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(East Grinstead Courier)   Has the world economic crisis forced us to all give up ice cream? Struggling British ice cream van driver tells how he is making just £8 a day despite a summer heatwave   (eastgrinsteadcourier.co.uk) divider line 95
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2013-07-28 08:01:25 AM
Theeeyyy can't aaaa-fooord it.... cause they are on the weeeell-fare.
 
2013-07-28 09:27:53 AM
The fact that for the price of 1 ice cream bar bought from a truck you can buy a whole box from the grocer has always been enough incentive for me to not waste money on them.
 
2013-07-28 09:36:51 AM
There's an economic crisis?

Last time I checked we were in a recovery
 
2013-07-28 09:46:37 AM
cdn.twentytwowords.com

Maybe the economy isn't the issue at all...
 
2013-07-28 11:09:58 AM
So this guy is the only ice cream truck driver in history not to realize the real money in his job comes from using the route to sell weed.
 
2013-07-28 11:31:21 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Theeeyyy can't aaaa-fooord it.... cause they are on the weeeell-fare.


and his dad's an al-co-hoooolic...
 
2013-07-28 11:33:30 AM
Use this measurement as part of the misery index.


/you accept food stamps?
 
2013-07-28 11:36:03 AM
Stop me when I'm passing by.
 
2013-07-28 11:38:10 AM
Well, if this one guy is having problems selling ice cream during a heat wave, then it must be a worldwide problem due to an economic crisis.  Not because his van has roaches or he screams at the kids or his hands are filthy or his product is too damn expensive or...
 
2013-07-28 11:38:56 AM
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I blame Dave's Syndrome.
 
2013-07-28 11:42:06 AM
He only sells one ice cream bar a day?
 
2013-07-28 11:45:38 AM
The little snowflakes are inside in the air conditioning playing videos games. duh.
 
2013-07-28 11:46:29 AM

ReapTheChaos: The fact that for the price of 1 ice cream bar bought from a truck you can buy a whole box from the grocer has always been enough incentive for me to not waste money on them.


I like the LifeSaver popsicles. I can buy a box of 8 for 2$ more than the guy with bike cart charges.
 
2013-07-28 11:46:38 AM
The last depression showed that four types of stocks do well: cheap food, cheap entertainment, cheap alcohol, and government-subsidized businesses. My investments are doing pretty good. NetFlix, especially, has ben baddy, baddy goood, to me.
 
2013-07-28 11:48:03 AM
The ice cream trucks in Liverpool sold cigarette packs to the old ladies who couldn't walk very far.  I understand there might have also been ice cream in the trucks...
 
2013-07-28 11:49:26 AM

cman: There's an economic crisis?

Last time I checked we were in a recovery


On Top Gear from last week they went to Spain.  They still have massive unemployment. Whole towns of brand new houses empty.  There was an abandoned bankrupt airport that was only 5 years old.

World economy.
 
2013-07-28 11:53:51 AM

miss diminutive: [cdn.twentytwowords.com image 634x655]

Maybe the economy isn't the issue at all...




Is that Sweet Tooth from Twisted Metal? I spent many hours playing against friends my college years.

/Warthog
 
2013-07-28 11:54:06 AM
I like ice creams in the summer. But I can buy 4 in a supermarket multipack for less than an ice cream van Cornetto. So I do. Home freezers are the real enemy.
 
2013-07-28 11:54:13 AM
I don't know about overseas, but the ice cream trucks here in the US are beyond retarded (at least the ones in Wisconsin are). They drive down the side streets going 35 mph... how do they expect children (or adults) or anyone for that matter to run out of their houses fast enough to be able to buy any?
 
2013-07-28 11:56:36 AM

RickN99: Well, if this one guy is having problems selling ice cream during a heat wave, then it must be a worldwide problem due to an economic crisis.  Not because his van has roaches or he screams at the kids or his hands are filthy or his product is too damn expensive or...


Hold on, bub.  John Major is quite proud of keeping his prices low.
 
2013-07-28 11:57:18 AM

No.  I still buy ice cream, just not from an overpriced, sketchy pedo-bear looking thing.


Besides, around here Mexicans (not racist, a fact) ride around on bicycles selling paletas



Which are delicious.
 
2013-07-28 11:59:06 AM
When my family was dirt-poor, they could usually scrape up a few bucks for small luxuries like the ice cream truck for us.

It probably has more to do with the fact that they don't take credit cards. Lots of people don't carry cash on-hand anymore.
 
2013-07-28 12:00:06 PM

LordOfThePings: [upload.wikimedia.org image 150x150]

I blame Dave's Syndrome.


Dave's Not Here!

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Perhaps mr Ice Cream Man could get into other products.
 
2013-07-28 12:03:41 PM
Heelllll no I ain't gonna give up ice cream. I'm old enough to drive to a store and buy ice cream, as opposed to waiting around for a creepy pedo truck with the maddening jingle to roll on by.
 
2013-07-28 12:04:11 PM
The government has convinced parents not to let their out of the house or out of their sight. There's every imaginable danger out there including ice cream men.
 
2013-07-28 12:08:07 PM
The main problem is that ice cream doesn't exist, it seems to but within a few moments of time of one existing it doesn't exist and nothing makes it come back. I assume people have come to accept this and no longer chase the elusive butterfly high of sugar twisted with the droppings from a cow's breast, they probably prefer buying 'apps' for their 'phone'.
 
2013-07-28 12:09:01 PM

ReapTheChaos: The fact that for the price of 1 ice cream bar bought from a truck you can buy a whole box from the grocer has always been enough incentive for me to not waste money on them.

Bingo.

Ice cream trucks are a product of an age where your freezer was called an icebox and could hold maybe 1-2 cubic feet and the age when grocery stores had three flavours of ice cream.
 
2013-07-28 12:09:58 PM
Maybe it's because milk on a hot day was a bad choice.Csb time: there's a beat-up pickup truck that made its rounds where I used to live. Just had a guy hanging out in the bed with a gas station ice cream display cooler and a driver.
 
2013-07-28 12:11:59 PM
All the vans in denver have the same loud song playing over the speaker- a little ditty about 10 seconds long played on a child's piano- over and over and over and over- you can hear it for half a mile.

I'm not usually one to advocate violence. <i>But I understand</i> </chrisrock>
 
2013-07-28 12:15:09 PM
It's because we now all tell our children that when the bell is ringing it means the van is out of ice cream.
 
2013-07-28 12:15:58 PM

patiodragon: The little snowflakes are inside in the air conditioning playing videos games. duh.


This is the UK, so we have no air conditioning. Means it gets hot with temperatures in the 90s and a heat index well over a 100 day after day. Especially when you are used to much colder temperatures.
 
2013-07-28 12:22:22 PM

limeyfellow: patiodragon: The little snowflakes are inside in the air conditioning playing videos games. duh.

This is the UK, so we have no air conditioning. Means it gets hot with temperatures in the 90s and a heat index well over a 100 day after day. Especially when you are used to much colder temperatures.


So instead we just go inside where it's hot, and complain about how hot it is.
 
2013-07-28 12:22:47 PM

listernine: Stop me when I'm passing by.


www.dr.dk
 
2013-07-28 12:24:33 PM
If they took SNAP or EBT or VISA, they'd do a lot better.
 
2013-07-28 12:25:21 PM
CSS:

I drove an ice cream truck for three weeks one summer in south St. Petersburg.  I was instructed by the boss lady to concentrate on the "ghetto" areas, because the people there were more likely to spend whatever cash they happened to have.  Not saying that I support her repugnant philosophy, but I cleaned up on welfare check day.
 
2013-07-28 12:26:34 PM

cman: There's an economic crisis?

Last time I checked we were in a recovery


Not in the United States; the very definitions of "unemployment rate" and "inflation" have been unceremoniously changed to make the economy appear to be in "recovery".

Look around at real unemployment and the rising cost of basic goods, then which do you believe: Your eyes, or the government?
 
2013-07-28 12:28:19 PM
Yesterday, my 3 year old niece bought some ice cream from one of the roaming trucks.  Cost me $5, but the experience of buying it really made her light up and tickled her fancy.  Cost inefficient, but it made her day, and that's what matters.  I'll make up the savings elsewhere with scavenged tennis balls and cardboard boxes.
 
2013-07-28 12:32:20 PM
This is how I get my ice cream:
myauctionfinds.com
/cold hot
 
2013-07-28 12:35:04 PM
Cash business? Interview by the media? Tax officials watch media?

Yes, I only make £8 a day.
 
2013-07-28 12:35:34 PM
It's not the economy. It's the new paranoia. Everyone who drives any kind of vehicle through the neighborhood trying to entice kids with sweet treats is a rapist.
 
2013-07-28 12:35:51 PM

gwowen: limeyfellow: patiodragon: The little snowflakes are inside in the air conditioning playing videos games. duh.

This is the UK, so we have no air conditioning. Means it gets hot with temperatures in the 90s and a heat index well over a 100 day after day. Especially when you are used to much colder temperatures.

So instead we just go inside where it's hot, and complain about how hot it is.


There is no air conditioning in the whole UK? I know its cold usually, but that is ridiculous. Buy an AC unit, and a toothbrush you freaks.
 
2013-07-28 12:37:47 PM
FTA : "I have the best variety of ice creams. I have Mars, Snickers, five different types of Magnums and Cornettos..."

www.footydaft.com

One vanilla, please.
 
2013-07-28 12:38:25 PM
Nobody has given up ice cream.  They just don't like paying 5x the price to get it from a truck.  It doesn't help that all the ice cream trucks in my area look barely a step above that "free candy" van and are driven by what appear to be members of al queda.  Don't get me wrong.  I have nothing against the arabs but if someone is going to work in a job where they interact with the public it might be a good idea to try to look presentable, like by maybe, I dunno, shaving off the 3ft long beard and wearing something more than a bathrobe.
 
2013-07-28 12:40:09 PM

Sneakytoes: CSS:

I drove an ice cream truck for three weeks one summer in south St. Petersburg.  I was instructed by the boss lady to concentrate on the "ghetto" areas, because the people there were more likely to spend whatever cash they happened to have.  Not saying that I support her repugnant philosophy, but I cleaned up on welfare check day.


Also they tend to carry cash and aren't afraid to go outside. I've lived in rich and poor neighborhoods and I far prefer the kids in many of the poor neighborhoods, they play outside and have a good time, and stop the ice-cream truck. The rich kids stay inside and play their video games.
 
2013-07-28 12:49:08 PM
Do british ice cream lorries have loudspeakers? Do british ice cream lorry drivers enjoy having their loudspeakers shoved up their asshole?
 
2013-07-28 12:51:58 PM
Another sixteen bucks
Whaddya get
Two nutter butter bars
And a purchase full of regret
 
2013-07-28 12:52:09 PM

Ima4nic8or: Nobody has given up ice cream.  They just don't like paying 5x the price to get it from a truck.  It doesn't help that all the ice cream trucks in my area look barely a step above that "free candy" van and are driven by what appear to be members of al queda.  Don't get me wrong.  I have nothing against the arabs but if someone is going to work in a job where they interact with the public it might be a good idea to try to look presentable, like by maybe, I dunno, shaving off the 3ft long beard and wearing something more than a bathrobe.


Or, smelling like something other than the inside of a shoe.
 
2013-07-28 12:55:59 PM
MindStalker: I've lived in rich and poor neighborhoods and I far prefer the kids in many of the poor neighborhoods, they play outside and have a good time, and stop the ice-cream truck. The rich kids stay inside and play their video games.

Perhaps the odds of a child buying ice cream off a truck is somehow related to the odds of his parents buying lottery tickets.
 
2013-07-28 12:56:31 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-28 12:59:27 PM

Bob The Nob:


What flavor is it?
 
2013-07-28 01:04:26 PM

CruJones: No.  I still buy ice cream, just not from an overpriced, sketchy pedo-bear looking thing.
Besides, around here Mexicans (not racist, a fact) ride around on bicycles selling paletas

Which are delicious.


Motherf*cking this. I was at a birthday party for a toddler yesterday at a playground, and this guy drove by in an epic pedovan with ice cream music playing. He had scrawled by hand the words CANDY and ICECREAM on the side, in what looked like human blood. Luckily, none of the kids there bothered to look up from their toys.
 
2013-07-28 01:04:32 PM
In vaguely related news, I had my first Sonic peanut butter and bacon milkshake today.
 
2013-07-28 01:05:31 PM
Perhaps it's not the economy. Perhaps it's the flavors.

www.cardinalfang.net
 
2013-07-28 01:07:17 PM
Maybe if you couldn't buy everything they have in stock and more at the local convenience store a block away for a third of the price and even less at a grocery store they'd be doing a little better. Also many people these days question the wisdom of cramming their little snotrags with fat, chemical coloring agents and HFCS.

Ice cream trucks are a racket designed to extort money from people with the threat of high pitched screaming and hissy fits from their spoiled little brats. They are vultures who's vehicles lead to sonic insanity through creepy repetitive pedo music and lunatic wails of ill mannered children.

F*ck those guys.
 
2013-07-28 01:13:19 PM

Also...

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-28 01:16:15 PM

here to help: Maybe if you couldn't buy everything they have in stock and more at the local convenience store a block away for a third of the price and even less at a grocery store they'd be doing a little better. Also many people these days question the wisdom of cramming their little snotrags with fat, chemical coloring agents and HFCS.

Ice cream trucks are a racket designed to extort money from people with the threat of high pitched screaming and hissy fits from their spoiled little brats. They are vultures who's vehicles lead to sonic insanity through creepy repetitive pedo music and lunatic wails of ill mannered children.

F*ck those guys.


Ice cream truck ran over your dog, didn't it.
 
2013-07-28 01:19:13 PM

420Gabriel: gwowen: limeyfellow: patiodragon: The little snowflakes are inside in the air conditioning playing videos games. duh.

This is the UK, so we have no air conditioning. Means it gets hot with temperatures in the 90s and a heat index well over a 100 day after day. Especially when you are used to much colder temperatures.

So instead we just go inside where it's hot, and complain about how hot it is.

There is no air conditioning in the whole UK? I know its cold usually, but that is ridiculous. Buy an AC unit, and a toothbrush you freaks.


Its not uncommon in shops and offices but in homes, it's basically in new, expensive houses and nowhere else.
 
2013-07-28 01:24:55 PM
Ummmm, no. I'm thinking it is more that you can get ice cream, and generally pretty good quality ice cream, at any grocer, stores like Target and Walmart, hell even at most gas station convenience stores. So why the fark would I want to walk to a truck that only comes around sometimes? I can walk to my freezer whenever I want and have precisely the flavour I want. Also, given that it is frozen, it keeps real well so it is no big deal to get. You don't have to plan to go and buy ice cream, you just get it when you happen to be getting other shiat.

I've never seen why these silly trucks were still around. It is near impossible to find someone without a freezer in their house meaning should they wish to have a supply of ice cream on hand, they can.
 
2013-07-28 01:28:35 PM
The Brits are not buying ice cream because they all have these...

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I have one. The ice cream does not turn out like the picture. So, I turned the thing into a lamp... an aw-some, cool lamp.
 
2013-07-28 01:31:26 PM
Note what the article said about how many ice cream sellers there are--this isn't just the economy, it's a long standing pattern.
 
2013-07-28 01:32:48 PM
British ice cream trucks in the heat wave...

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2013-07-28 01:34:16 PM
Ice cream should be banned. No one needs ice cream.
 
2013-07-28 01:36:18 PM

gwowen: it's basically in new, expensive houses and nowhere else.


It may not get all that warm, but I'd imagine the humidity is significant there.

Are dehumidifiers common in England?
 
2013-07-28 01:41:57 PM

limeyfellow: patiodragon: The little snowflakes are inside in the air conditioning playing videos games. duh.

This is the UK, so we have no air conditioning. Means it gets hot with temperatures in the 90s and a heat index well over a 100 day after day. Especially when you are used to much colder temperatures.


You sure about those temps? You know 90 F is about 33 C right? According to the weather channel you guys have only hit that temp once this summer, average for the last couple weeks has been 27-28 (80-82 F) and a couple days it'shiat 30 (86 F). Your overnight lows have been in the mid to upper teens (60-65 F) on average.  Sorry but even without AC those temps aren't that hot.

Even your winters aren't that cold, hell I bet we get more freezing temps here in Texas than you guys get there. I lived in the UK for 2 years and I remember the summer months being pretty mild.
 
2013-07-28 01:44:56 PM
bikini ice cream trucks are where it's at.  Brow beaten husbands would gladly pay a premium to gawk at girls in bikinis selling over priced ice cream.
 
2013-07-28 02:09:41 PM

ReapTheChaos: The fact that for the price of 1 ice cream bar bought from a truck you can buy a whole box from the grocer has always been enough incentive for me to not waste money on them.


It IS, however, a sign of changing economic times that the price difference actually discourages children.
 
2013-07-28 02:10:24 PM

cman: There's an economic crisis?

Last time I checked we were in a recovery


Last I checked "Getting better" did not mean "Everything has gone back to normal."
 
2013-07-28 02:12:27 PM
And the moral of the story is "Don't park your ice cream truck in China Town."

I'm just kidding. Only one in four Chinese is lactose-intolerant.

Among Danes, it is one in ten. Those are the two world extremes. Ironically, China is the largest producer of dairy milk and products in the world. Because three-quarters of the population can eat dairy without suffering.

I have Danish ancestors and fortunately can eat my fill of cheese, ice cream, butter, and bacon. The Danes sell a lot of bacon along with their fine cheese, furniture, pornography, and so forth.

I get the impression that Denmark is Fark's kind of country. Especially us Fark Liberals. Like other Scandenavians, the Danes are intensely conservatve in some ways at the same time as being very liberal and social democratic, so there's something for everybody there.

But God help you if you have to research your family tree. They didn't have family surnames until the middle of the nineteenth century. The civil and religious parishes are the same, but you really have to know where somebody was born to find them in the records.

But back to the topic:

I just had an idea. If the Government subsidized ice cream carts and trucks, it might get the precious snowflakes out of doors.

Then we'd get them.
 
2013-07-28 02:13:11 PM
I'm surprised my TFtC reference got no love. For shame.
 
2013-07-28 02:14:34 PM

ReapTheChaos: limeyfellow: patiodragon: The little snowflakes are inside in the air conditioning playing videos games. duh.

This is the UK, so we have no air conditioning. Means it gets hot with temperatures in the 90s and a heat index well over a 100 day after day. Especially when you are used to much colder temperatures.

You sure about those temps? You know 90 F is about 33 C right? According to the weather channel you guys have only hit that temp once this summer, average for the last couple weeks has been 27-28 (80-82 F) and a couple days it'shiat 30 (86 F). Your overnight lows have been in the mid to upper teens (60-65 F) on average.  Sorry but even without AC those temps aren't that hot.

Even your winters aren't that cold, hell I bet we get more freezing temps here in Texas than you guys get there. I lived in the UK for 2 years and I remember the summer months being pretty mild.


You should both move to Canada and shut the fark up.

For two months of the year, it's hot as balls. Well over 100F. A fresh crop of heatstroke victims every year, especially tourists, who don't understand that summer is hot.

For the few months on either side of that heat wave, it's beautiful weather and amazing, either you can watch everything live again in Spring, or watch everything die again in Fall.

Then it's winter. Yeah, you might have the occasional flakes in north Texas, but you've never had snow. So cold your bones ache.

This is like watching two people who live in vacation spots arguing about which one has the harsher conditions. Neither of you do.
 
2013-07-28 02:16:40 PM

gilgigamesh: So this guy is the only ice cream truck driver in history not to realize the real money in his job comes from using the route to sell weed.


LOL

Seriously, you've been watching too many movies. There's no such thing as ice cream men. They're just a front used by secret government agencies to spy on people and to kidnap them for anal-probing.

They only show up here on Canada Day. Mind you, they probably can sell a lot of ice cream at outrageous prices when there are hundreds of thousands of tourists in a small area at once. Maybe they take occasional breaks from anal-probing and kidnapping to sell some high-priced icecream. Makes sense to me. You have to fund your black ops some how. It can't always be drugs and pot.
 
2013-07-28 02:30:02 PM

LavenderWolf: ReapTheChaos: limeyfellow: patiodragon: The little snowflakes are inside in the air conditioning playing videos games. duh.

This is the UK, so we have no air conditioning. Means it gets hot with temperatures in the 90s and a heat index well over a 100 day after day. Especially when you are used to much colder temperatures.

You sure about those temps? You know 90 F is about 33 C right? According to the weather channel you guys have only hit that temp once this summer, average for the last couple weeks has been 27-28 (80-82 F) and a couple days it'shiat 30 (86 F). Your overnight lows have been in the mid to upper teens (60-65 F) on average.  Sorry but even without AC those temps aren't that hot.

Even your winters aren't that cold, hell I bet we get more freezing temps here in Texas than you guys get there. I lived in the UK for 2 years and I remember the summer months being pretty mild.

You should both move to Canada and shut the fark up.

For two months of the year, it's hot as balls. Well over 100F. A fresh crop of heatstroke victims every year, especially tourists, who don't understand that summer is hot.

For the few months on either side of that heat wave, it's beautiful weather and amazing, either you can watch everything live again in Spring, or watch everything die again in Fall.

Then it's winter. Yeah, you might have the occasional flakes in north Texas, but you've never had snow. So cold your bones ache.

This is like watching two people who live in vacation spots arguing about which one has the harsher conditions. Neither of you do.


I lived the first 19 years of my life in western New York, right near lake Ontario. I know full well how cold the damn winters get and there isn't enough money in the world to get me to live in that part of the country again. I will say this though, our winters, while not as cold as yours, are a pain in the ass at times. When it's below freezing one day, then it's 80 a few days later, then it drops back down below freezing for another week, it can really fark with your system. There's something just not right about running your heat and your AC in the same day.
 
2013-07-28 02:33:59 PM
TFA or rather TFice-cream (not) seller:
"I have Mars, Snickers, five different types of Magnums and Cornettos

So he stocks the stuff I can get by the bucketload and put in my freezer when getting groceries.
Or from the gas station, newsstand, $randomStore around the corner.

Color me shocked that his business is down compared to ice-cream shops or the trucks I remember that scoop fresh ice into cones.


I'm currently in a small German village in the hills and you know which of the truck-based businesses (ice-cream, baked goods, flowers, eggs&milk,..) going around the villages at fixed times every week seems to be still in business after 30 years despite three new discout grocery stores?
I think I saw the one with freshly-baked goods and even made use of the "beer truck" - the latter even survived the closing of the local brewery and juice maker who AFAIK came up with it:
You can mix&match cases with beers, sodas, juices, ... directly at your cellar's doorstep and he will also collect the empty deposit bottles and cases; the empty cases at the roadside are also used to signal the truck driver where to stop so you don't have to watch for him.

Maybe the ice-tram guy could get a trailer with beer and branch out a bit...
 
2013-07-28 02:34:44 PM

NotMyAlt: Cash business? Interview by the media? Tax officials watch media?

Yes, I only make £8 a day.


...
this

/and tells his boss '£8' whilst quietly refilling his cheap supplies personally - gets all that profit too
//UK petrol prices means he couldn't afford to drive that truck w/o more profit than that.
 
2013-07-28 02:51:02 PM
I just bought a $10 pint of gourmet ice cream, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2013-07-28 03:29:32 PM
So I should add icecream to the list?  Got it.  Bananas, chocolate, coffee and seafood are on the verge of extinction.  Icecream and animal protein are too expensive for anybody except the 1%.  Corn is only a viable food option because of government subsidies.  Very soon the rest of the world will catch on to this breatharian thing, but soon enough the air will be too full of carbon dioxide and we're all going to die because there's nothing left to live on.
 
2013-07-28 03:30:50 PM
"There are about four other ice-cream men who work near to me but I do not want to annoy them so I stay in Copthorne and Crawley Down," he explained.
"I have my own spot and they have theirs.


Sounds like he's selling more than ice cream.
 
2013-07-28 03:31:39 PM
Supply and demand... Just capitalism correcting itself... selling weed might change your results.
 
2013-07-28 03:32:21 PM

MrHappyRotter: So I should add icecream to the list?  Got it.  Bananas, chocolate, coffee and seafood are on the verge of extinction.  Icecream and animal protein are too expensive for anybody except the 1%.   Corn is only a viable food option because of government subsidies.  Very soon the rest of the world will catch on to this breatharian thing, but soon enough the air will be too full of carbon dioxide and we're all going to die because there's nothing left to live on.


A great majority of the corn that's subsidized is inedible and used to make ethanol. So there's really nothing left.
 
2013-07-28 03:59:45 PM

MindStalker: Sneakytoes: CSS:

I drove an ice cream truck for three weeks one summer in south St. Petersburg.  I was instructed by the boss lady to concentrate on the "ghetto" areas, because the people there were more likely to spend whatever cash they happened to have.  Not saying that I support her repugnant philosophy, but I cleaned up on welfare check day.

Also they tend to carry cash and aren't afraid to go outside. I've lived in rich and poor neighborhoods and I far prefer the kids in many of the poor neighborhoods, they play outside and have a good time, and stop the ice-cream truck. The rich kids stay inside and play their video games.


It's more than that. The rich don't get and stay rich by getting suckered. When you are poor enough, you can only afford to buy ice cream in single units, but when you're rich, you easily have the resources to spend less per unit by buying many units at once at the grocery store. It gets to a point where not wasting money on poverty surcharges, high mark-ups, etc is a moral imperative for the sort-of wealthy (we're talking upper-middle class, low end six figure incomes). I know this because I grew up in a rich neighborhood and it was impossible to fund raise there. The lower middle class suburbs were much better -- enough disposable income to buy my school crud but not so much that they could do much else with it.
 
2013-07-28 04:59:46 PM

Djorra: "There are about four other ice-cream men who work near to me but I do not want to annoy them so I stay in Copthorne and Crawley Down," he explained.
"I have my own spot and they have theirs.

Sounds like he's selling more than ice cream.


Ice cream guys protect their corner like they're Avon Barksdale
 
2013-07-28 05:01:42 PM

cman: There's an economic crisis?

Last time I checked we were in a recovery


Depends whether you work for a living, or live on investment income. The latter are doing  great!
 
2013-07-28 05:06:34 PM
People won't buy icecream from a van when the temperature is too high (> 23C), because it will melt too fast in their hands.

Source: An experience icecream van man i used to know (made his own from scratch, hated selling people softice because it isn't "real" icecream).
 
2013-07-28 05:22:56 PM

bmihura: Not in the United States; the very definitions of "unemployment rate" and "inflation" have been unceremoniously changed to make the economy appear to be in "recovery".

Look around at real unemployment and the rising cost of basic goods, then which do you believe: Your eyes, or the government?


The U6 is also a government-measured unemployment rate, so it boggles my mind that people think the widespread citation of the U3 is a "government conspiracy to hide the recession". Both it and the U3 have specific economic uses. Neither have been changed significantly since about 1993.

Measurements of short-term inflation have always excluded volatile commodities as well. If you look at the CPI with energy and food, the changes are so noisy as to completely obscure long-term trends. For example, if you look at the February CPI-U, energy saw a 5.4% spike over the previous month... but the next two months saw decreases of 2.6% and 4.3%. If you didn't remove those, ti would be difficult to see the steady long-term trend that was continuing during those months (inflation of 0.1-0.2% per month).

These are not conspiracies to "hide the truth" - because they only serve to "hide the truth" from people too lazy to read past the headline or who only watch the 10 o'clock news.

I have spent a fair amount of time studying the weaknesses of how we think and understand our direct observations. We notice things that are exceptional far more than we notice things that are not. And we notice things that harm us far more than things that benefit us. So, it's very easy to notice "Tomatoes are 20 cents more this week than last week" - but very hard to notice "But grapes, bananas, onions, potatoes, and corn are 4 cents cheaper than last week".

The economic reporting by the Bureau of Labor Statistics undergoes rigorous scientific and statistical processes to ensure that individual biases do not affect understanding of the overall economy. When you're telling people to "believe your eyes", what you're really telling them is to "believe your biases". But placing one's personal observations ahead of the open, transparent data produced by the BLS is absolute foolishness.
 
2013-07-28 06:03:37 PM

LtDarkstar: I don't know about overseas, but the ice cream trucks here in the US are beyond retarded (at least the ones in Wisconsin are). They drive down the side streets going 35 mph... how do they expect children (or adults) or anyone for that matter to run out of their houses fast enough to be able to buy any?


Because you can hear the music/world's most annoying noise 45 minutes in advance?
 
2013-07-28 06:20:26 PM
Somehow these idiots seem to think that driving around a petrol powered freezer is going to be profitable.  With the fuel taxes in Europe I'm surprised they're not transporting milk by horse again!
 
2013-07-28 06:24:02 PM
Current price 1 pound 40 per liter, exchange rate 1 dollar for 0.65 pound
3.8 liters per gallon

$8.18 per gallon for gas, the actuall fuel only costs about a dollar thirty more per gallon before the governments get ahold of it.
 
2013-07-28 06:35:11 PM
The ice cream sold from the vans is the cheap stuff that was all we used to be able to get in the UK. It does not really qualify as ice cream. You can now buy proper ice cream from ice cream parlours or buy the better brands at the supermarket.
 
2013-07-28 07:03:16 PM

Sneakytoes: CSS:

I drove an ice cream truck for three weeks one summer in south St. Petersburg.  I was instructed by the boss lady to concentrate on the "ghetto" areas, because the people there were more likely to spend whatever cash they happened to have.  Not saying that I support her repugnant philosophy, but I cleaned up on welfare check day.


Though that story sounds pretty sordid, I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing for poor people to allow their children to enjoy a cold treat on a hot afternoon, even if there are more cost effective ways to do it.
 
2013-07-28 07:10:04 PM

picturescrazy: Bob The Nob:

What flavor is it?


Bloody sea bloody bird bloody flavor ... ALBATROSS!
 
2013-07-28 09:38:38 PM

SevenizGud: LtDarkstar: I don't know about overseas, but the ice cream trucks here in the US are beyond retarded (at least the ones in Wisconsin are). They drive down the side streets going 35 mph... how do they expect children (or adults) or anyone for that matter to run out of their houses fast enough to be able to buy any?

Because you can hear the music/world's most annoying noise 45 minutes in advance?


Not where we were... you could hear them for about 10 seconds before they turned the corner and zoom they were gone before you even could get your shoes on. And then they wonder why they aren't selling anything...
 
2013-07-28 11:53:03 PM

Bob The Nob: picturescrazy: Bob The Nob:

What flavor is it?

Bloody sea bloody bird bloody flavor ... ALBATROSS!


No it doesn't have wafers with it you coont!
 
2013-07-29 05:50:43 AM
Yay! Home town paper makes it to Fark!

W00t!

/East Grinstead was in The Metro last week too.
 
2013-07-29 07:36:25 AM

JonnyBGoode: Perhaps it's not the economy. Perhaps it's the flavors.

[www.cardinalfang.net image 520x390]


Yep, this.  I don't buy ice cream, because I haven't yet found a store that sells my favorite flavor.  So I just make it myself.

/ mmm... lúcuma...
 
2013-07-29 10:57:55 AM

brantgoose: gilgigamesh: So this guy is the only ice cream truck driver in history not to realize the real money in his job comes from using the route to sell weed.

LOL

Seriously, you've been watching too many movies. There's no such thing as ice cream men. They're just a front used by secret government agencies to spy on people and to kidnap them for anal-probing.

They only show up here on Canada Day. Mind you, they probably can sell a lot of ice cream at outrageous prices when there are hundreds of thousands of tourists in a small area at once. Maybe they take occasional breaks from anal-probing and kidnapping to sell some high-priced icecream. Makes sense to me. You have to fund your black ops some how. It can't always be drugs and pot.


Alright, Citizen, since you just blew my cover, you can expect a knock at the door anytime soon.

/don't bother flushing your stash
//we are monitoring your sanitary waste lines too!
 
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