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(CBS Atlanta)   Army unveils new unisex uniform for all soldiers. Drab drab drab   (atlanta.cbslocal.com) divider line 94
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2013-07-28 09:37:34 PM  
Who keeps wasting money approving this stupid crap?
The military already has a zillion different uniforms.
 
2013-07-28 09:39:45 PM  
They're keeping the velcro?

A decision made by Top Men who have never spent a day in the field in their f*cking life.
 
2013-07-28 10:15:52 PM  
They made it unisex by specifically putting in extra room for T and A, and removing room in the crotch? I'm not sure if that's sexist, but it's definitely not unisex. Unisex is what they already had. Have they gotten rid of dress uniform skirts for servicewomen yet? Because that would be a step towards equality.
 
2013-07-28 10:21:32 PM  

HotWingAgenda: They made it unisex by specifically putting in extra room for T and A, and removing room in the crotch? I'm not sure if that's sexist, but it's definitely not unisex. Unisex is what they already had. Have they gotten rid of dress uniform skirts for servicewomen yet? Because that would be a step towards equality.


 I've been thinking this all morning.  This uniform is the exact OPPOSITE of the current unisex uniform.  Somebody used the wrong word and other news sights are just copy/pasting the article.
 
2013-07-29 12:30:04 AM  
More like uniSEXY.  Mrrreow.
 
2013-07-29 12:44:02 AM  
God, the comments at the bottom are derpy.
 
2013-07-29 01:07:56 AM  
FTFA: The March debut of the Combat Uniform-Alternate is the first in a series of moves the Army hopes to make in the next three years to help female soldiers feel like more professional members, officials said.

Horsesh*it! I was an officer in the Army 30 years ago. The BDUs (Battle Dress Uniform) of the day worked just fine for men and women. Never once did I hear a female soldier complain that she didn't feel like a professional soldier because of their uniforms.
 
2013-07-29 02:04:23 AM  

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: The March debut of the Combat Uniform-Alternate is the first in a series of moves the Army hopes to make in the next three years to help female soldiers feel like more professional members, officials said.

Horsesh*it! I was an officer in the Army 30 years ago. The BDUs (Battle Dress Uniform) of the day worked just fine for men and women. Never once did I hear a female soldier complain that she didn't feel like a professional soldier because of their uniforms.


I was enlisted in the Army 30 years ago. I agree with your statement completely. We had different Class A and Class B uniforms, but we all wore the same BDUs and I never heard anything at all about there being a problem with them.
 
2013-07-29 02:05:07 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: God, the comments at the bottom are derpy.


I've never been to Atlanta. Are those posts considered reasoned discourse there?
 
2013-07-29 02:54:02 AM  

Notabunny: ecmoRandomNumbers: God, the comments at the bottom are derpy.

I've never been to Atlanta. Are those posts considered reasoned discourse there?


Georgia sucks, that is all.
 
2013-07-29 04:00:27 AM  
So, gheys can now join the military openly and now they make the uniforms more drab.

I don't understand the military.
 
2013-07-29 04:02:56 AM  
TFA says there are just sixteen sizes.  From some of the colossal booties I've seen in uniform, they're gonna need more sizes.
 
2013-07-29 04:04:33 AM  
Thank Dog I got out when I did...shiat is retarded...
 
2013-07-29 04:06:24 AM  

NewportBarGuy: They're keeping the velcro?

A decision made by Top Men who have never spent a day in the field in their f*cking life.


Not so, the top is almost ALL infantry, they spent a few weeks in the field.  As for the 101st fielding female infantry or engineers or artillery by 2016 well...BWAHAHA...wheeze....BWAHAHAHAHAHA...gasp...AAAAAHHHAAAHAAAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHA.
 
2013-07-29 04:10:27 AM  
Where's Hugo Boss when you need them to design some kick ass uniforms?
 
2013-07-29 04:16:46 AM  

HotWingAgenda: They made it unisex by specifically putting in extra room for T and A, and removing room in the crotch? I'm not sure if that's sexist, but it's definitely not unisex. Unisex is what they already had. Have they gotten rid of dress uniform skirts for servicewomen yet?

Made uniform skirts optional for men? Because that would be a step towards equality.

If it was good enough for the Romans...
 
2013-07-29 04:18:27 AM  

chiett: Who keeps wasting money approving this stupid crap?
The military already has a zillion different uniforms.


Probably the Congresscritters who represent the districts in which the uniforms are made.
 
2013-07-29 04:19:55 AM  
There will have to be a wing added to every single VA hospital and clinic just to deal with pelvic fractures.  From the weight carried, not the rape.  They'll need another wing for that.  And several more prisons for the other half of the rape/lied about rape.

rape
 
2013-07-29 04:20:59 AM  

Archie Goodwin: HotWingAgenda: They made it unisex by specifically putting in extra room for T and A, and removing room in the crotch? I'm not sure if that's sexist, but it's definitely not unisex. Unisex is what they already had. Have they gotten rid of dress uniform skirts for servicewomen yet? Made uniform skirts optional for men? Because that would be a step towards equality.

If it was good enough for the Romans...


Boy farking was good enough for the Romans.
 
2013-07-29 04:35:09 AM  

CPT Ethanolic: HotWingAgenda: They made it unisex by specifically putting in extra room for T and A, and removing room in the crotch? I'm not sure if that's sexist, but it's definitely not unisex. Unisex is what they already had. Have they gotten rid of dress uniform skirts for servicewomen yet? Because that would be a step towards equality.

 I've been thinking this all morning.  This uniform is the exact OPPOSITE of the current unisex uniform.  Somebody used the wrong word and other news sights are just copy/pasting the article.


It's a new alternative to the existing model, primarily designed to accommodate the female physique, but if you're a guy with a spacious seat, you can get the fat-ass pants, therefore "unisex".
Take it from the horse's mouth:
The new uniform, several years in the making, was initially considered as being the first female-only uniform, but instead is now approved for both sexes and is being called ACU-A for Army Combat Uniform-Alternate.

"We started issuing them slowly in April, and we've since been issuing them more frequently as our fitters get more comfortable placing Soldiers in them," said Trevor Whitworth, Central Initial Issue Point project manager, where new Soldiers are first issued their uniforms.

"They were initially designed for female Soldiers, but we were told if we find male Soldiers that these would fit better than the ACUs then we can issue it to them as well," Whitworth said. "It's more about the fit and the body type."




Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: The March debut of the Combat Uniform-Alternate is the first in a series of moves the Army hopes to make in the next three years to help female soldiers feel like more professional members, officials said.

Horsesh*it! I was an officer in the Army 30 years ago. The BDUs (Battle Dress Uniform) of the day worked just fine for men and women. Never once did I hear a female soldier complain that she didn't feel like a professional soldier because of their uniforms.


How many women in battle dress uniform were there in the army 30 years ago, and would complaining about something like that have been welcomed?
 
2013-07-29 04:37:11 AM  

jimmyego: Where's Hugo Boss when you need them to design some kick ass uniforms?


Hey, I wanted to make that godwin!
 
2013-07-29 04:41:18 AM  
Sorry, that quote before was supposed to have a link.
Here it is: http://www.army.mil/article/106924/
 
2013-07-29 04:42:46 AM  
Not really "unisex" if it was specially designed so that only women and femininely-proportioned men wear it, right? Pretty much every fatigue uniform I've seen in my 24+ years in the Army (and counting) is truly "unisex," since all sexes wear them.

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Besides, Farkers, we can do better than this and start showing some scantily-clad women in camouflage. I am disappoint.

/I'd post said scantiness, but *those* kinds of graphics are blocked here in Afghanistan
//Please?
 
2013-07-29 04:45:20 AM  
So...Females want to be treated like male soldiers and afforded the same opportunities as them, but could you...um...could you just hem this spot, make this sleeve longer, make more room in the chest, and let out the area in the hips? You know, so that it's fair for women.
 
2013-07-29 04:45:36 AM  
DRABULOUS
 
2013-07-29 04:46:26 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: So, gheys can now join the military openly and now they make the uniforms more drab.

I don't understand the military.


It's the law of unintended consequences... We did this to ourselves!  May the future generations forgive us...
 
2013-07-29 04:51:34 AM  

sixstringsent: So...Females want to be treated like male soldiers and afforded the same opportunities as them, but could you...um...could you just hem this spot, make this sleeve longer, make more room in the chest, and let out the area in the hips? You know, so that it's fair for women.


Making sure every soldier has a uniform that fits sounds like equality to me.
 
2013-07-29 04:52:13 AM  
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I was hoping for this...
 
2013-07-29 04:52:46 AM  

sixstringsent: So...Females want to be treated like male soldiers and afforded the same opportunities as them, but could you...um...could you just hem this spot, make this sleeve longer, make more room in the chest, and let out the area in the hips? You know, so that it's fair for women.


It's not about fairness, just practicallity and pragmatism. Uniforms are supposed to be functional, first and foremost. Having the best possible fit is part of that.
 
2013-07-29 04:52:56 AM  
How about one unified PT standard for men and women, then worry about opening all MOS's to both genders. IF you can find the handful of females that really can perform at the same level as males, I'd bet you wouldn't need a separate uniform. I've been in an MP unit for almost 8 years and I'm on my third deployment right now. MP's have been coed since before I got in, so I've dealt with females the whole time. More than 90% of them are useless for anything outside admin work. Add in them getting knocked up on purpose to avoid deploying, fake sexual harassment claims to get promoted or as revenge against people who piss them off, getting more promotion points for "maxing out" their severely lowered PT test, and not being physically capable of doing basic soldier tasks like mounting a M2 .50cal on a turret, carrying full ammo cans out to LP/OPs, or even opening the door on a rolled over vehicle.

Solve that shiat, then talk about new uniforms

\Fix the 70 different camo patterns too
 
2013-07-29 04:55:39 AM  
There are some whiny biatches in here, and I'm not talking about women.
 
2013-07-29 04:55:57 AM  
Plastic fema coffin.jpg
 
2013-07-29 04:55:58 AM  

Dansker: sixstringsent: So...Females want to be treated like male soldiers and afforded the same opportunities as them, but could you...um...could you just hem this spot, make this sleeve longer, make more room in the chest, and let out the area in the hips? You know, so that it's fair for women.

It's not about fairness, just practicallity and pragmatism. Uniforms are supposed to be functional, first and foremost. Having the best possible fit is part of that.


If we're gonna be pragmatic, let's make sure the soldiers are functional first. We can start by holding both genders to the same physical standards.
 
2013-07-29 05:04:24 AM  

Great Janitor: [encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 259x194]
I was hoping for this...


Can I get the drugs that go along with it?
 
2013-07-29 05:06:01 AM  
"Are we still funded by the Hallmark Channel?"
SHUT YOUR GODFORS*  clip
 
2013-07-29 05:08:14 AM  

thisisarepeat: Archie Goodwin: HotWingAgenda: They made it unisex by specifically putting in extra room for T and A, and removing room in the crotch? I'm not sure if that's sexist, but it's definitely not unisex. Unisex is what they already had. Have they gotten rid of dress uniform skirts for servicewomen yet? Made uniform skirts optional for men? Because that would be a step towards equality.

If it was good enough for the Romans...

Boy farking was good enough for the Romans.


So was a Republic state.
 
2013-07-29 05:11:17 AM  

Great Janitor: [encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 259x194]
I was hoping for this...


Also, this

i.stack.imgur.com
 
2013-07-29 05:11:44 AM  

taurusowner: Dansker: sixstringsent: So...Females want to be treated like male soldiers and afforded the same opportunities as them, but could you...um...could you just hem this spot, make this sleeve longer, make more room in the chest, and let out the area in the hips? You know, so that it's fair for women.

It's not about fairness, just practicallity and pragmatism. Uniforms are supposed to be functional, first and foremost. Having the best possible fit is part of that.

If we're gonna be pragmatic, let's make sure the soldiers are functional first. We can start by holding both genders to the same physical standards.


Well, the uniform thing is already done, and you'll probably get over it, so this might be an opportune time for you to start campaigning for equal physical standards. But isn't the important thing that people are assigned to functions that fit their abilities, regardless of gender? It's not like all men in the military have the same physique and fitness.
What are the differences in physical standards, by the way? Just curious.
 
2013-07-29 05:12:07 AM  
There were plenty of sizes when I wore BDUs/DCUs the chicks that didnt like how the standard issue accentuated their particular attributes, they had them tailored.

I looked like dopey and grew into them.
 
2013-07-29 05:17:35 AM  

Dansker: taurusowner: Dansker: sixstringsent: So...Females want to be treated like male soldiers and afforded the same opportunities as them, but could you...um...could you just hem this spot, make this sleeve longer, make more room in the chest, and let out the area in the hips? You know, so that it's fair for women.

It's not about fairness, just practicallity and pragmatism. Uniforms are supposed to be functional, first and foremost. Having the best possible fit is part of that.

If we're gonna be pragmatic, let's make sure the soldiers are functional first. We can start by holding both genders to the same physical standards.

Well, the uniform thing is already done, and you'll probably get over it, so this might be an opportune time for you to start campaigning for equal physical standards. But isn't the important thing that people are assigned to functions that fit their abilities, regardless of gender? It's not like all men in the military have the same physique and fitness.
What are the differences in physical standards, by the way? Just curious.


There are differences in the PT test.  There are different scales based on gender and age.
 
2013-07-29 05:24:46 AM  

jimmyego: Where's Hugo Boss when you need them to design some kick ass uniforms?


They are objectively sexy.
 
2013-07-29 05:27:22 AM  

thisisarepeat: There are differences in the PT test.  There are different scales based on gender and age.


That doesn't sound unreasonable. AFAIK there are many different essential functions in the military, with varying physical and intellectual requirements, so allowing for a wider range of recruits can ensure that the military functions at its best.

And getting back to the subject, a better fitting uniform can only improve performance, so I really don't see the problem with this.
 
2013-07-29 05:27:50 AM  
I love how some assholes here and in the article are derping about "women in combat will get raped if taken prisoner"

Yeah, that happens to guys too.   only guys do the lame macho crap of not reporting being cornholed because it's emasculating or some crap like that.
 
2013-07-29 05:30:37 AM  

Dansker: taurusowner: Dansker: sixstringsent: So...Females want to be treated like male soldiers and afforded the same opportunities as them, but could you...um...could you just hem this spot, make this sleeve longer, make more room in the chest, and let out the area in the hips? You know, so that it's fair for women.

It's not about fairness, just practicallity and pragmatism. Uniforms are supposed to be functional, first and foremost. Having the best possible fit is part of that.

If we're gonna be pragmatic, let's make sure the soldiers are functional first. We can start by holding both genders to the same physical standards.

What are the differences in physical standards, by the way? Just curious.



Males age 17-21
Pushups: 42
Situps: 53
2Mile run: 15min 54sec

Females age 17-21
Pushups: 19
Situps: 53
2Mile run: 18min 54sec

The gap persists at other age groups.
 
2013-07-29 05:38:59 AM  

taurusowner:
Males age 17-21
[...]
The gap persists at other age groups.


So, if I understand correctly, there are also different physical standards between males in different age groups. Do you think that is a problem
 
2013-07-29 05:58:18 AM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: So, gheys can now join the military openly and now they make the uniforms more drab.


It's just typical, isn't it? Uniforms used to be fabulous, but you let the gays in, and all sense of style goes right out the window.

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Bring back the good old days!
 
2013-07-29 06:02:30 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: God, the comments at the bottom are derpy.


Every time Fark links me to an article on some local affiliate's news site and it has 1000 derpy comments I head to Drudge real quick to check if it was linked there as well.

Yep.
 
2013-07-29 06:06:01 AM  
They moved the rank insignia directly between the breasts?!

WTF? So you have to stare directly at a female soldiers breasts now to learn her rank? Whose idea was that?
 
2013-07-29 06:08:18 AM  
I love the Air Force standards better.  They have a point based system and then a min for each area so this is the min before you auto fail for all ages less than 30.  Now with all mins you will not pass.

Male
1.5 Miles: 13:15-13:36
Waist: 39"
Push Up: 33
Sit UP: 42

Female
1.5 Miles: 15:51-16:22
Waist: 35.5"
Push Up: 18
Situp: 38

I'm glad they put in the min system because in the past females would do one push up and then get max points for the waist and have no worries about failing.  Garbage that a 50-59 male has the same run time as a 18-30 year old female.
 
2013-07-29 06:08:53 AM  
Should have a feature that turns it into a body bag.
 
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