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2013-07-29 01:08:40 PM

karmaceutical: As boss of the internet, I am making a special offer to all readers of Fark who give these articles the attention they deserve.  A a special promotion, your Internet will only cost $19.99.  This is a limited time offer.  You can pay me directly with paypal.  The first 5,000 to take advantage of this offer will also receive a complimentary Reddit account.  Act now, secure your access to the most valuable resource in history for this historical low price.


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2013-07-29 01:11:07 PM

Rabbid_Squirrel: Kazrath: SurfaceTension: ReapTheChaos: I have no problem paying for content as long as I get value out of it.

Same here. I'd pay 5x more per month than what I pay now for Netflix if I could stream their entire library. Until then, there are other ways to acquire that type of thing.

/yes, I know this has less to do with Netflix than with the studios, but it's a revenue stream they're missing out on.

This really blows my mind.  I cannot fathom why some of these major studio's do not make all of their old/obscure content just available at like 25 cents - 1 buck an episode.  There are so many old / obscure things I would love to be able to watch but they only exist on some dusty studio shelf.  If they would just digitize everything, Give you the ability to put X dollars in your "wallet" and have some arbitrary low fee to view stuff I could spend years just browsing odd stuff.  (I wonder If i repeat this in enough different ways someone will figure it out).  I bet it they could make billions of dollars doing this.

Intellectual property law is such a mess these days, they'd have to find out who still holds the rights to the music in the episodes and work out a separate licensing deal with each rightsholder.  Some of those rightsholders might be bands that broke up or people that died, making it even more complicated.  To release it as is would be a risk - and that's just not something a prudent shareholder wants their company doing, harrumph harrumph.


While I have no doubt that you are 100% correct with your explanation, it simply blows my mind that studios have years, and years worth of content that they would rather sit on a shelf to collect dust that to find a way to turn a profit on their already produced content.  Add to that that the entertainment industry still to this day sees streaming/digital content as a loss of a physical sale, rather than almost 100% pure profit.  I like to point to Amazon Books - Paperback of a book $7.98, Kindle version $9.99.  Even with prime, someone is footing the bill in shipping the book.

I am really hoping that there will be some massive change in both IP and patent law that ultimately is aimed at sucking more money out of consumers while allowing consumers to acquire the content they crave.

I fully recognize that to a large degree we are still in an infancy stage when it comes to navigating how best to distribute content to consumers.  I do see where studios are weary and cautious when it comes to offering "digital everything," but they have to start somewhere...and like I said above, the second it is more difficult for me to give you money legitimately, torrenting becomes very, very attractive.
 
2013-07-29 01:14:11 PM
There are better ways to circumvent paywalls than lightning quick mouse clicks and web browser tricks.

1. Download AdBlock addon
2. Download AdBlock Element Hiding Helper
3. Right click anywhere on the paywall, click Inspect Element
4. At the bottom right, click Hide With ABP
5. Most Elements are compound, so repeat with any remaining elements until the wall is gone.

/works for any other obnoxious elements, also
 
2013-07-29 01:16:54 PM

odinsposse: Case in point: Last month, the Washington Post implemented what Washington Post media CEO Katharine Bouchage Weymouth called a"metered subscription model,"  which leaves only two of the country's five largest newspapers - the Los Angeles Times and USA Today - free to online readers.

Because when I want to know what the next hot internet trend is I look to newspapers.


This. I actually had to read TFA twice to convince myself that the author was seriously saying what he seems to be saying. This guy is looking at the final failure of the Old Media, and thinks he hears the future of the Internet in it's death rattles.
He's nuts.
 
2013-07-29 01:23:54 PM
Yes, surely in this era where free to play games are becoming even more popular and every network is releasing their own streaming content site, the exact opposite is going to happen very soon!
 
2013-07-29 01:24:46 PM
People still pay for news?
 
2013-07-29 01:27:33 PM
Headline: "Is the era of free Internet content coming to a close?"

Last paragraph, emphasis added: "While we're nowhere near the end of the 'free' Internet," Warzel concluded, "the web's untamed corners undoubtedly feel smaller."

Move along, nothing to see here.
 
2013-07-29 01:31:03 PM

FuzedBox: There are better ways to circumvent paywalls than lightning quick mouse clicks and web browser tricks.

1. Download AdBlock addon
2. Download AdBlock Element Hiding Helper
3. Right click anywhere on the paywall, click Inspect Element
4. At the bottom right, click Hide With ABP
5. Most Elements are compound, so repeat with any remaining elements until the wall is gone.

/works for any other obnoxious elements, also


1. Download NoScript
2. There is no 2
 
2013-07-29 01:36:01 PM

boyvoyeur: So what. I'll just get my news from Fark. Duh!


Soon, TotalFark will be the only Fark.

/they gotta feed the squirrel somehow
 
2013-07-29 01:37:36 PM
Your name is your "intellectual property", bestowed upon you by your parents. Treat it as such. Hit any and every business that uses your IP with a demand for royalties for using your IP in commerce.
 
2013-07-29 01:43:12 PM

TheGreatGazoo: Infernalist: lol yeah, paywalls are the future!  lol

Keep telling yourself that, corporate whores.

It's my fondest hope that when the capitalist rulers of this country realize there's no more money to be made in newspapers, in print or online, that they'll abandon the industry entirely and we can get back to having real journalism that has no concern for profit.

When was that?


Back when people lived in villages where everyone knew everyone and the prefered method of news distribution was a bunch of old ladies drinking tea while gossiping.
 
2013-07-29 01:44:56 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I tend to think this can only accelerate the dumbing down of America.


Lower than Detroit math scores.
 
2013-07-29 01:52:06 PM
Get ready

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-29 01:54:24 PM
Bah!  Back in the good old days we didn't have these new-fangled ipods and Napsters.  That was the *real* Internet, with UUENCODE on USENET and waiting for days until your text only wooden IBM-AT computer "booted" with a 5-1/2" floppy disk, then sent a telegraph message requesting your ASCII porn, if you remembered to peddle your bamboo bicycle fast enough, and Ginger had typed out her selfie, for the Professor to key code.
 
2013-07-29 01:55:58 PM

kidsizedcoffin: That's odd, I haven't had free internet since the days of dial up and gopher.


Didn't you know? The internet is content, not transmission method.
 
2013-07-29 01:56:53 PM
What's next? News portals charging $5 per month just to look at all of their material?
 
2013-07-29 02:10:43 PM

Saners: Yes, surely in this era where free to play games are becoming even more popular and every network is releasing their own streaming content site, the exact opposite is going to happen very soon!


And quit calling me Shirley!
 
Euk
2013-07-29 02:18:16 PM
The only thing that would have made this article better would be if the author also tried to sell us some gold because the US economy was about to implode and the only way to save ourselves is to have bags of gold and guns to defend our brown people proof shelters.
 
2013-07-29 02:35:39 PM

Euk: The only thing that would have made this article better would be if the author also tried to sell us some gold because the US economy was about to implode and the only way to save ourselves is to have bags of gold and guns to defend our brown people proof shelters.


www.poynter.org
 
2013-07-29 02:35:39 PM
Click-bate article. That is all. Guess journalism majors gotta stay busy somehow.
 
2013-07-29 03:20:37 PM
While not everyone believes that the future of information on the Internet is behind paywalls, writers such as Buzzfeed's Charlie Warzel think the time has come to eulogize the free-roam Internet of yesteryear.

Warzel: 12 reasons it's time to eulogize the free-roam Internet of yesteryear.
 
2013-07-29 03:25:04 PM

ReapTheChaos: I have no problem paying for content as long as I get value out of it. What I hate is all the damn annoying ads on every page you open or having to watch a 30 second commercial to view a 90 second video clip.


Easy solution:  Look for a different link.  It works for me 90% of the time.  The times it doesn't, I decide I didn't need to see that video anyway.
 
2013-07-29 03:31:33 PM

Elegy: Hey, anyone remember the halcyon days when the Internet wasn't choked with popups, flashing sidebar advertisements, autoplay video advertisements, and "featured content?"

Man, I miss those days.


how to make the internet not suck (as much)
 
2013-07-29 03:38:22 PM

Endive Wombat: Blowmonkey: This is never going to work the way they think it will.  They will have to create content worth paying for first.  There are a million different places to get news from and even more work arounds to get past paywalls.

I agree the forced video ads suck.  Most of the time I just close them out of feeble protest.  If I really want to watch the video, I just shut the volume off on the ad and switch to another tab until it's done.

Just wait till they implement a script that can tell if you are watching said tab or not, then pauses the ad video if you are not watching it.


They have things that do that.  It's nothing new.  Until they start requiring software that tracks where your eyes are looking (which is possible), it won't solve the problem of a 2nd monitor or even just staring at the TV or actual print media or even your navel while the ad is playing.
 
2013-07-29 03:43:38 PM

HaywoodJablonski: SurfaceTension: ReapTheChaos: I have no problem paying for content as long as I get value out of it.

Same here. I'd pay 5x more per month than what I pay now for Netflix if I could stream their entire library. Until then, there are other ways to acquire that type of thing.

/yes, I know this has less to do with Netflix than with the studios, but it's a revenue stream they're missing out on.

I love how you freeloaders keep moving the goalposts. Stop stealing


Not really.  I hate how I might not finish a film  on netflix, and when I return to watch it a week later, it has disappeared.... or how my Spotify playlists keep getting mungled as tracks disappear as an artist pulls the track (but not the entire library).   I just want on-demand convenience--- and I do pay for it.  I hate geoblocking as well--- as an American living abroad.  That is what VPNs are for.
 
2013-07-29 03:52:01 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I tend to think this can only accelerate the dumbing down of America.


I would agree, but "news" long ago stopped being informative.  So it's really no loss.
 
2013-07-29 04:03:32 PM

WhatAPhunGuy: Click-bate article. That is all. Guess journalism majors gotta stay busy somehow.


First, it's "click-bait."

Second, it's using a Buzzfeed article (RTFA) as a source, so we know now why it was greenlit.

Fark has become a shameless cash-for-links source.
 
2013-07-29 04:20:47 PM

Disgruntled Goat: WhatAPhunGuy: Click-bate article. That is all. Guess journalism majors gotta stay busy somehow.

First, it's "click-bait."

Second, it's using a Buzzfeed article (RTFA) as a source, so we know now why it was greenlit.

Fark has become a shameless cash-for-links source.


I think this may be true. I'm not having as much fun wasting time at work as I used to.
 
2013-07-29 04:37:59 PM

bopis: Disgruntled Goat: WhatAPhunGuy: Click-bate article. That is all. Guess journalism majors gotta stay busy somehow.

First, it's "click-bait."

Second, it's using a Buzzfeed article (RTFA) as a source, so we know now why it was greenlit.

Fark has become a shameless cash-for-links source.

I think this may be true. I'm not having as much fun wasting time at work as I used to.


I don't mind all that much that Fark makes money off of this stuff. The only time it seems to whine at me about adblock is when I'm not logged-in as TF. I got no problem with that, either.

I'm just concerned at how much of a platform they appear to give to outright racists. I don't mean "racists" as code for "Republicans" or "conservatives" - I mean the real-deal, indistinguishable from Stormfront guys. That's the single biggest thing that might drive me from Fark.
 
2013-07-29 05:08:20 PM

bopis: Disgruntled Goat: WhatAPhunGuy: Click-bate article. That is all. Guess journalism majors gotta stay busy somehow.

First, it's "click-bait."

Second, it's using a Buzzfeed article (RTFA) as a source, so we know now why it was greenlit.

Fark has become a shameless cash-for-links source.

I think this may be true. I'm not having as much fun wasting time at work as I used to.


Keep adblock,noscript on and never pay for tf.
 
2013-07-29 05:47:22 PM
a1.s6img.com

like a banana
 
2013-07-29 07:04:29 PM
That's okay... we'll just make more Wikipedias to drive the greedy out of business. Wikinews, for example, is just waiting for its chance to be a go-to news source, and the more newspapers that try to nickel'n'dime things, the more they seal their own fate.

/yes, it's as simple as that.
 
2013-07-29 07:10:10 PM
I remember when this was called "The Death of the Internet"
 
2013-07-29 07:36:01 PM
Newspapers still think they are relevant?  LOL

Maybe if you still hired journalists instead of World Weekly News rejects.
 
2013-07-29 07:37:08 PM

ReapTheChaos: I have no problem paying for content as long as I get value out of it. What I hate is all the damn annoying ads on every page you open or having to watch a 30 second commercial to view a 90 second video clip.


Especially when the ad precedes a movie trailer, which is really just an advertisement.
 
2013-07-30 04:33:31 AM
Kazrath: ...

This really blows my mind.  I cannot fathom why some of these major studio's do not make all of their old/obscure content just available at like 25 cents - 1 buck an episode.  There are so many old / obscure things I would love to be able to watch but they only exist on some dusty studio shelf.  If they would just digitize everything, Give you the ability to put X dollars in your "wallet" and have some arbitrary low fee to view stuff I could spend years just browsing odd stuff.  (I wonder If i repeat this in enough different ways someone will figure it out).  I bet it they could make billions of dollars doing this.


Because studios think EVERYTHING they have ever produced in the history of mankind is "premium" content. They want to cash in for yesterday's content at today's pricing. Of course yesterday's content was made under a different structure and costs millions less to produce, but never mind that.

Netflix was making a killing when they were getting their content for cheap (read as more realistic pricing) because the studios hadn't caught on yet as to how they could exploit everyone. When Netflix deals started to come up for renewal, the studios renegotiated those contracts so Netflix had to  pay significantly more to stream the same content, or relinquish the rights due to exorbitant price gouging for the right to stream "content" (Starz comes to mind).

I'm not opposed to paying for content, within reason. Not gonna pay $5.99 for "Ishtar" or "Supergirl" under any circumstance. I am opposed to paying for content that requires watching adverts. That is why I dumped Hulu Plus.  I thought cable TV was sold under the premise cable didn't have to show commercials, but there is no difference between cable and terrestrial TV. Satellite radio also doesn't need to air commercials, and they are becoming just as bad as television. Unfortunately, in their quest to maximize their revenue streams, we allow them to get away with airing commercials, so they think nothing about adding more crap.
 
2013-07-30 10:52:39 AM

Napheus: Kazrath: ...

This really blows my mind.  I cannot fathom why some of these major studio's do not make all of their old/obscure content just available at like 25 cents - 1 buck an episode.  There are so many old / obscure things I would love to be able to watch but they only exist on some dusty studio shelf.  If they would just digitize everything, Give you the ability to put X dollars in your "wallet" and have some arbitrary low fee to view stuff I could spend years just browsing odd stuff.  (I wonder If i repeat this in enough different ways someone will figure it out).  I bet it they could make billions of dollars doing this.

Because studios think EVERYTHING they have ever produced in the history of mankind is "premium" content. They want to cash in for yesterday's content at today's pricing. Of course yesterday's content was made under a different structure and costs millions less to produce, but never mind that.

Netflix was making a killing when they were getting their content for cheap (read as more realistic pricing) because the studios hadn't caught on yet as to how they could exploit everyone. When Netflix deals started to come up for renewal, the studios renegotiated those contracts so Netflix had to  pay significantly more to stream the same content, or relinquish the rights due to exorbitant price gouging for the right to stream "content" (Starz comes to mind).

I'm not opposed to paying for content, within reason. Not gonna pay $5.99 for "Ishtar" or "Supergirl" under any circumstance. I am opposed to paying for content that requires watching adverts. That is why I dumped Hulu Plus.  I thought cable TV was sold under the premise cable didn't have to show commercials, but there is no difference between cable and terrestrial TV. Satellite radio also doesn't need to air commercials, and they are becoming just as bad as television. Unfortunately, in their quest to maximize their revenue streams, we allow them to get away with airing commercials, so they th ...


It's always interesting to see what's simply not available for streaming or purchase, either songs or movies.
 
2013-07-30 01:10:04 PM

Napheus: I'm not opposed to paying for content, within reason. Not gonna pay $5.99 for "Ishtar" or "Supergirl" under any circumstance. I am opposed to paying for content that requires watching adverts. That is why I dumped Hulu Plus.  I thought cable TV was sold under the premise cable didn't have to show commercials, but there is no difference between cable and terrestrial TV. Satellite radio also doesn't need to air commercials, and they are becoming just as bad as television. Unfortunately, in their quest to maximize their revenue streams, we allow them to get away with airing commercials, so they think nothing about adding more crap.


I refuse to pay or even watch for free anything with ads in it.  Seriously, NO ADS.  I refuse to listen to the radio except the ad free stations (they exist), I refuse to watch any sort of broadcast TV (satelite, cable, etc).  I will not watch commercial DVDs that don't allow skipping, although that particular issue was easy to solve by using VLC player.  I rarely go to movie theaters.  (my system is better than theirs anyway)

fark modern advertising bullshiat.  They are literally BRAIN WASHING the entire country, and frankly, I think it's awfully pathetic that the majority (even here on fark) are not only falling for it, they are actually asking for more.
 
2013-07-30 10:27:10 PM
Free?!?!? This s*** costs me at least $100 a month!!
 
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