video, I just shut the volume off on the ad and switch to another tab until it's done.


Adblock et al will let you skip directly to the video of interest, when configured properly.
2013-07-29 12:31:41 PM  
1 vote:

SurfaceTension: ReapTheChaos: I have no problem paying for content as long as I get value out of it.

Same here. I'd pay 5x more per month than what I pay now for Netflix if I could stream their entire library. Until then, there are other ways to acquire that type of thing.

/yes, I know this has less to do with Netflix than with the studios, but it's a revenue stream they're missing out on.


I love how you freeloaders keep moving the goalposts. Stop stealing
2013-07-29 12:30:14 PM  
1 vote:
That's odd, I haven't had free internet since the days of dial up and gopher.
2013-07-29 12:18:40 PM  
1 vote:
Oh no a paywall! How will I ever survive without reading the crap most of the papers on the list pump out? Although from what I've seen on Something Awful paywalls are a great way to fund your wine and ambien addiction if your name is Richard Kyanka.
2013-07-29 12:17:34 PM  
1 vote:

TheGreatGazoo: Infernalist: lol yeah, paywalls are the future!  lol

Keep telling yourself that, corporate whores.

It's my fondest hope that when the capitalist rulers of this country realize there's no more money to be made in newspapers, in print or online, that they'll abandon the industry entirely and we can get back to having real journalism that has no concern for profit.

When was that?


About the time that the media helped bring about the end of the Vietnam War with the never-ending shots of dead Americans coming home.
2013-07-29 12:15:55 PM  
1 vote:
If only there was a news aggregate site I could go and get links to free news sites with the news of the day....
2013-07-29 12:13:48 PM  
1 vote:
Yes because in no way would anyone ever pay for one time to access that content and then willingly aggregate it and share it amongst everyone else.

Dear god man, no one does that on the internet.
2013-07-29 12:11:50 PM  
1 vote:
AP and Reuters are free, and that covers 90% of the shiat in newspapers anyways.  And, as mentioned, USA Today is also freely available, as are all television news outlets(broadcast and cable).  On top of that, Yahoo and Google do a good job as aggregators, while social sites like Fark and Reddit fill in the holes.  So, yea, who cares.
2013-07-29 12:10:12 PM  
1 vote:

Three Crooked Squirrels: I tend to think this can only accelerate the dumbing down of America.


www.freecodesource.com
2013-07-29 12:08:11 PM  
1 vote:
This is not a repeat from every year since money and greed were invented.
2013-07-29 10:38:02 AM  
1 vote:
I tend to think this can only accelerate the dumbing down of America.
2013-07-29 10:31:05 AM  
1 vote:
media.tumblr.com
2013-07-29 07:34:14 AM  
1 vote:

RodneyToady: Ah, yes, the paywall.  Something so complex that it's not like the NY Times one can be circumvented by opening a link in a private window in Firefox.


Or simply enjoying the info via "modern journalism" that consists of paraphrasing another writer's article and including a link to the paywalled original.
 
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