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(Salt Lake Tribune)   Apparently, Glenn Beck collects Nazi, um, memorabilia   (sltrib.com) divider line 136
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2013-07-28 09:11:53 PM
14 votes:
So, let me get this straight, some people believe all these artifacts should be destroyed and completely forgotten about?  Yes, let's forget history so that we can repeat it.  It's GOOD to keep these artifacts and display them.  We NEED to be reminded about these horrors so that we can learn a lesson.  There is a group of people who deny the whole thing even happened.  If we get rid of these things, then how do we prove they are crazy and not correct?  How do we remind our children of it to let them know not to repeat it?
2013-07-28 08:30:15 PM
10 votes:
More than 70 old, most of the detritus of Germany's Nationalsozialisten was destroyed after the war and continue to be banned to this day. The survival of such "memorabilia" can only be achieved with help from Nazi sympathizers wishing to pass on the torch.

Or antiques dealers, or historians, or any number of people looking to make a quick buck on things their Grandpa brought back from the War.  And it's not banned in the US, you vapid twat.  Jesus - nothing like a knee-jerk reaction to look all responsible and mature about things.

That said... it doesn't strike me as at all strange that Glenn Beck collects KKK robes and Nazi banners.  Nor does it surprise me that he chose a semi-theocracy within the US as the best place to display them.  Seriously - you guys expect he collects Civil Rights memorabilia or something?
2013-07-28 09:10:44 PM
8 votes:
So, he collects historic relics.  Who cares.  Untwist your panties and move on.
2013-07-28 09:22:41 PM
7 votes:
The subject of Nazi memorabilia is a weird one for me, on the one hand it is important these artifacts are preserved and displayed, on the other hand the private trade for profit of such memorabilia strikes me as morally wrong. However, I am aware that museums can't take and display everything so private collections serve an important purpose.  So I guess I don't know what to think about the collectors.

What I do know is displaying them at what amounts to a political rally, by a cut rate political hack is extremely tacky.
2013-07-28 09:55:03 PM
6 votes:
I got your Nazi memorabilia right here.
upload.wikimedia.org
2013-07-28 09:09:40 PM
6 votes:
still better than being a brony.
2013-07-28 09:08:57 PM
5 votes:
a satin handkerchief browned with Hitler's blood.

That's almost more like a relic (using the "body parts of saints kept for reasons of worship" definition) than memorabilia.
2013-07-28 08:42:33 PM
5 votes:
stopbeck.com

I, for one, am shocked...
2013-07-28 08:07:57 PM
5 votes:
Strange? This one needs a "Par for the Course" tag.
2013-07-28 10:04:49 PM
4 votes:

Slartibartfaster: OnlyM3: More whining from the left. Who gives a fark

NAZI is national socialist
just saying n all
cuz ya know - dont want anyone to be buttfark ignorant


Do you think the Democratic Republic of North Korea is a Democratic Republic?
2013-07-28 08:26:19 PM
4 votes:
He really likes Nazis.
2013-07-28 08:15:55 PM
4 votes:
25.media.tumblr.com
2013-07-29 02:32:51 AM
3 votes:
I don't think Glenn Beck is remotely a Nazi sympathizer, I think that in his mind that whole collection made absolute sense to be making some point about America, it's just that Glenn Beck is farking nuts. It's like his crazy chalkboard charts that make perfect sense to his insane brain but look like the scrawling of a crazy person to everyone who's sane. And of course he's too batshiat insane to realize that nobody else looks at his little collection and sees the connections he's drawing without him spelling it out.

He doesn't like the Nazis, he just spends all of his time Godwinning everything.
2013-07-29 02:22:37 AM
3 votes:

atomic-age: brainiac-dumdum: a satin handkerchief browned with Hitler's blood.

That's almost more like a relic (using the "body parts of saints kept for reasons of worship" definition) than memorabilia.

I agree, plus, who wants the autograph of someone they opposite of admire? I'm going out on a limb and saying he does admit Hitler.


Any answer other than "my grandfather brought this back from World War II" and I'm going to think you're a farking weirdo.

I met a lot of dudes who collected Nazi shiat, or always played Nazis in LARP or video games.  Eventually, the "What?  I think this shiat is cool" starts to turn into "Well, the average soldier was just fighting for his country" turns into "The Waffen SS was just elite troops.  It would be like joining the Rangers today.  I respect that."  turns into "You know, if they had just invaded the USSR, think of all the problems they would have prevented" turns into "Auschwitz wasn't much different than Manzanar.  It's just being on a defensive footing meant they had problems getting food and medicine to the camps."  to "God, I bet Hitler's testicles would feel wonderful in my mouth."
2013-07-29 12:02:52 AM
3 votes:

TotesCrayCray: The anti-Obama and Nazi talk reminds me of something. There's a guy that I've seen in and around my area a few times. He wears a large sign on his front that says "IMPEACH OBAMA" and has a picture of Obama with a Hitler mustache.

I was driving my one day and decided to finally see what he was handing out to people. It's lulzy. Here's the scans of it.

[i.imgur.com image 719x411]

http://i.imgur.com/xpiTCpQ.png

http://i.imgur.com/XGxLhMG.png


He looks like a LaRoucher. At least that's who has those signs here in Seattle
2013-07-29 12:00:03 AM
3 votes:

remus: So, let me get this straight, some people believe all these artifacts should be destroyed and completely forgotten about?  Yes, let's forget history so that we can repeat it.  It's GOOD to keep these artifacts and display them.  We NEED to be reminded about these horrors so that we can learn a lesson.  There is a group of people who deny the whole thing even happened.  If we get rid of these things, then how do we prove they are crazy and not correct?  How do we remind our children of it to let them know not to repeat it?


There's a difference between, say, the Holocaust Museum, and the badly-organized collection of a man who shows literally textbook signs of paranoid schizophrenia.
2013-07-28 10:29:55 PM
3 votes:

stonelotus: still better than being a brony.


At the point you consider being a paranoid, right-winged neo-nazi who is thinly veiled as an entertainer better than being a member of a cartoon fandom, I don't think it's that fandom that needs to reevaluate their lives.
2013-07-28 09:13:55 PM
3 votes:
The exhibition occupied two small rooms and brought together a panoply of objects spanning three centuries. Early American currency was presented alongside 18th century Bibles, sculptures of simian "slaves" and presidential memorabilia. Many of these items derived from the personal collection of David Barton, a publisher of tea party literature.

Also, a known deliberate liar for Jesus.

If anyone should be pictured under the dictionary word for "scum," it should be this ass bag.

Link
2013-07-28 09:12:51 PM
3 votes:
That blood soaked handkerchief was Hitler's. It most definitely did not belong to a young woman who was raped and murdered in 1990.
2013-07-28 09:12:22 PM
3 votes:
Beck has often drawn parallels between Nazi history and contemporary American politics

Well that's his problem right there: he should be comparing contemporary American politics to the fall of the Roman republic.  That or the fall of the Galactic republic.
2013-07-29 05:32:37 PM
2 votes:

Thurston Howell: This thing needs to go into the incinerator, or it needs to get locked up in a secure facility until such time as Paramount launches Clone Hitler into space so that there will be a villain for the next Star Trek movie.


Man.
25.media.tumblr.com
They remake EVERYTHING these days.
2013-07-29 08:37:35 AM
2 votes:

ficklefkrfark: Shhhhhhhh! you are only validating his view that democrats are evil...


Hell of an assumption

For what its worth, Im left of the left of both chicken shiat American political parties
Theyre not visibly different from an outsiders perspective

// America - DIVIDED AND CONQUERED
2013-07-29 03:45:24 AM
2 votes:

rynthetyn: Isn't The Family a fan of Mein Kampf because they like how Hitler was a strong leader and think that if only he believed the right things he would have been great?


Not just that--Rick Warren (and, for that matter, C. Peter Wagner himself--aka Papa NARasite Himself) have outright stated that the Hitlerjugend (and in fact the entire personality cult re Hitler) as well as the Cultural Revolution (and in fact the entire personality cult re Mao Zedong) are explicit models for both how dominionist groups should organise themselves and the general level of zeal and totalitarianism that they should promote.

There really, truly is a disturbing amount of admiration for totalitarian revolutionary movements in dominionist groups in general (the dominionist group formerly known as Campus Crusade for Christ--which recently renamed itself to Cru when a lot of press started coming out how they were dominionist religionationalists, how they used a lot of coercive tactics in both recruitment and keeping members, and how they were putting out a surprising amount of anti-DNC pro-dominionist propoganda disguised as "documentaries"--has in their literature explicitly held up Bolshevik "People's Revolutionary Cells" (basically the apartment-level soviets of six to twelve people that were the basis of Leninist revolutionary groups and people's soviets in general) as the direct inspiration for their cell-church-based organisational model; in fact, pretty much MOST NARasite groups that use "cell churches" or "discipling and shepherding" ultimately credit Leninist and Maoist "People's Revolutionary Cells" for the idea for their OWN coercive cell groups (and there is a definite body of research that strongly suggests that the "big brother"-ish cell structure--whether it is in the form of Amway IBOs and similar MLM "business motivational" setups, dominionist "cell churches", or the "People's Revolutionary Cells" sort of neighbourhood-cells that still exist in North Korea and existed during the Cultural Revolution in China--that pyramidal cell-group structures are inherently coercive and capable of causing psychological harm and frank psychiatric injuries)...right down to the use of cell-church-structured wolf-in-sheep's-clothing "lay ministries" by the Institute for Religion and Democracy and FGBMFI to infiltrate mainline (and non-neopentecostal, in the case of FGBMFI) churches to convert them to dominionism from within.)
2013-07-29 03:18:28 AM
2 votes:
This thread reminds me of why I love it hear and need to go total fark pronto.  Absolutely hilarious and wide ranging opinions on display.

Honestly, if it was anyone else and they had less personal items of these monsters then it wouldn't seem so douchey.  I mean, if it was a flag, some military gear or propaganda posters I wouldn't bat an eye.  The personal nature of the items he has chosen to collect and then display is what makes it seem so seedy.  How a blood soaked handkerchief is historically signifigant in any way is beyond me.  Most of these items do nothing to educate people as to who Hitler and his henchmen were and what they did to so many.  Yet this is exactly what he says its supposed to do.  For me its hard to justify this in any way from an historical perspective.
2013-07-29 02:52:56 AM
2 votes:

rynthetyn: I don't think Glenn Beck is remotely a Nazi sympathizer, I think that in his mind that whole collection made absolute sense to be making some point about America, it's just that Glenn Beck is farking nuts. It's like his crazy chalkboard charts that make perfect sense to his insane brain but look like the scrawling of a crazy person to everyone who's sane. And of course he's too batshiat insane to realize that nobody else looks at his little collection and sees the connections he's drawing without him spelling it out.

He doesn't like the Nazis, he just spends all of his time Godwinning everything.


Eh...I'm not entirely sure. I mean; agreed, I don't think he's a Nazi sympathizer, per se. But, if you ever listen to him talk about history (and, god save me, I've listened to more than I ever wanted to), it's clear that he worships at the alter of the "Great Man." There is a genuine admiration and sympathy that comes out when he talks about the outsized individuals who shaped history -- in whatever direction.

Personally, I think it's just simple megalomania on his part. I believe he genuinely thinks of himself as one of those "Great Men," and whether he identifies with these other figures as friends or foes, it is certainly a kind of "peer" relationship. It doesn't shock me in the slightest that he'd be collecting the personal effects of Nazi leaders, regardless whatever rationalization he wants to slather on top of his little hobby.
2013-07-29 02:37:37 AM
2 votes:
I'm sure he has a keen interest in history.  And I'd even concede that he is probably not some comical closet Nazi.

But if you ever happen to let slip that you have something like an Official Führer Hankie with Adolf's Bloody Boogers on it, you have to know that 9 out of 10 people are going to ask why.

It doesn't have to be a scholarly explanation.  It doesn't have to any more complex than "Here's this thing I bought at a garage sale last weekend, and I'm keeping it: for the lulz / because's it's macabre and nobody else has one / because only I can keep it safe from the crazy bastards who want to clone Hitler / because I'm going to have it DNA tested to see if it's really a Hitler Loogie / because I think having a travelling freakshow will increase sales / because it reminds me of the terrible suffering nosebleeds, Nazis and handkerchiefs can cause."

Or you can say nothing and let your opponents call you a Nazi worshipper.
2013-07-29 02:32:57 AM
2 votes:

CheetahOlivetti: Does Beck also have his own Barbie museum?


Yes, but it's Klaus Barbie.
2013-07-29 12:14:00 AM
2 votes:

gobstopping: The Wash DC Holocaust museum has Nazi memorabilia, and a Canadian war museum has Adolf Hitler's personal car on display. I've known a few old timers who picked up a few 'memorabilia' items when they were fighting the Nazis in WWII. Parts of the Berlin wall rest in NYC as a reminder, and parts of the WTC buildings were made into memorials all over the counrty. No Glenn Beck fan here, but how is collecting historical items or displaying them equal to agreeing with what they stood for?


People are not troubled because he collects Nazi memorabilia; they are troubled because of specific memorabilia items.  Letters from Göring to Heydrich advising him to work on a solution to the "Jewish problem"?  Put that in an archive; it's evidence of intent.  Heydrich's orders to commence  Operation Reinhard?  Evidence of intention and action to murder millions; save that too.  The world needs that kind of proof.  Photos of the constructed deatrh camps, and the physical infrastructure of the camps themselves?  Preserve that; it's part of the chain of evidence.

But Hitler's bloody handkerchief?  Göring's love letters?  Unless you can tie that to a film or photograph where Hitler used the hankie, or Göring's letters discuss some of the operational details of the war, government, etc... those are odd mementoes to hang on to.

A British store that sells wargaming miniatures has put some of Lord Nelson's letters (including letters to his mistress) up on the web.  You will not be surprised to learn that a line of miniature sailing ships is one of the store's marquee items.  What's Glenn Beck hocking that ties, in however tenuous a way, to the romantic life of Hermann Göring?  Or Hitler's nosebleeds?

I believe it's important to show the ordinary side of history's monsters, so that we understand that to their contemporaries and collaborators, these monsters did not appear to be obvious lunatics.  In so doing we may further understand that any man or woman in the world today could command similar respect and obedience, and use it to equally murderous ends--and that it might not be immediately obvious how horrifying it will turn out.  If one wants to preserve Hitler's bloody hanky, give it to a museum or organisation dedicated to examining and illuminating that era, so that it can be of some good to the world.  Hiding it in your private stash isn't exactly a marker of evil, but it will raise a shiatstorm of uncomplimentary speculation.  And it doesn't say much for a) one's abilities as an historian and b) one's intent in retaining them if he can't be bothered to give the artifacts some context.
2013-07-29 12:12:48 AM
2 votes:
2013-07-29 12:08:18 AM
2 votes:

TotesCrayCray: The anti-Obama and Nazi talk reminds me of something. There's a guy that I've seen in and around my area a few times. He wears a large sign on his front that says "IMPEACH OBAMA" and has a picture of Obama with a Hitler mustache.

I was driving my one day and decided to finally see what he was handing out to people. It's lulzy. Here's the scans of it.

[i.imgur.com image 719x411]

http://i.imgur.com/xpiTCpQ.png

http://i.imgur.com/XGxLhMG.png


Knew that was one of the LaRouche douche crowd before opening the links. The guys does the same thing when he goes on vacation. Was down in Destin a couple months ago and spent his entire Florida panhandle vacation hanging out at the Destin post office with a buddy holding the same sign. Even sadder, he got a lot of car honking support from the local yokels because of his Hitler Fartbongo patriotism. You can't fix stupid.
2013-07-29 12:02:06 AM
2 votes:

Fissile: Mugato: Slartibartfaster: OnlyM3: More whining from the left. Who gives a fark

NAZI is national socialist
just saying n all
cuz ya know - dont want anyone to be buttfark ignorant

That's what conservatives actually believe. Except when they don't.

/even more "left", "libs" bullshiat than usual today

================

Yup, guys like Beck are tards, schizo, or both.

Beck goes on about how big government sucks, while admiring Nazi Germany, which was all about centralized big government.

The term Nazi is a portmanteau of national and socialist.   Education or job training were guaranteed to all Germans during the Nazi regime.   Universal health care was instituted for all Germans.  Job protections, including paid vacations, and old age pensions were guaranteed.  The Nazis undertook massive public works projects, including mass transit and construction of the autobahn.  On and on it went.  This is what Hitler had to say about capitalism: "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."Hitler thought more highly of the Soviets than he did of the Americans.


"Portmateau" my ass.

And you are a poseur.

Either you quote Hitler out if sheer ignorance of how what he and Scheer did with the likes of AG Bayer, Krupp and the rest who actually financed the Reich or you chose to make a point out of linking him with Socialism.

The latter part of your statement confirms the former, since Nazism was developed and flourished out of the same ethic that still drives the conservative establishment in the US today - an abiding hated of Boleshevism and a fear of it's spread.

If you pretend to understand history take that 2nd course at the community college and STFU.
2013-07-28 11:53:56 PM
2 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: That said... it doesn't strike me as at all strange that Glenn Beck collects KKK robes and Nazi banners.  Nor does it surprise me that he chose a semi-theocracy within the US as the best place to display them.  Seriously - you guys expect he collects Civil Rights memorabilia or something?


That two-faced Göbbels-wannabe hypocrite is always assuring us how much he admires Martin Luther King, and in the next breath spewing off about Union Thugs. (What was King was doing in Memphis that day?) If King were still alive, Glenn Beck would be the loudest mouth on the airwaves calling him a communist.
2013-07-28 11:49:55 PM
2 votes:

Epicfarker: That blood soaked handkerchief was Hitler's. It most definitely did not belong to a young woman who was raped and murdered in 1990.


Are you suggesting that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a Nazi in 1990?
2013-07-28 11:48:26 PM
2 votes:
The Wash DC Holocaust museum has Nazi memorabilia, and a Canadian war museum has Adolf Hitler's personal car on display. I've known a few old timers who picked up a few 'memorabilia' items when they were fighting the Nazis in WWII. Parts of the Berlin wall rest in NYC as a reminder, and parts of the WTC buildings were made into memorials all over the counrty. No Glenn Beck fan here, but how is collecting historical items or displaying them equal to agreeing with what they stood for? It's history: Plus. we should made sure to always display the ugly parts of our past so future generations do not commit the same atrocities. Ignorance of the past will allow it to repeat, because people won't recognize just what pure evil looks like if it ended up turning up in the world.

Not only do I think Nazi memorabilia should be displayed in museums, I think students should be exposed to Nazi propaganda films right next to the horrors that they caused. . . because they need to understand what evil looks like. Evil like that is never honest. The Nazis didn't parade around with holocaust pictures: They paraded around with 'gleaming banners' and tried to make their sick world view look appealing to it's targets. Perhaps if the German people had been exposed prior to the rise of Hitler to the atrocities of the past in a real way, they might have thought twice before 'democratically electing' him and millions of people (and millions more of their decedents) would have lived full, healthy, and happy lives.
2013-07-28 11:16:00 PM
2 votes:

Mikey1969: Sorry, he collects historic relics from racist assholes, and then doesn't bother to display them in a way that in no way separates them from a young woman who came to symbolize the killing and persecution of a race of people. You display it in a way that shows that you AREN'T a racist, and in a way that demonstrates that you know the difference between Anne Frank and Adolph Hitler, and then they ARE just historical relics, you throw all the shait together with no context, and you're either a clueless douchebag or a racist, Nazi loving douchebag.


Precisely.  Even if Beck was trying to do something relatively benign but hilariously inept; i.e. thought Obama was the second coming of Hitler, and was trying to draw that equivalence, then one would jam a few Obama artifacts in there and maybe a couple of placards with info-blurbs about how they relate.  And if you can't do that much, maybe just a table between the two with a stack of his book (that presumably tells the reader how one political leader is like the other).

But as the writer notes, the primary exhibit is early Americana/Revolutionary War junk; the Nazi relics are a secondary exhibit.  They don't really compute or relate (except in the vaguest sense of being "historical junk").  And if you think they do relate, you at least owe the audience a tiny bit of explanation.  Even the laziest of modern artists who shart on a sheet and then put it up in a private gallery generally have enough sense to include a blurb in the exhibition, telling the too-dumb-to-realise-at-first-glance bourgeoisie that the sheet represents the world's innate capacity for peace and goodness, and the shart represents the ugliness of Western consumerism and corporate oligopoly).  They know nobody is going to make the same connection without a little hand-holding.   Hell, not even Grade 1 kids in a science fair get away with exhibits without context.
2013-07-28 11:11:00 PM
2 votes:

jtown: The survival of such "memorabilia" can only be achieved with help from Nazi sympathizers wishing to pass on the torch.

Bull.  shiat.

How do you explain history without having any of the symbols to show?  There's a heck of a difference between seeing 3x2" black and white picture in a history book and seeing the actual objects created by a culture of insanity.  Owning such an object does not mean the owner automatically accepts and extols the ideals of the object's creator(s).  The objects can serve as a reminder and a warning of what can happen if you let someone like Hitler remain in power.

I'm not saying Glenn Beck doesn't dress up in an SS uniform and choke himself while he jerks off but simply owning those objects doesn't mean he does.


Yeah, but the "bloody handkerchief" takes it all into a decidedly freaky direction. If he wanted something that had touched Hitler specifically as a part of his collection, he could have stopped at the signed copy of Mein Kampf.
2013-07-28 11:01:48 PM
2 votes:

Propain_az: So, he collects historic relics.  Who cares.  Untwist your panties and move on.


Sorry, he collects historic relics from racist assholes, and then doesn't bother to display them in a way that in no way separates them from a young woman who came to symbolize the killing and persecution of a race of people. You display it in a way that shows that you AREN'T a racist, and in a way that demonstrates that you know the difference between Anne Frank and Adolph Hitler, and then they ARE just historical relics, you throw all the shait together with no context, and you're either a clueless douchebag or a racist, Nazi loving douchebag.
2013-07-28 10:47:37 PM
2 votes:
One of my friends grew up next door to a man who had served in the German Army during WWII.  My friend once asked him what he thought about American neo-Nazis.  The old guy replied,  "From what I see, most would never had made it through German Army training."
2013-07-28 10:44:02 PM
2 votes:

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Defining state owned control / heavy government ties to privately owned corporations does not equal the definition of socialism currently levied against Obama.


The definition of socialism levied against Obama is a fantasy of mouth-breathing idiots who wouldn't know an economic fact if it bit them on the penis.
2013-07-28 10:14:41 PM
2 votes:
Let's try that again.

i463.photobucket.com
2013-07-28 10:09:50 PM
2 votes:
I have a series of books of the Pictorial History of the Third Reich.  Got it from my dad.  Haven't looked at them in ages, but when I was younger it was a damn grim reminder that yeah, this happened, Hitler was a human being, and figuring out how that happened instead of demonizing him as simply a monster was an important thing to do.  Pretty sure I scared a friend of a friend a little bit when I pulled one of those books from the shelf, but I'm sure as hell not going to give them away even if I haven't opened them in years upon years (lest they fall into the wrong hands, to say the least).  It's a grim reminder of how low things can get and that's all.

But collecting memorabilia, sh-t... I never, ever EVER got that.  Unless it was passed through a relative who took it away from the goddamn Nazis.

Blathering Idjut: On the other hand, this little display is a celebration, not historical preservation.  It bears no relation to any historical study of the matter, aside from the physical presence of the artifacts.


Or I could just say THIS.
2013-07-28 10:05:35 PM
2 votes:

Fissile: Not defending Beck in any way, but Lemmy from Motorhead, David Bowie and Mick Jagger all have collections of Nazi stuff.


Lemmy had a great line about that in his biopic. Lemmy's dated a number of Jewish women over the years, black women, etc. No indication he's a white supremacist or Nazi sympathizer. He said, "If the Israeli Army had the coolest looking uniforms, I'd wear theirs."

Hugo Boss designs your gear, people are gonna want to wear it.
2013-07-28 09:47:27 PM
2 votes:

OnlyM3: More whining from the left. Who gives a fark


NAZI is national socialist
just saying n all
cuz ya know - dont want anyone to be buttfark ignorant
2013-07-28 09:42:27 PM
2 votes:

brainiac-dumdum: a satin handkerchief browned with Hitler's blood.

That's almost more like a relic (using the "body parts of saints kept for reasons of worship" definition) than memorabilia.


Yeah.  I have several German WWII firearms and an Iron Cross.  Uncle has a flag off a Nazi destroyer (grandfather's brother brought it back).  Those are memorabilia.

Signed crap, love letters, BLOOD?  Yeah, that's getting into creepy territory.
2013-07-28 09:41:25 PM
2 votes:
There are genuine historic collections which contain items who's original owner was wicked, and then there is having a signed copy of Mein Kampf and a sample of Hitler's blood......
2013-07-28 09:29:36 PM
2 votes:

stonelotus: still better than being a brony.


You mean running around peddling lies & half truths for a profit while having a messianic complex is better than being a fan of children's cartoon?


Um, okay.
2013-07-28 09:25:20 PM
2 votes:
This does not actually lower my opinion of Glenn Beck.

Only because it cannot get any lower.
2013-07-28 09:23:28 PM
2 votes:
This doesn't surprise me at all. He has a serious fascination with Socialism and Fascism.
2013-07-28 09:18:23 PM
2 votes:
NO!
2013-07-28 09:15:25 PM
2 votes:

Propain_az: So, he collects historic relics.  Who cares.  Untwist your panties and move on.


Yeah, I'm sure he's not a Nazi fanboy. Good luck with that.
2013-07-28 09:03:10 PM
2 votes:

staplermofo: Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously - you guys expect he collects Civil Rights memorabilia or something?

I did kinda picture him as the kind of guy who'd have a Frederik Willem de Klerk statue in his study.


That's actually pretty defensive, de Klerk was a relatively good dude. PW Botha maybe more appropriate.
2013-07-28 08:33:08 PM
2 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Seriously - you guys expect he collects Civil Rights memorabilia or something?


I did kinda picture him as the kind of guy who'd have a Frederik Willem de Klerk statue in his study.
2013-07-28 08:14:00 PM
2 votes:
I don't have a Nazi captain obvious
www.andyandnoreen.com
2013-07-29 05:25:50 PM
1 votes:

Fade2black: HST's Dead Carcass: This doesn't surprise me at all. He has a serious fascination with Socialism and Fascism.

He either supports Socialism/Fascism, or he's a Tea Party sympathizer.  You're probably masturbating to the thought of painting him as the ultimate bad guy, but you can't have it both ways.


Posts like this demonstrate the need for a "stupid" button, but I contend there's a need for a "Freudian projection" button as well.
2013-07-29 01:20:56 PM
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Thurston Howell: What's Glenn Beck hocking that ties, in however tenuous a way, to the romantic life of Hermann Göring?  Or Hitler's nosebleeds?


If I had to take a guess, it's that Goering and Hitler were human beings who had sex lives (blech!!) and whose noses bled. When such men have been built up even by their enemies as being so extraordinary as to be beyond human, convincing anyone that another of their like walks among us today becomes very difficult. One part of the trick is to minimize what these men did while maintaining the negative emotions toward it, build up the actions of some current person to be more than what it is, and then connect the current person's actions to the actions of the past enemy with some superficial similarities, thereby transferring the negative emotions built up toward the past enemy onto the current person. It's not the complete trick, though. We have a tendency to see people who write love letters, bleed from the nose, fart profusely or are otherwise prone to the same human traits as the rest of us as being more like us. This is why we see so many pictures of politicians playing with dogs and children, eating and drinking, or doing "normal things". Usually, that has the effect of eliciting sympathy for the humanized politician, but it can be used to bring a vaunted enemy of the past down far enough to fit into the present. I don't mean to imply that it is necessarily a bad thing to do so. These were actual people, who ate, drank, farked, and shat like the rest of us. It is far more comforting to believe men such as Goering and Hitler were monsters or demons or some other sort of anomalous creatures than it is to believe that men like them, who would do the same monstrous deeds, are out there right now.

Either that, or Beck's just randomly grabbing things he thinks are important, validating their historical importance by the collector's price tag on the objects, and showing his fan-friends the cool stuff he's got.
2013-07-29 12:01:09 PM
1 votes:

rynthetyn: The movie "Downfall" is best known on the Internet for the Hitler reaction me memes but the reason it's a great movie and was incredibly controversial when it was released is because it does just that--show the Nazi leadership as human. People prefer their evil as cartoon villains but that film did a brilliant job of humanizing Hitler and forcing the viewer to face the fact that humanity is capable of such evil.


Oh god I watched it a month or two back and I couldn't stop crying when the Goebbels's killed their kids. I mean I knew it happened but the depiction of was disturbing. Also my disbelief about Goring has to do his appearance. Lolol read his wiki he got called a high class ho by one of the other nazis.
2013-07-29 11:28:59 AM
1 votes:

Speef: ceremony must need more hitler blood to be effective. Anyone know where I can get some?


Brazil
2013-07-29 11:09:38 AM
1 votes:

Speef: I am really impressed by the bit where Hitler-fanboys raising comments is "left wing whining".  Whatever group you identify with must be exceptionally proud to have you as a fellow member.

HEAR ME, VILE THREAD!
THE POWER OF FARK COMPELS YOU!
I BANISH THEE BACK TO THE FOUL DEPTHS OF THE POLITICS TAB-
BEGONE!

/ceremony must need more hitler blood to be effective. Anyone know where I can get some?


^^^Best omment of the day
2013-07-29 10:25:26 AM
1 votes:

Lachwen: A Terrible Human: Also ewwwwwww who the fark wrote love letters to Goring?

We need to remember that evil people are still human.

I don't mean that in a "try walking in  their shoes for a while, man!" kind of way, or to mean that the people we label as "evil" are really just misunderstood and we should try making friends with them like in some sappy after-school special.  The problem, though, is that we tend to portray the monsters of our history as, well, monsters - creatures too base to even be considered human, who were pure evil and nothing else.  Thinking of them in such terms makes it harder for people to consider that their own preferred politician could try to lead them in a similar direction.  We tend to think of evil people as being blatantly, almost cartoonishly evil, like Snidely Whiplash.  We do need to remember that evil can be obscured beneath normal, everyday things like a passion for painting or a sincere, heartfelt love letter.


So much THIS. To recognize the seeds of evil in ourselves, not thinking its this bogeyman that could never happen to you.

The corollary: we need to stop deifying heroes.  I cringe every time the wingnuts bring up the Founding Fathers as if they were God's angels who could do no wrong. Many made mistakes (slaveowning being the worst) and they certainly put their pants on one leg at a time.  Kids grow up thinking they could never do anything as as amazing as what historical figures did, because they're never given a clear picture of who those people really were and what they really struggled with and what they got wrong.
2013-07-29 09:41:40 AM
1 votes:
Sgt Otter
Slartibartfaster: OnlyM3:
More whining from the left. Who gives a fark
--

NAZI is national socialist
just saying n all
cuz ya know - dont want anyone to be buttfark ignorant

--

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.


It's kinda sad how many people have heard of that Niemöller quote but apparently don't realize that those groups and the order in which they're mentioned aren't just a coincidence.

It's also telling - if not highly ironic - how often the first line with the communists isn't mentioned.
I guess with McCarthyism and the Cold War nobody spoke out because they weren't communists or too afraid to be considered communists...
2013-07-29 08:34:13 AM
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Lee Jackson Beauregard: Slartibartfaster: NAZI is national socialist

And the Moral Majority was both of those things and the Holy Roman Empire was all three.


Im aware it was a misnomer, I just defined the word

// lives in the "peoples republic" of China
// used to live in the "United" states of America
2013-07-29 07:59:53 AM
1 votes:
I doubt Hitler's is the only DNA on that handkerchief.
2013-07-29 07:13:10 AM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: We also need to make it known that the world will not tolerate industrialized genocide like the Nazis developed. And that the cost of doing such to the perpetrators will be far in excess of the harm they inflict on others.


I love the notion, but I don't believe there's anyone, any government, or any group or institution to actually uphold that kind of ideal. Although I'd expand it to just say that, killing, torturing, kidnapping, otherwise causing deliberate and unnecessary harm to any human being is wholly unacceptable and should never be condoned or tolerated, whether done by an individual, mob, or organized government/military.

Also, unfortunately(?), I don't think there's anything you can do to a person to someone who has killed other humans that is in excess of the harm he has already done (sure you could kill him, but then you're a murderer, too, and he's still only died once).
2013-07-29 06:02:08 AM
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remus: So, let me get this straight, some people believe all these artifacts should be destroyed and completely forgotten about?  Yes, let's forget history so that we can repeat it.  It's GOOD to keep these artifacts and display them.  We NEED to be reminded about these horrors so that we can learn a lesson.  There is a group of people who deny the whole thing even happened.  If we get rid of these things, then how do we prove they are crazy and not correct?  How do we remind our children of it to let them know not to repeat it?


The problem is not that people want artifacts and historical works for remembrance. The problem is that people seem to want these in some cases because Hitler was a "swell guy" with some really good ideas to them. You have to remember, as well, that before the Invasion of France and Pearl Harbor, Hitler was a pretty popular guy in the United States, and the US ascribed to the same eugenics theories he did.

CowardlyLion: To be fair, nothing will stop people from repeating the past, as has been illustrated by every(?) leader/government in history. But, yeah, I'm in favor of saving whatever evidence we can of atrocities, whenever possible, that we can occasionally know what was done in the past when people start doing the same thing again.

/unfortunately, evidence tends to get destroyed


We also need to make it known that the world will not tolerate industrialized genocide like the Nazis developed. And that the cost of doing such to the perpetrators will be far in excess of the harm they inflict on others.
2013-07-29 05:19:07 AM
1 votes:
This should be the point where media outlets start asking highly specific questions, since (as the Great Porn Dragon has pointed out), that exhibit is a de facto neo-Nazi shrine.  All the other Hitler memorabilia (cars, uniforms, footie pajamas, etc) don't directly evoke the symbolism of the NSDAP's foundational myth (a.k.a the Beer Hall Putsch).  But this one piece of memorabilia is a little too heavily laden with symbolism.

So I think would be fair to start asking about the provenance of the BlutSchnozzenrag, and why exactly anyone with half a brain would want to put this thing on tour.  Even if one owned it with entirely innocent purposes (ie. to blow your own nose and defile the sacred relic), you'd have to be concerned about every skinhead and white power nutjob within a thousand miles coming to steal the thing from you and/or putting your life at risk until you turned it over to them.

This thing needs to go into the incinerator, or it needs to get locked up in a secure facility until such time as Paramount launches Clone Hitler into space so that there will be a villain for the next Star Trek movie.
2013-07-29 04:31:00 AM
1 votes:

MisterRonbo: Here's the part where context makes all the difference:

FTA: "from the personal collection of David Barton "

Now I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that this is the same David Barton who is a holocaust denier and has given a few speeches to Christian Identity groups, who have heaped praise on him.

Mein gott, how could we possibly think Beck is being a racist and an idiot?


Barton's artifacts were part of the Americana/Revolutionary War exhibit.  They are probably selected and intended to convey his message of Christian nationalism.

According to the author, the Nazi stuff comes from Beck's personal collection.

Now I don't put much stock in unprovable assertions of a vast dominionist conspiracy, and guilt by association is a largely fruitless ad hominem.  But more definitive symbolic associations like the Blutfahne are hard to ignore, and (to my mind) almost impossible to explain as mere coincidence.  That is much firmer ground.
2013-07-29 04:21:35 AM
1 votes:
This just in: Glenn Beck is an attention-whoring troll with all the credibility of a rodeo clown. Film at 11.
2013-07-29 04:09:08 AM
1 votes:

archichris: The author of the piece is completely insipid. She(?) wonders so many things that could be easily explained if she contacted becks people. The reason for the exhibit, the reason beck collects examples of the worst of humanity etc......


Here's the part where context makes all the difference:

FTA: "from the personal collection of David Barton "

Now I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that this is the same David Barton who is a holocaust denier and has given a few speeches to Christian Identity groups, who have heaped praise on him.

Mein gott, how could we possibly think Beck is being a racist and an idiot?
2013-07-29 04:00:06 AM
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remus: So, let me get this straight, some people believe all these artifacts should be destroyed and completely forgotten about?  Yes, let's forget history so that we can repeat it.  It's GOOD to keep these artifacts and display them.  We NEED to be reminded about these horrors so that we can learn a lesson.  There is a group of people who deny the whole thing even happened.  If we get rid of these things, then how do we prove they are crazy and not correct?  How do we remind our children of it to let them know not to repeat it?


And Hermann Göring's love letters are accomplishing this?

This isn't a museum, and these items aren't presented in any context. It's a farking freak show exhibit.

While I'm explaining context, here's some more: imagine if, say, one of the hosts of an MSNBC show had an exhibit of his collection of Lenin and Stalin memorabilia. Want to guess how Fox News would react?
2013-07-29 03:45:50 AM
1 votes:

Lachwen:My maternal grandfather served in the Signal Corps in WWII.  I know his unit was attached to the Seventh Army, that he was first sent to the African front and then went north through Italy, and that he was at Dachau immediately after the liberation (his unit was given the task of dealing with the survivors - according to my mother, upon returning home Grampa told Gramma about what he saw at Dachau once, and then never spoke about it again).  But that's all I know, and even that may not all be accurate; Grampa died when I was three, and Gramma died a few years ago, so all I know is what my mom can remember of what Gramma told h ...


National Personal Records Centre, Military Personnel Records--holds US service records from the Great War to present.  This is the place that you seek.

2013-07-29 03:44:56 AM
1 votes:

Lachwen: A Terrible Human: Also ewwwwwww who the fark wrote love letters to Goring?

I was going to make a joke about someone with your handle wondering who in the world might write love letters to a Nazi, but then I realized that this sort of reaction is why it might actually be important to keep those letters and, yes, display them:

We need to remember that evil people are still human.

I don't mean that in a "try walking in  their shoes for a while, man!" kind of way, or to mean that the people we label as "evil" are really just misunderstood and we should try making friends with them like in some sappy after-school special.  The problem, though, is that we tend to portray the monsters of our history as, well, monsters - creatures too base to even be considered human, who were pure evil and nothing else.  Thinking of them in such terms makes it harder for people to consider that their own preferred politician could try to lead them in a similar direction.  We tend to think of evil people as being blatantly, almost cartoonishly evil, like Snidely Whiplash.  We do need to remember that evil can be obscured beneath normal, everyday things like a passion for painting or a sincere, heartfelt love letter.


The movie "Downfall" is best known on the Internet for the Hitler reaction me memes but the reason it's a great movie and was incredibly controversial when it was released is because it does just that--show the Nazi leadership as human. People prefer their evil as cartoon villains but that film did a brilliant job of humanizing Hitler and forcing the viewer to face the fact that humanity is capable of such evil.
2013-07-29 03:43:12 AM
1 votes:

Lachwen: I was going to make a joke about someone with your handle wondering who in the world might write love letters to a Nazi, but then I realized that this sort of reaction is why it might actually be important to keep those letters and, yes, display them:

We need to remember that evil people are still human.


I agree with that, entirely. But, the love letters belong in a public archive, and Hitler's snot rag belongs in the trash. Individuals who make a personal hobby of collecting such things are rightfully viewed with some suspicion. Odds are, their interests in such artifacts are not purely antiquarian...
2013-07-29 03:29:51 AM
1 votes:

A Terrible Human: Also ewwwwwww who the fark wrote love letters to Goring?


I was going to make a joke about someone with your handle wondering who in the world might write love letters to a Nazi, but then I realized that this sort of reaction is why it might actually be important to keep those letters and, yes, display them:

We need to remember that evil people are still human.

I don't mean that in a "try walking in  their shoes for a while, man!" kind of way, or to mean that the people we label as "evil" are really just misunderstood and we should try making friends with them like in some sappy after-school special.  The problem, though, is that we tend to portray the monsters of our history as, well, monsters - creatures too base to even be considered human, who were pure evil and nothing else.  Thinking of them in such terms makes it harder for people to consider that their own preferred politician could try to lead them in a similar direction.  We tend to think of evil people as being blatantly, almost cartoonishly evil, like Snidely Whiplash.  We do need to remember that evil can be obscured beneath normal, everyday things like a passion for painting or a sincere, heartfelt love letter.

On a rather different, but still WWII-related note, I figure there are enough military history buffs in this thread to maybe give me a bit of advice.  My maternal grandfather served in the Signal Corps in WWII.  I know his unit was attached to the Seventh Army, that he was first sent to the African front and then went north through Italy, and that he was at Dachau immediately after the liberation (his unit was given the task of dealing with the survivors - according to my mother, upon returning home Grampa told Gramma about what he saw at Dachau once, and then never spoke about it again).  But that's all I know, and even that may not all be accurate; Grampa died when I was three, and Gramma died a few years ago, so all I know is what my mom can remember of what Gramma told her when she was younger.  I don't even know Grampa's unit number or what rank he held.  How would I go about learning more?  I never got to know the man himself, but I'd like to at least know more of his story.
2013-07-29 03:26:36 AM
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Great Porn Dragon: Mikey1969: Yeah, but the "bloody handkerchief" takes it all into a decidedly freaky frankly neo-Nazi direction. If he wanted something that had touched Hitler specifically as a part of his collection, he could have stopped at the signed copy of Mein Kampf.

FTFY, and unfortunately not joking--especially if one is aware of Nazi imagery regarding the so-called "Blood Flag" (Cliff's Notes version: the Blood Flag was an early Nazi flag that was flown during the failed Beer Hall Putsch that ended up being soaked in the blood of Nazis shot dead by the Munich police; when the Nazis actually got control back of Germany, the Blood Flag ended up being essentially a national cult symbol/totem that was used for dedication of Nazi functions and flags).  Knowing the general symbolism of blood imagery and the Blood Flag, I'd not be a damned bit shocked to see almost identical imagery concerning handkerchiefs soaked with Hitler's blood as a sort of neo-Nazi "Blood Flag" (as the original Blood Flag is generally thought to have been destroyed at the end of World War II).

The signed "Mein Kampf" and the Goring love-letters are creepy enough, the "Bitsy Hitler Bloodkerchief" pretty much all but throws that into de facto neo-Nazi shrine territory, however.  (Which is particularly disturbing to me, as it was in conjunction with a known display by dominionist (and NARasite, specifically) American-historical-revisionist David Barton (who generally promotes a view of history that, well, rather more resembles the official state propoganda promoted by Comstock's Columbia in Bioshock: Infinite than actual American history); it does give a worrisome possibility that dominionists (and their own versions of historical revisionism--not just "American religionationalist historical revisionism" but some particularly nasty forms of Holocaust denialism/Holocaust revisionism targeting LGBT people) may be mixing with or trying to recruit from the sorts of folks who WOULD revere Hitler's Bloodkerchief a ...


Isn't The Family a fan of Mein Kampf because they like how Hitler was a strong leader and think that if only he believed the right things he would have been great?
2013-07-29 03:18:33 AM
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Bumblefark: Eh...I'm not entirely sure. I mean; agreed, I don't think he's a Nazi sympathizer, per se. But, if you ever listen to him talk about history (and, god save me, I've listened to more than I ever wanted to), it's clear that he worships at the alter of the "Great Man." There is a genuine admiration and sympathy that comes out when he talks about the outsized individuals who shaped history -- in whatever direction.

Personally, I think it's just simple megalomania on his part. I believe he genuinely thinks of himself as one of those "Great Men," and whether he identifies with these other figures as friends or foes, it is certainly a kind of "peer" relationship.

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Approves.

/Worst Bond villain ever.
//Does this mean Timothy Dalton needs his own talk radio show?
2013-07-29 03:15:36 AM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: Yeah, but the "bloody handkerchief" takes it all into a decidedly freaky frankly neo-Nazi direction. If he wanted something that had touched Hitler specifically as a part of his collection, he could have stopped at the signed copy of Mein Kampf.


FTFY, and unfortunately not joking--especially if one is aware of Nazi imagery regarding the so-called "Blood Flag" (Cliff's Notes version: the Blood Flag was an early Nazi flag that was flown during the failed Beer Hall Putsch that ended up being soaked in the blood of Nazis shot dead by the Munich police; when the Nazis actually got control back of Germany, the Blood Flag ended up being essentially a national cult symbol/totem that was used for dedication of Nazi functions and flags).  Knowing the general symbolism of blood imagery and the Blood Flag, I'd not be a damned bit shocked to see almost identical imagery concerning handkerchiefs soaked with Hitler's blood as a sort of neo-Nazi "Blood Flag" (as the original Blood Flag is generally thought to have been destroyed at the end of World War II).

The signed "Mein Kampf" and the Goring love-letters are creepy enough, the "Bitsy Hitler Bloodkerchief" pretty much all but throws that into de facto neo-Nazi shrine territory, however.  (Which is particularly disturbing to me, as it was in conjunction with a known display by dominionist (and NARasite, specifically) American-historical-revisionist David Barton (who generally promotes a view of history that, well, rather more resembles the official state propoganda promoted by Comstock's Columbia in Bioshock: Infinite than actual American history); it does give a worrisome possibility that dominionists (and their own versions of historical revisionism--not just "American religionationalist historical revisionism" but some particularly nasty forms of Holocaust denialism/Holocaust revisionism targeting LGBT people) may be mixing with or trying to recruit from the sorts of folks who WOULD revere Hitler's Bloodkerchief as a new Blood Flag...)
2013-07-29 02:38:19 AM
1 votes:

WordsnCollision: grokca: brainiac-dumdum: a satin handkerchief browned with Hitler's blood.

That's almost more like a relic (using the "body parts of saints kept for reasons of worship" definition) than memorabilia.

Obviously plans on cloning Hitler. His plan all started in 1990 but he needed a body, preferably one that had been violated.


Sleeper?
Funny farking movie.
IMHO, the more we pay attention to this f0cktard, is the more we make his syphilitic rantings valid in the minds of the dullards who believe the shiat he spews.
2013-07-29 02:37:01 AM
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Benevolent Misanthrope: More than 70 old, most of the detritus of Germany's Nationalsozialisten was destroyed after the war and continue to be banned to this day. The survival of such "memorabilia" can only be achieved with help from Nazi sympathizers wishing to pass on the torch.

Or antiques dealers, or historians, or any number of people looking to make a quick buck on things their Grandpa brought back from the War.  And it's not banned in the US, you vapid twat.  Jesus - nothing like a knee-jerk reaction to look all responsible and mature about things.

That said... it doesn't strike me as at all strange that Glenn Beck collects KKK robes and Nazi banners.  Nor does it surprise me that he chose a semi-theocracy within the US as the best place to display them.  Seriously - you guys expect he collects Civil Rights memorabilia or something?


What sort of civil rights memorabilia would be acceptable?  The nozzle from one of the fire hoses used in Selma?  The bloody shredded pants from the guy being attacked by dogs in that famous photo?  How about the handcuffs they put on Rosa Parks?
2013-07-29 02:06:07 AM
1 votes:
Also ewwwwwww who the fark wrote love letters to Goring?
2013-07-29 01:56:47 AM
1 votes:
So, someone who publicly and very emotionally claims that the degenerates of the Cosmopolitan Elites (i.e., Liberals) are ruining the way of life the true living Real Americans. Who also vehemently argues that large corporations should be allowed to conduct their business without interference from these Elites. Who believes that we should look to the values of our historical founding fathers, and their simple societies based on things like decency, respect, and deference to the wise patricians.

And this same person privately collects love letters from Nazi commander, signed (personalised) copies of Nazi manifestos, and objects that hold Hitler's blood.

Colour me shocked.

At the expense of Godwinning this thread, the things in the first paragraph were the things Hitler wrote about in Mein Kampf.
2013-07-29 01:06:02 AM
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archichris: Benevolent Misanthrope: More than 70 old, most of the detritus of Germany's Nationalsozialisten was destroyed after the war and continue to be banned to this day. The survival of such "memorabilia" can only be achieved with help from Nazi sympathizers wishing to pass on the torch.

Or antiques dealers, or historians, or any number of people looking to make a quick buck on things their Grandpa brought back from the War.  And it's not banned in the US, you vapid twat.  Jesus - nothing like a knee-jerk reaction to look all responsible and mature about things.

That said... it doesn't strike me as at all strange that Glenn Beck collects KKK robes and Nazi banners.  Nor does it surprise me that he chose a semi-theocracy within the US as the best place to display them.  Seriously - you guys expect he collects Civil Rights memorabilia or something?

He does. I am by no means a regular listener....because unlike most Farkers I work 60 hours a week on my own company. .... but I've heard the various Beck-isms about these historical items.

The author of the piece is completely insipid. She(?) wonders so many things that could be easily explained if she contacted becks people. The reason for the exhibit, the reason beck collects examples of the worst of humanity etc......

But she doesnt bother, because its so much easier and suits her purpose perfectly to simply imply horrible things about the entire affair.

Becks group may indeed have displayed them poorly, not a surprise since they try to do far to many things to do them all well, but since his audience is rabid for more beck, it hardly matters.

Progressives appear very intent on erasing the truth about historical examples of their thinking, so maybe it isnt surprising they want Nazi artifacts destroyed.


Where did you get that? No one wants them destroyed. It's odd to have things like Hitler blood on a hankie. Deal with it.
2013-07-29 12:45:41 AM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: So you're saying this to the person who DIDN'T overreact?

Yeah, that makes very little sense, but maybe you're new to Fark, or on some really biatchin' meds, who knows?


Did you ever start to get that feeling you were trolled?

It should be setting in here as soon as you finish reading this sentence.

/hint: Stop taking people so seriously. Especially on FARK.
2013-07-29 12:33:02 AM
1 votes:
Wait, what? The guy who has Nazi Tourette's Syndrome actually collects Nazi memorabilia?

The hell you say!

/LB: "Glenn Beck plays "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, except there's just one degree and Kevin Bacon is Hitler"
2013-07-29 12:32:50 AM
1 votes:

Thurston Howell: People are not troubled because he collects Nazi memorabilia; they are troubled because of specific memorabilia items.  Letters from Göring to Heydrich advising him to work on a solution to the "Jewish problem"?  Put that in an archive; it's evidence of intent.  Heydrich's orders to commence  Operation Reinhard?  Evidence of intention and action to murder millions; save that too.  The world needs that kind of proof.  Photos of the constructed deatrh camps, and the physical infrastructure of the camps themselves?  Preserve that; it's part of the chain of evidence.


Point of clarification:  These things are not, to my knowledge, part of the exhibit.  I phrased this section inelegantly.  If Beck had such items, we would more readily understand the significance and importance.  It's harder to understand the significance of purely personal items (hanky, love letters) that shed no new light on the personalities or actions of the original owners.  ie. the historical record has not indicated to this point that Göring never loved his wife, or that Hitler never used a handkerchief.
2013-07-29 12:32:45 AM
1 votes:

brainiac-dumdum: a satin handkerchief browned with Hitler's blood.

That's almost more like a relic (using the "body parts of saints kept for reasons of worship" definition) than memorabilia.


its really really creepy.
2013-07-29 12:11:25 AM
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Dahnkster: Knew that was one of the LaRouche douche crowd before opening the links. The guys does the same thing when he goes on vacation. Was down in Destin a couple months ago and spent his entire Florida panhandle vacation hanging out at the Destin post office with a buddy holding the same sign. Even sadder, he got a lot of car honking support from the local yokels because of his Hitler Fartbongo patriotism. You can't fix stupid.

I've seen someone with that sign, or something similar, handing out papers in Illinois.
2013-07-28 11:56:20 PM
1 votes:

Speef: His Very Private collection, which he wears at all times, includes Hitler's favorite pair of crotchless  panties, and  Goering's ceremonial dress nipple clamps.


Wait, wait, wait, are you trying to tell me Glenn Beck is a lumberjack?
2013-07-28 11:56:01 PM
1 votes:

ciberido: Epicfarker: That blood soaked handkerchief was Hitler's. It most definitely did not belong to a young woman who was raped and murdered in 1990.

Are you suggesting that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a Nazi in 1990?


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2013-07-28 11:55:02 PM
1 votes:

Mugato: Slartibartfaster: OnlyM3: More whining from the left. Who gives a fark

NAZI is national socialist
just saying n all
cuz ya know - dont want anyone to be buttfark ignorant

That's what conservatives actually believe. Except when they don't.

/even more "left", "libs" bullshiat than usual today


I think  OnlyM3 is Glenn Beck's alt.  Or rather, the account belonged to an intelligent young woman who was raped and murdered in 1990, after which it became Glenn Beck's alt.  Not that I'm implying any sort of connection, you understand.  I'm just saying first one thing happened, and then another thing did.
2013-07-28 11:54:04 PM
1 votes:

pedobearapproved: Marshal805: stonelotus: still better than being a brony.

You mean running around peddling lies & half truths for a profit while having a messianic complex is better than being a fan of children's cartoon?


Um, okay.

When you're over 15, yes. At least he's making money from his weirdo backward belief system

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(Sigh)

Here's the thing.


1.) Beck (stupid as he is) can actually convince people to vote for certain candidates.

2.) The candidates he likes tend to be of the Bachmann/Santorum variety.

3) Having candidates  of that variety in places of power tend to lead to having the kind of inept, incompetent, hyper partisan Congress we are currently suffering under.

Get the picture?
2013-07-28 11:50:36 PM
1 votes:

Fissile: A friend of mine had a neighbor who was a WWII German vet.  This man corresponded with Otto Skorzeny, Hans Rudel, and Karl Donitz after the war.   My friend was given all these letters shortly before the old man's death.  I think he has 10 letters signed by Skorzeny, I believe 30 letters, post cards and such signed by Rudel and half dozen or so letters signed by Donitz.

Any collectors out there want to make me an offer?


Well hopefully the originals end up in a museum where they can be preserved as long as possible, but since paper eventually falls apart please get them digitized and sent to someone like  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HathiTrust so they can not only be preserved forever but read by anyone with a computer.
2013-07-28 11:48:27 PM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: I'm sure he was trying to be funny. Get the sand out of your vagina and try his post again.


commitnesstofitness.com
2013-07-28 11:42:14 PM
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: More than 70 old, most of the detritus of Germany's Nationalsozialisten was destroyed after the war and continue to be banned to this day. The survival of such "memorabilia" can only be achieved with help from Nazi sympathizers wishing to pass on the torch.

Or antiques dealers, or historians, or any number of people looking to make a quick buck on things their Grandpa brought back from the War.  And it's not banned in the US, you vapid twat.  Jesus - nothing like a knee-jerk reaction to look all responsible and mature about things.

That said... it doesn't strike me as at all strange that Glenn Beck collects KKK robes and Nazi banners.  Nor does it surprise me that he chose a semi-theocracy within the US as the best place to display them.  Seriously - you guys expect he collects Civil Rights memorabilia or something?


I did a fair bit of trading in war memorabilia while I was stationed in Germany. Not all of it was Nazi or even German, but the majority was. You can find some interesting items in attics and basements of homes owned by the same family that owned them during that era.

I know that some folks look down on people who are interested in such things. Just like those who look down on people who collect murder memorabilia. But, of the people I traded with semi-regularly, I only knew two people who were actually into the Nazi philosophy itself. Most were interested in collecting certain subsets, such as knives, uniforms, hats, etc... but they usually did not limit their collecting to any particular nation or era. These items, those that are authentic, have historical importance.
2013-07-28 11:34:37 PM
1 votes:
I'm part of the "not surprised" crowd.

I'm reminded, though, of my ex's family.

Her immediate family was Polish. Pure Polish as far as I knew. Her mother was very... "pro Polish" which is a kind way of saying "pro Aryan." At first my ex told me that it's best to hide my ethnicity. I'm half Mexican. I have brown skin, brown eyes, and black hair. I also speak with a General American (neutral, "newscaster" English) dialect, speak more French and Japanese than Spanish, and am the "Whitest Brown boy you'll ever meet". I'm a Wheat Cracker.

At first we told her that I was Hawaiian. We also hid the fact that we were dating at first. Her mother is also very controlling. In high school my ex was told, in no uncertain terms, that she was forbidden from dating this black boy that she liked. Her mother was very controlling and very much two faced. She tried to put on the perfect 50's house wife act in public but was a vitriolic, controlling, manipulative biatch behind closed doors. After her mother found out about us she tried, in various ways, to drive us apart.

Her mother tried to crate a stink over things that she made up and I never did. Her mother tried to act like she was delighted by me as if my ex was just using me to rebel against her mother. Etc, etc. After a while she saw that she wasn't going to be able to drive us apart, that I was here to stay, and that we would probably make a life together. At one point she said, in a depressed manner, that she felt bad for my ex as (since she was with me) she'd never have, "blond haired, blue eyed children." Which was extra funny/sad/annoying/hateful as my ex has hazel eyes and light brown hair. So, yeah. My ex's mother was a racist, pro Aryan biatch.

My ex's mother, aunts, and grandmother were born in Germany and emigrated to the US around 30 years ago. Her grandmother was pretty old and fondly remembers the time when she got to see Adolf Hitler in person.

I'm so damn glad that I have nothing to do with that family anymore.

/Bad breakup.
//Turns out the ex was as much of a two faced user as her mother.
///She just lied to herself about what she was doing as to not feel bad about it.
//Seven years wasted living in a one sided lie.
/I now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
2013-07-28 11:33:07 PM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: But we children had a way of digging into his most private parts, as all bad monkeys do.


Giggity?
2013-07-28 11:30:04 PM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: hardinparamedic: stonelotus: still better than being a brony.

At the point you consider being a paranoid, right-winged neo-nazi who is thinly veiled as an entertainer better than being a member of a cartoon fandom, I don't think it's that fandom that needs to reevaluate their lives.

I'm sure he was trying to be funny. Get the sand out of your vagina and try his post again.


I dunno. I think the case could be made...

/Oh, bronies? Sorry. Thought we were talking about cloppers. My bad.

i0.kym-cdn.com
2013-07-28 11:18:43 PM
1 votes:

Mikey1969: To start, I can't help wondering what prompted Beck to collect such macabre objects and include them among his personal belongings. What are the virtues of owning Göring's love letters, Hitler's signature or a few drops of his blood?

To be fair, history is history. If a museum had this stuff, people wouldn't think twice. It doesn't matter how important YOU think it is, collecting any piece of history, especially from an era where they tried so hard to wipe everything out, is important. Considering that Beck has apparently not tried to put any context to this though, seems to make it more about a personal collection than neutrally collecting things for their historical significance.


There's a fairly bright line between documenting history and fetishizing it. If the "curator" of this "collection" were a learning-disabled adult who found all this crap in his grandfather's attic, I'd be inclined to write it off as an accidental example of poor taste from an individual who would not be expected to understand the significance of the items, or the horrific taste in the manner which they were displayed. Beck is a well-educated author and one of the best propagandists of our current culture. He's quite adept in explaining the significance and history of artifacts and symbols, and using them to create emotionally evocative stories.

I can't help but be impressed by his talent and focus on his market. My recognition causes me not to admire him, but to feel a nausea which I can only compare with the sensations I experienced a couple hours after eating pasta contaminated with E Coli several years ago.
2013-07-28 11:10:06 PM
1 votes:
stopbeck.com

Old white people hold up a poster of this man, and scream "GAZE UPON A PATRIOT~!!"
2013-07-28 11:05:03 PM
1 votes:
Beck:  Tomorrow, I meet Sarah Palin and family for the first time. I'm actually a little nervous - as she is one of the only people that I can see that can possibly lead us out of where we are. I don't know yet if she's strong enough, if she's well enough advised, or if she knows she can no longer trust anyone...

test.axisofweevil.com
2013-07-28 10:59:24 PM
1 votes:

Kibbler: Dear Ilse,

My deares sweethear, today I bravely FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP

Sincerely,
Your dearest
Hermann Farking Goering


EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW here have a slice of vomit cake with p00p frosting you creep

/runs out of thread doing dry heaves
2013-07-28 10:57:33 PM
1 votes:

Fissile: StreetlightInTheGhetto: mbillips: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Slartibartfaster: OnlyM3: More whining from the left. Who gives a fark

NAZI is national socialist
just saying n all
cuz ya know - dont want anyone to be buttfark ignorant

Newsflash re: ignorance: names are names, definitions can switch, and can be misappropriated to achieve certain goals.

Actually, the early Nazi party had strong socialist leanings. That was one of the major sources of tension between Roehm and Hitler; Roehm wanted an actual revolution to bring down the capitalists, and Hitler wanted more of a fascist-style autocracy with heavy government ties to privately owned corporations. Roehm lost that argument on the Night of the Long Knives, and there was no more talk about socialist revolution in Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany had much larger state involvement in the economy than "capitalist" countries, but the Fuehrer Prinzip is completely foreign to what the Reds were aiming for in their ideas of international socialism. Stalin had no ideology; he was just a gangster.

Defining state owned control / heavy government ties to privately owned corporations does not equal the definition of socialism currently levied against Obama.  And the current definition of a 'socialist state' is more about workers having control, albeit in theory, communism works.  In theory.

Anyway, my point was that current use of socialist as a derogatory term does not resemble what Hitler was going for, initially and especially later in the party.   But you are technically correct and in that sense I appreciate your post.  And totally agree about Stalin.  I can have a begrudging respect for Lenin sometimes, - *sometimes*, - but not Stalin.

============

You believe that Hitler would have had any use for American style capitalism?    Had Nazi Germany defeated the USA,  I'm pretty sure Hitler would have had the Wall St types marched off to death camps in New Jersey.


My grandfather lived in pre-Third Reich Germany, between the wars, before he went to America (had my dad incredibly old).  Most of his friends, who were the workers rights type, got shuffled off to random camps by the Nazis when they came into power.  Agitators, etc.  Whereas my grandfather was relatively lucky in just having to fight for basic workers rights when he was in the US.

So if the Wall St types agreed to be a means to an end?  Certainly I can see them being an active and willing part of the regime.  Sycophantic yes-men and all.
2013-07-28 10:41:51 PM
1 votes:

Space Station Wagon: stonelotus: still better than being a brony.

This


It's nice to know in times of disagreement there are common points that we as a community can all adhere to.

Nevertheless, I feel compelled to post this:

imgs.xkcd.com

/furries, bronys, same difference

[ducks]
2013-07-28 10:39:20 PM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: stonelotus: still better than being a brony.

At the point you consider being a paranoid, right-winged neo-nazi who is thinly veiled as an entertainer better than being a member of a cartoon fandom, I don't think it's that fandom that needs to reevaluate their lives.


At least the Nazis were snappy dressers. On the other side, we have this:

1.bp.blogspot.com

Min you, we also apparently have this:

(Perhaps NSFW)
So I guess it's a tossup.
2013-07-28 10:32:57 PM
1 votes:
I need context is any of the collection screen props from the sound of music becouse then it wold be ok
2013-07-28 10:32:26 PM
1 votes:
For no particular reason:

9.asset.soup.io
2013-07-28 10:31:09 PM
1 votes:

CheetahOlivetti: Does Beck also have his own Barbie museum?


What you did there, I see it...
2013-07-28 10:30:52 PM
1 votes:
www.soundonsight.org
Approves.
2013-07-28 10:30:52 PM
1 votes:

Fissile: Mugato: Slartibartfaster: OnlyM3: More whining from the left. Who gives a fark

NAZI is national socialist
just saying n all
cuz ya know - dont want anyone to be buttfark ignorant

That's what conservatives actually believe. Except when they don't.

/even more "left", "libs" bullshiat than usual today

================

Yup, guys like Beck are tards, schizo, or both.

Beck goes on about how big government sucks, while admiring Nazi Germany, which was all about centralized big government.

The term Nazi is a portmanteau of national and socialist.   Education or job training were guaranteed to all Germans during the Nazi regime.   Universal health care was instituted for all Germans.  Job protections, including paid vacations, and old age pensions were guaranteed.  The Nazis undertook massive public works projects, including mass transit and construction of the autobahn.  On and on it went.  This is what Hitler had to say about capitalism: "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."Hitler thought more highly of the Soviets than he did of the Americans.


Yes, but when it came down to acts rather than words, Hitler kowtowed to the Krupps and Siemenses of Germany. Hitler knew that the army and the major corporate owners could destroy him, and he coopted them while still talking a lot of noise about destroying "capitalism." Nazi Germany had a large "socialist" public sector (like every modern country today), but they weren't anything like the Soviet Union.
2013-07-28 10:27:26 PM
1 votes:
Anyone who didn't see this coming, please take ten more steps to the right.
2013-07-28 10:19:29 PM
1 votes:

Mugato: Slartibartfaster: OnlyM3: More whining from the left. Who gives a fark

NAZI is national socialist
just saying n all
cuz ya know - dont want anyone to be buttfark ignorant

That's what conservatives actually believe. Except when they don't.

/even more "left", "libs" bullshiat than usual today


================

Yup, guys like Beck are tards, schizo, or both.

Beck goes on about how big government sucks, while admiring Nazi Germany, which was all about centralized big government.

The term Nazi is a portmanteau of national and socialist.   Education or job training were guaranteed to all Germans during the Nazi regime.   Universal health care was instituted for all Germans.  Job protections, including paid vacations, and old age pensions were guaranteed.  The Nazis undertook massive public works projects, including mass transit and construction of the autobahn.  On and on it went.  This is what Hitler had to say about capitalism: "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."Hitler thought more highly of the Soviets than he did of the Americans.
2013-07-28 10:18:43 PM
1 votes:

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Slartibartfaster: OnlyM3: More whining from the left. Who gives a fark

NAZI is national socialist
just saying n all
cuz ya know - dont want anyone to be buttfark ignorant

Newsflash re: ignorance: names are names, definitions can switch, and can be misappropriated to achieve certain goals.


Actually, the early Nazi party had strong socialist leanings. That was one of the major sources of tension between Roehm and Hitler; Roehm wanted an actual revolution to bring down the capitalists, and Hitler wanted more of a fascist-style autocracy with heavy government ties to privately owned corporations. Roehm lost that argument on the Night of the Long Knives, and there was no more talk about socialist revolution in Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany had much larger state involvement in the economy than "capitalist" countries, but the Fuehrer Prinzip is completely foreign to what the Reds were aiming for in their ideas of international socialism. Stalin had no ideology; he was just a gangster.
2013-07-28 10:16:53 PM
1 votes:
True story:  I knew this guy whose dad collected Nazi stuff.  He had this office that had a Nazi flag and a big Nazi eagle on the desk and whatnot.  It was pretty cool in a morbid way.

So, he used to trap squirrels and kill them by putting them in a bag and wrapping it around the tailpipe of his Cadillac.  Basically, he had a Treblinka for squirrels.

I threw up in his Nazi trashcan when I was 19.  Good times.
2013-07-28 10:16:01 PM
1 votes:

stonelotus: still better than being a brony.


fc02.deviantart.net
2013-07-28 10:15:04 PM
1 votes:

gaspode: There are genuine historic collections which contain items who's original owner was wicked, and then there is having a signed copy of Mein Kampf and a sample of Hitler's blood......


I think we have a moment of clarity here.

/also, f*ck Glenn Beck and anyone who smells like him
2013-07-28 10:13:25 PM
1 votes:
Rick Harrison has a good policy on that kind of Nazi crap. "I don't want it in my shop."

Funny how the guys selling Nazi memorabilia at gun shows always seem to have Klan stuff and racist anti-Obama bumper stickers.
2013-07-28 10:07:32 PM
1 votes:

brainiac-dumdum: a satin handkerchief browned with Hitler's blood.

That's almost more like a relic (using the "body parts of saints kept for reasons of worship" definition) than memorabilia.


↑↑↑  A thousand times this.

The bloody hankie and Göring's love letters are what push it from the realm of scholarly interest to "why in the wide, wide world of sports would you want such a thing?!"

/and no, not surprised by the memorabilia.  Surprised by the relics though.
2013-07-28 10:01:11 PM
1 votes:

Fissile: Not defending Beck in any way, but Lemmy from Motorhead, David Bowie and Mick Jagger all have collections of Nazi stuff.


Yeah, but it's a thing among rock stars (and Lemmy) to collect wacky shiat.


Beck regularly makes Nazi comparisons to things on his show, dresses up like one for book covers, and now has this.
2013-07-28 09:58:14 PM
1 votes:
Not defending Beck in any way, but Lemmy from Motorhead, David Bowie and Mick Jagger all have collections of Nazi stuff.
2013-07-28 09:54:55 PM
1 votes:
When Beck discovers all profits from gold speculation went to buy fakes for his secret shrine, it'll be just like when he found his valuable collection of celebrity porn was photoshopped.


americablog.com
2013-07-28 09:53:01 PM
1 votes:

gaspode: There are genuine historic collections which contain items who's original owner was wicked, and then there is having a signed copy of Mein Kampf and a sample of Hitler's blood......


Oh, so much this...
2013-07-28 09:51:55 PM
1 votes:
A friend of mine had a neighbor who was a WWII German vet.  This man corresponded with Otto Skorzeny, Hans Rudel, and Karl Donitz after the war.   My friend was given all these letters shortly before the old man's death.  I think he has 10 letters signed by Skorzeny, I believe 30 letters, post cards and such signed by Rudel and half dozen or so letters signed by Donitz.

Any collectors out there want to make me an offer?
2013-07-28 09:48:32 PM
1 votes:

grokca: brainiac-dumdum: a satin handkerchief browned with Hitler's blood.

That's almost more like a relic (using the "body parts of saints kept for reasons of worship" definition) than memorabilia.

Obviously plans on cloning Hitler. His plan all started in 1990 but he needed a body, preferably one that had been violated.


cinema1544.files.wordpress.com
2013-07-28 09:45:30 PM
1 votes:

Tom_Slick: The subject of Nazi memorabilia is a weird one for me, on the one hand it is important these artifacts are preserved and displayed, on the other hand the private trade for profit of such memorabilia strikes me as morally wrong. However, I am aware that museums can't take and display everything so private collections serve an important purpose.  So I guess I don't know what to think about the collectors.

What I do know is displaying them at what amounts to a political rally, by a cut rate political hack is extremely tacky.


I feel the same way.  It's important, I feel, that we understand the rise of the Nazis and that we remain vigilant that the circumstances are never favorable to anything similar happening again.

On the other hand, this little display is a celebration, not historical preservation.  It bears no relation to any historical study of the matter, aside from the physical presence of the artifacts.
2013-07-28 09:39:53 PM
1 votes:

dj_bigbird: I don't have a Nazi captain obvious
[www.andyandnoreen.com image 406x541]


i3.photobucket.com
2013-07-28 09:37:11 PM
1 votes:

Kumana Wanalaia: Propain_az: So, he collects historic relics.  Who cares.  Untwist your panties and move on.

Yeah, I'm sure he's not a Nazi fanboy. Good luck with that.


Yeah. Say he liked knives and had a collection that included K-Bars (USMC), Sykes-Fairbairns (SAS) and maybe an SS Dagger and Hitler Youth knife, that would be a normal thing for a collector of WW2 memorabilia.

A collection of nothing but Nazi artifacts? Sounds suspect.

/whichever one GB is, fark him anally with a rusty chainsaw
2013-07-28 09:34:51 PM
1 votes:

Tom_Slick: The subject of Nazi memorabilia is a weird one for me, on the one hand it is important these artifacts are preserved and displayed, on the other hand the private trade for profit of such memorabilia strikes me as morally wrong. However, I am aware that museums can't take and display everything so private collections serve an important purpose.  So I guess I don't know what to think about the collectors.

What I do know is displaying them at what amounts to a political rally, by a cut rate political hack is extremely tacky.


Yep, that's my opinion as well.
2013-07-28 09:33:31 PM
1 votes:
Propain_az

So, he collects historic relics. Who cares. Untwist your panties and move on.[/qote]

^This. More whining from the left. Who gives a fark
2013-07-28 09:32:44 PM
1 votes:

staplermofo: I could see Glenn Beck in an old nazi jacket, the rest of the uniform strewn about his circular bed while he tries to combine masturbating and doing air guitar while staring at himself on the mirror on his ceiling.


www.mullocksauctions.co.uk
2013-07-28 09:24:53 PM
1 votes:

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: I've seen some pretty sick porn on this here internet, but you, sir, have just put the poop frosting on the vomit cake.

You disgust me.


It's less disgusting than when he talks, you've gotta admit that.
2013-07-28 09:20:48 PM
1 votes:
I heard he's got Rommell's buttplug, too.
2013-07-28 09:20:42 PM
1 votes:
They were simpler times, when the strong didn't have to wipe the chin of the weak! When the working man didn't kiss the feet of the poor and destitute! Today, we claim victory over falsehood, tomorrow, the world! Hail victory! Hail victory!
2013-07-28 09:17:44 PM
1 votes:
I think I saw this episode of Supernatural.
2013-07-28 09:16:05 PM
1 votes:

staplermofo: I could see Glenn Beck in an old nazi jacket, the rest of the uniform strewn about his circular bed while he tries to combine masturbating and doing air guitar while staring at himself on the mirror on his ceiling.


I've seen some pretty sick porn on this here internet, but you, sir, have just put the poop frosting on the vomit cake.

You disgust me.
2013-07-28 09:15:00 PM
1 votes:
If ~any~ article needed the Obvious tag, this one was it.
2013-07-28 09:13:49 PM
1 votes:

Propain_az: So, he collects historic relics.  Who cares.  Untwist your panties and move on.


Those were my thoughts, but you expressed them better than I would have.
2013-07-28 09:13:02 PM
1 votes:
I could see Glenn Beck in an old nazi jacket, the rest of the uniform strewn about his circular bed while he tries to combine masturbating and doing air guitar while staring at himself on the mirror on his ceiling.
 
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