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(NBC News)   Russia launches spacesuit repair kit to space station to repair US spacesuit. With the way the US space program is going, odds are all we could afford to send was some old newspapers and a roll of duct tape   (nbcnews.com) divider line 43
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2013-07-28 04:43:23 AM
Whoa, whoa, WHOA!

Ain't nobody gonna be sendin' our good duct tape inta space, and that's final.
 
2013-07-28 07:23:09 AM
Sure, our space program has fallen apart, but on the flipside, the top 1% has really enjoyed those tax breaks.
 
2013-07-28 07:30:00 AM
history.nasa.gov

The Russians?  Failure evidently IS an option after all.
 
2013-07-28 08:30:40 AM
It's rather sad how little interest there is in our space program anymore. I guess our society doesn't feel inspired anymore by scientific achievement.
 
2013-07-28 08:33:50 AM

Nabb1: It's rather sad how little interest there is in our space program anymore. I guess our society doesn't feel inspired anymore by scientific achievement.


But did you see Honey Boo Boo's mama cookin' sketti?
 
2013-07-28 08:52:20 AM
First library in Alexandria and now this
 
2013-07-28 09:04:18 AM

Nabb1: It's rather sad how little interest there is in our space program anymore. I guess our society doesn't feel inspired anymore by scientific achievement.


I'm right there with you. I really thought we'd at least be back to the moon by now, but nobody likes science.

Makes me want to start my own space program, with blackjack and hookers.
 
2013-07-28 09:08:03 AM
Some worthless things had to get pared back to bring peace to Iraq and Afghanistan. Deal with it.
 
2013-07-28 09:12:57 AM
$17.7B - NASA budget

I guess the budget could be bigger, but we are too busy paying paying losers to pump out a never-ending series of career criminals.

Tough break, StinkyHippy. When you cry about NASA, just remember that Shaniqua Von Bismarck will at least have enough money to buy food for her 14 kids by 14 different fathers.
 
2013-07-28 09:17:22 AM

SevenizGud: $17.7B - NASA budget

I guess the budget could be bigger, but we are too busy paying  for the 7 trillion dollars in pointless foreign wars our corporate masters wanted.



FTFY (to reflect actual reality)
 
2013-07-28 09:23:01 AM

Nabb1: It's rather sad how little interest there is in our space program anymore. I guess our society doesn't feel inspired anymore by scientific achievement.


What, like the one-ton robot we recently dropped on to another planet with a sky crane? You know, the one that's doing things like blasting the extraterrestrial soil with a laser beam?

You know what Curiosity will never need? A spacesuit repair kit.
 
2013-07-28 09:23:20 AM
img.photobucket.com

Knows another way.
 
2013-07-28 09:25:08 AM

jso2897: SevenizGud: $17.7B - NASA budget

I guess the budget could be bigger, but we are too busy paying  for the 7 trillion dollars in pointless foreign wars our corporate masters wanted.


FTFY (to reflect actual reality)


www.freedomsphoenix.com

Yeah, because allowing women to vote is pointless.
 
2013-07-28 09:30:03 AM

devine: Nabb1: It's rather sad how little interest there is in our space program anymore. I guess our society doesn't feel inspired anymore by scientific achievement.

I'm right there with you. I really thought we'd at least be back to the moon by now, but nobody likes science.

Makes me want to start my own space program, with blackjack and hookers.


You know, if there is anything I can do to assist in that endeavor, let me know.
 
2013-07-28 09:32:51 AM
Water leaking inside the Italian's helmet? Riiiiiight. They ought to check for a water leak in his pants, too. Italians'a... a'Farkin' a'crybabies'a.
 
2013-07-28 09:34:13 AM

SevenizGud: jso2897: SevenizGud: $17.7B - NASA budget

I guess the budget could be bigger, but we are too busy paying  for the 7 trillion dollars in pointless foreign wars our corporate masters wanted.


FTFY (to reflect actual reality)

[www.freedomsphoenix.com image 380x262]

Yeah, because allowing women to vote is pointless.


Fine. Have your grand adventures with other people's money, you nanny-state liberal. Just don't blame  the measley 4% of the budget that goes for welfare for the government being broke. The FACT is that our money's all gone because neoconservative warmongers blew it on wars against goatherds on the other side of the planet. If you want to pretend you see value in these stupid quarrels between savages, fine - but man up and own it, and the bankruptcy it has brought upon us.
 
2013-07-28 09:34:44 AM
pffft, a REAL NASA engineer wouldn't need ALL the newspaper to fix it, and would be finishing the crossword puzzle at the same time

/that's not how you spell Gaddafi
 
2013-07-28 09:42:09 AM
www.cranesy.com

Our space program seems pretty good to me.
 
2013-07-28 10:31:28 AM
Yes, its sad that Congress is pretty useless and incompetent in general but regardless the space program isn't dead yet. Obama also of course shares some blame, but I wouldn't say he really dismantled the space program. Shuttle was already on the way out, and Constellation deserved to be cancelled for being the clusterfark pork that it was. SLS (previously the Ares V) of course didn't get cancelled because of congress, even though there are serious concerns on about whether we can afford to fly that rocket very many times at all or even if its the best approach. Questions that weren't seriously asked because SLS like Constellation before it was designed around pork requirements.

Keep in mind though that despite all of this, NASA's budget is still bigger than the top three space programs behind the US. Which is China, Russia, and Europe. Not only bigger overall but bigger than all three combined at 16.6 billion for 2014.

China: 1.3 billion

Russia: 5.6 billion

Europe: 5.51 billion

 
2013-07-28 10:32:55 AM

EngineerAU: [www.cranesy.com image 600x450]

Our space program seems pretty good to me.


Funded under the previous administration.
 
2013-07-28 10:33:46 AM

TheCheese: Whoa, whoa, WHOA!

Ain't nobody gonna be sendin' our good duct tape inta space, and that's final.


Too late.

apod.nasa.gov
 
2013-07-28 11:12:38 AM
Thanks, Obama!

I remember during his 2008 campaign that he wanted to slash NASA funding in order to fund some education initiative he favored. After a large outcry, he claimed to have changed his mind.

Instead he was just lying, as he is more than half the time. It's a shame he didn't bother to actually attend one of the last Shuttle launches. I'm sure he could have gotten a great vantage point... maybe a lawn chair in the flame trench.
 
2013-07-28 12:04:29 PM

Nabb1: It's rather sad how little interest there is in our space program anymore. I guess our society doesn't feel inspired anymore by scientific achievement.


Maybe it's because most people don't find the ISS program that inspiring. Hell, I was a space nerd in high school and I honestly struggle to give a shiat what happens on the ISS. Things like the Curiosity mission or the Kepler telescope are way more interesting because they are actually making interesting discoveries. Sure the ISS does science, but it is poetry damn dull science as far as the general public is concerned, so I don't blame them for not being enthralled.
 
2013-07-28 12:05:50 PM
Poetry = pretty

Autocorrect fail.
 
2013-07-28 12:28:37 PM

AndreMA: Thanks, Obama!

I remember during his 2008 campaign that he wanted to slash NASA funding in order to fund some education initiative he favored. After a large outcry, he claimed to have changed his mind.

Instead he was just lying, as he is more than half the time. It's a shame he didn't bother to actually attend one of the last Shuttle launches. I'm sure he could have gotten a great vantage point... maybe a lawn chair in the flame trench.


Not to ruin your little anti-Obama rant but you do know that Obama can't do anything himself without congress right? I'd say Congress is even more to blame since they control the money, all Obama can do is set policy/veto or sign off on it. Its easy to blame one person, but not exactly correct.
 
2013-07-28 12:36:27 PM

Mad_Radhu: Nabb1: It's rather sad how little interest there is in our space program anymore. I guess our society doesn't feel inspired anymore by scientific achievement.

Maybe it's because most people don't find the ISS program that inspiring. Hell, I was a space nerd in high school and I honestly struggle to give a shiat what happens on the ISS. Things like the Curiosity mission or the Kepler telescope are way more interesting because they are actually making interesting discoveries. Sure the ISS does science, but it is poetry damn dull science as far as the general public is concerned, so I don't blame them for not being enthralled.


I don't know. I find it inspiring that so many nations have come together to work together on such a massive construction effort. Our first continuous outpost in space. Yes its not as cool as landing on the moon, but lets not pretend that the public didn't get bored of that by Apollo 15.
 
2013-07-28 01:15:18 PM

bbfreak: Not to ruin your little anti-Obama rant but you do know that Obama can't do anything himself without congress right? I'd say Congress is even more to blame since they control the money, all Obama can do is set policy/veto or sign off on it. Its easy to blame one person, but not exactly correct.


No, but he has input to the process and a lot of Democrats in Congress follow his "leadership" on issues that don't have large, direct impacts on their home districts.
 
2013-07-28 01:32:50 PM

EngineerAU: [www.cranesy.com image 600x450]

Our space program seems pretty good to me.


NASA does a great job with the pittance congress gives them, that's for sure.  But if I was drawing up the federal budget, NASA would get a much bigger piece of the pie.  Heck, shiatcanning that stupid F-35, and not forcing the army to buy tanks it doesn't want would, by themselves, triple or quadruple NASA's budget.
 
2013-07-28 01:34:12 PM

AndreMA: No, but he has input to the process and a lot of Democrats in Congress follow his "leadership" on issues that don't have large, direct impacts on their home districts.


Do you honestly believe that Boner would let any budget proposed by Obama, regardless of what it contains, pass the house?
 
2013-07-28 03:27:05 PM

bbfreak: public didn't get bored of that by Apollo 15 12.


And you know it.
 
2013-07-28 03:36:23 PM

bbfreak: AndreMA: Thanks, Obama!

I remember during his 2008 campaign that he wanted to slash NASA funding in order to fund some education initiative he favored. After a large outcry, he claimed to have changed his mind.

Instead he was just lying, as he is more than half the time. It's a shame he didn't bother to actually attend one of the last Shuttle launches. I'm sure he could have gotten a great vantage point... maybe a lawn chair in the flame trench.

Not to ruin your little anti-Obama rant but you do know that Obama can't do anything himself without congress right? I'd say Congress is even more to blame since they control the money, all Obama can do is set policy/veto or sign off on it. Its easy to blame one person, but not exactly correct.


you mean he didn't have influence on botox pelosi and crazy harry for pushing his agenda through congress during his first two years as president?
 
2013-07-28 05:17:57 PM

SevenizGud: $17.7B - NASA budget

I guess the budget could be bigger, but we are too busy paying paying losers to pump out a never-ending series of career criminals.

Tough break, StinkyHippy. When you cry about NASA, just remember that Shaniqua Von Bismarck will at least have enough money to buy food for her 14 kids by 14 different fathers.




Welfare, amirite?

If only we would wait for the food riots then baby Jesus can save us.
 
2013-07-28 06:48:54 PM

bbfreak: Too late.


That's Apollo Fabric Matrix Backed With Removable Adhesive, which was designed to go into space. We ran out of that by the end of the two-man Shuttle era.
 
2013-07-28 08:13:05 PM

clancifer: Sure, our space program has fallen apart, but on the flipside, the top 1% has really enjoyed those tax breaks.


Well, that <1% of the Federal Budget we were wasting in space was really slowing down job creation.
 
2013-07-28 09:48:12 PM

bbfreak: Yes, its sad that Congress is pretty useless and incompetent in general but regardless the space program isn't dead yet. Obama also of course shares some blame, but I wouldn't say he really dismantled the space program. Shuttle was already on the way out, and Constellation deserved to be cancelled for being the clusterfark pork that it was. SLS (previously the Ares V) of course didn't get cancelled because of congress, even though there are serious concerns on about whether we can afford to fly that rocket very many times at all or even if its the best approach. Questions that weren't seriously asked because SLS like Constellation before it was designed around pork requirements.

Keep in mind though that despite all of this, NASA's budget is still bigger than the top three space programs behind the US. Which is China, Russia, and Europe. Not only bigger overall but bigger than all three combined at 16.6 billion for 2014.

China: 1.3 billion

Russia: 5.6 billion

Europe: 5.51 billion


I did not know that. But with that being the case why does NASA need to beg the Soviets for a ride these days?
 
2013-07-28 10:03:51 PM

kg2095: bbfreak: Yes, its sad that Congress is pretty useless and incompetent in general but regardless the space program isn't dead yet. Obama also of course shares some blame, but I wouldn't say he really dismantled the space program. Shuttle was already on the way out, and Constellation deserved to be cancelled for being the clusterfark pork that it was. SLS (previously the Ares V) of course didn't get cancelled because of congress, even though there are serious concerns on about whether we can afford to fly that rocket very many times at all or even if its the best approach. Questions that weren't seriously asked because SLS like Constellation before it was designed around pork requirements.

Keep in mind though that despite all of this, NASA's budget is still bigger than the top three space programs behind the US. Which is China, Russia, and Europe. Not only bigger overall but bigger than all three combined at 16.6 billion for 2014.

China: 1.3 billion

Russia: 5.6 billion

Europe: 5.51 billion

I did not know that. But with that being the case why does NASA need to beg the Soviets for a ride these days?


Simple, politicians are terrible at planning for the future and are excellent at the game of kick the can down the road. The shuttle had to be retired eventually, and while there were a few shuttle replacements in mind during the shuttle program, we didn't really get serious about a shuttle replacement until after the loss of Columbia. Then there is the money issue, making a new spacecraft/launch vehicle takes a serious investment of resources/time/money and while Constellation was declared to be NASA's new direction the funding didn't really go anywhere to make it possible for NASA to have a replacement for shuttle ready by the time of the last shuttle flight. Or basically we're paying the Russian's because we didn't have the political will to up NASA's funding from 2004-2011 enough to be ready for the retirement of shuttle.

Which considering that NASA's funding is like 0.47 percent, not even a full percentage point of the budget is kind of ridiculous. Which is why many are concerned about the future. Science and exploration have made the United States a great nation, there is no other way around that. Yet science and exploration budgets have been slashed and there is no grand future planned out for NASA or the nation as a whole to keep us being a leader in these fields. Which is worrisome to say the least.
 
2013-07-28 10:18:43 PM

SevenizGud: jso2897: SevenizGud: $17.7B - NASA budget

I guess the budget could be bigger, but we are too busy paying  for the 7 trillion dollars in pointless foreign wars our corporate masters wanted.


FTFY (to reflect actual reality)

[www.freedomsphoenix.com image 380x262]

Yeah, because allowing women to vote is pointless.


I bet you watch Fox News.
 
2013-07-28 10:38:10 PM
Btw, I know I use the word which too much. o.o;; Anywho, one other note. The Apollo program for example was bumped up to 4 of the budget briefly, and I assume that was to make sure they met the goal of getting to the moon and landing on it before the decade was out. Meanwhile, NASA's budget has actually decreased.

Apollo Program: 7 plus years of development until Apollo 8, 8 plus years development until Apollo 11.

Meanwhile. SLS (Previously Ares V), and Orion have been in development since 2004 and aren't scheduled to fly manned until 2020. 16 years of development.
 
2013-07-28 11:24:09 PM
Oh, can't forget Shuttle: 9 plus years of development. So SLS/Orion are seriously a mess.
 
2013-07-28 11:46:09 PM
Tell me The Man was not interested. Go ahead, tell me another stupid lie.

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/541240main_image_1934_946-710.jpg

of course it's SFW, whaddya think I am?
 
TSE
2013-07-29 01:45:40 AM
/interrupt lurk

Great example of an ill-informed headline, trollmitter.

I've seen a lot of misinformation and inaccurate recollection about how we got to the current state of manned spaceflight here on Fark, and it is disappointing because this is all documented history out there on the web for review.  Yea I know, 'welcome to Fark'.  I've been following NASA news every week for years, watching every twist and turn since ISS contruction finally began with the launch of the Zarya module in 1998.  Here is what happened with America's ride to space, and anyone can feel free to quote sources if they think I'm remembering wrong (but I'm not, and I researched this as I wrote it just to be sure) :

After George H.W. Bush's vaporware Space Exploration Initiative in the 90s and the final cancellation of the highly advanced X-33 program in 2001, NASA knew that by 2010 they were going to be in dire need of a ride to/from ISS that could be parked for six months like Soyuz, and they began a development program that was focused entirely on that need and no other.   Orbital Space Plane had been in development since early 2001, had been specified, debated, and reviewed, and was just getting to the hardware design phase when the Columbia disaster happened.  After Columbia, George W. Bush (in a classic moment of blusterous political grandstanding reminiscent of Reagan's National Space Plane moment) announced his "Vision for Space Exploration" that soon became Constellation.  To his credit, he actually gave the idea of utlilizing space for economic gain the kick in the pants that it needed.  But he didn't follow through, and he wanted NASA to be in control of it (atypical for a Republican and not at all visionary).  After about a year of concurrent development and what was generally agreed to be a new and sleek lifting body design for OSP loosely based on the already-cancelled Crew Return Vehicle (in 2002 by the new GOP-controlled Congress, actually one of the first things they cancelled), W's new NASA admin Mike Griffin convinced him that Constellation's "Crewed Exploration Vehicle" (recently dubbed 'Orion') should cover the role of OSP, so OSP was cancelled and absorbed by the growing behemoth that was Constellation.  Bush then failed to secure adequate funding for "The Vision", and Griffin burned through millions and millions in development of his pet project Ares I, the design of which was the result of a backroom deal by former astronaut and new ATK Thiokol insider Scott "Doc" Horowitz to keep ATK Thiokol in the lucrative SRB business.  For a while, there was little development on Orion because Griffin was focused on Ares I.  Everyone but Griffin and Horowitz and their cronies swore up and down that launching astronauts on a single shaky SRB was a horrible idea, but these men refused to yield, thinking themselves to be visionaries.  This huge waste of money (over 400 million dollars for a single test flight to prove that one SRB could be flown, Ares 1X) led to the cancellation of Altair (the new lunar lander that was to be able to harvest oxygen and hydrogen from lunar regolith for fuel before Griffin decided it was unaffordable) and is one of the primary reasons that Constellation was eventually cancelled, which also meant no OSP.  The version of Orion that Obama approved for continued development in 2010 is actually smaller than originally specified, and not able capable of carrying an entire ISS crew for emergency evac, as OSP was planned to do.

If Bush hadn't cancelled OSP and tried to roll it into his VSE program, OSP would have been operational by the end of STS (Shuttle) and we wouldn't be paying through the nose for rides on Soyuz ships and counting the days until Dragon is man-rated.  So watch the video below and see the grand finale of all of the reasoning that led to our current inability send Americans to space on American spacecraft, courtesy of George W. Bush and Mike Griffin.

Ares 1X flight, which was not even the same size of booster that Ares I would have been:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeIjVB2O9_4

/resume lurk
 
2013-07-29 02:03:41 AM
Me: "Sweet! I could go see a JAXA Aug 3 launch while I'm here in Japan!" *looks at google maps* "ooooooor, maybe not".

Basically, without being at least somewhat fluent in the language or taking flights, I'm not getting there from Tokyo, and flights are out of the budget.
 
2013-07-29 09:40:40 AM
~~/interrupt lurk

I guess that about wraps it up.

Free Enterprise is not always Free.
Now let's get back to work and get something going.
 
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