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(Sun Sentinel)   So, apparently parasailing isn't regulated in Florida, which explains why there are so many deaths from it   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 94
    More: Florida, Florida Senate, Sen. Don Gaetz, Panama City Beach  
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2013-07-28 08:07:20 PM
As long as they don't ban it. I haven't gone yet.
 
2013-07-28 08:38:49 PM

le mew: As long as they don't ban it. I haven't gone yet.


It's really not very exciting, well unless you come loose I guess. Otherwise it's fairly peaceful, but it's not exactly a thrill sport.
 
2013-07-28 09:10:06 PM

Confabulat: le mew: As long as they don't ban it. I haven't gone yet.

It's really not very exciting, well unless you come loose I guess. Otherwise it's fairly peaceful, but it's not exactly a thrill sport.


it's like waterboarding another fun sport

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2013-07-28 09:15:22 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: it's like waterboarding another fun sport


Uh, that's wakeboarding. Waterboarding is another type of fun sport altogether.
 
2013-07-28 09:41:15 PM

Confabulat: Jon iz teh kewl: it's like waterboarding another fun sport

Uh, that's wakeboarding. Waterboarding is another type of fun sport altogether.


ROFL
I was gonna ask.
 
2013-07-28 09:42:14 PM
YAY
1  Free Market
0 Regulation Zero
 
2013-07-28 10:53:27 PM
6 deaths in over 12 years hardly seems like something worth getting worked up about.
 
2013-07-28 10:55:41 PM
Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government.  Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities.  I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.
 
2013-07-28 10:56:39 PM
On the plus side, hey, fewer Floridians!
 
2013-07-28 10:58:59 PM
I wonder how many die each year, in accidents, on the way to Florida?
 
2013-07-28 10:59:11 PM
FTFA: "In the last 12 1/2 years, 20 parasailing accidents have resulted in 20 injuries and six deaths in Florida". OMG, six WHOLE deaths? And we haven't stopped this heinous activity?
 
2013-07-28 11:01:08 PM
There had to be precisely 20 related fatalities before the authorities felt regulations were necessary.

Because 19 or fewer would have been far too premature, of course.

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2013-07-28 11:01:24 PM

NephilimNexus: On the plus side, hey, fewer Floridians!


Nah, they are almost always tourists.
 
2013-07-28 11:02:45 PM
And I agree, there's no regulation needed here. There are hundreds of those boats up and down Florida, running every day several times, and 6 deaths sounds like a pretty remarkably great safety record to me. I bet more have been killed on rental bicycles.
 
2013-07-28 11:03:05 PM

Apos: There had to be precisely 20 related fatalities before the authorities felt regulations were necessary.

Because 19 or fewer would have been far too premature, of course.

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Ahhh.....Seems I got my fatality figures mixed up. Whatever: My point still stands.
 
2013-07-28 11:03:09 PM
Darwin in action.

I don't see a problem here.
 
2013-07-28 11:05:26 PM
I thought "well, some amount of regulation might be good"

Then I see 20 accidents in 12.5 years. Something tells me they are self regulated.

Probably because the operators eat their own cooking, if you know what I mean.
 
2013-07-28 11:06:32 PM
Like the gentle rain the civic wisdom of Florida flourishes upon this great nation...
 
2013-07-28 11:08:19 PM
I have an idea! Compare the Florida accident rate with similar states that regulate this particular activity. If Florida has significantly higher accident rates, perhaps some form of regulation is in order. If the reverse, perhaps other states should consider deregulating.

Or we could just make claims backed up by contextless statistics
 
2013-07-28 11:10:52 PM
FTFA: "When you pay money and have your child go up over Florida's waters you need to know the state of Florida stands behind the safety of that operation," Sachs said.

What kind of a guarantee would that be?
 
2013-07-28 11:12:40 PM
If I owned a Florida based parasailing company, I'd be blasting Dennis DeYoung's vocal intro to "Come Sail Away", looped, on loudspeakers, like a farking ice cream truck that plays "Turkey in the Straw", just to piss people off.
 
2013-07-28 11:13:49 PM

I actually witnessed one of the first parasailing deaths here in Florida (electrocution). The industry primarily consist of LLC's that hire teenage employees for minimum wage plus tips. As a rule, they are some of the WORST boat operators, constantly breaking 'No Wake' rules and racing through crowded tourist waters to get back to the dock to pick-up another boatload for the rides that cost $50-$100 bucks. Considering the thousands of these trips that take place every day the actual number of killed and injured is relatively low.
Good luck collecting your medical bills, much less a settlement with the LLC's and Florida's unfavorable tort reform.


The proposed legislation is taking place because 2 more girls were injured a couple weeks ago in nearby Panama City when their tether snapped and they flew into powerlines and a 13 story condo balcony and eventually crashing into the ground after striking a pick-up truck. They were hospitalized for the past 2 weeks and still doing PT


Here's some pics of how hard the impact was when they hit the metal condo railing....

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Here's a pic of the truck they slammed into on the ground.....


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A beach visitor even captured the incident on his cellphone.... (Warning some mild NSFW language on the videotape)...

OUCH!
 
2013-07-28 11:22:23 PM
How do you 'regulate' this kind of air sailing... and why?
 
2013-07-28 11:25:06 PM
It is still possible to para sail with a giant desert tortoise and consummate marriage at the same time mid air right? What? This is serious
 
2013-07-28 11:27:21 PM

Great Janitor: Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government.  Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities.  I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.


That's not exactly how statistics work.
 
2013-07-28 11:27:49 PM

Neighborhood Watch: How do you 'regulate' this kind of air sailing... and why?


Requiring injury insurance, for one. Why? So they can pay for their farkups when they fark up, and provide a financial incentive to run a safer operation.

/no-brainer
 
2013-07-28 11:29:04 PM

Great Janitor: Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government.  Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities.  I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.


I'm going to go ahead and guess that there's slightly fewer people going para sailing than flying or driving every year.
 
2013-07-28 11:35:34 PM

Great Janitor: Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government.  Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities.  I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.


and this is why you are a janitor
 
2013-07-28 11:36:09 PM

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: Neighborhood Watch: How do you 'regulate' this kind of air sailing... and why?

Requiring injury insurance, for one. Why? So they can pay for their farkups when they fark up, and provide a financial incentive to run a safer operation.

/no-brainer


And actually, by that requirement alone, the industry would become more safe - let someone else's profit margin (the insurance company's) determine what appropriate safety measures are.
 
2013-07-28 11:37:37 PM
Watch that video again and tell me no regulation is necessary. I realize that many of you basement dwellers have no concept of ever having a daughter, girlfriend or wife... much less one that is crippled or killed because the 'free market' can't be bothered to inspect towlines or allows teen employees to launch people into the air with less training than a burger flipper. And then when they do kill somebody or doom them to a lifetime of wheelchair-bound bedsores, they are not even held financially responsible. Why does it not surprise me that 'relatively few injuries and totally acceptable death rate' is the exact same 'logic' being offered up by the gunpetters when it comes to even a micron of responsible, common-sense regulation. The only slippery slope is the shiat that slides down you moran's pointy motherfarkin' heads. Gawdamned it, man... are some of you really this farkin' thick or is it just a bunch of farking gamers and teenage losers that think they are posting anonymous ramblings on Youtube?

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2013-07-28 11:37:55 PM

FreetardoRivera: Great Janitor: Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government.  Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities.  I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.

and this is why you are a janitor


Oh now that's just rude.  It's sanitation engineer.
 
2013-07-28 11:39:02 PM

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: Neighborhood Watch: How do you 'regulate' this kind of air sailing... and why?

Requiring injury insurance, for one. Why? So they can pay for their farkups when they fark up, and provide a financial incentive to run a safer operation.

/no-brainer




Compliance? How will that be paid for?
 
2013-07-28 11:44:46 PM
I think the insurance industry metric on this is injuries/deaths per participant-hour.   I'm guessing that one death every two years
   is kinda high.   It would be interesting to see the deaths-per-participant-hour stats for skydiving, scuba, etc, to compare with.
 
2013-07-28 11:55:55 PM
What Fark really needs is more full time sockpuppets to defend crap like this.
 
2013-07-28 11:55:59 PM

Dahnkster: Watch that video again and tell me no regulation is necessary. I realize that many of you basement dwellers have no concept of ever having a daughter, girlfriend or wife... much less one that is crippled or killed because the 'free market' can't be bothered to inspect towlines or allows teen employees to launch people into the air with less training than a burger flipper. And then when they do kill somebody or doom them to a lifetime of wheelchair-bound bedsores, they are not even held financially responsible. Why does it not surprise me that 'relatively few injuries and totally acceptable death rate' is the exact same 'logic' being offered up by the gunpetters when it comes to even a micron of responsible, common-sense regulation. The only slippery slope is the shiat that slides down you moran's pointy motherfarkin' heads. Gawdamned it, man... are some of you really this farkin' thick or is it just a bunch of farking gamers and teenage losers that think they are posting anonymous ramblings on Youtube?


I couldn't agree more. people really shouldn't be dying from this. These operators are frequently skeeze-bags with no bonding or insurance. Something needs to be done that Will hopefully make it safer, and hold operators accountable for negligence.
 
2013-07-28 11:58:56 PM
And here the 'small-government' crowd reaches its end run at, "well hey, sometimes the invisible hand dictates that more than a few people get killed. A lot more people got killed during World War II, and yet everyone thinks THAT was worth it."
 
2013-07-29 12:01:43 AM
HAY GUYS
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WAT'S GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?
 
2013-07-29 12:04:01 AM

Great Janitor: Yeah, because the answer to every problem is more government.  Six deaths in 12 years is one death every 24 months, so in short, safer than flying, driving, living in New York and Chicago and countless other activities.  I'd say that they are doing a damn good job at self regulation and government regulation isn't needed.


You have no idea how frequency stats work, do you? Try measuring against 'man' hours spent per activity and get back to us.
 
2013-07-29 12:14:21 AM
 Though U.S. government agencies oversee some elements of parasailing, no federal or state entity inspects or governs the entire activity from stem to sail in Florida.

So what I'm getting is, people are outraged that the government hasn't regulated this from 0.5 deaths/year to 0.0 deaths/year?
 
2013-07-29 12:20:07 AM
The government can't get the deaths to zero from activities like this even if they make it illegal. I'd like to hear how much safer they think this can get.

/Loves parasailing in the keys
//And sex
///And other delightful life risks
 
2013-07-29 12:24:37 AM
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It takes 3 days
 
2013-07-29 12:26:43 AM
Florida would save many more lives if they would increase regulations on driving in Miami. City of worst drivers in the nation. It's a fact.
 
2013-07-29 12:34:23 AM

namatad: YAY
1  Free Market
0 Regulation Zero


Big Parasailing must be stopped. If only they didn't run the markets and have all the money!!!
 
2013-07-29 12:44:48 AM
If they do regulate it, I'm so applying to be a parasail inspector. Driving from beach town to beach town all day, hanging around with lovely ladies, in a government job? Sign me up!
 
2013-07-29 12:47:58 AM
So what's like, that actual RATE of parasailing accidents? Florida is a beach tourism state, you're going to have a lot of stuff like parasailing and parasailing accidents. And what are the reasons behind these accidents? Negligence? Overweight customers? Territorial waterfowl?

Don't give them requirements unless you know that they'll be useful.
 
2013-07-29 12:49:07 AM
Need (at least) a Six-Pac License to operate the boat. (Federal)
Crew has to be drug screened and over 18. (Federal)
Coast Guard inspected vessel. (Federal)

What more do you need? Federal Bureau of Parasailing?
 
2013-07-29 12:49:26 AM
Gah, every time we go to the Gulf my daughter hits me up to go parasailing. No way, not happening. I need to show her the video of the last mishap in Panama city. There should be regulation and regular inspection in that equipment.
 
2013-07-29 12:57:21 AM
Why is this argument making me think of Homer's Bear Patrol?
 
2013-07-29 12:58:31 AM

Matrix Flavored Wasabi: Neighborhood Watch: How do you 'regulate' this kind of air sailing... and why?

Requiring injury insurance, for one. Why? So they can pay for their farkups when they fark up, and provide a financial incentive to run a safer operation.

/no-brainer


If I am not mistaken, insurance is what drove the Haleakala downhill bike tours (Maui) out of business. (Uninsurable.)

Crazy wobblers.
 
2013-07-29 01:00:26 AM

Confabulat: If they do regulate it, I'm so applying to be a parasail inspector. Driving from beach town to beach town all day, hanging around with lovely ladies, in a government job? Sign me up!


It will likely only pay around $150,000/yr and you probably cant retire until you're 45 and even then it'll be at just 90% of your last years salary and then they'll do something like tack on a five dollar co-pay for all doctor visits and prescriptions.

It's your life though, so do what you like.
 
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