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2013-07-27 11:03:58 PM

Oldiron_79: If they wanna impress me find Heinrich Müller, highest ranking Nazi whose wherabouts is unknown.


He probably died in 1945, Berlin was a harsh place when war came back home with a shiatload of angry russians in its luggage.
And even if he didn't: He'd be 113 years old now, so it's highly unlikely that he's still alive.
 
2013-07-27 11:04:27 PM
So many graves of ex-Nazis, so much pissing to be done, so little time
 
2013-07-27 11:05:09 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: A few Nazi is what?


In need of a dodge to clear them off a bridge?
 
2013-07-27 11:06:49 PM

Smackledorfer: So vengeance then?


If you accept the Nuremberg Doctrine towards "Superior Orders", then he is absolutely correct.
 
2013-07-27 11:09:14 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Smackledorfer: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

I am with you on this.

Nothing is served by continuuing the hunt at this point. Vengeance isn't justice.

What's the statute of imitations on genocide?

Is it "justice" if served within X years, but "vengeance" if it's X+1 years?


Fwiw, picking someone who committed a crime and ignoring it after the fact as circumstances change is not the same as requesting a statute of limitations.

I don't see why I cannot be against pointless vengeance without being buried under strawmen.
 
2013-07-27 11:10:19 PM
vygramul:

These people need to be hunted down and locked up at German expense. They shouldn't be allowed to live out their remaining 1-20 years in peace. (Seriously, how would you feel if one of them made it to 115? Likely, they have 1-7 years.)

Unfortunately it also illustrates the claim that "the Jews are terribly vindictive." And ya gotta admit it is pretty vindictive. "We will hunt you to the ends of the Earth for the rest of your lives!"


This serves multiple purposes, not the least of which is deterrence.

Deterring what, exactly? Another "race"-based series of government-organized mass murders? Does the word "Rwanda" mean anything to you?

Or do you mean another "heroic challenge to Zionist domination?" The last big thing, the Yom Kippur War of 1973, didn't go so well thanks to the Nixon administration both arming Israel and protecting it with the US' "nuclear umbrella," and no subsequent US administration has said anything to indicate it's now okay to attack Israel. That does a lot more to protect "the Jews" than hunting down every doddering old Nazi.

What exactly do you hope to deter? "[The] evil that lurks in the hearts of men?"

Hunt them down and torment them if you must but don't pretend it serves any other purpose than revenge.

"Hello, my name is Shimon Rubinstein. You killed my great-grandfather 70 years ago. Prepare to be miserable for every remaining second of your drooling pants-shiatting life!"

Are there no more productive endeavors to be attempted?  Are there no widows and orphans who need protecting? Are there no more recent war crimes to be detected? Has world peace suddenly broken out?

If nothing else try a nice hobby. There's a lot to be said for stamp collecting.
 
2013-07-27 11:14:01 PM
Leave them alone.  They have all atoned for their sins and are doing a ton of good correcting grammar on the internet!
 
2013-07-27 11:16:33 PM
They should call it operation "it's over".
 
2013-07-27 11:17:34 PM

you are a puppet: Is it safe?


Yes it's safe. It's very safe. It's so safe you wouldn't believe it.
 
2013-07-27 11:18:42 PM

Mock26: Leave them alone.  They have all atoned for their sins and are doing a ton of good correcting grammar on the internet!


I just laughed so hard blew scotch through my nose
 
2013-07-27 11:20:18 PM

Cormee: NeedlesslyCanadian: A few Nazi is what?

Is Nazis


Was an apostrophe in it before it went to FarkLite.
 
2013-07-27 11:22:06 PM
i.crackedcdn.com
 
2013-07-27 11:22:08 PM

Smackledorfer: Lionel Mandrake: Smackledorfer: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

I am with you on this.

Nothing is served by continuuing the hunt at this point. Vengeance isn't justice.

What's the statute of imitations on genocide?

Is it "justice" if served within X years, but "vengeance" if it's X+1 years?

Fwiw, picking someone who committed a crime and ignoring it after the fact as circumstances change is not the same as requesting a statute of limitations.


to-MAY-to, to-MAH-to

I don't see why I cannot be against pointless vengeance without being buried under strawmen.

I hate to break it to you, princess, but you are not the universal arbiter of what constitutes "pointless."

You're free to forgive and forget if you wish.  I don't blame people for seeking justice however long it takes.  We're talking active, willful participation in genocide, here.  These guys aren't just your average Hans drafted into the Wehrmacht and sent to the front lines.
 
2013-07-27 11:23:42 PM
You can spend tons of money going after them and putting the last few in prison, but most of them won't know what's going on.  By the time a trial is over, if they make it through, they'll be completely gaga.  A 16 old kid who got pressed into the German army in 1944 would be 85 today.  Anybody who had any actual authority is going to be in their mid-90s at the youngest.
 
2013-07-27 11:26:20 PM

NeedlesslyCanadian: Cormee: NeedlesslyCanadian: A few Nazi is what?

Is Nazis

Was an apostrophe in it before it went to FarkLite.


Snobbery is an ugly thing
 
2013-07-27 11:26:24 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Smackledorfer: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

I am with you on this.

Nothing is served by continuuing the hunt at this point. Vengeance isn't justice.

What's the statute of imitations on genocide?

Is it "justice" if served within X years, but "vengeance" if it's X+1 years?


Justice is not pointless retribution, regardless of the years.

Is something gained from punishing the few nazis left? I don't believe so. If you think there is, then explain that. Don't hide behind some catch all authoritarian shield like 'justice', especially not as a synonym for revenge.
 
2013-07-27 11:32:32 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Smackledorfer: Lionel Mandrake: Smackledorfer: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

I am with you on this.

Nothing is served by continuuing the hunt at this point. Vengeance isn't justice.

What's the statute of imitations on genocide?

Is it "justice" if served within X years, but "vengeance" if it's X+1 years?

Fwiw, picking someone who committed a crime and ignoring it after the fact as circumstances change is not the same as requesting a statute of limitations.

to-MAY-to, to-MAH-to

I don't see why I cannot be against pointless vengeance without being buried under strawmen.

I hate to break it to you, princess, but you are not the universal arbiter of what constitutes "pointless."

You're free to forgive and forget if you wish.  I don't blame people for seeking justice however long it takes.  We're talking active, willful participation in genocide, here.  These guys aren't just your average Hans drafted into the Wehrmacht and sent to the front lines.


"princess"? Oh come on mandrake, that is a quick sink to personal attacks. Thanks for supporting my argumemt though. You have no logical reason or purpose to the actions you call for. Actions that don't come without opportunity cost and possible superior alternatives with those resources.
 
2013-07-27 11:42:06 PM

Smackledorfer: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

I am with you on this.

Nothing is served by continuuing the hunt at this point. Vengeance isn't justice.


But this is not vengeance.  It is justice.  Justice must be ever vigilant, regardless of how much time has passed.
 
2013-07-27 11:48:56 PM
I thought they all work at the EPA
 
2013-07-27 11:50:06 PM

Smackledorfer: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

I am with you on this.

Nothing is served by continuuing the hunt at this point. Vengeance isn't justice.



Who said they wanted "justice"?

/Haters gonna' hate
//More hate for the Hate God
/// Insatiable
 
2013-07-27 11:52:30 PM
So go after every injustice in every war fought since WWII?

Soon the whole world will be blind.
 
2013-07-27 11:53:29 PM
So when does the world start punishing, you know, American war criminals?
 
2013-07-27 11:54:04 PM
What a Nazi may look like:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-27 11:56:59 PM
Nazis are bad......but admit it, Detroit and Chicago could benefit from their presence for a few weeks.
 
2013-07-27 11:57:17 PM
Night of Glass was in 1938, Germany invaded Poland in 1939.  For Simplicity lets say the war started in 1940.  There were Brown shirt activities before, but 1938 to 1939 is when things started.

Assuming the person was twenty in 1940, then are at +73 years in 2013.

So we are look at a target age of 93 for those that might be considered responsible adults in Germany that may have considered war crimes.

If the evidence is more than just a grainy black and white photo of an alleged SS person comparing them to the 93 or older German or Austrian is just stupid.

If there was a child involved where DNA can be compared, light it up.  But I am tired of show trials with alleged claims to remind people of the Shoah.

/For the record, there has been the Khmer Rouge, Turks vs Armenians, Rwanda and others I forget off the top of my head.  I don't see a PR machine streaming pretty much the same movie about those events for decades on.  I have the deepest respect for the survivors and the children of them, but it is time to move on.

//Rephrased, you can't play victim forever.
 
2013-07-28 12:06:01 AM

puffy999: So when does the world start punishing, you know, American war criminals?


0/10
 
2013-07-28 12:06:36 AM

Enemabag Jones: Night of Glass was in 1938, Germany invaded Poland in 1939.  For Simplicity lets say the war started in 1940.  There were Brown shirt activities before, but 1938 to 1939 is when things started.

Assuming the person was twenty in 1940, then are at +73 years in 2013.

So we are look at a target age of 93 for those that might be considered responsible adults in Germany that may have considered war crimes.

If the evidence is more than just a grainy black and white photo of an alleged SS person comparing them to the 93 or older German or Austrian is just stupid.

If there was a child involved where DNA can be compared, light it up.  But I am tired of show trials with alleged claims to remind people of the Shoah.

/For the record, there has been the Khmer Rouge, Turks vs Armenians, Rwanda and others I forget off the top of my head.  I don't see a PR machine streaming pretty much the same movie about those events for decades on.  I have the deepest respect for the survivors and the children of them, but it is time to move on.

//Rephrased, you can't play victim forever.



Wanna bet?

Victimhood is necessary nutrient.
 
2013-07-28 12:08:39 AM

puffy999: So when does the world start punishing, you know, American war criminals?


"American war criminals" is an oxymoron.

God is on our side.
 
2013-07-28 12:11:15 AM

you are a puppet: Is it safe?


Came here for this line, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-07-28 12:11:52 AM
cretinbob:
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What if, indeed.

i112.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-28 12:12:58 AM
puffy999: So when does the world start punishing, you know, American war criminals?

We won, we can't be war criminals.
 
2013-07-28 12:18:18 AM

Vectron: Simon Wiesenthal Center is about the money. They have a cozy thing going but have to find a "Nazi" once in while to look legit.


You mean there is a jewish group out there running a system with little practical benefit but rakes in tons of cash for themselves, and gets supporters by using guilt? I don't believe it!
 
2013-07-28 12:19:50 AM
I'll pay attention, subby. I'm quite an apt pupil.
 
2013-07-28 12:20:24 AM
True story. I guy I knew who's father was a post war German immigrant said that a group of them met regularly in a moderate sized Canadian city. Fairly large German community in said city.
The father went to one social gathering where an elderly woman was treated with great respect and honor. The woman was the wife of a high ranking Nazi officer in Hitlers inner circle.
The gossip was that it was either Himmler, Goering or Goebbels wife.

/just passing on what I was told by a fairly reliable source.
// also, a neighbour of mine in the same city and time period was a U-boat commander. He was proud of his war record. I did not judge him for being honest.
/// a teacher I had in the early 70's was a member of the Chech underground, dispatched several nazis with his knife. We only found this out by trying to distract him from teaching us geography
/// the more you know
 
2013-07-28 12:22:21 AM
For the folks who think that these are just poor old men...watch who comes out for their funerals...

In fairness, this goes for the monsters that my mother's people put in charge of things too. Genocide doesn't have a statute of limitations. It's not about revenge, it's about holding them responsible, and not making them creatures of pity. It's about making them face what they've done. Plain and simple. It won't reach some, but as a society and a circle of societies, how we face these horrors, drawing a line in the sand and saying, "Never again" is important. As important today as it was then. Ethnic cleansing is still an issue. It is still going on. And not just in Africa, not just in out of the way nations, but in Europe and the whole situation in Georgia, just recently, was based on folks who figured that if they just exterminated their neighbors, everything would be fine. Mind you, the Ossetians called on the Bolsheviks to help them NOT be exterminated way back, and again, after Georgia split, folks figured that it was still a good option.

Tell yourselves, O ye defenders of the poor downtrodden monsters, that it's been too long. Then look into the faces of those who survived. Look into the faces of their children, and their children's children, who would never have been if these pieces of kuso had their way.

We can ignore it, because it's more convenient. But sometimes, it's a matter of standing up and saying, "No. No more."
 
2013-07-28 12:25:23 AM
Jeebus. Reading my own post seems too bizarre to be true. But it is.
/ forgot the fourth slashy above.
 
2013-07-28 12:26:09 AM

The One True TheDavid: vygramul:

These people need to be hunted down and locked up at German expense. They shouldn't be allowed to live out their remaining 1-20 years in peace. (Seriously, how would you feel if one of them made it to 115? Likely, they have 1-7 years.)

Unfortunately it also illustrates the claim that "the Jews are terribly vindictive." And ya gotta admit it is pretty vindictive. "We will hunt you to the ends of the Earth for the rest of your lives!"


Of course, that's virtually the motto of any US law enforcement agency. But for some reason, this somehow reflect on Jews worse? Heck, we have "cold-case" files that are almost fetishized. Anyone who thinks that Jews are somehow unique in this regard is beyond saving to begin with.

This serves multiple purposes, not the least of which is deterrence.

Deterring what, exactly? Another "race"-based series of government-organized mass murders? Does the word "Rwanda" mean anything to you?


False dichotomy. You may as well say that the penalty for smoking marijuana doesn't deter anyone because there are some people who smoke marijuana. Yet I know people who WOULD smoke it IF it were legal to do so.

This is a fundamental economics concept: incentives matter. So, at the margins, SOMEONE is deterred, even if it wasn't someone in Rwanda.
 
2013-07-28 12:26:48 AM

Mock26: Leave them alone.  They have all atoned for their sins and are doing a ton of good correcting grammar on the internet!


www.bitlogic.com
 
2013-07-28 12:28:50 AM

Amos Quito: Smackledorfer: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

I am with you on this.

Nothing is served by continuuing the hunt at this point. Vengeance isn't justice.


Who said they wanted "justice"?

/Haters gonna' hate
//More hate for the Hate God
/// Insatiable


Glad to see you in another Israel thread.

Oh, wait...
 
2013-07-28 12:33:29 AM

puffy999: So when does the world start punishing, you know, American war criminals?


There's a reason Dönitz didn't get sentenced for unrestricted submarine warfare.
 
2013-07-28 12:33:38 AM

hubiestubert: For the folks who think that these are just poor old men...watch who comes out for their funerals...

In fairness, this goes for the monsters that my mother's people put in charge of things too. Genocide doesn't have a statute of limitations. It's not about revenge, it's about holding them responsible, and not making them creatures of pity. It's about making them face what they've done. Plain and simple. It won't reach some, but as a society and a circle of societies, how we face these horrors, drawing a line in the sand and saying, "Never again" is important. As important today as it was then. Ethnic cleansing is still an issue. It is still going on. And not just in Africa, not just in out of the way nations, but in Europe and the whole situation in Georgia, just recently, was based on folks who figured that if they just exterminated their neighbors, everything would be fine. Mind you, the Ossetians called on the Bolsheviks to help them NOT be exterminated way back, and again, after Georgia split, folks figured that it was still a good option.

Tell yourselves, O ye defenders of the poor downtrodden monsters, that it's been too long. Then look into the faces of those who survived. Look into the faces of their children, and their children's children, who would never have been if these pieces of kuso had their way.

We can ignore it, because it's more convenient. But sometimes, it's a matter of standing up and saying, "No. No more."


If you think busting a 90+ year old for ANY crime has some deterrant factor, you are sorely mistaken.

You say it is about holding people responsible and not revenge, but what other purpose does punishment here serve? I still see nothing but revenge.
 
2013-07-28 12:35:37 AM

vygramul: Amos Quito: Smackledorfer: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

I am with you on this.

Nothing is served by continuuing the hunt at this point. Vengeance isn't justice.


Who said they wanted "justice"?

/Haters gonna' hate
//More hate for the Hate God
/// Insatiable

Glad to see you in another Israel thread.

Oh, wait...



Wait for what, vygramul?
 
2013-07-28 12:35:40 AM

Dumski: True story. I guy I knew who's father was a post war German immigrant said that a group of them met regularly in a moderate sized Canadian city. Fairly large German community in said city.
The father went to one social gathering where an elderly woman was treated with great respect and honor. The woman was the wife of a high ranking Nazi officer in Hitlers inner circle.
The gossip was that it was either Himmler, Goering or Goebbels wife.

/just passing on what I was told by a fairly reliable source.
// also, a neighbour of mine in the same city and time period was a U-boat commander. He was proud of his war record. I did not judge him for being honest.
/// a teacher I had in the early 70's was a member of the Chech underground, dispatched several nazis with his knife. We only found this out by trying to distract him from teaching us geography
/// the more you know


Goebbels' wife died with Goebbels at the bunker. They didn't have sufficient fuel to burn them beyond recognition and were easily identified.
 
2013-07-28 12:39:20 AM
If your hobby is chasing mass murderers, go to Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Congo, Kosovo, China or Cambodia.
 
2013-07-28 12:42:50 AM

Amos Quito: vygramul: Amos Quito: Smackledorfer: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

I am with you on this.

Nothing is served by continuuing the hunt at this point. Vengeance isn't justice.


Who said they wanted "justice"?

/Haters gonna' hate
//More hate for the Hate God
/// Insatiable

Glad to see you in another Israel thread.

Oh, wait...


Wait for what, vygramul?


Oh, we didn't have to wait long for you to white-knight Nazis. Poor things are hated. What did they ever do to deserve it?

/Wait for it...
 
2013-07-28 12:43:25 AM
vygramul
and that's why I said "either". Whomever she was, she was revered.
 
2013-07-28 12:45:35 AM

Smackledorfer: hubiestubert: For the folks who think that these are just poor old men...watch who comes out for their funerals...

In fairness, this goes for the monsters that my mother's people put in charge of things too. Genocide doesn't have a statute of limitations. It's not about revenge, it's about holding them responsible, and not making them creatures of pity. It's about making them face what they've done. Plain and simple. It won't reach some, but as a society and a circle of societies, how we face these horrors, drawing a line in the sand and saying, "Never again" is important. As important today as it was then. Ethnic cleansing is still an issue. It is still going on. And not just in Africa, not just in out of the way nations, but in Europe and the whole situation in Georgia, just recently, was based on folks who figured that if they just exterminated their neighbors, everything would be fine. Mind you, the Ossetians called on the Bolsheviks to help them NOT be exterminated way back, and again, after Georgia split, folks figured that it was still a good option.

Tell yourselves, O ye defenders of the poor downtrodden monsters, that it's been too long. Then look into the faces of those who survived. Look into the faces of their children, and their children's children, who would never have been if these pieces of kuso had their way.

We can ignore it, because it's more convenient. But sometimes, it's a matter of standing up and saying, "No. No more."

If you think busting a 90+ year old for ANY crime has some deterrant factor, you are sorely mistaken.

You say it is about holding people responsible and not revenge, but what other purpose does punishment here serve? I still see nothing but revenge.


Then you haven't ever had to deal with skinheads or other of their ilk then. I've got some lovely scars from a skin and a knife who thought he was doing his "duty." This is not just about the men who committed atrocity, it's about delivering a message to those who hold them as heroes.

These men are heroes to these folks. The Holocaust in their eyes was "a good start." It still is. The Ultranationalists in Japan have a similar mindset, and in my mother's land, it's JUST as disturbing, and more so, that the government in Japan glosses over the atrocities committed. At least Germany tries to come to grips with their history--even though, in all my time in Germany, I never met a single German who admitted that anyone in their family was a part of the regime, or even had family who fought. This is not just about justice for the families, to see the men and women who committed atrocities brought to court, and given their day in court. That is the difference. These monsters, who consigned so many to die in camps, to be killed in the streets, to be buried en mass, see their day in court. Because we are societies governed by law. This about serving the law. That justice. Not simply dragged out into the street and shot, not quietly assassinated, but to see them face the law, to see the faces of their accusers, and realize that they have failed.
 
2013-07-28 12:48:37 AM

Dumski: vygramul
and that's why I said "either". Whomever she was, she was revered.


I understood. I just wanted to eliminate one of the possibilities for you.
 
2013-07-28 12:48:52 AM

vygramul: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

Wait - are you proposing a statute of limitations on murder, or an age limit on murder, or both?

Because I can't agree those are reasonable. These people need to be hunted down and locked up at German expense. They shouldn't be allowed to live out their remaining 1-20 years in peace. (Seriously, how would you feel if one of them made it to 115? Likely, they have 1-7 years.) This serves multiple purposes, not the least of which is deterrence.

I might be willing to offer up some kind of plea deal amnesty for people who turn themselves in right now, complete with confession and details about their compatriots, escape, and other relevant information. In exchange, they get 5 years. Who knows? It's a gamble and they might get out to enjoy a few before they go.


Statute? No.
Age limit? No.
Statute in conjunction with age? Possibly.

Are you SERIOUSLY arguing deterrence when talking about aging concentration camp guards who are so old they likely can't remember what they ate for breakfast by the time sunset rolls around; and thinking "By god, we can't let these guys get away; it will set such a bad example for future concentration camp guards who might want to do likewise!!" Legality and illegality in the context of genocide is laughable--it only becomes illegal if your side loses AND if you get caught AND if the other side can prove you were in a position to be able to meaningfully refuse your orders. Do you really think that punishing an elderly Nazi prison camp executioner will deter someone convinced of the righteousness of killing all the Tutsis or Sunnis he can find in case someday he MIGHT be on the wrong side of history? Deterrence is the least, and worst, argument you could possibly make for tracking down and punishing these guys.

Sooner or later, the last of the Nazis will die, and some if not most will have escaped justice. Jews must accept this, much as survivors of the Armenian genocide must accept they will likely never see justice for their dead loved ones, and survivors of the Holodomor will never see complete justice, and survivors of the Rwandan genocide, and survivors of the Serbian genocide, and on and on and on. Nobody is suggesting (okay, I"m sure someone is, but it isn't me) that we say "Oh, these poor old men, let them die in peace," but at some point there must be a realization that time is not on the side of vengeance. At what point do the Jews become like the Inquisition of old, digging up defunct (i.e., dead) heretics and dispossessing their heirs because of past misdeeds?

If the fear is that "these guys will get away with heinous crimes"--guess what. They already did. It has been sixty or seventy years since their crimes against humanity and any "justice" exacted now is merely token justice exacted in the names of victims likewise seventy years in their graves. There is no way to un-write time and get justice for those victims; nor is there at this point in their lives a way to make these criminals pay in any meaningful way for what they did. Does that mean there is no justice in the world? Is that tantamount to letting all murderers get away with murder? Do we have to, as you suggest, create a statute of limitations on murder or an age limit on who can be prosecuted? If you feel that letting a few old men in highly unusual situations like this not be prosecuted is equivalent to letting ALL old men get away with murder, then I'm sorry for you.

There's no reason to let these men off the hook. The world should know what crimes they are alleged to have committed, if it can be shown. But what justice is served, no matter how terrible the crime, by trying 90-year old men for crimes 70 years past, except an abstract sense that "justice must be done"? And if that's not sufficient, then ask yourself this: there is no place they can be safely kept in prison, so they must be kept in a hospital. Is that justice, given the nature of their crime? There is no country willing in some cases to try them, so they must be tried in nations unrelated to their crime. Is that justice for the victims? IS this about justice, or is it only vengeance?
 
2013-07-28 12:50:29 AM

vygramul: Amos Quito: vygramul: Amos Quito: Smackledorfer: Benevolent Misanthrope: So... what does the Simon Wiesenthal Center want to do?  Jail them for the year they have left, on the taxpayer dime, to get vengeance?

I am with you on this.

Nothing is served by continuuing the hunt at this point. Vengeance isn't justice.


Who said they wanted "justice"?

/Haters gonna' hate
//More hate for the Hate God
/// Insatiable

Glad to see you in another Israel thread.

Oh, wait...


Wait for what, vygramul?

Oh, we didn't have to wait long for you to white-knight Nazis. Poor things are hated. What did they ever do to deserve it?



???


vygramul
:   /Wait for it...


Wait for what, vygramul?
 
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