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(MSN)   By a strange coincidence America's most dishonest city also has the most politicians and government employees per capita   (money.msn.com ) divider line 75
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2013-07-27 08:18:56 AM  
Sounds like one of those psychology experiments that they do with college sophomores.
 
2013-07-27 09:02:55 AM  
By a strange coincidence subby has never been to DC.
 
2013-07-27 09:12:28 AM  
They even stole the CEO's bike. Hysterical.
 
2013-07-27 09:21:44 AM  
By another strange coincidence, that's almost the same as Congress' disapproval rating.
 
2013-07-27 09:32:02 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-27 10:30:07 AM  
America has the gov't it demands.
 
2013-07-27 11:13:47 AM  
I wonder how they determined the city of residence of those who took a beverage.
 
2013-07-27 11:14:21 AM  
Correlation does not equal causation.  Just because some politicians may be dishonest does not mean that they are all dishonest, but if you're betting, go with the odds.
 
2013-07-27 11:14:38 AM  
Threadjack to turn this into political rich vs poor or race vs race derp in 3...2...
 
2013-07-27 11:18:22 AM  
That's nothing, here in Charlotte they would have taken the entire kiosks !

D.C. got nothing on us..........
 
2013-07-27 11:19:29 AM  
Put it on Wall Street next !
 
2013-07-27 11:20:35 AM  

". Blondes were more honest (at 95%) than people with gray hair ..."


They could have put up a sign saying blonde women could take a drink if they showed their boobs, and they would have done so.

It's funny that in Massachusetts one guy in a suit stole from the stand 13 times. Was he a hobo with a suit or did the guy actually have a job that gave him so many breaks?

 
2013-07-27 11:22:15 AM  

rkiller1: Threadjack to turn this into political rich vs poor or race vs race derp in 3...2...


..1..

Well of course the bike was stolen. It couldn't be affirmatively actioned or welfared into existence, right? AMIRITE?
 
2013-07-27 11:22:24 AM  
Thanks, but I'm not going to rely on a corp that sells piss-tainted sugar-water through false nostalgia and friendly polar bears to tell me about honesty.
 
2013-07-27 11:22:31 AM  

animalmagnet: Correlation does not equal causation.  Just because some politicians may be dishonest does not mean that they are all dishonest, but if you're betting, go with the odds.


You know what they say to do when in Rome, though. It may be that politicians are the only dishonest people to move there in any significant numbers, but they serve as the city's main role models. Is it any wonder if some of their dishonesty rubs off on the populace?
 
2013-07-27 11:23:50 AM  

DoctorCal: I wonder how they determined the city of residence of those who took a beverage.


Good point.  The DC that tourists see is a whole different city from the DC most residents live in.  Where they put the kiosks would make all the difference.
 
2013-07-27 11:24:08 AM  
Not Chicago? Huh...
 
2013-07-27 11:24:56 AM  
Obvious tag last seen fapping furiously over this one.
 
2013-07-27 11:24:56 AM  

Heron: Thanks, but I'm not going to rely on a corp that sells piss-tainted sugar-water through false nostalgia and friendly polar bears to tell me about honesty.


Who pissed in your sugar water?
 
2013-07-27 11:26:00 AM  

DoctorCal: I wonder how they determined the city of residence of those who took a beverage.


Good point. D.C. is full of tourists, but also criminals, lots of criminals.
 
2013-07-27 11:28:54 AM  

rkiller1: Threadjack to turn this into political rich vs poor or race vs race derp in 3...2...


10por15.net
DC has the political rich AND black people.
10por15.net
Montgomery County has (IIRC) the most rich black people in the country.
 
2013-07-27 11:34:53 AM  

Millennium: animalmagnet: Correlation does not equal causation.  Just because some politicians may be dishonest does not mean that they are all dishonest, but if you're betting, go with the odds.

You know what they say to do when in Rome, though. It may be that politicians are the only dishonest people to move there in any significant numbers, but they serve as the city's main role models. Is it any wonder if some of their dishonesty rubs off on the populace?


Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?
 
KIA
2013-07-27 11:34:55 AM  
DC? Where the wealth of a plundered nation goes to die in a flurry of McMansions and lattes.
 
2013-07-27 11:35:10 AM  
I would love to see the results of all the test locations.
 
2013-07-27 11:35:29 AM  

Kevin72: Sounds like one of those psychology experiments that they do with college sophomores.


This.
 
2013-07-27 11:37:12 AM  

Heron: Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?


Are we talking about theft statistics or marketing sugar water?
 
2013-07-27 11:37:12 AM  
Politicians, yes, but what makes govt employees more dishonest than anyone else?
 
2013-07-27 11:39:14 AM  

Fallout Zone: Politicians, yes, but what makes govt employees more dishonest than anyone else?


Little or no accountability?
 
2013-07-27 11:40:25 AM  

rkiller1: Heron: Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?

Are we talking about theft statistics or marketing sugar water?


Hasn't the Federal Gov't. been doing both for quite some time now?
 
2013-07-27 11:44:53 AM  
I would be semi-honest in this situation.  $1 is quite a lot for tea.  I can make a gallon of it for pennies.  There is some convenience to the kiosk thing.  For that I might pay an extra 10 cents.  Therefore I would pay maybe one out of five times.  Thereby adjusting the price to something that is not fark me in the ass level of overpriced.
 
2013-07-27 11:44:53 AM  
Heron:

Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?

There is another issue with DC too, namely that people, especially corporations, give out free stuff all the time. Where was this placed? On the Mall? I'd assume it was free there too and that the dollars was just a "donation" for the "sample".
 
2013-07-27 11:46:02 AM  

Wook: Fallout Zone: Politicians, yes, but what makes govt employees more dishonest than anyone else?

Little or no accountability?


ding ding ding ding

+10 for answering in the form of a question, now on to the bonus round.
 
2013-07-27 11:46:47 AM  
Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories.

I would be interested in a race breakdown.
 
2013-07-27 11:48:36 AM  
Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories. Blondes were more honest (at 95%) than people with gray hair (92%), while women were 95% honest, surpassing men at 91%.

While I'm not the least surprised by the DC results, I have to wonder precisely what relevance those particular vectors have to a measurement of honesty.
 
2013-07-27 11:50:32 AM  
Giving away tea? Are they trying to get people shot?
 
2013-07-27 11:52:38 AM  

Ima4nic8or: I would be semi-honest in this situation.  $1 is quite a lot for tea.  I can make a gallon of it for pennies.  There is some convenience to the kiosk thing.  For that I might pay an extra 10 cents.  Therefore I would pay maybe one out of five times.  Thereby adjusting the price to something that is not fark me in the ass level of overpriced.




Do you live in DC?
 
2013-07-27 11:54:10 AM  
On phone, I got "this webpage doesn't exist" when clicking the link.

/it's a conspiracy!
 
2013-07-27 11:54:33 AM  
I'd love to see the results broken down by race as well, you know... just for fun.  Of course you'd have some idiot screaming how "the results are racist".

If they had people watching and keeping track -- I'd love to see them take a picture of each person with a telephoto lens blow it up, and post it on a billboard of common thieves.


Just think -- if we lived in a world where when you are caught stealing we chop off your hand, how the results would be no thefts at all. (or if there were -- there would be none after word got out that "stealing is bad".
 
2013-07-27 11:55:38 AM  
I am amazed that the 92% was even reached.

BTW is Washington DC the BLACKEST  city in America?? I visited recently and saw very few people of other races
 
2013-07-27 12:01:20 PM  
I blame all the lobbyists, CEO's and other assorted silver spoon types who congregate here like hair in the drain.
 
2013-07-27 12:02:42 PM  

HempHead: Ima4nic8or: I would be semi-honest in this situation.  $1 is quite a lot for tea.  I can make a gallon of it for pennies.  There is some convenience to the kiosk thing.  For that I might pay an extra 10 cents.  Therefore I would pay maybe one out of five times.  Thereby adjusting the price to something that is not fark me in the ass level of overpriced.

Do you live in DC?


+ 1

So you think that the price of fuel to deliver the bottles, the price of labor to setup the kiosk, and the price of manufacturing the bottles and labels, advertising for that particular brand, and a nice convenience charge, all comes to a grand total of 10 cents?.  Your logic would apply only if your 10 cent amount stayed the same and you lived in the 1920's.

What you are willing to pay vs the price is not a factor when it comes to taking something that does not belong to you. I have no idea what you do for a job or income, but you would surely be pissed if you had a customer or client who only thought your service/product was worth 25% of what you sell it for, then proceeded to steal from you using the same nubianrdly logic you employ.

And I'm using the 4th to last word not as anything racist - but as a fun way to properly convey an idea that will undoubtedly confuse and anger those less educated.
 
2013-07-27 12:17:49 PM  
I like experiments done that either tip toe or completely ignore what you want to measure.  Instead of getting important information like race, age and gender, lets get how long their hair was and what kind of watch they were wearing.  Because the other data could be seen as racists, sexists or ageist.  Finding out that your product was the most popular with Blonde haired people wearing a Timex is useless.  Also was the experiment trying to determine theft levels, whether people liked the drink, or what it should be priced at?  If the donation was at 75 cents the results would be different rather than where the kiosk was located.
 
2013-07-27 12:24:47 PM  

rkiller1: Heron: Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?

Are we talking about theft statistics or marketing sugar water?


Can't it be both?
 
2013-07-27 12:24:48 PM  
a cup of green tea is worth about $0.01
 
2013-07-27 12:25:46 PM  

IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: I like experiments done that either tip toe or completely ignore what you want to measure.  Instead of getting important information like race, age and gender, lets get how long their hair was and what kind of watch they were wearing.  Because the other data could be seen as racists, sexists or ageist.  Finding out that your product was the most popular with Blonde haired people wearing a Timex is useless.  Also was the experiment trying to determine theft levels, whether people liked the drink, or what it should be priced at?  If the donation was at 75 cents the results would be different rather than where the kiosk was located.


I doubt it was an experiment at all; it sounds far more like a marketing stunt.
 
2013-07-27 12:26:06 PM  

liam76: Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories.

I would be interested in a race breakdown.


Well, the top two states are places I would go to find non-white people. The next two are places I would go to find only white people. Maybe it's irrelevant?
 
2013-07-27 12:30:07 PM  

IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: I like experiments done that either tip toe or completely ignore what you want to measure.  Instead of getting important information like race, age and gender, lets get how long their hair was and what kind of watch they were wearing.  Because the other data could be seen as racists, sexists or ageist.  Finding out that your product was the most popular with Blonde haired people wearing a Timex is useless.  Also was the experiment trying to determine theft levels, whether people liked the drink, or what it should be priced at?  If the donation was at 75 cents the results would be different rather than where the kiosk was located.


Were you expecting a serious sociology experiment? This is to sociology as Cracked is to Internet journalism. It's just supposed to be fun and get people talking. Enjoy it for what it is.
 
2013-07-27 12:30:39 PM  

Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: [upload.wikimedia.org image 440x278]


Isn't the new NSA facility like 7-9 times larger than the Pentagon?
 
2013-07-27 12:31:25 PM  

mongbiohazard: I blame all the lobbyists, CEO's and other assorted silver spoon types who congregate here like hair in the drain.


I blame welfare.
 
2013-07-27 12:33:31 PM  

Rozinante: liam76: Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories.

I would be interested in a race breakdown.

Well, the top two states are places I would go to find non-white people. The next two are places I would go to find only white people. Maybe it's irrelevant?


Aren't Caucasians a minority in Texas?
 
2013-07-27 12:56:44 PM  

uber humper: Rozinante: liam76: Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories.

I would be interested in a race breakdown.

Well, the top two states are places I would go to find non-white people. The next two are places I would go to find only white people. Maybe it's irrelevant?

Aren't Caucasians a minority in Texas?


Depends, do you trust the "White American" and "Non-Hispanic Whites" breakdown census verbiage at all?
 
2013-07-27 01:03:57 PM  

tuna fingers: Depends, do you trust the "White American" and "Non-Hispanic Whites" breakdown census verbiage at all?


If it comes from the government, it's convoluted.  So, no.  But in responding to Rozinate's post that Texas is a place to go to ONLY find white people, he/she is far far off.
 
2013-07-27 01:08:41 PM  

Fallout Zone: Politicians, yes, but what makes govt employees more dishonest than anyone else?


Might makes right?
 
2013-07-27 01:09:24 PM  

uber humper: Rozinante: liam76: Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories.

I would be interested in a race breakdown.

Well, the top two states are places I would go to find non-white people. The next two are places I would go to find only white people. Maybe it's irrelevant?

Aren't Caucasians a minority in Texas?


Texas white population, 48.3%, latino 36%, black 11.4 %, other 5%.
 
2013-07-27 01:10:23 PM  
Louisiana, Arizona and Mississippi  - too stupid to steal.

In Texas, sweet iced tea should run for free from spigots and fountains.
 
2013-07-27 01:14:59 PM  

flyinglizard: Texas white population, 48.3%, latino 36%, black 11.4 %, other 5%.


Not far off.  As I think grade school students Latinos take the lead.

Another generation.  Or whenever amnesty passes. Makes no difference to me.

/I'm a proud Swiss-American, and as a Swiss-American I am defiantly a minority.
 
2013-07-27 01:27:40 PM  

uber humper: flyinglizard: Texas white population, 48.3%, latino 36%, black 11.4 %, other 5%.

Not far off.  As I think grade school students Latinos take the lead.

Another generation.  Or whenever amnesty passes. Makes no difference to me.

/I'm a proud Swiss-American, and as a Swiss-American I am defiantly a minority.


Is this Michele Bachmann's Fark login??!
 
2013-07-27 01:30:41 PM  

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: uber humper: flyinglizard: Texas white population, 48.3%, latino 36%, black 11.4 %, other 5%.

Not far off.  As I think grade school students Latinos take the lead.

Another generation.  Or whenever amnesty passes. Makes no difference to me.

/I'm a proud Swiss-American, and as a Swiss-American I am defiantly a minority.

Is this Michele Bachmann's Fark login??!


How do you mean?
 
2013-07-27 01:33:51 PM  

Wook: Fallout Zone: Politicians, yes, but what makes govt employees more dishonest than anyone else?

Little or no accountability?


What is a government employee in your mind? I can assure you that I am more accountable at my government job than I ever have been in the private sector:

-I hold two professional certifications that can be suspended/revoked due to bad behavior that occurs on or off the job.

-If I fail to do my job, firing is the least of my worry. I am sworn to do my job, which takes the consequences of negligence up a notch. It also means that someone has most likely died or been seriously injured through fault on my part. Both criminal and civil charges are easily imaginable should I fail to do my job.

-I was suspended without pay due to an arrest. It was a misuderstanding and the charges were dropped in less than two weeks. The charges were minor and had no bearing on my job, but I was suspended until a satisfactory disposition would be reached. In the private sector my employer would never have known about the arrest, let alone done anything about it. In my government job I informed my boss of the arrest myself, knowing that he would have to suspend me. Not informing him would have been grounds for disciplinary action.

No accountability, my ass.
 
2013-07-27 01:39:07 PM  

uber humper: Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: [upload.wikimedia.org image 440x278]

Isn't the new NSA facility like 7-9 times larger than the Pentagon?


I thought it was 9-11 times larger.
 
2013-07-27 01:42:07 PM  

Snarfangel: uber humper: Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: [upload.wikimedia.org image 440x278]

Isn't the new NSA facility like 7-9 times larger than the Pentagon?

I thought it was 9-11 times larger.


7 times ;)
http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2013/07/nsas-big-dig/67406/
 
2013-07-27 01:42:54 PM  

tampaflacouple: I am amazed that the 92% was even reached.

BTW is Washington DC the BLACKEST  city in America?? I visited recently and saw very few people of other races


Pretty sure it's East Orange, NJ. Something like 98% black.

Which happens to border Glen Ridge, NJ, which is 98% white.

Segregation, us Yankees can do it with the best of them!
 
2013-07-27 01:44:54 PM  

Heron: Millennium: animalmagnet: Correlation does not equal causation.  Just because some politicians may be dishonest does not mean that they are all dishonest, but if you're betting, go with the odds.

You know what they say to do when in Rome, though. It may be that politicians are the only dishonest people to move there in any significant numbers, but they serve as the city's main role models. Is it any wonder if some of their dishonesty rubs off on the populace?

Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?


Those "anecdotes" sound exactly like the observations recorded in any number of experiments in the social sciences. Anecdotes become data if they come from a repeatable trial, and you've repeated that trial many time, much like coke has hear.

So you say they aren't providing any evidence, once you dismiss the data, ie "numbers" they have provided.
 
2013-07-27 01:45:49 PM  

organizmx: tampaflacouple: I am amazed that the 92% was even reached.

BTW is Washington DC the BLACKEST  city in America?? I visited recently and saw very few people of other races

Pretty sure it's East Orange, NJ. Something like 98% black.

Which happens to border Glen Ridge, NJ, which is 98% white.

Segregation, us Yankees can do it with the best of them!


I'm guessing train tracks separate the two towns??
 
2013-07-27 02:14:01 PM  

Mrbogey: America has the gov't it demands.


"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard" - H.L Mencken. .
 
2013-07-27 02:28:50 PM  
FTA: "The most honest locations are Hawaii and Alabama"

Yeah, doubtful. We're just better at hiding the truth.

/From Alabama.
//The Southeast invented passive aggressiveness.
 
2013-07-27 02:33:03 PM  

uber humper: Rozinante: liam76: Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories.

I would be interested in a race breakdown.

Well, the top two states are places I would go to find non-white people. The next two are places I would go to find only white people. Maybe it's irrelevant?

Aren't Caucasians a minority in Texas?


Depends on where you go - I live in Dallas/Ft. worth and there are spots you can go if you want to see all black people, all white, all mexican, whatever.  I'm sure I'd be labeled a racist if I pointed out how "nice" each area is depending on which is the predominant race.

What I'm interested in is when white people become a statistical and true minority - will we be able to hold special race rallies and get special consideration for jobs/college/etc? Will I be able to use words that other colors are not supposed to use without fear of extreme judgement or social outcry?  Will I be able to hold a white power sign like black people hold a black power sign and be able to "get away with it"? And will I be able to father 10 kids by 10 women and have no responsibility to any of them? These are extreme sarcastic examples of course :)

I'm guessing not.

Despite my arguments I actually care little for color on any side - what I do care about is being a decent person, working hard, paying your bills, and not committing crime and generally being a drain on society, every color has groups that just fail at the basic understand of what it means to be a good human being, what proportion this group is vs the whole is where it gets interesting.  I'd love to get rid of all the pure white trash just as much as I'd love to get rid of the gangbanging black thugs but that will never happen.
 
2013-07-27 02:41:03 PM  

uber humper: mongbiohazard: I blame all the lobbyists, CEO's and other assorted silver spoon types who congregate here like hair in the drain.

I blame welfare.


Considering all the taxpayer wealth constantly being funnelled to the people I mentioned hand over fist, then I guess you blame the same people I do.

And I notice the thinly veiled undercurrent of racism in your posts. You should also note that the kiosks were set up in downtown business areas more packed with white people, not the areas where black people in DC live. DC is a diverse city, but the demographics change quite a bit depending on where you are and folks tend to self-segregate (though IMHO less so then in some other cities). Down among the capitol buildings and the mall isn't the same as SE and NE. Most likely the location was filled with lobbyists, executives, etc.... Probably a fair amount of tourists too.
 
2013-07-27 02:51:13 PM  

uber humper: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: uber humper: flyinglizard: Texas white population, 48.3%, latino 36%, black 11.4 %, other 5%.

Not far off.  As I think grade school students Latinos take the lead.

Another generation.  Or whenever amnesty passes. Makes no difference to me.

/I'm a proud Swiss-American, and as a Swiss-American I am defiantly a minority.

Is this Michele Bachmann's Fark login??!

How do you mean?


Doesn't she have dual Swiss-American citizenship?
 
2013-07-27 03:41:56 PM  

Rozinante: liam76: Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories.

I would be interested in a race breakdown.

Well, the top two states are places I would go to find non-white people. The next two are places I would go to find only white people. Maybe it's irrelevant?


Yeah, but either way it would be interesting to see it.
 
2013-07-27 03:51:42 PM  
"West Virginia was No. 2 behind the capital as the most dishonest region, with only 85% of consumers paying. Texas was the third, at 87%. "
-=-

A majority of scum lives in those places.
 
2013-07-27 04:01:01 PM  

mongbiohazard: uber humper: mongbiohazard: I blame all the lobbyists, CEO's and other assorted silver spoon types who congregate here like hair in the drain.

I blame welfare.

Considering all the taxpayer wealth constantly being funnelled to the people I mentioned hand over fist, then I guess you blame the same people I do.

And I notice the thinly veiled undercurrent of racism in your posts. You should also note that the kiosks were set up in downtown business areas more packed with white people, not the areas where black people in DC live. DC is a diverse city, but the demographics change quite a bit depending on where you are and folks tend to self-segregate (though IMHO less so then in some other cities). Down among the capitol buildings and the mall isn't the same as SE and NE. Most likely the location was filled with lobbyists, executives, etc.... Probably a fair amount of tourists too.


I don't have a problem with other races.  I have a problem with welfare keeping people down, keeping people on the government teat to control them.

As far as being racist, no.  I'll make racial jokes, for me not to would display an acknowledgement of the inferiority of the people that I avoid joking about. Everyone is the same, everyone is fair game.

I'd much rater live in a place with diversity than none.  In fact, I wish the borders were wide open to anyone.
 
2013-07-27 04:04:27 PM  

tampaflacouple: BTW is Washington DC the BLACKEST city in America?? I visited recently and saw very few people of other races


Yes but the white people are slowly reclaiming it via gentrification.

/it's a joke
//seriously though, go on WaPo and the comments section of any story involving gentrification turns into something about race
 
2013-07-27 05:30:35 PM  
Product placement is everything peoples! Like, were the Kiosks all in the same area of a state-say the state's capitol? Relative population density? Rural vs. City? Sure there was more theft in DC-but that town is one ol' tourist treadmill-some of the people taking that crap could have been......foreigners!!!! Or some folks figuring that for once, they were seeing their tax dollars at work and could enjoy a cold tea colored fluid on a typically hot, humid DC day, a town built on a drained swamp! Or, as posited in the article, people steal stuff.
 
2013-07-27 05:38:17 PM  

Mrtraveler01: tampaflacouple: BTW is Washington DC the BLACKEST city in America?? I visited recently and saw very few people of other races

Yes but the white people are slowly reclaiming it via gentrification.

/it's a joke
//seriously though, go on WaPo and the comments section of any story involving gentrification turns into something about race


"I Won't Let D.C. Lose Its Flavor," Natalie Hopkinson Link

"In the small act of choosing to buy our home where we did, I believe that we became part of a growing group of African Americans who are picking up where the civil rights movement left off. From our perspective, integration is overrated. It's time to reverse an earlier generation's hopeful migration into white communities and attend to some unfinished business in the 'hood. . . . We not only have to invest in the inner city, but we can't let white people beat us to it. . . . We wanted to hold a line, stake out our turf." This is "Chocolate City," Hopkinson wrote. Will it turn to vanilla? "Not if I have anything to say about it. . . . It's our responsibility as black people to return to these historically black communities that are finally rebounding. . . . There is a real sense among black Washingtonians that the city is slipping away from us."

"We got to do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops," "They ought to go. I'm going to say that right now. But we need African-American businesspeople to be able to take their places, too." - Former District of Columbia mayor Marion Barry after winning the city's Council Ward 8 primary, demanding that "they ought to go,".
 
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