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(National Review)   Obamacare call centers to hire workers as part timers, won't provide health insurance   (nationalreview.com) divider line 184
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2013-07-27 02:03:56 PM
This thread shall be fun

A highly biased site with a bunch of overreactive morans in the accompanying Fark thread makes always for some fun reading
 
2013-07-27 02:05:56 PM
They're just looking out for the workers' best interests, you know. Working full time would mean they'd have to provide health insurance, and then the death panels would be next.
 
2013-07-27 02:11:14 PM
Read the links. It's a state-run call center. The federal government doesn't run it. NRO could have pointed it out, but that would contradict the narrative.
 
2013-07-27 02:17:01 PM
Who cares what NRO thinks?
 
2013-07-27 02:21:14 PM
Interesting tidbit from the original article:

Contra Costa was selected early on by the state to run the call center, but the deal mandated the county run the operation itself, with state funding, or lose it to another county. Once Contra Costa secured the call center, Concord and Richmond battled for the right to host it. Unions nearly derailed the project before some last-minute wrangling to ensure workers weren't transferred needlessly and would receive appropriate benefits.

The state budget allows for 180 customer service agents, half of them part-time, when the call center opens Oct. 1, said Contra Costa Deputy County Administrator Theresa Speiker. The full-time employees, she said, will handle the core 40-hour work week, while the part-timers will handle the extended hours. For the first three months, the call center at 2500 Bates Ave., off Highway 4 and Port Chicago Highway, will be open 72 hours a week. After that, it drops to 59 hours a week.


link
 
2013-07-27 02:38:08 PM
Since whan has NRO been butthurt about part-time employees and weak benefits.  I'm confused.
 
2013-07-27 02:43:08 PM
So now the NRO wants people to have Obamacare?
 
2013-07-27 02:46:07 PM

doyner: Since whan has NRO been butthurt about part-time employees and weak benefits.  I'm confused.


Since Balrog HUSSEIN Sorostero Fartbingo soshalisms takeover czar comma and furthermore.

Seriously, these people are deranged nincompoops, living in a fantasy world, completely cut off from reality.
 
2013-07-27 02:54:26 PM
FTFA:  Those who became part-time were told they would have to pay full freight on their health plans, ranging from $600 to $1,200 a month for a single worker and between $1,400 to $2,900 a month for an employee with a family. That is a steep bill for employees with part-time jobs paying from $15.33 to $18.63 an hour.

That's not very farkfordable.
 
2013-07-27 03:04:12 PM
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NRO, lions of journalism.
 
2013-07-27 04:07:15 PM
All that money for that call center could be going to blow up a country with oil. Or give a tax break to some rich people. Thanks a lot, you selfish leeches
 
2013-07-27 04:14:44 PM
So we need universal coverage, then?

Great idea, NRO.
 
2013-07-27 04:40:15 PM

kronicfeld: Read the links. It's a state-run call center. The federal government doesn't run it. NRO could have pointed it out, but that would contradict the narrative.


Lies? In MY Fark headline and NRO article?!?!?
 
2013-07-27 04:42:26 PM

FloydA: Who cares what NRO thinks?


Normally I would agree.  Irony pointed out by a heavily partisan source with an agenda is still irony, however.
 
2013-07-27 04:43:27 PM
Do they make less than 400% of the poverty level? Then they get free/cheap healthcare, thanks to Obamacare. That's a lot more than they would have gotten before, BTW.
 
2013-07-27 04:46:01 PM
Good. Buy it like the rest of us will.
 
2013-07-27 04:46:42 PM

Nobodyn0se: Do they make less than 400% of the poverty level? Then they get free/cheap healthcare, thanks to Obamacare. That's a lot more than they would have gotten before, BTW.


Which is 0.
 
2013-07-27 04:47:48 PM
Somebody has to do something about this part time worker loophole so that companies can't keep half their workforce on part time hours in order to avoid paying healthcare costs.

Pro rate the thing somehow.

Take away the loophole and watch the economic landscape change for the better.
 
2013-07-27 04:50:26 PM

Nobodyn0se: Do they make less than 400% of the poverty level? Then they get free/cheap healthcare, thanks to Obamacare. That's a lot more than they would have gotten before, BTW.


THIS!

People still dont get how this works. Your Healthcare will no longer be tied to your employment.

Your Healthcare will no longer be tied to your employment.

Your Healthcare will no longer be tied to your employment.

So eventually, yes they will get Healthcare, just not through That part time job.
 
2013-07-27 04:51:20 PM

kronicfeld: Read the links. It's a state-run call center. The federal government doesn't run it. NRO could have pointed it out, but that would contradict the narrative.


You... You do know that the state receives federal grants to run the centers right?!?  That ACA calls out grants for this function.  ACA gives a lot of "control" to states in the form of bribery.
 
2013-07-27 04:53:14 PM

MyRandomName: kronicfeld: Read the links. It's a state-run call center. The federal government doesn't run it. NRO could have pointed it out, but that would contradict the narrative.

You... You do know that the state receives federal grants to run the centers right?!?  That ACA calls out grants for this function.  ACA gives a lot of "control" to states in the form of bribery.


You...You do know that the Federal Government doesn't determine the compensation that the employees of the State run call centers get, right?!?
 
2013-07-27 04:53:44 PM

AngryDragon: FloydA: Who cares what NRO thinks?

Normally I would agree.  Irony pointed out by a heavily partisan source with an agenda is still irony, however.


How is this ironic? These employees will still be able to get insurance through the exchanges, right?
 
2013-07-27 05:02:38 PM
Br responsible for your health care outside of an emergency room.......it's a boot strappy concept.  Why would NRO be against that?
 
2013-07-27 05:04:00 PM

kronicfeld: Read the links. It's a state-run call center. The federal government doesn't run it. NRO could have pointed it out, but that would contradict the narrative.


why is that farking relevant?
where is the funding coming from for the call centers?
 
2013-07-27 05:05:01 PM

kronicfeld: Read the links. It's a state-run call center. The federal government doesn't run it. NRO could have pointed it out, but that would contradict the narrative.


Bears repeating.

/ah, for the days BEFORE Obamacare when full-time employment was mandatory...
//wait...
 
2013-07-27 05:06:19 PM
Somebody needs to hire the NRO to clean out the shiat from the septic tank in the backyard.
 
2013-07-27 05:09:24 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Nobodyn0se: Do they make less than 400% of the poverty level? Then they get free/cheap healthcare, thanks to Obamacare. That's a lot more than they would have gotten before, BTW.

Which is 0.


Considering 400% of the poverty line is $45,000 a year and these people will be making $18 an hour at most, which is $37,000 I think they have a good shot.  And considering the median annual income in the US is $50,000 I have a feeling a lot of people will be getting subsidies and suddenly liking Obamacare.
 
2013-07-27 05:09:26 PM

whidbey: Somebody needs to hire the NRO to clean out the shiat from the septic tank in the backyard.


The NRO IS the septic tank in politics' back yard.
 
2013-07-27 05:09:46 PM

kronicfeld: Read the links. It's a state-run call center. The federal government doesn't run it. NRO could have pointed it out, but that would contradict the narrative.


The only "narrative" NRO is interested in, is the one that gets them noticed and their peeps in office. Truth showed up at NRO's offices, looked around, and left, unloved, unneeded, and unregarded.
 
2013-07-27 05:10:05 PM
NRO is suddenly concerned about access to health care for part time workers?

Duly noted.
 
2013-07-27 05:10:56 PM

MyRandomName: kronicfeld: Read the links. It's a state-run call center. The federal government doesn't run it. NRO could have pointed it out, but that would contradict the narrative.

You... You do know that the state receives federal grants to run the centers right?!?  That ACA calls out grants for this function.  ACA gives a lot of "control" to states in the form of bribery.


And? No
 
2013-07-27 05:11:38 PM
That's it everybody! Obamacare has failed! Time to give everything back to the insurance industry.
 
2013-07-27 05:17:42 PM
Personally I like seeing 2 part timers hired rather than 1 full-timer. More people with a job of some sort. And with the exchanges both of these people will be able to afford some sort of healthcare. Load up with 2 part time jobs you're less likely to get laid off from both at the same time and aren't as scared to tell one to f off.
 
2013-07-27 05:18:55 PM

moralpanic: That's it everybody! Obamacare has failed! Time to give everything back to the insurance industry.


HURR THE WHOLE THING WUZ A GIVEAWAY

DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR SUCKERS HURRR
 
2013-07-27 05:24:32 PM
Limousine liberals wanting to spend all of everyone's money, but don't want the rules to apply to them. Shocking.
 
2013-07-27 05:27:01 PM

SevenizGud: Limousine liberals wanting to spend all of everyone's money, but don't want the rules to apply to them. Shocking.


Good Lord that was...just...sad.
 
2013-07-27 05:28:30 PM
Fark libtards to 0bamas rescue!
 
2013-07-27 05:34:51 PM

the_pol3cat: Fark libtards to 0bamas rescue!


Ugh...the quality of trolling around here is plummeting to new lows.

Is their nary a wit to be had in Teabagland?
 
2013-07-27 05:41:07 PM

the_pol3cat: Fark libtards to 0bamas rescue!


DURRR WHAR BIRTH CERIFICT?
CERTIFICTION HURR DERP DERP DERP DERP
 
2013-07-27 05:41:56 PM

Lionel Mandrake: the_pol3cat: Fark libtards to 0bamas rescue!

Ugh...the quality of trolling around here is plummeting to new lows.

Is their nary a wit to be had in Teabagland?


meh.  the knee-jerk reaction around her for the apologists is so stale that it really isn't worth for people to troll.
the apologists are just trolling themselves at this point.
 
2013-07-27 05:50:41 PM

MindStalker: Personally I like seeing 2 part timers hired rather than 1 full-timer. More people with a job of some sort. And with the exchanges both of these people will be able to afford some sort of healthcare. Load up with 2 part time jobs you're less likely to get laid off from both at the same time and aren't as scared to tell one to f off.


This is a kinder, gentler way of describing the race to the bottom.
 
2013-07-27 05:51:37 PM

the_pol3cat: Fark libtards to 0bamas rescue!


From what? You?
 
2013-07-27 05:53:35 PM

MindStalker: Personally I like seeing 2 part timers hired rather than 1 full-timer. More people with a job of some sort. And with the exchanges both of these people will be able to afford some sort of healthcare. Load up with 2 part time jobs you're less likely to get laid off from both at the same time and aren't as scared to tell one to f off.


The big problem with that is the many, many part time jobs out there that expect you to be available 24/7
 
2013-07-27 05:58:37 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The full-time employees, she said, will handle the core 40-hour work week, while the part-timers will handle the extended hours


The impression I'm getting here is they're maximizing the number of full time 8-5 people and the reason they have to hire part time is there aren't enough extended hours to get anyone to 40 without doing some of the 8-5.

Some companies would just go ALL part time in this situation or force really weird working hours on a smaller workforce so I don't really see any issue with this.
 
2013-07-27 05:58:37 PM
Lionel Mandrake:
Is their nary a wit to be had in Teabagland?


You're asking for too much.  Reduce your request by half.
 
2013-07-27 06:01:01 PM

Lionel Mandrake: the_pol3cat: Fark libtards to 0bamas rescue!

Ugh...the quality of trolling around here is plummeting to new lows.

Is their nary a wit to be had in Teabagland?


They check prospective members for wits when they show up; if they find any, they're out the door!
 
2013-07-27 06:09:39 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: kronicfeld: Read the links. It's a state-run call center. The federal government doesn't run it. NRO could have pointed it out, but that would contradict the narrative.

why is that farking relevant?
where is the funding coming from for the call centers?


So... you're saying the Federal government needs to step in and take over and run things for them? That's an unusual position for you; I don't recall you ever advocating for the Federal Government stepping in and taking over something from a state, or even setting mandates on how a state should do things (I could be wrong), but okay.

I don't think that's a good idea myself; permitting each state to decide how best to implement Obamacare is how you get lots of various ideas and plans in place, and see which ones work best. You have 57 50 different states, and some will simply do better than others. Those that don't do so well will be able to look at their neighbors and adapt.

The idea behind Obamacare is to eventually move to single payer, anyhow. Some states, like Vermont, are doing this already; other states have listened to the BS about "OMG! Socialism!" for too long and will resist it until their noses are rubbed in it and their citizens realize how badly they have been lied to by politicians in the pocket of the health care industry.

Explaining to some individuals how much better health care is in countries with Single Payer is a lost cause. You can show them every statistic on life expectancy and lack of personal bankruptcies due to health costs, and lower infant mortality, and everything else, and they will insist you are lying and the United States has the best healthcare system in the world, they know it because that nice man on the television said so, and they ain't believin' some Socialist Communist place where they go to the beach nekkid is any better than America at ANYTHING. Maybe if they see businesses moving to the states with Single Payer because they no longer have to worry about providing health care to employees, then they might have a change of heart. The almighty dollar usually wins out in the end.
 
2013-07-27 06:14:10 PM

the_pol3cat: Fark libtards to 0bamas rescue!


Fark trolls and alts to the rescue!

The derp must flow. Hur.
 
2013-07-27 06:15:38 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: meh. the knee-jerk reaction around her for the apologists is so stale that it really isn't worth for people to troll.
the apologists are just trolling themselves at this point.


What do you feel people are/should be apologizing for, or at least "clarifying" to make their team (I'm assuming you mean Liberals) look better?
 
2013-07-27 06:19:16 PM

FloydA: Who cares what NRO thinks?


FTFY
 
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