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(SFGate)   You look like you're curious about what the inmates of Alcatraz were eating the week of Sep 2nd, 1946. By an amazing coincidence, I happen to have their menu   (insidescoopsf.sfgate.com) divider line 83
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2013-07-29 12:06:55 AM
They had it pretty good except the whole hard prison thing
 
2013-07-29 12:33:58 AM
Fellow inmates' caulk conspicuously absent.
 
2013-07-29 12:34:03 AM
So now I'm hungry.
 
2013-07-29 12:34:06 AM
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"Oleo"
 
2013-07-29 12:36:54 AM
That looks pretty good.  I wonder if, in reality, it looked and tasted like dog food.
 
2013-07-29 12:40:22 AM
Everything from the past is better.
 
2013-07-29 12:41:20 AM
Does anyone here still use "dinner" to mean lunch?  When did the vernacular change?  Even my grandpa called the mid day meal "lunch", although the evening meal was still "supper".
 
2013-07-29 12:41:33 AM
I do not recommend the tossed salad.
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2013-07-29 12:42:23 AM
Wow lot better then nutraloaf
 
2013-07-29 12:42:31 AM
What's with the tomato sauce and tomato catsup with things that don't need either?
 
2013-07-29 12:42:35 AM
1946 yo.
 
2013-07-29 12:42:58 AM
 
2013-07-29 12:43:53 AM
I suspect the guards ate the same thing at meal times. I think there's an adage from military campaigns at work here: If the food's good the troops won't mind some hardships.
 
2013-07-29 12:45:27 AM
Too bad we can't feed kids in school as well.
 
2013-07-29 12:47:08 AM

Molavian: Too bad we can't feed kids in school as well.

Agreed.
 
2013-07-29 12:49:28 AM
What the hell is 'puree mongole'?
 
2013-07-29 12:50:19 AM
During the guided tour they tell you that the food was above average for prison. Why spark a riot over bad food?
 
2013-07-29 12:52:13 AM
I recall reading years ago that the prisoners on Alcatraz were deliberately overfed and under-exercised to reduce their chances of making a successful escape by swimming to the mainland. That menu certainly looked like it would accomplish that goal. The temperature inside the prison was also kept high to make them more sensitive to the cold water.
 
2013-07-29 12:52:47 AM

EmmaLou: That looks pretty good.  I wonder if, in reality, it looked and tasted like dog food.


Yeah, was the food really what was on the menu or were they just having a laugh at the inmates by calling it great stuff and serving swill.
 
2013-07-29 12:52:48 AM

ertznay: What the hell is 'puree mongole'?


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2013-07-29 12:52:58 AM

ertznay: What the hell is 'puree mongole'?


I think back then they just threw a random Chinese prisoner into a giant blender once a week.
 
2013-07-29 12:53:27 AM

ertznay: What the hell is 'puree mongole'?


Split pea tomato soup
 
2013-07-29 12:55:23 AM
Is subby the MS Word paperclip?
 
2013-07-29 12:56:29 AM

ertznay: What the hell is 'puree mongole'?


Mongol
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blender
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...I'll let you figure out the rest, but apparently you serve it with parsley on top.

OK, here

www.mycitycuisine.org
 
2013-07-29 12:58:12 AM
The food was pretty good in the Rock because it did keep inmates quieter. But Alcatraz also had good food (you'll notice a lot of starches on that menu) to keep the inmates well fed and, well, pudgy, slower and not as athletic and so not as inclined to do things like scale walls or consider a 1.5 mile swim to escape. They also had hot showers so no inmate would get innured to frigid water -- like the frigid water in SF bay which an escapee would have to swim in to escape.

/all male inmates, all hard cases and all taking hot showers
//good thing sodomy was illegal
 
2013-07-29 12:58:58 AM
I don't even eat that good.

/who do I have to murder to get some decent food around here?
//amirite
 
2013-07-29 01:01:38 AM
As per Wiki

I seriously doubt they served gourmet food, considering that the place's sole purpose was to break your will, and subtly torture you into submission.
You weren't even allowed to talk.
Ever, unless a guard asked you something.

Many of the inmates were there for murdering jail guards, and fellow inmates while already in prison, so I don't think their current jailers went out shopping, and looking for the best meats, and produce so as to honor those that would gleefully murder them given the chance.
 
2013-07-29 01:01:48 AM

ThatDarkFellow: I don't even eat that good.

/who do I have to murder to get some decent food around here?
//amirite


Tax evasion would get you there too.
 
2013-07-29 01:04:23 AM

Chabash: ThatDarkFellow: I don't even eat that good.

/who do I have to murder to get some decent food around here?
//amirite

Tax evasion would get you there too.


Tax evasion? Why don't I just write 'Sodomize Me' on my back?
 
2013-07-29 01:05:57 AM
Why in hell did Alcatraz have a 'menu'? What is this? Kiddie summer camp?
 
2013-07-29 01:07:58 AM
"WHY DON'T YOU CUT THEM SOME FRIGGIN' SLACK!!"
 
2013-07-29 01:08:22 AM

Omnis_evil_twin: Does anyone here still use "dinner" to mean lunch?  When did the vernacular change?  Even my grandpa called the mid day meal "lunch", although the evening meal was still "supper".


A lot of the farming families around here hold onto the archaic usage.  It took me a while to get used to that,
 
2013-07-29 01:09:01 AM
"Wednesday night is taco night at Rikers Island"
 
2013-07-29 01:11:51 AM
They sound a lot like the Canadian Army ration packs I'd take to go camping. (Back when you could still get them legally at Army Surplus places)
 
2013-07-29 01:14:58 AM
Came for

BRRRRAAAAAAIIIIINNNNNZZZZZ!!!!!!

leaving hungry.....
 
2013-07-29 01:15:34 AM

JerkyMeat: Everything from the past is better.


this. we are getting farked. hell, even i dont eat that well. 3 meals a day? in what fantasy world?
 
2013-07-29 01:16:48 AM

Omnis_evil_twin: Does anyone here still use "dinner" to mean lunch?  When did the vernacular change?  Even my grandpa called the mid day meal "lunch", although the evening meal was still "supper".


Around here the "breakfast - dinner - supper" thing is still pretty common - I'd say it's at least 50/50. Of course, this IS the land that time forgot, and home of the Suqidbillies.
 
2013-07-29 01:18:17 AM

Clemkadidlefark: Why in hell did Alcatraz have a 'menu'? What is this? Kiddie summer camp?


Seriously, a menu? Were they afraid of losing customers?

Most people forget that the entire staff of guards, administrators etc, and their families lived on the island full time, so more than likely, that is the menu was for.

One would have to be pretty damned gullible to think that those menus were for the prisoners.
 
2013-07-29 01:20:28 AM
that is WHO the menu was for.
 
2013-07-29 01:24:18 AM

JasonOfOrillia: So now I'm hungry.


Me too.

For bread and coffee... bread and coffee...  bread and coffee...  bread and coffee...   bread and coffee...
 
2013-07-29 01:26:08 AM

DarthFrog: I recall reading years ago that the prisoners on Alcatraz were deliberately overfed and under-exercised to reduce their chances of making a successful escape by swimming to the mainland. That menu certainly looked like it would accomplish that goal. The temperature inside the prison was also kept high to make them more sensitive to the cold water.


Sounds to me like they were making them bouyant and well-insulated like a harbour seal.
 
2013-07-29 01:26:50 AM
*buoyant
 
2013-07-29 01:28:16 AM

Gough: Omnis_evil_twin: Does anyone here still use "dinner" to mean lunch?  When did the vernacular change?  Even my grandpa called the mid day meal "lunch", although the evening meal was still "supper".

A lot of the farming families around here hold onto the archaic usage.  It took me a while to get used to that,


My mother did (b. 1943, d. 1995), at least on Sundays, and oddly my MIL still does even though I'd never seriously call their house hold a farming one, pseudo at best. I think my mom was holding out from visiting her grandparents on their farm. I've never felt like bothering to bring it up with my MIL...
 
2013-07-29 01:34:11 AM
but then they changed chefs in '47 and it all went downhill from there
 
2013-07-29 01:46:06 AM

Gough: Omnis_evil_twin: Does anyone here still use "dinner" to mean lunch?  When did the vernacular change?  Even my grandpa called the mid day meal "lunch", although the evening meal was still "supper".

A lot of the farming families around here hold onto the archaic usage.  It took me a while to get used to that,


Lunch can be dinner if its the main meal of the day.
 
2013-07-29 01:48:36 AM

ertznay: What the hell is 'puree mongole'?


A split pea and tomato soup, according to wikipedia.
 
2013-07-29 01:51:28 AM
damn, prisoners ate quite well.  I would have just handed them all fishing poles and told them they eat what they catch, but what they catch will be prepared in the kitchen.
 
2013-07-29 02:00:00 AM

Omnis_evil_twin: Does anyone here still use "dinner" to mean lunch?  When did the vernacular change?  Even my grandpa called the mid day meal "lunch", although the evening meal was still "supper".


It comes from farmers. Farmers eat their big dinner at noon, so they could keep on working until the end of the day without starving, then came home to a light supper. As farmers became less common (and farming became more mechanized and less labor-intensive) people started to pack a lunch, and come home to dinner after work.

Dinner-as-lunch was still common here in the 80's, but I live in the foothills of the Appalachias where subsistence farming hung on longer, and became even harder labor after the chestnuts died out.
 
2013-07-29 02:10:08 AM

Great Janitor: damn, prisoners ate quite well.  I would have just handed them all fishing poles and told them they eat what they catch, but what they catch will be prepared in the kitchen.


That wasn't a prisoners menu.
Yeesh.
 
2013-07-29 02:16:29 AM
bacon jambalaya has my interest.
 
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