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(Sun Sentinel)   So, apparently parasailing isn't regulated in Florida, which explains why there are so many deaths from it   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 34
    More: Florida, Florida Senate, Sen. Don Gaetz, Panama City Beach  
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2013-07-28 11:37:37 PM
5 votes:
Watch that video again and tell me no regulation is necessary. I realize that many of you basement dwellers have no concept of ever having a daughter, girlfriend or wife... much less one that is crippled or killed because the 'free market' can't be bothered to inspect towlines or allows teen employees to launch people into the air with less training than a burger flipper. And then when they do kill somebody or doom them to a lifetime of wheelchair-bound bedsores, they are not even held financially responsible. Why does it not surprise me that 'relatively few injuries and totally acceptable death rate' is the exact same 'logic' being offered up by the gunpetters when it comes to even a micron of responsible, common-sense regulation. The only slippery slope is the shiat that slides down you moran's pointy motherfarkin' heads. Gawdamned it, man... are some of you really this farkin' thick or is it just a bunch of farking gamers and teenage losers that think they are posting anonymous ramblings on Youtube?

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2013-07-28 11:27:21 PM
5 votes:

Great Janitor: Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government.  Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities.  I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.


That's not exactly how statistics work.
2013-07-29 02:02:00 AM
3 votes:
This thread is just packed with people who should not ever be allowed to compare things.
2013-07-28 11:13:49 PM
3 votes:

I actually witnessed one of the first parasailing deaths here in Florida (electrocution). The industry primarily consist of LLC's that hire teenage employees for minimum wage plus tips. As a rule, they are some of the WORST boat operators, constantly breaking 'No Wake' rules and racing through crowded tourist waters to get back to the dock to pick-up another boatload for the rides that cost $50-$100 bucks. Considering the thousands of these trips that take place every day the actual number of killed and injured is relatively low.
Good luck collecting your medical bills, much less a settlement with the LLC's and Florida's unfavorable tort reform.


The proposed legislation is taking place because 2 more girls were injured a couple weeks ago in nearby Panama City when their tether snapped and they flew into powerlines and a 13 story condo balcony and eventually crashing into the ground after striking a pick-up truck. They were hospitalized for the past 2 weeks and still doing PT


Here's some pics of how hard the impact was when they hit the metal condo railing....

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Here's a pic of the truck they slammed into on the ground.....


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A beach visitor even captured the incident on his cellphone.... (Warning some mild NSFW language on the videotape)...

OUCH!
2013-07-28 10:53:27 PM
3 votes:
6 deaths in over 12 years hardly seems like something worth getting worked up about.
2013-07-29 02:29:09 AM
2 votes:

Great Janitor: Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government.  Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities.  I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.


You can't really compare those odds to driving unless you account for average time spent performing the activity and number of people doing it.
2013-07-29 02:00:36 AM
2 votes:
Great, another thread full of "You farkers probably dont have a family member that was maimed during a beaver rapin.  You basement dwelling farktards   We need to hold the beaver rape operators accountable for missing nipples and such!"

 Dont try to fly from the back of a boat piloted by a farking carnie, you will probably be ok.  God forbid you dont have someone to sue when you get farked up doing something stupid.
2013-07-28 11:55:59 PM
2 votes:

Dahnkster: Watch that video again and tell me no regulation is necessary. I realize that many of you basement dwellers have no concept of ever having a daughter, girlfriend or wife... much less one that is crippled or killed because the 'free market' can't be bothered to inspect towlines or allows teen employees to launch people into the air with less training than a burger flipper. And then when they do kill somebody or doom them to a lifetime of wheelchair-bound bedsores, they are not even held financially responsible. Why does it not surprise me that 'relatively few injuries and totally acceptable death rate' is the exact same 'logic' being offered up by the gunpetters when it comes to even a micron of responsible, common-sense regulation. The only slippery slope is the shiat that slides down you moran's pointy motherfarkin' heads. Gawdamned it, man... are some of you really this farkin' thick or is it just a bunch of farking gamers and teenage losers that think they are posting anonymous ramblings on Youtube?


I couldn't agree more. people really shouldn't be dying from this. These operators are frequently skeeze-bags with no bonding or insurance. Something needs to be done that Will hopefully make it safer, and hold operators accountable for negligence.
2013-07-28 11:35:34 PM
2 votes:

Great Janitor: Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government.  Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities.  I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.


and this is why you are a janitor
2013-07-28 11:27:49 PM
2 votes:

Neighborhood Watch: How do you 'regulate' this kind of air sailing... and why?


Requiring injury insurance, for one. Why? So they can pay for their farkups when they fark up, and provide a financial incentive to run a safer operation.

/no-brainer
2013-07-28 11:02:45 PM
2 votes:
And I agree, there's no regulation needed here. There are hundreds of those boats up and down Florida, running every day several times, and 6 deaths sounds like a pretty remarkably great safety record to me. I bet more have been killed on rental bicycles.
2013-07-28 10:56:39 PM
2 votes:
On the plus side, hey, fewer Floridians!
2013-07-28 09:42:14 PM
2 votes:
YAY
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0 Regulation Zero
2013-07-28 09:15:22 PM
2 votes:

Jon iz teh kewl: it's like waterboarding another fun sport


Uh, that's wakeboarding. Waterboarding is another type of fun sport altogether.
2013-07-28 08:38:49 PM
2 votes:

le mew: As long as they don't ban it. I haven't gone yet.


It's really not very exciting, well unless you come loose I guess. Otherwise it's fairly peaceful, but it's not exactly a thrill sport.
2013-07-29 02:33:18 AM
1 votes:
Great Janitor : Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government. Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities. I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.

Stats tossed around like this are completely useless without a denominator.

IE, x1 people out of y1 total drivers die vs 12 out of y2 number of parasailers.

// I have avoided parasailing, it may be less dangerous than driving a car ... but it's more dangerous than skydiving, and if I'm going to go up in the air and do something dangerous, I'm going full bore.

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2013-07-29 01:10:05 AM
1 votes:
I'm sorry for the victims, but this is not the right time to have a national conversation about marine safety.

In the meantime, we can be sure the free market will efficiently weed out those parasail operators with the highest casualty rates, and those remaining will voluntarily adjust their practices to market pressures.
2013-07-29 01:05:10 AM
1 votes:
How about a requirement that each parasailing operator post a sign that says "Para sailing is not regulated by the State of Florida, parasail at your own risk."?  It could be something an existing business license inspector looks for.
2013-07-29 01:01:15 AM
1 votes:
20 injuries and 6 deaths in 12.5 years? That's less than the death and injury rate for golf courses in Florida (there were 16 in a similar period, for those to lazy to click and read).  Clearly these death traps need tighter, government imposed, safety regulations!  You know, for the children!  And for people with law degrees who are somehow still too farking stupid to realize that being towed behind a boat hundreds of feet in the air might be dangerous.
2013-07-29 12:58:31 AM
1 votes:

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: Neighborhood Watch: How do you 'regulate' this kind of air sailing... and why?

Requiring injury insurance, for one. Why? So they can pay for their farkups when they fark up, and provide a financial incentive to run a safer operation.

/no-brainer


If I am not mistaken, insurance is what drove the Haleakala downhill bike tours (Maui) out of business. (Uninsurable.)

Crazy wobblers.
2013-07-29 12:57:21 AM
1 votes:
Why is this argument making me think of Homer's Bear Patrol?
2013-07-29 12:49:26 AM
1 votes:
Gah, every time we go to the Gulf my daughter hits me up to go parasailing. No way, not happening. I need to show her the video of the last mishap in Panama city. There should be regulation and regular inspection in that equipment.
2013-07-29 12:49:07 AM
1 votes:
Need (at least) a Six-Pac License to operate the boat. (Federal)
Crew has to be drug screened and over 18. (Federal)
Coast Guard inspected vessel. (Federal)

What more do you need? Federal Bureau of Parasailing?
2013-07-29 12:26:43 AM
1 votes:
Florida would save many more lives if they would increase regulations on driving in Miami. City of worst drivers in the nation. It's a fact.
2013-07-29 12:01:43 AM
1 votes:
HAY GUYS
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WAT'S GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?
2013-07-28 11:58:56 PM
1 votes:
And here the 'small-government' crowd reaches its end run at, "well hey, sometimes the invisible hand dictates that more than a few people get killed. A lot more people got killed during World War II, and yet everyone thinks THAT was worth it."
2013-07-28 11:55:55 PM
1 votes:
What Fark really needs is more full time sockpuppets to defend crap like this.
2013-07-28 11:44:46 PM
1 votes:
I think the insurance industry metric on this is injuries/deaths per participant-hour.   I'm guessing that one death every two years
   is kinda high.   It would be interesting to see the deaths-per-participant-hour stats for skydiving, scuba, etc, to compare with.
2013-07-28 11:29:04 PM
1 votes:

Great Janitor: Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government.  Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities.  I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.


I'm going to go ahead and guess that there's slightly fewer people going para sailing than flying or driving every year.
2013-07-28 11:10:52 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: "When you pay money and have your child go up over Florida's waters you need to know the state of Florida stands behind the safety of that operation," Sachs said.

What kind of a guarantee would that be?
2013-07-28 11:08:19 PM
1 votes:
I have an idea! Compare the Florida accident rate with similar states that regulate this particular activity. If Florida has significantly higher accident rates, perhaps some form of regulation is in order. If the reverse, perhaps other states should consider deregulating.

Or we could just make claims backed up by contextless statistics
2013-07-28 11:06:32 PM
1 votes:
Like the gentle rain the civic wisdom of Florida flourishes upon this great nation...
2013-07-28 11:01:24 PM
1 votes:

NephilimNexus: On the plus side, hey, fewer Floridians!


Nah, they are almost always tourists.
2013-07-28 11:01:08 PM
1 votes:
There had to be precisely 20 related fatalities before the authorities felt regulations were necessary.

Because 19 or fewer would have been far too premature, of course.

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