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(The Verge)   Video game developer ragequits on Twitter after being called an emo hipster. Well he certainly showed everyone he isn't an emo hipster   (theverge.com) divider line 178
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2013-07-28 02:11:20 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-28 02:17:30 PM  
I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.
 
2013-07-28 02:23:52 PM  
Well, I've never heard of him or the game he wrote, that's a couple of data points right there.
 
2013-07-28 02:24:54 PM  
A quick perusal of Google pretty much confirms the guy is a hipster douche with a big mouth and inflated ego.

Only a matter of time before he tries to slink back into the limelight or tries to establish himself as an edgy artist in some other venue.
 
2013-07-28 02:25:16 PM  
The gaming scene will be better off without him. He made one fairly good indie game and then went all Kanye West on everyone. He alienated most of the people who helped him achieve his vision and, despite the fact that video games are supposed to be fun for the PLAYER, he's always made it clear that he's in game development for himself.
 
2013-07-28 02:25:36 PM  

Tommy Moo: I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.


At GDC, when asked earnestly by a Japanese gamer what the panel thought about modern Japanese games, Phil Fish stated, looking into the man's eyes, "They suck. You guys need to get with the times."

The rest of the answer is actually bearable, but Phil Fish is an arrogant asshole.
 
2013-07-28 02:31:40 PM  
Dude openly mocks families of people that have committed suicide. The world would be better off without him.
 
2013-07-28 02:33:42 PM  
This absolutely has everything to do with a Twitter fight, and nothing to do with the fact that the dev probably had been staring blankly at a Visual Studio.NET New Project screen for the past 6 months.
 
2013-07-28 02:34:00 PM  
I wish I could generate the energy to care, one way or another.  Everyone involved looks and sounds like an asshole.  Fark em all.
 
2013-07-28 02:54:02 PM  
Gaming truly will never be the same without this pretentious, egotistical bag of douche. I mean, how many developers of indie platformers could there be, anyway?
 
2013-07-28 02:56:47 PM  
I dunno, maybe gaming needs more raging assholes to generate press/buzz/attention to the people who actually make the games. Every face needs a heel, right?
 
2013-07-28 02:56:54 PM  
I knew this was going to be about Phil Fish before even opening the article. Haven't played Fez, though I've heard a lot of praise for it. But after seeing how much of an arrogant cockbag and whiner this guy is in Indie Game The Movie, I don't want to play it.Good riddance.
 
2013-07-28 02:57:46 PM  
www.retrospekt.com.au
 
2013-07-28 03:03:51 PM  
I never did see the acclaim for Fez. There's no real penalty for dying and the puzzles aren't complex, in my opinion. Although it did have good atmosphere, styling, and music.

Anyway, he's been an asshole and prima donna in the past and it looks like he's not changing.
 
2013-07-28 03:05:54 PM  
Saw him in the film "Indie". Seemed normal until about half way through and then he just started coming off the rails as a one of those people who create their own problems with their mouth, then whine they have problems and how unfair it is the world is out to get them and doesn't understand their genius.
If he kept his mouth shut in public and walked away when he wanted to rage rather than make a public display of things, he would have been ok.
Now? Just a no body who made a game once.
 
2013-07-28 03:15:23 PM  
Meh.  If he didn't code Wing Commander or one of the MicroProse games, he's a nobody.
 
2013-07-28 03:17:33 PM  

DaWormyPimpsta: [www.retrospekt.com.au image 485x292]


Oooh, nice reference.  Daikatana was such a massive failure that it accurately predicted the development path of future gaming giants like EA.

Truly, Romero was a man ahead of his time.
 
2013-07-28 03:18:31 PM  
 
2013-07-28 03:20:49 PM  
...and nothing of value was lost.
 
2013-07-28 03:22:27 PM  

kingoomieiii: Tommy Moo: I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.

At GDC, when asked earnestly by a Japanese gamer what the panel thought about modern Japanese games, Phil Fish stated, looking into the man's eyes, "They suck. You guys need to get with the times."

The rest of the answer is actually bearable, but Phil Fish is an arrogant asshole.


He may be an asswipe, but he's not wrong. Even on the PS3, you don't see games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, or Heavy Rain coming out of Japan. In the PS1 era almost all the great games were coming out of Japan, but I can't remember the last time I even played a game from a Japanese studio, and my primary console is a PS3.
 
2013-07-28 03:25:09 PM  
It's funny because I heard he spouted about how he was going to keep going despite the slapfight and just cancels the game anyway. Reminds me of people that go "I'M NOT MAD!" while shouting at the top of their lungs and clenching their fists.

Fez is a decent game but it's a shame the guy has to swell up with his ego and try to make himself the center of the Indie game world. Edmund Mcmillen. Jonathan Blow. The guys who made Faster Than Light. Those are guys that deserve respect.

It's funny that Jonathan Blow has also been critical against the gaming industry and what they shelve out. He got a little egotistical over Braid and even got a spot in the Sony Conference to show off his new game but he just seems way more laid back than Fish.
 
2013-07-28 03:28:34 PM  
If the neckbeard and white boy hoodie fit...
 
2013-07-28 03:33:41 PM  

Mad_Radhu: He may be an asswipe, but he's not wrong. Even on the PS3, you don't see games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, or Heavy Rain coming out of Japan. In the PS1 era almost all the great games were coming out of Japan, but I can't remember the last time I even played a game from a Japanese studio, and my primary console is a PS3.


Dark Souls? Metal Gear Solid franchise? just about every fighting game except for MK?

  Part of is that American and Japanese players are looking for different kinds of games.  There is some overlap, but stuff like Modern Warfare just isn't huge over there, and there are now enough American made RPGs coming out that the entire library isn't all JRPGs anymore
 
2013-07-28 03:34:52 PM  
Phil Fish is pretty much the most whiny shiathead in game dev, and that's saying a lot.

His consoles vs PC nonsense (before porting Fez, a vastly-overrated unoriginal platformer, to PC to make some extra cash) was quite dumb, to say nothing of his... um, unique approach to PR: "suck my dick. choke on it."
 
2013-07-28 03:38:27 PM  
i.imgur.com
I thank the indie world every day for awesome games like this.

... but not that emo hipster.  So you made a game people bought.  That doesn't raise the lumen output of your rectum above 0.
 
2013-07-28 03:43:02 PM  
Dude made a broken product (Fez), releases a broken patch, and refuses to cover the cost of fixing the broken product he is selling. The industry is much better off without a developer like that. In any other industry selling a product you know is broken and refusing to fix it is pretty much unacceptable, I don't know why he thinks it's ok for him (and I don't know why the industry never really took him to task for it). He may have a very corrosive and awful public personality, but it's his blatant abuse of the consumer that makes me say "Good Riddance."
 
2013-07-28 03:44:16 PM  
I installed Fez today and the game bugs out two minutes from starting up, so I'm not all that broken up that the developer isn't going to make another game. Enjoy my $5, asshole.
 
2013-07-28 03:56:05 PM  

TyrantII: [i.imgur.com image 850x661]


What funny about that is that Fez made more in one day during this year's Summer Steam Sale than its entire first month on XBLA.
 
2013-07-28 03:57:10 PM  

TyrantII: i.imgur.com


Now that's a backpfeifengesicht if I've ever seen one.
 
2013-07-28 03:58:33 PM  
And nothing of value was lost....
 
2013-07-28 03:59:00 PM  

Cpl.D: [i.imgur.com image 850x478]
I thank the indie world every day for awesome games like this.


Jesus, that thing's kind of a jumble. Is one of them Sandra Bullock and the other George Clooney?

/I jest
 
2013-07-28 04:01:00 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Cpl.D: [i.imgur.com image 850x478]
I thank the indie world every day for awesome games like this.

Jesus, that thing's kind of a jumble. Is one of them Sandra Bullock and the other George Clooney?

/I jest


The left is the RCS recovery tug and the right is the lander with Jebediah and Bob riding it down.
 
2013-07-28 04:02:40 PM  
Derek Smart, Derek Smart, DEREK SMART!

Phil, just look at what you've become.
 
2013-07-28 04:05:40 PM  
cdn1.sbnation.com

Wow.  It's too bad I'll be missing this indie game with the spiffy wireframe graphics.  Colored wireframes!
 
2013-07-28 04:09:00 PM  

aerojockey: Wow. It's too bad I'll be missing this indie game with the spiffy wireframe graphics. Colored wireframes!


It's like someone ported TRON or Battlezone to the console! Sign me up!
 
2013-07-28 04:10:20 PM  
i.imgur.com Forget that asshole.  This is now a Kerbal thread.
 
2013-07-28 04:11:14 PM  
i.imgur.com

Not a single neon wireframe to be seen anywhere.
 
2013-07-28 04:12:13 PM  

Cpl.D: [i.imgur.com image 850x478] Forget that asshole.  This is now a Kerbal thread.


How is it? It's still in alpha or beta and not officially finished, right?
 
2013-07-28 04:14:01 PM  

DoomPaul: Cpl.D: [i.imgur.com image 850x478] Forget that asshole.  This is now a Kerbal thread.

How is it? It's still in alpha or beta and not officially finished, right?


It's fun whether you like to play astronaut or you like blowing up rockets.

/why not both.jpg
 
2013-07-28 04:15:29 PM  
You know, the dude gets constant shiat from complete strangers 24 hours a day. I'd be a dick too. Fez was fun, he just needs to figure out the business side of gaming and he'll be fine.
 
2013-07-28 04:15:47 PM  

Mad_Radhu: kingoomieiii: Tommy Moo: I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.

At GDC, when asked earnestly by a Japanese gamer what the panel thought about modern Japanese games, Phil Fish stated, looking into the man's eyes, "They suck. You guys need to get with the times."

The rest of the answer is actually bearable, but Phil Fish is an arrogant asshole.

He may be an asswipe, but he's not wrong. Even on the PS3, you don't see games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, or Heavy Rain coming out of Japan. In the PS1 era almost all the great games were coming out of Japan, but I can't remember the last time I even played a game from a Japanese studio, and my primary console is a PS3.


Try this sometime:
ninokunigame.com
/hot
 
2013-07-28 04:16:34 PM  

DoomPaul: Cpl.D: [i.imgur.com image 850x478] Forget that asshole.  This is now a Kerbal thread.

How is it? It's still in alpha or beta and not officially finished, right?


Beta.  But awesomely so.  Get the demo off steam... free, and you can still fly to the Mun.

The game's adverts are seriously misleading.  It looks like a goofy game devoid of complexity or realism.  It actually has large amounts of both.

Newton is king in this game.  Don't think achieving orbit is something easy.  Landing on the Mun is harder.  And docking?  You gotta learn how to hit a bullet with a bullet.  But, there's tools in the game to make plotting orbits easier.

Also, watch Scott Manley's youtube video tutorial series.  They are accurate and concise.
 
2013-07-28 04:18:08 PM  

legion_of_doo: It's fun whether you like to play astronaut or you like blowing up rockets.


i.imgur.com I guess some of these qualify as rockets.
 
2013-07-28 04:18:16 PM  

Lego_Addict: Derek Smart, Derek Smart, DEREK SMART!

Phil, just look at what you've become.


Who's Derek Smart? My friends keep mentioning him and I dunno who he is. Apparently he made a WoW clone or something? Fill me in!
 
2013-07-28 04:20:34 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Mad_Radhu: kingoomieiii: Tommy Moo: I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.

At GDC, when asked earnestly by a Japanese gamer what the panel thought about modern Japanese games, Phil Fish stated, looking into the man's eyes, "They suck. You guys need to get with the times."
The rest of the answer is actually bearable, but Phil Fish is an arrogant asshole.

He may be an asswipe, but he's not wrong. Even on the PS3, you don't see games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, or Heavy Rain coming out of Japan. In the PS1 era almost all the great games were coming out of Japan, but I can't remember the last time I even played a game from a Japanese studio, and my primary console is a PS3.

Try this sometime:
[ninokunigame.com image 576x326]
/hot


Yeah, the Ghibli thing is just about the only thing that interests me on the PS3 aside from those aforementioned games... Uncharted, Last of Us, Heavy Rain.

Capcom's Dragon's Dogma was a breath of fresh air, though.
 
2013-07-28 04:21:59 PM  

Cpl.D: legion_of_doo: It's fun whether you like to play astronaut or you like blowing up rockets.

[i.imgur.com image 850x478] I guess some of these qualify as rockets.


That's not a rocket. It's a launchable oil refinery.
 
2013-07-28 04:25:38 PM  
"Those big things would never fly!"

i.imgur.com i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com

/Kerbal Space Program rules
 
2013-07-28 04:26:25 PM  
Yeah, like I'm going to believe him anything about going away and cancelling the game as opposed as it being a transparent scheme to bring attention to his game. Clearly.

The guy has FREAKING ANDY KAUFFMAN as his profile pic, are journalists/public really this stupid?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-28 04:34:47 PM  

rocky_howard: Yeah, like I'm going to believe him anything about going away and cancelling the game as opposed as it being a transparent scheme to bring attention to his game. Clearly.

The guy has FREAKING ANDY KAUFFMAN as his profile pic, are journalists/public really this stupid?



Clearly the proper way to deal with this situation is to forget about the forgettable person and then land some rovers on Duna.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-28 04:35:24 PM  

Mad_Radhu: kingoomieiii: Tommy Moo: I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.

At GDC, when asked earnestly by a Japanese gamer what the panel thought about modern Japanese games, Phil Fish stated, looking into the man's eyes, "They suck. You guys need to get with the times."

The rest of the answer is actually bearable, but Phil Fish is an arrogant asshole.

He may be an asswipe, but he's not wrong. Even on the PS3, you don't see games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, or Heavy Rain coming out of Japan. In the PS1 era almost all the great games were coming out of Japan, but I can't remember the last time I even played a game from a Japanese studio, and my primary console is a PS3.


All three series named are cinematic non-games that do exactly the kind of hand-holding they complain about.
 
2013-07-28 04:36:31 PM  
"Honk, honk!  Do you think you can give me a ride to the Mun?"

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-28 04:37:20 PM  
i.imgur.com

NOPE
 
2013-07-28 04:39:07 PM  

rocky_howard: Yeah, like I'm going to believe him anything about going away and cancelling the game as opposed as it being a transparent scheme to bring attention to his game. Clearly.

The guy has FREAKING ANDY KAUFFMAN as his profile pic, are journalists/public really this stupid?

[i.imgur.com image 523x337]


Did you just accuse video game journalists of being intelligent?
 
2013-07-28 04:45:25 PM  
What the fark is Fez?  Because it's not Rez, and Rez is the only 3 letter game ending in 'ez' that matters.
 
2013-07-28 04:55:13 PM  
Fez really is a great game, and it's disappointing that this guy is a real asshole.
 
2013-07-28 04:57:29 PM  
Remember the old days when the dev would get all pissy and self important and slap their name on top of the box?
 
2013-07-28 05:04:39 PM  
This will just give him more time to troll the Politics and Sports tabs.
 
2013-07-28 05:08:02 PM  
Sounds like he'd fit right in on Fark.
 
2013-07-28 05:10:46 PM  

rocky_howard: Yeah, like I'm going to believe him anything about going away and cancelling the game as opposed as it being a transparent scheme to bring attention to his game. Clearly.

The guy has FREAKING ANDY KAUFFMAN as his profile pic, are journalists/public really this stupid?

[i.imgur.com image 523x337]


He likes to think of himself as some kind of masterful troll, but he's actually a big whiny baby who gets genuinely butthurt over any real or perceived slight
 
2013-07-28 05:13:34 PM  

WizardofToast: Lego_Addict: Derek Smart, Derek Smart, DEREK SMART!

Phil, just look at what you've become.

Who's Derek Smart? My friends keep mentioning him and I dunno who he is. Apparently he made a WoW clone or something? Fill me in!


Derek Smart was the greatest asshole developer ever.  His legacy was a game called Battlecruiser 300AD, but the real game was provoking him to explode on Usenet and killfile you.  It was epic.
 
2013-07-28 05:14:40 PM  
Thread still needs more Kerbal.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-28 05:17:32 PM  

Cpl.D: "Those big things would never fly!"

[i.imgur.com image 320x200] [i.imgur.com image 320x200]
[i.imgur.com image 320x200] [i.imgur.com image 320x200]
[i.imgur.com image 640x400]

/Kerbal Space Program rules


Sweet lord my processor hurts just looking at that. Gotta dig up some screens of mine.
 
2013-07-28 05:19:09 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Sweet lord my processor hurts just looking at that. Gotta dig up some screens of mine.


PLEASE do.  I feel like Bob Kerman flying solo after Bill went EVA after deciding to attempt reentry without a ship.
 
2013-07-28 05:19:15 PM  
Mixed emotions on this one.
The guy made a fun game and he's got a talent for design, but he is also his own worst enemy and has one of the worst personalities in the history of software development.  He has a habit for burning bridges and is easily spun up into these kinds of suicide watch frenzies. I've got no clue what he's doing on twitter, much less dealing with the press.

He needs a handler and rule one should be to keep him away from other human beings.
He'd probably be happier that way.
 
2013-07-28 05:20:32 PM  
I get the impression Phil Fish just doesn't think before he speaks sometimes, and people troll him until he snaps because they want to get a reaction.I don't think he deserves all the hate he gets.
 
2013-07-28 05:22:11 PM  
Damnit, these are huge. Why doesn't imgur resize for me?
 
2013-07-28 05:24:31 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Damnit, these are huge. Why doesn't imgur resize for me?


If the file is ROKIT.JPG, add in an S, M, or L to resize like so:  ROKITs.JPG
 
2013-07-28 05:27:10 PM  

PanicMan: You know, the dude gets constant shiat from complete strangers 24 hours a day. I'd be a dick too. Fez was fun, he just needs to figure out the business side of gaming and he'll be fine.


The reason he gets constant shiat from strangers is because he was a dick to begin with. Other non-dick developers don't get constant shiat, because they're not dicks. This guy doesn't understand that you get back what you put out there.
 
2013-07-28 05:27:25 PM  
i.imgur.com
(Kerbal) SCIENCE!

 
2013-07-28 05:32:50 PM  

Cpl.D: "Those big things would never fly!"

[i.imgur.com image 320x200] [i.imgur.com image 320x200]
[i.imgur.com image 320x200] [i.imgur.com image 320x200]
[i.imgur.com image 640x400]

/Kerbal Space Program rules


Jesus H christ, certainly makes my 24 Orange can lifter look kind of pathetic :P
 
2013-07-28 05:33:17 PM  
I've been wanting Kerbal. Just concerned that it will become a huge time sink.

Is there any pick up and play here, or will I be hopelessly looking to remove sleep from my schedule?
 
2013-07-28 05:36:11 PM  

peteloaf: Dude made a broken product (Fez), releases a broken patch, and refuses to cover the cost of fixing the broken product he is selling. The industry is much better off without a developer like that. In any other industry selling a product you know is broken and refusing to fix it is pretty much unacceptable, I don't know why he thinks it's ok for him (and I don't know why the industry never really took him to task for it). He may have a very corrosive and awful public personality, but it's his blatant abuse of the consumer that makes me say "Good Riddance."


So I take it that you don't play any EA games, either?
 
2013-07-28 05:36:59 PM  

Virtual Pariah: I've been wanting Kerbal. Just concerned that it will become a huge time sink.

Is there any pick up and play here, or will I be hopelessly looking to remove sleep from my schedule?


Depends on your temperament.  Get the demo, it's free, and you can go to the Mun.  It's a good test.

Dip your toe into the black not-waters.
 
2013-07-28 05:38:34 PM  
i.imgur.com

/my biggest evar space station
 
2013-07-28 05:38:50 PM  
Have been considering Kerbal, but not sure if my laptop could handle it or not.

2.6 dual-core, 2gb graphics card...radeon something something M., 8gb ram
 
2013-07-28 05:45:59 PM  

Testiclaw: Have been considering Kerbal, but not sure if my laptop could handle it or not.

2.6 dual-core, 2gb graphics card...radeon something something M., 8gb ram


The single biggest bottleneck on Kerbal is the proc speed per core.  It only uses one core because the bloody UNITY engine it's built on.  They can't fix that, the unity folks have to.

But even so, it's absolutely worth the time.  I haven't had this much fun in ages.
 
2013-07-28 05:49:46 PM  

Cpl.D: [i.imgur.com image 850x478]

/my biggest evar space station


Curious have you solved the lack of being able to double-connect things without just resorting to strut-hell?  That's been my biggest hang-up thus far.

Testiclaw: Have been considering Kerbal, but not sure if my laptop could handle it or not.

2.6 dual-core, 2gb graphics card...radeon something something M., 8gb ram


You can tailor the graphics to meet whatever radeon it is, the ram is good, the 2.6Ghz dualcore (hopefully Intel) can stand up to likely a 300ish part ship before you'd have to mess with the delayed time to let the physics do its thing.  (the physics engine is single-threaded so faster core speed = more it can handle).  The reason I mention the physics engine is because as you add more parts it takes more effort to do its thing and the game has an unfortunate way of dealing with low frames per second with physics and that's to drop some of the calculations which in turn means some parts stop adding to your ship's ability to stick together, namely the structs.  As I mentioned though you can tweak it to let the launch actually happen slower then real time and give the physics engine more time to do its thing properly.  For *really* big ships this is pretty much mandatory, that's all.
 
2013-07-28 05:50:58 PM  

Cpl.D: Mentalpatient87: Damnit, these are huge. Why doesn't imgur resize for me?

If the file is ROKIT.JPG, add in an S, M, or L to resize like so:  ROKITs.JPG


Whoa, that's something useful that I never knew..

i.imgur.com
My first interplanetary mission to Laythe, parked in LKO.

i.imgur.com
And a better side shot of the engines.

That mission made it to Laythe, dropped the colony pod (not shown) into the surface, and stayed in orbit. Great success, lot of work, lot of fun.

i.imgur.com
And THIS bastard is the Minimus base I built in .19 (before learning how to turn off the UI or get rid of junk) It's 12 different flights all sent up, landed, and properly smooshed together by hand.

i.imgur.com
Another interplanetary flight. This one I tried Scott Manley's methods of gravity slingshots and got this space station in a VERY low polar orbit around Moho via a quick bank off of Eve. I don't think I'm building these things practically. That's 5 double stacks of the big ass fuel tanks with a 3 cluster of atomic engines on each. It got there, but I feel like I'm working too hard.
i.imgur.com
Eve sunrise and a short aerobrake.

i.imgur.com
Slowing down at Moho.

i.imgur.com
And the finished product, shrouded in the darkness of it's new home body.

Aaand my screenshots are spent. I need to take more pictures.
 
2013-07-28 05:51:57 PM  

Cpl.D: Thread still needs more Kerbal.

[i.imgur.com image 850x478]


LOL, you really like that 8-way symmetry setting, huh?

But, at least it gives you entertaining pix to share. My designs are all minimalist and boring, alas.
 
2013-07-28 05:55:32 PM  
Cpl.D:

Depends on your temperament.  Get the demo, it's free, and you can go to the Mun.  It's a good test.

Dip your toe into the black not-waters.



Here we go. DL'ing now...
 
2013-07-28 05:56:42 PM  

Cpl.D: The single biggest bottleneck on Kerbal is the proc speed per core. It only uses one core because the bloody UNITY engine it's built on. They can't fix that, the unity folks have to.


I'd also settle if they'd rejig things for the Nvidia Physx support to come into play if available, I've got three big beautiful GTX580 3GB editions and since I only play KSP on single screen I'd love to devote one of them to the task instead of one of my 4.8Ghz i2600K's cores.
 
2013-07-28 05:57:21 PM  
 
2013-07-28 05:58:08 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Virtual Pariah: Here we go. DL'ing now...

You're gonna need this guy and his accent.


Yup, that dude is both entertaining and informative for sure.
 
2013-07-28 06:00:11 PM  
Very nice, mentalpatient!   And Beowoolfie, nothing wrong with that, man.  Show pictures!

i.imgur.com

Minimalism is fun, too.
 
2013-07-28 06:01:11 PM  
Kerbal is a waste of time.  Please keep this thread to discussion of Phil Fish.
 
2013-07-28 06:01:45 PM  

Virtual Pariah: Here we go. DL'ing now...


Remember these two simple rules:

If it comes apart before orbit, add more struts.
If it doesn't go fast enough to get orbit, add more boosters.

Everything else is minor variation.
 
2013-07-28 06:01:56 PM  

aevorea: peteloaf: Dude made a broken product (Fez), releases a broken patch, and refuses to cover the cost of fixing the broken product he is selling. The industry is much better off without a developer like that. In any other industry selling a product you know is broken and refusing to fix it is pretty much unacceptable, I don't know why he thinks it's ok for him (and I don't know why the industry never really took him to task for it). He may have a very corrosive and awful public personality, but it's his blatant abuse of the consumer that makes me say "Good Riddance."

So I take it that you don't play any EA games, either?


Nope, haven't bought an EA product since they bought Virgin games and cancelled Thrill Kill despite it being finished, screwing the developers.
 
2013-07-28 06:03:21 PM  
Actually, this is quite on topic.  We're showing the contrast between a properly done indie game and one made by some emo douche who thinks because he made a few sales that he's entitled to radiate more than his share of butthurt.
 
2013-07-28 06:03:46 PM  

WizardofToast: Lego_Addict: Derek Smart, Derek Smart, DEREK SMART!

Phil, just look at what you've become.

Who's Derek Smart? My friends keep mentioning him and I dunno who he is. Apparently he made a WoW clone or something? Fill me in!


Have a look at  http://www.capsu.org/bc3k/2.html for a pretty good summary of the mess centered around Mr. (or is it Dr.? I keep forgetting) Smart.  Some of the actual flame war could probably still be dug up if you did enough searching through Google Groups, but lots of it existed on BBS, CompuServe, and AOL forums that have since been lost to antiquity.

Basically the game was being hyped for almost a decade prior to release, was unplayable (and I don't mean that hyperbolically) when it came out, and took something like two or three more years to get patched and corrected.  By the early 2000s when the original was available for free and the sequels were starting to dribble out, the games were playable, but were WAY too "sandbox" and didn't have much of a campaign.  Who cares if you can go anywhere and do anything if there are no actual goals?
 
2013-07-28 06:04:51 PM  
I wish I had video of this weird crash I had. Everything blew up except for this one little bit of structural wing. And it kept flying. And flying. AND FLYING. Eventually it made it all the way past that island with the other airfield on it, reaching about 430 meters in height and a speed of about 60m/s. Just a wing.

Lift seems to be a very buggy thing in this game. Check out some of the "flapping powered" infini-gliders.
 
2013-07-28 06:06:18 PM  
I knew exactly who this would be about when I read the headline, the guy is an insufferable douche.

Fez is pretty neat, though.
 
2013-07-28 06:10:49 PM  
One of the worst things I saw at GDC this year were people asking to take pictures with Phil Fish.  One of the best things I saw was someone photobombing one of those photos and yelling things at him like "asshole."  I would feel bad for the guy if it weren't for the fact that he is an asshole.

It's sad because I really wanted to play Fez, but his personality deters me from giving him money.  Also I know that it's broken and he refuses to fix it.

I think he thinks he's Jonathan Blow and he's really not.
 
2013-07-28 06:14:19 PM  
The casual racism on this thread is frankly disgusting. The commentors responsible have been reported to the moderators (you know who you are). Bannination will ensue.
 
2013-07-28 06:16:03 PM  

js34603: This will just give him more time to troll the Politics and Sports tabs.


... I lolled
 
2013-07-28 06:18:01 PM  

kingoomieiii: Mad_Radhu: kingoomieiii: Tommy Moo: I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.

At GDC, when asked earnestly by a Japanese gamer what the panel thought about modern Japanese games, Phil Fish stated, looking into the man's eyes, "They suck. You guys need to get with the times."

The rest of the answer is actually bearable, but Phil Fish is an arrogant asshole.

He may be an asswipe, but he's not wrong. Even on the PS3, you don't see games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, or Heavy Rain coming out of Japan. In the PS1 era almost all the great games were coming out of Japan, but I can't remember the last time I even played a game from a Japanese studio, and my primary console is a PS3.

All three series named are cinematic non-games that do exactly the kind of hand-holding they complain about.


The Last of Us is not a cinematic non-game.  It is a cinematic game-game.
 
2013-07-28 06:46:48 PM  

Mentalpatient87: I wish I had video of this weird crash I had. Everything blew up except for this one little bit of structural wing. And it kept flying. And flying. AND FLYING. Eventually it made it all the way past that island with the other airfield on it, reaching about 430 meters in height and a speed of about 60m/s. Just a wing.

Lift seems to be a very buggy thing in this game. Check out some of the "flapping powered" infini-gliders.


Yeah, I've seen those inifinigliders.  Quite odd.

There's another point of contrast between Fez and Kerbal Space Program.  You don't see anyone getting this enthusiastic over Fez.  You don't have people offering pictures of their beloved creations on Fez.

It takes a good game to build a little community.  Maybe Sir Onehitwonder McDouche the Fez programmer will learn that lesson during his brief hiatus.
 
2013-07-28 06:54:45 PM  
The emo hipster is in good company.

filmhash.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-28 06:59:32 PM  

WizardofToast: Lego_Addict: Derek Smart, Derek Smart, DEREK SMART!

Phil, just look at what you've become.

Who's Derek Smart? My friends keep mentioning him and I dunno who he is. Apparently he made a WoW clone or something? Fill me in!


Like others have mentioned, he's a game developer who would have big flame wars on message boards and chat rooms with anyone who didn't like his games. He claimed to have a PHD and he would send fake (I think) court papers claiming he was suing you. It's been a long time, so I may have that wrong. You can probably find some stuff on Something Awful. I think it was them who created the trailer for his best game, Desktop Commander, look it up on YouTube.
 
2013-07-28 07:27:58 PM  

DoomPaul: Cpl.D: [i.imgur.com image 850x478] Forget that asshole.  This is now a Kerbal thread.

How is it? It's still in alpha or beta and not officially finished, right?


It's pretty fun.  Most of the game is in building rockets, going somewhere with it, and then getting back home again (or not).  And building bigger things by docking smaller craft together.  There's not much to do or see on any of the planets, except for planting a flag and a few exceptions/easter eggs/interesting geological features.

It's also quite moddable, with lots available.  People can make dlls to plug in to it and such.  Like the Kethane mod that adds a scanner and mining tools and such to mine this methane-esque stuff to convert into various types of fuel, so you can do stuff like set up orbital refuelling stations with dockable/detachable mining craft that you can pilot down, deploy your drills, fill em with a full load of kethane/convert til your fuel is full, and then back up to the station/mining barge to transfer your haul over to refuel bigger spacecraft that need to go farther out.
 
2013-07-28 07:32:19 PM  

Mad_Radhu: kingoomieiii: Tommy Moo: I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.

At GDC, when asked earnestly by a Japanese gamer what the panel thought about modern Japanese games, Phil Fish stated, looking into the man's eyes, "They suck. You guys need to get with the times."

The rest of the answer is actually bearable, but Phil Fish is an arrogant asshole.

He may be an asswipe, but he's not wrong. Even on the PS3, you don't see games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, or Heavy Rain coming out of Japan. In the PS1 era almost all the great games were coming out of Japan, but I can't remember the last time I even played a game from a Japanese studio, and my primary console is a PS3.


Wasn't Ni No Kuni for the PS3?
 
2013-07-28 07:39:31 PM  
I've heard of Kethane.  Frankly, I've avoided it, but I could definitely use a new challenge.

And I'm a sucker for fuel depots.
 
2013-07-28 07:41:19 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
"Well... bye."
 
2013-07-28 07:51:22 PM  

Cpl.D: I've heard of Kethane.  Frankly, I've avoided it, but I could definitely use a new challenge.

And I'm a sucker for fuel depots.


There are also mods that require the Kethane mod, like one that adds some metal ore in the same sort of way kethane is and lets you set up your own launch platforms on other planets (or just in another location on Kerbin) and such that you can load ships from (by clicking on it of course) that require a certain amount of materials and such to build them (or not, I think it defaults to off on requiring electricity, fuel, and metal to build a ship).  So your Minmus base could have a launch platform that you could load one of those huge ships on and take off from there for a fraction of the fuel cost.
 
2013-07-28 07:51:36 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

The Yak laughs at his genius.
 
2013-07-28 07:53:01 PM  

jayhawk88: This absolutely has everything to do with a Twitter fight, and nothing to do with the fact that the dev probably had been staring blankly at a Visual Studio.NET New Project screen for the past 6 months.


How the fark do you know so much about my life?
 
2013-07-28 08:06:07 PM  
well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.
 
2013-07-28 08:14:54 PM  

Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.


Nah.

I haven't figured that out either.
 
2013-07-28 08:20:17 PM  

Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.


Virtual Pariah: Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.

Nah.

I haven't figured that out either.


Isn't it obvious?  If you want to go to space, press Space.
 
2013-07-28 08:21:39 PM  

LrdPhoenix: Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.

Virtual Pariah: Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.

Nah.

I haven't figured that out either.

Isn't it obvious?  If you want to go to space, press Space.


Oh, it also goes through the stages from the bottom to the top of the staging list one at a time for each time you push it.
 
2013-07-28 08:23:37 PM  

Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.


Virtual Pariah: Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.

Nah.

I haven't figured that out either.


Oh, and shift and ctrl increases and decreases throttle respectively.
 
2013-07-28 08:25:16 PM  

Mad_Radhu: kingoomieiii: Tommy Moo: I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.

At GDC, when asked earnestly by a Japanese gamer what the panel thought about modern Japanese games, Phil Fish stated, looking into the man's eyes, "They suck. You guys need to get with the times."

The rest of the answer is actually bearable, but Phil Fish is an arrogant asshole.

He may be an asswipe, but he's not wrong. Even on the PS3, you don't see games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, or Heavy Rain coming out of Japan. In the PS1 era almost all the great games were coming out of Japan, but I can't remember the last time I even played a game from a Japanese studio, and my primary console is a PS3.


I'm sorry, but MGS4 easily is one of the best games of the hardware generation
 
2013-07-28 08:27:49 PM  
You could tell from "Indie Game: The Movie" that this guy was unstable and is likely bipolar as hell. Whatever man...you made a video game. Good for you. Buh-bye now, you sniveling little he-b*tch.
 
2013-07-28 08:38:10 PM  

LrdPhoenix: Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.

Virtual Pariah: Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.

Nah.

I haven't figured that out either.

Oh, and shift and ctrl increases and decreases throttle respectively.


Eh...thanks.  Pressing space does indeed cause a sound.  So...how do I get the engines to ignite?
 
2013-07-28 08:50:53 PM  
Spacebar advances from one stage to the next.

LeftShift to throttle up.
LeftCtrl to throttle down.
X to turn engines off ASAP.

Arrows to steer.
 
2013-07-28 08:52:04 PM  
Also, watch THIS to get you up and running.  Don't be that guy that's too proud to look at a tutorial.  This will absolutely save you days.

Especially when you get to the point where you start to want to plot orbit trajectories.
 
2013-07-28 08:52:23 PM  

rocky_howard: Yeah, like I'm going to believe him anything about going away and cancelling the game as opposed as it being a transparent scheme to bring attention to his game. Clearly.

The guy has FREAKING ANDY KAUFFMAN as his profile pic, are journalists/public really this stupid?

[i.imgur.com image 523x337]


He is nothing like Andy Kaufman. Kaufman was subtle with his trolling. He never let himself become bigger than the joke, even when he stayed in kfab through his brief WWF career.

Phil Fish, the man who was suicidal because designing his claim to fame (Yes, designing, because he can't program and there were 3 or 4 other people who developed the game and did all of the hard work that he took all of the credit for) was too hard for him, is no Andy Kaufman
 
2013-07-28 08:56:35 PM  
To summarize:  Left shift to throttle up, then hit space to ignite the first stage of engines.  Further space pressing will go through the stages.

Watch the tutorial I liked to above to figure out stage designing.
 
2013-07-28 09:02:27 PM  

Lurk sober post drunk: LrdPhoenix: Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.

Virtual Pariah: Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.

Nah.

I haven't figured that out either.

Oh, and shift and ctrl increases and decreases throttle respectively.

Eh...thanks.  Pressing space does indeed cause a sound.  So...how do I get the engines to ignite?


In the spacecraft building, you can adjust your staging on the right, the numbered list with all the icons in it, by dragging icons around between them or clicking + on a stage (when hovering over it) to add a stage below it.  The lower the number, the later the stage, so if you have 4 stages, 0-3, then stage 3 comes first, then 2, and so on.  At the bottom, you want to put your main engines and other things like SRBs that you want to fire right away, including any gantries (which will disconnect from the ship when the stage is activated) that you have put on for stabilization.  In the later stages you have things like separators and later stage engines and stuff.

Then, when you get it on the launch pad, press Shift to up your throttle to whatever you want (big spacecraft may want to start out a little low due to keep from falling apart due to G forces), and then Space to initiate the first stage, which if your main engines are in that stage, they should then fire up.

Might want to check out the Tutorial missions under the Start Game menu as well.
 
2013-07-28 09:03:15 PM  

LrdPhoenix: lets you set up your own launch platforms on other planets


Links pleasepleaseplease. This is something I really wish the base game did or will do in the future.
 
2013-07-28 09:07:44 PM  

Mentalpatient87: LrdPhoenix: lets you set up your own launch platforms on other planets

Links pleasepleaseplease. This is something I really wish the base game did or will do in the future.


This was the one I was thinking of: http://kerbalspaceport.com/extraplantary-launchpads/

But there are others.
 
2013-07-28 09:37:06 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Kerbal is a waste of time.  Please keep this thread to discussion of Phil Fish.


Holy shiat!  Mike Lowell is the voice of reason on this thread.

i1.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-07-28 09:45:26 PM  
thanks for all the help.  i had watched the in-game tutorials, watched the linked ones (and the game seems cool) but i just can't get it to work.
 
2013-07-28 09:53:22 PM  

blue_2501: i1.kym-cdn.com


I was trying to imply that Phil Fish was also a waste of time but I failed.
 
2013-07-28 09:58:06 PM  
Been working on the tutorials.

My PC is choking on the launches though. The transition from when you stop seeing the land is a bit much for my old pc.
Before that it's fine, after that it's fine.
 
2013-07-28 10:13:42 PM  
A) Fez is a tremendous game.  Apparently people above think it's all wireframes?  What?  That's entirely not correct.

B) Obviously, Phil Fish has a few issues.  Or more than few.  But "dude clearly has some emotional issues.  So, fark him!" is kind of a dick attitude.

C) Jon Blow's every bit as bad/sensitive.  He's just better at putting on a good public image face.  The fact that I'm concerned he'll show up here to correct me is pretty telling.

D) Watch Indie Game.  Mostly because Super Meat Boy needs even more attention.

E) Did someone in this thread really say Fez's puzzles are simple?  Because they aren't.  At least, not all of them.
 
2013-07-28 10:14:42 PM  
Nice hatchet job by the Verge here - of course they'd protect one of their own. Marcus Beer (and a lot of other 'journalists') should be getting a lot more shiat for this than they are.
 
2013-07-28 10:19:33 PM  

Dafatone: A) Fez is a tremendous game.  Apparently people above think it's all wireframes?  What?  That's entirely not correct.

B) Obviously, Phil Fish has a few issues.  Or more than few.  But "dude clearly has some emotional issues.  So, fark him!" is kind of a dick attitude.

C) Jon Blow's every bit as bad/sensitive.  He's just better at putting on a good public image face.  The fact that I'm concerned he'll show up here to correct me is pretty telling.

D) Watch Indie Game.  Mostly because Super Meat Boy needs even more attention.

E) Did someone in this thread really say Fez's puzzles are simple?  Because they aren't.  At least, not all of them.


None of these nullify the negative karma he gets from acting like an entitled asshole.  The heat he's getting is a direct result from acting like an entitled asshole.   For him to not catch heat, the first and most obvious step would be not acting like an entitled asshole.

There is no other first step.  Where this goes rests entirely on him.
 
2013-07-28 10:23:52 PM  
Dafatone:
D) Watch Indie Game.  Mostly because Super Meat Boy needs even more attention.

I watched it primarily for the Edmund McMillen parts. Wish that it was produced while he and Florian were working on The Binding of Isaac which, IMO, is a fantastic game.
 
2013-07-28 10:25:21 PM  

Cpl.D: Dafatone: A) Fez is a tremendous game.  Apparently people above think it's all wireframes?  What?  That's entirely not correct.

B) Obviously, Phil Fish has a few issues.  Or more than few.  But "dude clearly has some emotional issues.  So, fark him!" is kind of a dick attitude.

C) Jon Blow's every bit as bad/sensitive.  He's just better at putting on a good public image face.  The fact that I'm concerned he'll show up here to correct me is pretty telling.

D) Watch Indie Game.  Mostly because Super Meat Boy needs even more attention.

E) Did someone in this thread really say Fez's puzzles are simple?  Because they aren't.  At least, not all of them.

None of these nullify the negative karma he gets from acting like an entitled asshole.  The heat he's getting is a direct result from acting like an entitled asshole.   For him to not catch heat, the first and most obvious step would be not acting like an entitled asshole.

There is no other first step.  Where this goes rests entirely on him.


"Phil Fish is an asshole" is a totally reasonable statement.

"I get that Phil Fish has some issues that cause him to be an asshole, and I'm going to claim to understand things from his point of view, but he's an asshole, so fark him" is not a reasonable statement.
 
2013-07-28 10:30:07 PM  
Since when do I have to understand someone that completely to judge someone is an asshole?  Example: If I see someone kicking babies down the street, I call him an asshole.  I don't need to punt four or five toddlers across the street first to try to understand him before I do it.

Sometimes an asshole is just an asshole.  It doesn't go any deeper than that.
 
2013-07-28 10:31:17 PM  
Nevermind, you were kind of agreeing with me.  Chalk me down for one comprehensive reading refresher course and an espresso.
 
2013-07-28 10:32:08 PM  

Lurk sober post drunk: thanks for all the help.  i had watched the in-game tutorials, watched the linked ones (and the game seems cool) but i just can't get it to work.


Post a picture of the rocket you're trying to launch.  Or try to launch one of the prebuilt ones like the Kerbal X.

Virtual Pariah: Been working on the tutorials.

My PC is choking on the launches though. The transition from when you stop seeing the land is a bit much for my old pc.
Before that it's fine, after that it's fine.


Try reducing the terrain quality in the settings, maybe turning off the Shader Model 3 terrain shaders.
 
2013-07-28 10:34:14 PM  
Or message me on the Kerbal forums.  I'm the author of the "I am full of grief and coffee" thread.
 
2013-07-28 10:55:35 PM  
I don't know any of the actors in this little drama, but please--

If you say you are catching shiat 24 hours a day (or constantly), you are a drama queen.

If someone ON THE INTERNET calls you various names and you can't consider the source, you are a drama queen

if you don't know how to block someone on twitter OR you give those 140 character control over your life, you are a drama queen sorry, a dumbass.
 
2013-07-28 11:05:03 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Mad_Radhu: kingoomieiii: Tommy Moo: I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.

At GDC, when asked earnestly by a Japanese gamer what the panel thought about modern Japanese games, Phil Fish stated, looking into the man's eyes, "They suck. You guys need to get with the times."

The rest of the answer is actually bearable, but Phil Fish is an arrogant asshole.

He may be an asswipe, but he's not wrong. Even on the PS3, you don't see games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, or Heavy Rain coming out of Japan. In the PS1 era almost all the great games were coming out of Japan, but I can't remember the last time I even played a game from a Japanese studio, and my primary console is a PS3.

Try this sometime:
[ninokunigame.com image 576x326]
/hot


I know I'm about a hundred posts shy of current, but I want to say: screw that game. I bought it after so many people violently shiat themselves about it being the second coming of Video-game-Jesus.

It's a lackluster game with 'old school' graphics. The story was embarassingly, cringingly, bad, and would have been rejected from a childrens 80's novel. The mechanics are 'we like Pokemon but can't come up with a decent battle system'. I loathed that 20+ hours in the game was still taking control away from me for 15-20 minutes at a time, and was STILL hand holding me so much it made me want to stab someone to death, AND it was still grudgingly doling out 'new abilities' core to the game.

Then I got a 'go capture some mobs' quest and it took me hours to finally say 'screw you'.

I can see how some people would really like it, and I think if it had not been so violently intent on hand holding me, or I hadn't spent 90% of the time I played it going 'well he's just having a dream or a psychotic break', it would have been ok.  I certainly don't get the hype.  I never got more than 20-25 hours in. Just bored the shiat out of me.  And RPGs are my favorite game, and I enjoy trash fiction novels, so I don't have high standards.

That said, aside from some huge AAA titles like Dragon's Dogma, or RPGs, what do you expect from Japan? Racing sims? That's America/Euro. Action? American. Fighting games? Japanese. Puzzles? Japanese again. RPGs? Split American/Japanese probably, with both being very different.

Bear in mind there's a decent pool of Japanese stuff that simply doesn't get translated into English because of the cost, and little to no American interest. Agarest war, Hyperdimension Neptunia, the 'Alchemist' games, wierd crossover titles using those two engines, where they made about 400 games with them.
 
2013-07-28 11:28:05 PM  
assets.sbnation.com
That is the worst haiku ever.
 
2013-07-29 12:16:46 AM  
Dude creates one game, and he suddenly thinks he's f*cking Sid Meier or Shigeru Miyamoto.

Just wait a bit, and that asshole will come crawling back. Based on his statements in the past year, Fish sounds like one of those guys who need attention like oxygen. Once he realizes that he's a nobody outside the gaming industry and is screwing himself out of the profits from Fez's sequel, Fish will delete his FB and Twitter posts, then act like he never threw a hissy fit and quit.
 
2013-07-29 12:25:41 AM  

peteloaf: Dude made a broken product (Fez), releases a broken patch, and refuses to cover the cost of fixing the broken product he is selling. The industry is much better off without a developer like that. In any other industry selling a product you know is broken and refusing to fix it is pretty much unacceptable, I don't know why he thinks it's ok for him (and I don't know why the industry never really took him to task for it). He may have a very corrosive and awful public personality, but it's his blatant abuse of the consumer that makes me say "Good Riddance."


The worst part is that the whiny douchebag tried to foist all the blame on Microsoft. The first patch he released actually made things worse enough to require a new patch, but MS charges developers a fee to release more than one patch. Of course, despite knowing this was in his exclusive contract with XBL, Fish b*tched about it anyway, saying it would cost him too much even though he made over a million dollars from the game. What a dick.
 
2013-07-29 12:36:31 AM  
Phil fish is a brooding art student that sold his first painting and suddenly thinks he's Warhol.  He needs to grow the fark up and maybe hire a PR flack because he is an absolutely shiatty face for his business.
 
2013-07-29 12:38:52 AM  
I'm sorry, but MGS4 easily is one of the best games of the hardware generation


I think you meant best extended cut scene about eggs.
 
2013-07-29 01:21:58 AM  
Never heard of him.  Too busy playing games bought off Steamsale.
 
2013-07-29 01:32:29 AM  
Can't root for either Beer or Fish in this slapfight. Neither one seems to come out good in this instance, but since when is it good for even a podcaster to make something personal by namecalling?

The best ragequits in a game is when someone can dominate a top player so badly that he just leaves. I can't understand it, I see a great player for a short time getting owned by another, and they can't take it.
 
2013-07-29 01:50:09 AM  

Frow: I'm sorry, but MGS4 easily is one of the best games of the hardware generation


I think you meant best extended cut scene about eggs.


MGS4 was completely unplayable. What a waste.
 
2013-07-29 01:55:42 AM  
I really like Tic Tac Toe. When are they ever going to release a follow-up to that?
 
2013-07-29 02:54:14 AM  

MrEricSir: Sounds like he'd fit right in on Fark.


I like the cut of your jib.

On another note, the guy said he was signing off because the gamer community is crammed full of belligerent little assclowns who slam everything that doesn't measure up to the lofty standards established by their favorite games ever, whatever the hell they are.  He also said they spew a constant stream of negativity into forums, Twitter, Youtube and any of those other services that I never use.  The fact that he comes across as a hipster douche on most subjects doesn't mean he's wrong on this one.  The average forum thread in a place like Blue's News is a festering boil of crap-talking that makes me be ashamed to associated with the community in general, and the "hardcore gamers" in particular.  The truth is they're sad, pathetic little bastards who can't create anything of value themselves, so they dump all over everything they don't like.

/half-drunk
//not wrong
 
2013-07-29 04:33:02 AM  

kroonermanblack: It's a lackluster game with 'old school' graphics.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-29 05:50:58 AM  
Heh looks like Monroe was reading this thread or just enjoying the .21 patch's stuff for the ASAS etc, this morning's XKCD:

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-07-29 06:23:05 AM  
 "Compare your life to mine and then kill yourself,"

I'm honestly surprised no one has picked up on this...

"Game's over, losers! I have all the money. Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves."

www.hwdyk.com

/That dog just lost 5 dollars.
 
2013-07-29 07:30:04 AM  
Hooray another platformer done in an 8 bit style. No one has ever done that before! Wow, a pseudo-3D game? No one has done that before either!
 
2013-07-29 07:51:52 AM  

TyrantII: [i.imgur.com image 850x661]


Quotes from that article: "PCs are only good for spreadsheets... Fez is a console game, not a PC game... This matters more to me than sales or revenue.  It's a console game on a console. End of story."

So I guess it was some other Fez that Steam had on sale a few weeks ago?  Didn't look that interesting anyway.
 
2013-07-29 08:18:45 AM  
Now I feel shiatty for buying it for $3 during the Steam sale. Dude doesn't sound like he deserves my cash.
 
2013-07-29 08:37:56 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: kroonermanblack: It's a lackluster game with 'old school' graphics.


Sorry. The game was specifically designed to look like 70s-80s animation, like the '78 animated LOTR movie.

And it looked astounding. But that's about the only nice thing I could say.
 
2013-07-29 08:52:51 AM  

Cpl.D: The game's adverts are seriously misleading.  It looks like a goofy game devoid of complexity or realism.  It actually has large amounts of both.


I got lost in the demo a few weeks back and decided against getting it, simply because I know I will never see the sun again. And i like the sun. It keeps me warm. Probably going to get it at some point, when I have more free time. How accurate are the atmospheric physics? When launching, I would try to replicate actual shuttle launches, so throttle back after lift-off until I reached upper atmosphere, then I would throttle up to conserve fuel. It seemed to help get me into orbit, but I was never sure if it actually worked or not.
 
2013-07-29 08:59:26 AM  

YodaBlues: Cpl.D: The game's adverts are seriously misleading.  It looks like a goofy game devoid of complexity or realism.  It actually has large amounts of both.

I got lost in the demo a few weeks back and decided against getting it, simply because I know I will never see the sun again. And i like the sun. It keeps me warm. Probably going to get it at some point, when I have more free time. How accurate are the atmospheric physics? When launching, I would try to replicate actual shuttle launches, so throttle back after lift-off until I reached upper atmosphere, then I would throttle up to conserve fuel. It seemed to help get me into orbit, but I was never sure if it actually worked or not.


Yeah, that'll work, at least if your engines get lower specific impulse at sea level than at lower atmosphere densities/vacuum.  If it's the other way around, then it'd likely waste fuel.
 
2013-07-29 09:05:10 AM  

YodaBlues: Cpl.D: The game's adverts are seriously misleading.  It looks like a goofy game devoid of complexity or realism.  It actually has large amounts of both.

I got lost in the demo a few weeks back and decided against getting it, simply because I know I will never see the sun again. And i like the sun. It keeps me warm. Probably going to get it at some point, when I have more free time. How accurate are the atmospheric physics? When launching, I would try to replicate actual shuttle launches, so throttle back after lift-off until I reached upper atmosphere, then I would throttle up to conserve fuel. It seemed to help get me into orbit, but I was never sure if it actually worked or not.


In terms of atmospheric density it's pretty good.  The lower, thicker air will indeed cause a powerful rocket to waste fuel pushing air out of the way if you try to fly it too fast.  Whether it's a good idea for your specific rocket depends on how it's built, but the basic principle is coded into the game.  Re-entry heat hasn't been added in yet, although the lighting effects are there.  There's a mod called Deadly Reentry if you want to have a shot at bringing a craft down against the extreme temperatures caused by compression.

The aerodynamics, on the other hand, are a total hack job that're due to be ripped out and re-written some time before the game reaches completion.  Lift is modelled very simply, and drag is merely a function of an object's mass, not it's shape.  So adding a nosecone to the top of your angular looking rocket is actually increasing drag because it adds mass to the rocket.
 
2013-07-29 09:31:43 AM  

Codenamechaz: He is nothing like Andy Kaufman. Kaufman was subtle with his trolling. He never let himself become bigger than the joke, even when he stayed in kfab through his brief WWF career.


Kaufman wasn't in the WWF.  He worked in Memphis.  This was back in the heyday of territories, before the WWF went nationwide; they were still mostly concentrated in New England at that time, and were still run by Vince McMahon Sr., who wasn't nearly as fond of "show business" as his son is..
 
2013-07-29 09:49:31 AM  

Slaxl: "Compare your life to mine and then kill yourself,"

I'm honestly surprised no one has picked up on this...

"Game's over, losers! I have all the money. Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves."

[www.hwdyk.com image 400x306]

/That dog just lost 5 dollars.


That just makes it worse.

/Should have said Bite my Shiny Metal Ass If he wanted to make a bender reference
//So people would farking understand.
 
2013-07-29 09:53:21 AM  

WyldKarde: The aerodynamics, on the other hand, are a total hack job that're due to be ripped out and re-written some time before the game reaches completion. Lift is modelled very simply, and drag is merely a function of an object's mass, not it's shape. So adding a nosecone to the top of your angular looking rocket is actually increasing drag because it adds mass to the rocket.


no. It increases drag because every part has a drag value that is summed together to create a total drag value.

That system was created in the days when the only parts were an engine, a fuel tank, a command pod, parachute and de-coupler.

Planes were never meant to exist in the game at all, but C7 went and made wings and plane parts, so they eventually caved and made a hanger for people to make planes in.
 
2013-07-29 11:02:54 AM  
I once pretended like I was going to hit Phil Fish and he pissed himself.
 
2013-07-29 11:03:46 AM  

Codenamechaz: He is nothing like Andy Kaufman. Kaufman was subtle with his trolling. He never let himself become bigger than the joke, even when he stayed in kfab through his brief WWF career.


I've become fairly impressed with how long Larry "the King" Lawler went along with it.  Heard him in an interview a few years back and he spoke how Kaufman wanted him to never admit the thing was staged, ever.  Lawler didn't start to openly admit the whole thing was staged until the mid 2000's, iirc.
 
2013-07-29 11:29:59 AM  

frostus: I really like Tic Tac Toe. When are they ever going to release a follow-up to that?


assets.nydailynews.com

They did, in the mid 80s.

Also, I wouldn't put much merit to Phil Fish's ragequit.  He also said that Fez would never be on PC.  He might of just went nuts so people would stop pestering him about Fez II until it's done.
 
2013-07-29 11:33:02 AM  

Cpl.D: Forget that asshole.  This is now a Kerbal thread.


cloud-2.steampowered.com
I will say, the Mun has gotten harder to land on in .21. I'm trying to get a Kethene driller up there, and while I can get it to the mun, lithobraking is not the best method of encountering the mun.
 
2013-07-29 11:47:25 AM  
Stay Classy, Gametrailers.
 
2013-07-29 12:37:53 PM  
I bet if you refer to Phil Fish as "the developer of Super Paper Mario, I mean, Fez", he loses his shiat.
 
2013-07-29 12:39:34 PM  

frostus: I really like Tic Tac Toe. When are they ever going to release a follow-up to that?


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-29 12:51:33 PM  

fluffy2097: Slaxl: "Compare your life to mine and then kill yourself,"

I'm honestly surprised no one has picked up on this...

"Game's over, losers! I have all the money. Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves."

[www.hwdyk.com image 400x306]

/That dog just lost 5 dollars.

That just makes it worse.

/Should have said Bite my Shiny Metal Ass If he wanted to make a bender reference
//So people would farking understand.


I think it makes him worse because there's a difference between making an appropriate quote from a tv show or film amongst friends, but a wholly different matter if you use it as an attack to an indeterminate number of people across the world. He is a giant dick for saying it, thinking it would make him cool.

I would also wager he would be happy if no one recognised it as a bender quote, because some people like to think they know stuff no one else does, so if they make a reference no one else gets then they're the best fan in the world. Or something.


Cpl.D: [i.imgur.com image 850x478] Forget that asshole.  This is now a Kerbal thread.


Thanks. I went and downloaded the demo, I've been secretly playing it at work. Just managed to send a doomed astronaut or two to orbit the sun for eternity. Next stop I gotta try and reach the Mun. No idea how I'm going to do that, if I make bigger craft it just wobbles to pieces on the launch pad or goes off course moments after launch.

I'm going to buy the full version in the hope that there are more modules and parts I can use to help.

When the pod lands in the sea safely how do you recover it and the astronaut? Or do you? Are you supposed to just terminate the mission there, or can you retrieve them?
 
2013-07-29 02:29:34 PM  
I'm not in touch with modern gaming, but saw him in that documentary, Indie Game.

He did so many things in that film that made me dislike him.
 
2013-07-29 02:53:12 PM  

theorellior: aerojockey: Wow. It's too bad I'll be missing this indie game with the spiffy wireframe graphics. Colored wireframes!

It's like someone ported TRON or Battlezone to the console! Sign me up!


I'd play either of those again before buying FEZ...  less buggy.
 
2013-07-29 03:54:04 PM  

Slaxl: Thanks. I went and downloaded the demo, I've been secretly playing it at work. Just managed to send a doomed astronaut or two to orbit the sun for eternity. Next stop I gotta try and reach the Mun. No idea how I'm going to do that, if I make bigger craft it just wobbles to pieces on the launch pad or goes off course moments after launch.

I'm going to buy the full version in the hope that there are more modules and parts I can use to help.

When the pod lands in the sea safely how do you recover it and the astronaut? Or do you? Are you supposed to just terminate the mission there, or can you retrieve them?


With the demo, it's stuck in some previous version of the game, so you just end flight or whatever and the astronauts you took with you pop back to be reused again.

You really don't need that big a rocket to get to the Mun.  A 2 stage with some solid rocket boosters and some sort of lander craft with it's own fuel supply to land there and return.  The hard part is getting out of the atmosphere and into orbit, if you managed to get some astronauts out of the planets sphere of influence and into the sun's sphere of influence, then whatever design you used is more than enough to get you to the Mun.  Getting down to it and getting back, maybe not, but that's something to worry about once you're there.

If your first stage can get you mostly to orbit, then you'll probably make it to the Mun before you burn up all the fuel in the second stage and can use it to kill most of your surface velocity before dumping it and using your lander engines to make the rest of the descent.

As for actually aiming yourself at the Mun, you want to do something like in the first picture here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohmann_transfer_orbit , and start on the far side of the planet from it, trying to account for the fact that it's going to move during the trip out there.  Well, really, you might want to start the burn when you're about at a right angle to the line through Kerbin and the Mun, and aim for the spot in its orbit on the far side of the planet from you, because it goes around pretty fast.  Though, if you can get an elliptical orbit that crosses its orbit, you'll probably eventually get an encounter if you just keep going around long enough.  Helps if you control the ship from the map screen (you can pop up the nav ball with the little tab at the bottom), because you should get a little visual indicator along your orbit near the Mun's orbit when you're going to get an encounter, and you can tweak where you'll hit the orbit by speeding up or slowing down until you get one.

Landing just involves slowing down until you're going to hit the planet, and then trying not to hit it too fast.

And yes, pretty sure the demo has fewer parts and more part placement restrictions than the full game, plus the full game has access to parts mods and such.
 
2013-07-29 04:09:12 PM  
I've found it very hard to land on the moon in Kerbal Space Program by "winging it."
 
2013-07-29 04:56:24 PM  

Crudbucket: I've found it very hard to land on the moon in Kerbal Space Program by "winging it."


Try Minimus first if you're not playing the demo. It's smaller (less gravity to fight) and has some nice flat ice oceans. Don't try to land by stopping yourself from high up and falling, try to come in at a steep angle and kill your lateral velocity when you want to drop instead. This saves on fuel and lets you plot landing sites better.

Also, something I haven't seen mentioned. USE maneuver nodes! Click on your trajectory to set up a node in a place, then use the controls to plot out a new trajectory. From there it's just a matter of placing the navball on the blue marker, waiting for T - 0 (actually, start early, nodes account for you being at full acceleration at 0) and burn until the green bar is gone.

And if all else fails, download MechJeb! The autopilot that should guide your craft in various ways, like takeoff and landing, automatically. There are also options to hover and plenty of buttons to align the craft.
 
2013-07-29 05:56:35 PM  

LrdPhoenix: Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.

Virtual Pariah: Lurk sober post drunk: well, that space game looks pretty cool, so i downloaded the demo.  here i am, at the launchpad, 3rd rocket, HOW DO I LAUNCH IT?
i realize i may be quite dumb.

Nah.

I haven't figured that out either.

Isn't it obvious?  If you want to go to space, press Space.


Well the game is obviously broken then.  I ordered a Tab like 3 hours ago and am still waiting...
 
2013-07-29 06:18:55 PM  
Is it possible to attach a space plane to a rocket when you've designed and saved them, or do you have to do it as one design?
 
2013-07-29 06:31:45 PM  

Slaxl: Is it possible to attach a space plane to a rocket when you've designed and saved them, or do you have to do it as one design?


I think there's a mod for that. What they need to do is let you save a craft and select it as a new "part" in the toolbox in the VAB. Not sure how much of a coding biatch that'd be, but probably a big one.
 
2013-07-29 07:26:43 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Slaxl: Is it possible to attach a space plane to a rocket when you've designed and saved them, or do you have to do it as one design?

I think there's a mod for that. What they need to do is let you save a craft and select it as a new "part" in the toolbox in the VAB. Not sure how much of a coding biatch that'd be, but probably a big one.


There is indeed a mod, its called the sub-assembly loader and it lets you save groups of parts (whole ships if you want) and then load them into another one to paste on.  I use it mainly to attach pre-built launching sections to new mission sections but I figure it could be used to combo entire ships too.
 
2013-07-29 08:35:37 PM  
I really need to play this Kerbal Space Program ASAP. Sounds like a lot of fun.

/to Steam!
 
2013-07-29 08:45:11 PM  

mooseyfate: /to Steam!


And then Youtube!

/trust me
 
2013-07-30 12:10:35 AM  

a flock of birds: kingoomieiii: Mad_Radhu: kingoomieiii: Tommy Moo: I have never played Fez and I don't care how many people say that it's good; this guy is an arrogant dick and I will boycott him for life. He sounds like one of those guys who talks just so much because he's never been made to swallow his teeth.

At GDC, when asked earnestly by a Japanese gamer what the panel thought about modern Japanese games, Phil Fish stated, looking into the man's eyes, "They suck. You guys need to get with the times."

The rest of the answer is actually bearable, but Phil Fish is an arrogant asshole.

He may be an asswipe, but he's not wrong. Even on the PS3, you don't see games like Uncharted, The Last of Us, or Heavy Rain coming out of Japan. In the PS1 era almost all the great games were coming out of Japan, but I can't remember the last time I even played a game from a Japanese studio, and my primary console is a PS3.

All three series named are cinematic non-games that do exactly the kind of hand-holding they complain about.

The Last of Us is not a cinematic non-game.  It is a cinematic game-game.


Yeah. I'll give you Uncharted and Heavy Rain, but Last of Us was a really solid stealth/horror/survival game, I felt. You need to play it on Hard though...
 
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