Popcorn Johnny: I shop there at least a few times a month, suck it.
OregonVet: Why not just raise minimum wage?
meat0918: Wait, people still defend Wal-Mart?I mean besides stock-holders?
meanmutton: Every other store you shop at has employment practices effectively the same as WalMart.
TuteTibiImperes: BMFPitt: I came to refute the derp, but then it was a video so fark that until someone makes a list.No derp, just facts like Wal-Mart drives local businesses out of business and despite record profits still pays so little that in many states Wal-Mart employees are the largest group on public assistance. Just getting the message out there that the low prices you pay have a hidden cost in your tax dollars because Wal-Mart won't pay enough for employees to live without government funded assistance.
pueblonative: Brostorm: pueblonative: Brostorm: People that work at walmart tend to have made poor decisions, like having kids they could not afford. Ye, I get it, Walmart is evil. These people would not be in poverty i they did not have children they could not afford, Walmart isn't forcing them to have children.Having children is evil? Wow, that really puts a spin on the whole pro-life movement in this country. Those people are farking satanists! Or maybe it's the poor decision making. Well, if they made the wrong choice, then the decision should be to give them more choices, now, isn't it. You know, maybe a way to control when they have the birth of a child to a more fortunate time when they can fully afford the expense. Cause clearly they can't go up and demand a raise, now, can they? What was that saying, "A communist is any son of a biatch who wants a quarter when we're paying a dime!"Children born in poverty are worse off than crack babies, subjecting a child to a life of poverty is evil.So Jesus' parents were the most evil motherfarkers on the planet?
whidbey: Ablejack: Yeah, they (Starbucks) actually treat their employees pretty well too. I was being sarcastic as a tactic to argue against the claim that every store or shop is as crappy as Wal-Mart.The really funny thing about Charbucks is that despite their corporate behemoth overlord status, you can't hardly spit in Seattle without hitting a mom-and-pop espresso cart/business/empire.
12349876: Popcorn Johnny: ghare: Unemployed, or on disability?I'm on the higher end of the average Farker pay scale, that doesn't mean I'm not going to shop smart. If you feel superior by paying more for what you buy, rock on with your bad selfSome of us take more than price into account like a shopping experience that isn't shiatty. Wal Mart has gotten shiatty to the point where it's gotten worse than farking KMart. And I'm saying this as someone who enjoyed Wal Mart 15 years ago.
kab: Man, this thread got the shills out in no time at all.
Brostorm: People that work at walmart tend to have made poor decisions, like having kids they could not afford. Ye, I get it, Walmart is evil. These people would not be in poverty i they did not have children they could not afford, Walmart isn't forcing them to have children.
Jon iz teh kewl: i shop at J-mart
tenpoundsofcheese: gnosis301: tenpoundsofcheese: No.Captain Dan: What you read as "pride" is mostly backlash against the nosy liberals who want to impose their preferences on other people.Looks as though some people doshop at Wal-Mart to stick it to the libs.Why did you edit what I wrote to make a different point?I said "No. To save money (EDLP) and for the selection. "Libs don't influence where I shop.
Captain Dan: because it's a financial decision,
John Buck 41: Ed Grubermann: Debeo Summa Credo: Its not walmarts fault.[www.trilobite.org image 440x500]It very much is WalMart's fault they do everything they can o avoid paying their employees a living wage. And this is after they've driven the stores that did pay a living wage out of business.Do you really think Ed's Hardware or Joe's Market paid their employees a higher wage than Walmart? Really?
bbfreak: Also of note for all those who are against welfare. The future is upon us. Automation is taking more and more jobs, which technically is a good thing, but only if we come to the realization that there aren't enough good paying jobs to go around. How we'll solve this issue I'm not sure, but its a reality that we'll be facing very soon.
Descartes: When it's cheaper at Target, I'll buy it there.
tbhouston: lawboy87: Costco, which has very loyal and happy employees who are paid well above the average for retail, for comparison: Stock price - 10 yrs ago: $31, today's close $116 (375% return on investment)WalMart - with shoddy stores, unhappy employees and a pay and benefits package that barely beats out some 3rd world nations: Stock price- 10 yrs ago $55, today's close $78 (141% ROI)Which business model seems to be the most successful? Paying your employees such a crap wage that you tend to draw the worst dregs of the employee market to man your stores; or providing a pay and benefits package that leads to having one of the highest employee retention and job satisfaction rates in retail?How can the "geniuses" that run WalMart not see what is plain on its face? More importantly, how can someone analyzing the retail market place looking for a place to buy some stock, not see that Costco provides close to 3 times the ROI than WalMart?Oh look, it's that durrrrtard that compares Costco to Walmart instead of SAMs club.....
Oh, you wanna compare Sam's Club? Okay, we'll compare Sam's Club.What's your comeback now?
Captain Dan: Walmart is awesome. The exact same products I'd buy elsewhere, for less money - that's a no-brainer. If you don't like it, shop elsewhere.With a few exceptions, most of the opposition to Walmart is either political (anti-free trade left) or fronting ("I pay extra for my invisible clothing because I'm morally enlightened").
Debeo Summa Credo: Its not walmarts fault.
LL316: Popcorn Johnny: I shop there at least a few times a month, suck it.Me too. Paying more for something just to say you're paying more for it is stupid.
John Buck 41: ghare: I'm sure you weren't aware that Wal-Mart does in fact sell watered-down versions of things like shampoo,Care to back that up?
silvervial: Lackofname: I will say when I lived in NY and MD, I was happy to not be shopping at Walmart. But since I had to move back in with my parents in Tennessee, Walmart is really the only game around. Also since I can't drive I don't really get to choose where groceries are gotten.This is actually how Walmart grew into such a powerhouse, enough to earn the praises of deluded shills like Debeo Summa Credo. They drive the competition out of town and end up being the only game around. This is pretty much the *opposite* of the kind of capitalism that people *think* we have.
Debeo Summa Credo: Its not walmarts fault.
Debeo Summa Credo: Sergeant Grumbles: SirGeorgeBurkelwitzIII: I disagree with about 95% of what you post on Fark, but this thread is ridiculous. Everyone is jumping all over your ass because you shop at Wal Mart because its the economically sound decision. You're not even defending their business practices, just saying you shop there because its cheaper (as anyone smart with their money would do).And if you'd understood anything you read, you'd see that everyone is mentioning the hidden price of shopping there, mainly via taxes to support Wal-Mart's poverty wages.SirGeorgeBurkelwitzIII: People around here can be so farking stupid.Right back at ya.Don't like subsidizing the workers? Cut the farking subsidy!!!Its not walmarts fault. If Walmart wasnt around, we'd be paying even more to support these people, and every other poor person who now shops at Walmart would have a harder time making ends meet!
Snarfangel: If Wal-Mart shuts down, those "People of Wal-Mart" will have to shop somewhere else.
Alphax: Seems it's been many years since I heard that vendors wishing to get Walmart to carry their product were turned away if American labor was used, and told to get their products made in China.
silvervial: Popcorn Johnny: I shop there at least a few times a month, suck it.I have never set foot in a Walmart and I don't even know where one is located in my vicinity.Suck it.
ghare: TuteTibiImperes: BMFPitt: I came to refute the derp, but then it was a video so fark that until someone makes a list.No derp, just facts like Wal-Mart drives local businesses out of business and despite record profits still pays so little that in many states Wal-Mart employees are the largest group on public assistance. Just getting the message out there that the low prices you pay have a hidden cost in your tax dollars because Wal-Mart won't pay enough for employees to live without government funded assistance.This is exactly what happens to the "savings" taxpayers get when things are privatized. Your taxes don't actually go down, and your service doesn't go up, when all the externalities are actually considered.
peacheslatour: Popcorn Johnny: I shop there at least a few times a month, suck it.You would.
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