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(MSN)   By a strange coincidence America's most dishonest city also has the most politicians and government employees per capita   (money.msn.com) divider line 75
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2013-07-27 08:18:56 AM
Sounds like one of those psychology experiments that they do with college sophomores.
 
2013-07-27 09:02:55 AM
By a strange coincidence subby has never been to DC.
 
2013-07-27 09:12:28 AM
They even stole the CEO's bike. Hysterical.
 
2013-07-27 09:21:44 AM
By another strange coincidence, that's almost the same as Congress' disapproval rating.
 
2013-07-27 09:32:02 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-27 10:30:07 AM
America has the gov't it demands.
 
2013-07-27 11:13:47 AM
I wonder how they determined the city of residence of those who took a beverage.
 
2013-07-27 11:14:21 AM
Correlation does not equal causation.  Just because some politicians may be dishonest does not mean that they are all dishonest, but if you're betting, go with the odds.
 
2013-07-27 11:14:38 AM
Threadjack to turn this into political rich vs poor or race vs race derp in 3...2...
 
2013-07-27 11:18:22 AM
That's nothing, here in Charlotte they would have taken the entire kiosks !

D.C. got nothing on us..........
 
2013-07-27 11:19:29 AM
Put it on Wall Street next !
 
2013-07-27 11:20:35 AM

". Blondes were more honest (at 95%) than people with gray hair ..."


They could have put up a sign saying blonde women could take a drink if they showed their boobs, and they would have done so.

It's funny that in Massachusetts one guy in a suit stole from the stand 13 times. Was he a hobo with a suit or did the guy actually have a job that gave him so many breaks?

 
2013-07-27 11:22:15 AM

rkiller1: Threadjack to turn this into political rich vs poor or race vs race derp in 3...2...


..1..

Well of course the bike was stolen. It couldn't be affirmatively actioned or welfared into existence, right? AMIRITE?
 
2013-07-27 11:22:24 AM
Thanks, but I'm not going to rely on a corp that sells piss-tainted sugar-water through false nostalgia and friendly polar bears to tell me about honesty.
 
2013-07-27 11:22:31 AM

animalmagnet: Correlation does not equal causation.  Just because some politicians may be dishonest does not mean that they are all dishonest, but if you're betting, go with the odds.


You know what they say to do when in Rome, though. It may be that politicians are the only dishonest people to move there in any significant numbers, but they serve as the city's main role models. Is it any wonder if some of their dishonesty rubs off on the populace?
 
2013-07-27 11:23:50 AM

DoctorCal: I wonder how they determined the city of residence of those who took a beverage.


Good point.  The DC that tourists see is a whole different city from the DC most residents live in.  Where they put the kiosks would make all the difference.
 
2013-07-27 11:24:08 AM
Not Chicago? Huh...
 
2013-07-27 11:24:56 AM
Obvious tag last seen fapping furiously over this one.
 
2013-07-27 11:24:56 AM

Heron: Thanks, but I'm not going to rely on a corp that sells piss-tainted sugar-water through false nostalgia and friendly polar bears to tell me about honesty.


Who pissed in your sugar water?
 
2013-07-27 11:26:00 AM

DoctorCal: I wonder how they determined the city of residence of those who took a beverage.


Good point. D.C. is full of tourists, but also criminals, lots of criminals.
 
2013-07-27 11:28:54 AM

rkiller1: Threadjack to turn this into political rich vs poor or race vs race derp in 3...2...


10por15.net
DC has the political rich AND black people.
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Montgomery County has (IIRC) the most rich black people in the country.
 
2013-07-27 11:34:53 AM

Millennium: animalmagnet: Correlation does not equal causation.  Just because some politicians may be dishonest does not mean that they are all dishonest, but if you're betting, go with the odds.

You know what they say to do when in Rome, though. It may be that politicians are the only dishonest people to move there in any significant numbers, but they serve as the city's main role models. Is it any wonder if some of their dishonesty rubs off on the populace?


Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?
 
KIA
2013-07-27 11:34:55 AM
DC? Where the wealth of a plundered nation goes to die in a flurry of McMansions and lattes.
 
2013-07-27 11:35:10 AM
I would love to see the results of all the test locations.
 
2013-07-27 11:35:29 AM

Kevin72: Sounds like one of those psychology experiments that they do with college sophomores.


This.
 
2013-07-27 11:37:12 AM

Heron: Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?


Are we talking about theft statistics or marketing sugar water?
 
2013-07-27 11:37:12 AM
Politicians, yes, but what makes govt employees more dishonest than anyone else?
 
2013-07-27 11:39:14 AM

Fallout Zone: Politicians, yes, but what makes govt employees more dishonest than anyone else?


Little or no accountability?
 
2013-07-27 11:40:25 AM

rkiller1: Heron: Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?

Are we talking about theft statistics or marketing sugar water?


Hasn't the Federal Gov't. been doing both for quite some time now?
 
2013-07-27 11:44:53 AM
I would be semi-honest in this situation.  $1 is quite a lot for tea.  I can make a gallon of it for pennies.  There is some convenience to the kiosk thing.  For that I might pay an extra 10 cents.  Therefore I would pay maybe one out of five times.  Thereby adjusting the price to something that is not fark me in the ass level of overpriced.
 
2013-07-27 11:44:53 AM
Heron:

Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?

There is another issue with DC too, namely that people, especially corporations, give out free stuff all the time. Where was this placed? On the Mall? I'd assume it was free there too and that the dollars was just a "donation" for the "sample".
 
2013-07-27 11:46:02 AM

Wook: Fallout Zone: Politicians, yes, but what makes govt employees more dishonest than anyone else?

Little or no accountability?


ding ding ding ding

+10 for answering in the form of a question, now on to the bonus round.
 
2013-07-27 11:46:47 AM
Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories.

I would be interested in a race breakdown.
 
2013-07-27 11:48:36 AM
Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories. Blondes were more honest (at 95%) than people with gray hair (92%), while women were 95% honest, surpassing men at 91%.

While I'm not the least surprised by the DC results, I have to wonder precisely what relevance those particular vectors have to a measurement of honesty.
 
2013-07-27 11:50:32 AM
Giving away tea? Are they trying to get people shot?
 
2013-07-27 11:52:38 AM

Ima4nic8or: I would be semi-honest in this situation.  $1 is quite a lot for tea.  I can make a gallon of it for pennies.  There is some convenience to the kiosk thing.  For that I might pay an extra 10 cents.  Therefore I would pay maybe one out of five times.  Thereby adjusting the price to something that is not fark me in the ass level of overpriced.




Do you live in DC?
 
2013-07-27 11:54:10 AM
On phone, I got "this webpage doesn't exist" when clicking the link.

/it's a conspiracy!
 
2013-07-27 11:54:33 AM
I'd love to see the results broken down by race as well, you know... just for fun.  Of course you'd have some idiot screaming how "the results are racist".

If they had people watching and keeping track -- I'd love to see them take a picture of each person with a telephoto lens blow it up, and post it on a billboard of common thieves.


Just think -- if we lived in a world where when you are caught stealing we chop off your hand, how the results would be no thefts at all. (or if there were -- there would be none after word got out that "stealing is bad".
 
2013-07-27 11:55:38 AM
I am amazed that the 92% was even reached.

BTW is Washington DC the BLACKEST  city in America?? I visited recently and saw very few people of other races
 
2013-07-27 12:01:20 PM
I blame all the lobbyists, CEO's and other assorted silver spoon types who congregate here like hair in the drain.
 
2013-07-27 12:02:42 PM

HempHead: Ima4nic8or: I would be semi-honest in this situation.  $1 is quite a lot for tea.  I can make a gallon of it for pennies.  There is some convenience to the kiosk thing.  For that I might pay an extra 10 cents.  Therefore I would pay maybe one out of five times.  Thereby adjusting the price to something that is not fark me in the ass level of overpriced.

Do you live in DC?


+ 1

So you think that the price of fuel to deliver the bottles, the price of labor to setup the kiosk, and the price of manufacturing the bottles and labels, advertising for that particular brand, and a nice convenience charge, all comes to a grand total of 10 cents?.  Your logic would apply only if your 10 cent amount stayed the same and you lived in the 1920's.

What you are willing to pay vs the price is not a factor when it comes to taking something that does not belong to you. I have no idea what you do for a job or income, but you would surely be pissed if you had a customer or client who only thought your service/product was worth 25% of what you sell it for, then proceeded to steal from you using the same nubianrdly logic you employ.

And I'm using the 4th to last word not as anything racist - but as a fun way to properly convey an idea that will undoubtedly confuse and anger those less educated.
 
2013-07-27 12:17:49 PM
I like experiments done that either tip toe or completely ignore what you want to measure.  Instead of getting important information like race, age and gender, lets get how long their hair was and what kind of watch they were wearing.  Because the other data could be seen as racists, sexists or ageist.  Finding out that your product was the most popular with Blonde haired people wearing a Timex is useless.  Also was the experiment trying to determine theft levels, whether people liked the drink, or what it should be priced at?  If the donation was at 75 cents the results would be different rather than where the kiosk was located.
 
2013-07-27 12:24:47 PM

rkiller1: Heron: Coke isn't even providing any evidence to back these claims. They throw out a bundle of numbers and anecdotes and that's supposed to be convincing?

Are we talking about theft statistics or marketing sugar water?


Can't it be both?
 
2013-07-27 12:24:48 PM
a cup of green tea is worth about $0.01
 
2013-07-27 12:25:46 PM

IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: I like experiments done that either tip toe or completely ignore what you want to measure.  Instead of getting important information like race, age and gender, lets get how long their hair was and what kind of watch they were wearing.  Because the other data could be seen as racists, sexists or ageist.  Finding out that your product was the most popular with Blonde haired people wearing a Timex is useless.  Also was the experiment trying to determine theft levels, whether people liked the drink, or what it should be priced at?  If the donation was at 75 cents the results would be different rather than where the kiosk was located.


I doubt it was an experiment at all; it sounds far more like a marketing stunt.
 
2013-07-27 12:26:06 PM

liam76: Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories.

I would be interested in a race breakdown.


Well, the top two states are places I would go to find non-white people. The next two are places I would go to find only white people. Maybe it's irrelevant?
 
2013-07-27 12:30:07 PM

IBelieveYouHaveMyStapler: I like experiments done that either tip toe or completely ignore what you want to measure.  Instead of getting important information like race, age and gender, lets get how long their hair was and what kind of watch they were wearing.  Because the other data could be seen as racists, sexists or ageist.  Finding out that your product was the most popular with Blonde haired people wearing a Timex is useless.  Also was the experiment trying to determine theft levels, whether people liked the drink, or what it should be priced at?  If the donation was at 75 cents the results would be different rather than where the kiosk was located.


Were you expecting a serious sociology experiment? This is to sociology as Cracked is to Internet journalism. It's just supposed to be fun and get people talking. Enjoy it for what it is.
 
2013-07-27 12:30:39 PM

Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: [upload.wikimedia.org image 440x278]


Isn't the new NSA facility like 7-9 times larger than the Pentagon?
 
2013-07-27 12:31:25 PM

mongbiohazard: I blame all the lobbyists, CEO's and other assorted silver spoon types who congregate here like hair in the drain.


I blame welfare.
 
2013-07-27 12:33:31 PM

Rozinante: liam76: Consumers were noted according to gender, hair color, hair length, facial hair and accessories.

I would be interested in a race breakdown.

Well, the top two states are places I would go to find non-white people. The next two are places I would go to find only white people. Maybe it's irrelevant?


Aren't Caucasians a minority in Texas?
 
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