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2013-07-27 05:24:42 PM

soup sandwich: silvervial: Popcorn Johnny: I shop there at least a few times a month, suck it.

I have never set foot in a Walmart and I don't even know where one is located in my vicinity.

Suck it.

hipster sez: "  i dont even know who this Walmart is; pass the latte"


I went to a Walmart in St. Ann, MO a couple of times.. didn't enjoy either time.  After they sucked all the money out of St. Ann, and closed the mall across the street, they packed up and moved farther west into Bridgeton.  I've yet to visit the new location, or to bother figuring out exactly where it is.  They'll probably move again, after that town can't afford them anymore.
 
2013-07-27 05:27:02 PM
Just got back from Walmart. Scored some good deals, including a couple of awesome looking Sirloins. Can't wait to enjoy them later on with a nice glass of Farker's tears.
 
2013-07-27 05:27:49 PM

Ablejack: OgreMagi: Ablejack: The My Little Pony Killer: meanmutton: Every other store you shop at has employment practices effectively the same as WalMart.

You have a citation for this tidbit?

Sure, just look at Starbucks, the other giant Mom & Pop killer.

Except the reality is the exact opposite.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/hey_wait_a_minute/20 07 /12/dont_fear_starbucks.html

Yeah, they (Starbucks) actually treat their employees pretty well too. I was being sarcastic as a tactic to argue against the claim that every store or shop is as crappy as Wal-Mart.


Sorry, my sarcasto-meter needs recalibration.
 
2013-07-27 05:57:23 PM

YoOjo: The first second of that video scared me so I turned it off and won't watch it, seriously it sounded like a monster farting.


How do you know what that sounds like?
 
2013-07-27 06:25:36 PM

whidbey: Ablejack: Yeah, they (Starbucks) actually treat their employees pretty well too. I was being sarcastic as a tactic to argue against the claim that every store or shop is as crappy as Wal-Mart.

The really funny thing about Charbucks is that despite their corporate behemoth overlord status, you can't hardly spit in Seattle without hitting a mom-and-pop espresso cart/business/empire.


And most of the those mom-and-pop outfits pay only minimum wage and offer zero benefits.  But the hipsters can sit in them drinking a latte that cost even more than the one a starbucks and biatch about how evil the large corporation is and how it enslaves the workers.

I'm not in Seattle, but the mom-and-pop shop I tried here is crap.  The mocha tastes like it was made with rancid milk.  I tried them twice, thinking the first time was an off day.  Nope.  The second one was rancid, too.  So now I drive an extra block to go to starbucks.
 
2013-07-27 06:33:36 PM

rewind2846: The concepts of time and "what happens next" are lost on people like the one you responded to. It's like the morans who may see someone using EBT at the grocery store, and then driving away in a late model (<5 years) car. It never occurs to them that the car may be paid off, and that the person using EBT may have lost their job after the fact. The car doesn't simply disappear once a person files for assistance, nor do the decent clothes, the flat panel tv, or anything else they owned prior to becoming unemployed. Kids work that way too, but of course the welfare WHHAAARRGARBL happens anyway.


You're ignoring the people, some of whom are posting in this thread, who seriously believe the car, TV, and everything else of value owned previously should be sold off before collecting welfare of any kind.
 
2013-07-27 06:49:35 PM
Americans love cheap shiat, and the cheaper and shiatier it is, the more they are in LOOOOVVVEEEE!
 
2013-07-27 07:04:11 PM
Nobody cares if Wal-Mart workers are on welfare.  Close to half the country is not paying any federal income taxes to begin with, and at least that many are not paying any state taxes either.  Who cares if Wal-Mart workers are on welfare if you're helping pick up the tab for them and you still get to buy low priced shiat.
 
2013-07-27 07:05:13 PM

cchris_39: Nobody cares if Wal-Mart workers are on welfare.  Close to half the country is not paying any federal income taxes to begin with, and at least that many are not paying any state taxes either.  Who cares if Wal-Mart workers are on welfare if you're helping pick up the tab for them and you still get to buy low priced shiat.


Basically, the people who have to pay increased taxes to cover the walmart shortfall don't generally shop at walmart.
 
2013-07-27 07:19:29 PM
cchris_39:blah...blah....blah.....low priced shiat.

Shiat.
 
2013-07-27 07:34:07 PM
Not a huge fan myself, but I"d say there's a hell of a lot more than five defenders of the top retailer in the world....
 
2013-07-27 07:36:56 PM

OgreMagi: I'm not in Seattle, but the mom-and-pop shop I tried here is crap.



You're too far down geographically. The quality tends to diminish.
 
2013-07-27 08:28:56 PM
So, what's the downside of Wal Mart paying their workers a few bucks more? Obviously, schadenfreude seems to be a motive for some to shop there, but that's not something that motivates most people.
 
2013-07-27 08:37:22 PM
tenpoundsofcheese:
  Walmart's Earnings Per Share is much higher than Costco. (5.07 vs. 4.54)

So tell me again, how Costco is getting more out of their workers?


So if Costco did a 1:2 reverse stock split to double their EPS, they would instantly be "getting more out of their workers"?
 
2013-07-27 08:40:07 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Just got back from Walmart. Scored some good deals, including a couple of awesome looking Sirloins. Can't wait to enjoy them later on with a nice glass of Farker's tears.


It sucks that you're so poor you eat meat from Walmart.  Don't worry man, it will get better.
 
2013-07-27 08:55:42 PM

balloot: It sucks that you're so poor you eat meat from Walmart.  Don't worry man, it will get better.


Want to compare bank accounts?
 
2013-07-27 09:27:09 PM

Popcorn Johnny: balloot: It sucks that you're so poor you eat meat from Walmart.  Don't worry man, it will get better.

Want to compare bank accounts?


I forgive you.  I'd get all pissy and defensive too if I was eating meat from Walmart for dinner.
 
2013-07-27 10:00:19 PM
Re: "Chinese products" referred to in TFA.  Do they mean iphones, lenovo computers, stuff like that?  Whenever I hear someone act like 'chinese made = crap', I think back to when we felt that way about Japanese stuff, then Korean stuff.

/Russian stuff remains crap forever.
 
2013-07-27 10:09:56 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Selena Luna: Over time, it costs considerably more. When the only clothes I could afford were WalMart clothes, I was replacing them all the time. I can afford better clothes now and they last much longer. I realize this is an anecdote, but it's also the case with most of the crap. Your money doesn't go further there.

Most of what Walmart sells is the same as what you would find at any other store. There are some exceptions, especially with electronics where companies will make models specifically for Walmart so they can offer them at lower prices. As for consumables, brand name clothes and most other things, you're getting the same thing you would at other stores. Walmart is able to offer the items at a lower price because they buy in such bulk.


Ah, I see you have no idea what you're talking about.  Judging by what you post in this thread in general, it's little surprise.

Walmart has succeeded in getting a large number of major brands to produce cut-rate and much reduced quality versions of their products in order to sell on Walmart's shelves, in order to make Walmart's pricing demands.  Levis is one of them.  Same with brands of lawnmowers, electronics, and many other things.  You simply cannot be assured you are buying the same quality good in a Walmart as you are elsewhere simply because the brand is the same.

Whether in the long run this erodes the public's faith in these brands will be interesting to see.  Certainly Walmart itself doesn't care.
 
2013-07-27 10:12:14 PM
 
2013-07-27 10:23:49 PM

OgreMagi: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Same with brands of lawnmowers

But not Snapper!

http://www.fastcompany.com/54763/man-who-said-no-wal-mart


This is one of my favorite stories ever, and I highly recommend it to anybody that hasn't read it yet. If you already have, read it again.
 
2013-07-27 10:26:39 PM

meanmutton: Every other store you shop at has employment practices effectively the same as WalMart.


As the manager of four retail establishments right now... you couldn't be more wrong. Not a single person on my payroll makes minimum wage, nobody who has been there for more than a year makes less than 10 an hour, everyone has the option of opting in to the health insurance, and I have never once asked someone to work off the clock... to be more to the point, I would fire any manager who asked employees to work off the clock, and I would write up any employee who did so without a managers knowledge. I am considerate in scheduling, and I have never done (what I had done to me) any schedules that had people involuntarily working clopens, or arbitrarily put people in departments or areas where I felt their personal skillset was better utilized elsewhere. I have never used profanity to describe another employee, I have never once even considered paying someone of a different gender differently based on that.

More than just actions though, there is a deeper difference between how I operate and how some big-box stores operate. I'm a firm believer that people live up to, or down to, expectations. I pay more because I want employees who know that the job their doing is worth more, that they are worth more. When I was lower on the totem pole, I did not understand how managers expected people to look out for the companies best interest when nobody was looking out for theirs... as a manager, I still don't, so I try my best to look out for peoples best interest, and to help them. Sometimes that means little things like switching schedules so someone can have the same days off as a loved one... other times it means buying someone a cheap bike so they can get to and from work more easily. The thing is, for all the talk of "teamwork" and "values" that saturate those shiatty stores... they don't value employees, and management could give two shiats about you (how's that for a teammate).

With respect to buying and pressuring buyers... I turn the screws for products made in America... I go out of my way to explain supply chain management and transportation cost delays (e.g. when we ran out of facemasks this winter for weeks in a row) such that buyers understand that saving a few pennies per unit isn't worth the overall cost of having a months-long kink in our supply chain when we need stuff *now.* Wal-Mart is... a prime case for this... they understaff their stores, they under-buy their quotas (as evidenced by the numerous claims in this thread of baron shelves)... they've cut costs to the point that they are ready to weather any bad storm... they're ready for bad days... but they aren't at all ready to succeed... they lack the personnel, the product, and the know-how to actually have any kind of decent impact beyond their incessant normal slow growth of capitalizing on the people with the lowest disposable incomes. The reality for Wal-Mart is that they leave money on the table because their mentality is that it doesn't matter... they don't care that on a good day, if they saw an uptick of say 30% traffic lasting a couple weeks... they don't care if customers can't get service, can't find product, or whatever... they don't see that opportunity cost as a loss... all they focus on is what product actually moved. It may not bite them in the ass now, but eventually it will. Fortunately, the void is easy to fill... mom and pop stores will start up again as Wal-Mart falters, and contrary to the assessment of the blow-hards, the downfall of Wall-mart will not be detrimental to the rest of the economy at all, the jobs will just be in more, smaller, more agile (in the business sense) stores that actually respond to customer needs.
 
2013-07-27 11:37:12 PM

Brostorm: pueblonative: Brostorm: People that work at walmart tend to have made poor decisions, like having kids they could not afford.  Ye, I get it, Walmart is evil.  These people would not be in poverty i they did not have children they could not afford, Walmart isn't forcing them to have children.

Having children is evil?  Wow, that really puts a spin on the whole pro-life movement in this country.  Those people are farking satanists!  Or maybe it's the poor decision making.  Well, if they made the wrong choice, then the decision should be to give them more choices, now, isn't it.  You know, maybe a way to control when they have the birth of a child to a more fortunate time when they can fully afford the expense.  Cause clearly they can't go up and demand a raise, now, can they?  What was that saying, "A communist is any son of a biatch who wants a quarter when we're paying a dime!"

Children born in poverty are worse off than crack babies, subjecting a child to a life of poverty is evil.


So Jesus' parents were the most evil motherfarkers on the planet?
 
2013-07-27 11:40:10 PM

firefly212: meanmutton: Every other store you shop at has employment practices effectively the same as WalMart.

As the manager of four retail establishments right now...


Too long (but I did read).

I like to go to small shops when feasible.  For example, I bought my vacuum at a local mom and pop store.  It was expensive, but I wanted a high end vacuum because the box store model I bought pooped out after a year.  It simple could not handle a household with three cats.  So I spent the big bucks on a high end product, a Riccar, after the shop owner gave me his sells pitch (which was simply listing its features and warranty).  It has a lifetime guarantee.  It also, at no extra charge, includes yearly maintenance provided by this little shop.  A friend with even more furry pets borrowed my vacuum.  The next week he went to that same shop and bought an even higher end model of the same brand.

The big box stores, and especially Walmart, do not provide that kind of service.  They want you to buy something and get the hell out, only to return when you need to buy more stuff.  I'm not completely against the big stores.  Whenever I need to get casual clothes, I pop over to Target for Wrangler jeans and polo shirts, but never for anything fancy.
 
2013-07-28 12:16:09 AM

pueblonative: Brostorm: pueblonative: Brostorm: People that work at walmart tend to have made poor decisions, like having kids they could not afford.  Ye, I get it, Walmart is evil.  These people would not be in poverty i they did not have children they could not afford, Walmart isn't forcing them to have children.

Having children is evil?  Wow, that really puts a spin on the whole pro-life movement in this country.  Those people are farking satanists!  Or maybe it's the poor decision making.  Well, if they made the wrong choice, then the decision should be to give them more choices, now, isn't it.  You know, maybe a way to control when they have the birth of a child to a more fortunate time when they can fully afford the expense.  Cause clearly they can't go up and demand a raise, now, can they?  What was that saying, "A communist is any son of a biatch who wants a quarter when we're paying a dime!"

Children born in poverty are worse off than crack babies, subjecting a child to a life of poverty is evil.

So Jesus' parents were the most evil motherfarkers on the planet?


He ranks right up here with Bruce Waynes parents, they weren't real.http://articles.philly.com/2013-07-22/news/40709969_1_hallam-hur t-so-c alled-crack-babies-funded-study
 
2013-07-28 12:49:20 AM

pueblonative: Brostorm: pueblonative: Brostorm: People that work at walmart tend to have made poor decisions, like having kids they could not afford.  Ye, I get it, Walmart is evil.  These people would not be in poverty i they did not have children they could not afford, Walmart isn't forcing them to have children.

Having children is evil?  Wow, that really puts a spin on the whole pro-life movement in this country.  Those people are farking satanists!  Or maybe it's the poor decision making.  Well, if they made the wrong choice, then the decision should be to give them more choices, now, isn't it.  You know, maybe a way to control when they have the birth of a child to a more fortunate time when they can fully afford the expense.  Cause clearly they can't go up and demand a raise, now, can they?  What was that saying, "A communist is any son of a biatch who wants a quarter when we're paying a dime!"

Children born in poverty are worse off than crack babies, subjecting a child to a life of poverty is evil.

So Jesus' parents were the most evil motherfarkers on the planet?


In all fairness, Jesus was a rape baby, and our country was constructed by people who pay homage to the rapist.
 
2013-07-28 01:25:58 AM

HeartBurnKid: SkorzenyNinja: They get about $10.50-$11 an hour I believe, full time with health insurance and all after five years with the company.

It took 5 years to get to that point?  Sorry, but she got gypped.  I work in an inbound call center for a hotel chain, and our reps hit that point within 90 days.

/they start out full time at $10 an hour
//after 90 days, they get health insurance and a $0.50 raise
///and then they get performance bonuses on top of that


I went to an Aldi's today, for the first time. There was a sign out front said they're hiring at $12 an hour. When I went in to shop, the employees were working really hard. Damn, that is a bare-bones place, but it's definitely cheap, and the poor people do shop there.
 
2013-07-28 01:28:17 AM

rewind2846: The concepts of time and "what happens next" are lost on people like the one you responded to. It's like the morans who may see someone using EBT at the grocery store, and then driving away in a late model (<5 years) car. It never occurs to them that the car may be paid off, and that the person using EBT may have lost their job after the fact. The car doesn't simply disappear once a person files for assistance, nor do the decent clothes, the flat panel tv, or anything else they owned prior to becoming unemployed. Kids work that way too, but of course the welfare WHHAAARRGARBL happens anyway.


clearly nice cars, flat-panel TVs and luxury phones/clothes are way more important than having a rainy-day fund.  People should just buy whatever they can afford from check to check and then shake the tin cup the moment they lose their job or something changes.
 
2013-07-28 01:37:13 AM

Sergeant Grumbles: You're ignoring the people, some of whom are posting in this thread, who seriously believe the car, TV, and everything else of value owned previously should be sold off before collecting welfare of any kind.


When someone is living paycheck to paycheck, the logical thing to do when they come into a little extra money is to squirrel it away for an emergency.  a $1k TV retail might be sold for $2-300 depending on condition.  The better choice would be to buy a basic TV used and put $900 away to cover for an emergency.

liberals call it "fending for yourself"
Conservatives call it 'being an adult"
 
2013-07-28 01:41:05 AM
buzzcut73:

I quit going to Wal-Mart for groceries a few years ago when I started to realize that the prices at the Albertson's that was was closer to my the house I lived in were the same on pretty much everything, and they had better produce and meat than I could find at Wal Mart, all without the aggravation of standing in a 10 deep line like I would be at Wally World. Seriously, I challenge those that shop at Wal Mart for everything to really sit down and do a price comparison between WM and some other store, and you'll find your saving very little, if you are saving at all.

After that, I started looking at other things. Tools, etc can be purchased from my local or regional chain hardware store for not much more than I would pay at WMT, but the quality of the tool is better. When I needed a water pump for the swamp cooler, I found a more powerful pump with a one year warranty at the local plumbing/HVAC store that came with a one year warranty for the same price that WMT wanted for a less powerful, more cheaply made one with a 60 day warranty...the list goes on and on.

I am not a well off guy. Far from it, in fact. I save wherever I can, and I've found that Wal Mart, most times, does not save me any money at all, and cos ...


This and add to it the experiences my ex-husband and former sister-in-law had while employed there. My now ex was employed by one of the warehouses for $12/hr, which at the time was a decent wage. He was hired for 36 hrs/week which would have made him full-time by their standards and eligible for benefits. He worked 3-12 hr shifts. His managers would break the employees backs on Friday and Saturday and have them put in 14 hrs instead of the 12 and then on Sunday they would send them home just a few hours after the shift started because they finished all the work early. This bumped him down to 32 hours/week and then not eligible for benefits because he was no longer considered full-time. Staying longer on Sunday to get the hours was not an option.

Also, they had a stupid thing at the beginning of each shift called the Walmart chant.

My former sis-in-law worked at Wal-mart for $6/hr. Her schedule varied so some weeks she would be at 40 but others at 15. At that time, they averaged out your hours and that determined whether you would be full-time or not. During the entire time she worked for them, she qualified for WIC and both her kids were on Healthwave (KS insurance for children). She could not afford the company insurance for herself.
 
2013-07-28 01:42:15 AM

meat0918: ghare: Popcorn Johnny: ghare: Unemployed, or on disability?

I'm on the higher end of the average Farker pay scale, that doesn't mean I'm not going to shop smart. If you feel superior by paying more for what you buy, rock on with your bad self

Oh, definitely, the few extra dollars I pay for higher quality merchandise, and better service, and to not be subjected to the generally horrific experience is well worth it to me. Local businessmen get my money normally. Hell, I even get better-than-Wal-Mart pricing  frequently.

There is a new saying.

"I'm too poor to shop at Wal-Mart, because I always have to replace the cheap shiat I buy from there".


See also the Sam Vimes Theory of Economic Injustice.
 
2013-07-28 02:14:14 AM

iq_in_binary: Lsherm: I Like Bread: Kazrath: You raise minimum wage and the price of stuff goes up immediately.

Anyone who condones this is a corporatist shill. The average CEO:worker pay ratio has gone from about 5:1 to 500:1 in the past 50 years. Their profits are higher and their taxes are lower than they've ever been. The idea that higher wages must come out of OUR pockets, not those of executives who are strangling their own companies, is indefensible. Still, conservatives have successfully created this big lie that capitalists are forces of nature, that their actions may not be opposed, and that any effort to ease the burden on the lower class actually HURTS them in the long run because the upper class have the power and influence to pass the buck.

Even though executive compensation is grossly out of proportion with what is deserved, you couldn't fund a minimum wage hike with their compensation.  It's not enough.

What?

Yes you could, here's how you do it, you progressively tax the shiat out of all compensation. Want to make more than, oh say $400k/year? You're paying 90% on every dollar to uncle Sam. All of a sudden it's no longer feasible to pay yourself more than $400k, the money is instead reinvested into either the company or compensating other employees. That's how we became the powerhouse of the world all through the 50's, 60's and 70's. EVERYBODY could make a good living, not just the lucky few in the top quintile.


You're quite possibly the stupidest person I've ever seen post on Fark.

Vested stock options, you idiot.
 
2013-07-28 02:14:24 AM

Brostorm: People that work at walmart tend to have made poor decisions, like having kids they could not afford.


Abstinence-only edumakashun!  Defund Planned Parenthood!
 
2013-07-28 02:15:09 AM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Walmart has succeeded in getting a large number of major brands to produce cut-rate and much reduced quality versions of their products in order to sell on Walmart's shelves


Well wrong, but keep derping.
 
2013-07-28 02:49:16 AM
Wal-Marts is one of the reason why some business fail but it's not The Reason why. Like:

1 Poor business decisions.
2 Little or no managerial and/or financial skills.
3 Little or no research on what type of business they're getting themselves into. And of course
4 Bad location.

Also most of the Mom and Pop stores and small business are just as bad as Wal-Marts when dealing with their employees. Mom and Pop stores are very notorious with price gouging and when a Wal-Marts opens near that area guess what happens. Karma is a b*tch.
 
2013-07-28 03:17:14 AM

o5iiawah: rewind2846: The concepts of time and "what happens next" are lost on people like the one you responded to. It's like the morans who may see someone using EBT at the grocery store, and then driving away in a late model (<5 years) car. It never occurs to them that the car may be paid off, and that the person using EBT may have lost their job after the fact. The car doesn't simply disappear once a person files for assistance, nor do the decent clothes, the flat panel tv, or anything else they owned prior to becoming unemployed. Kids work that way too, but of course the welfare WHHAAARRGARBL happens anyway.

clearly nice cars, flat-panel TVs and luxury phones/clothes are way more important than having a rainy-day fund.  People should just buy whatever they can afford from check to check and then shake the tin cup the moment they lose their job or something changes.


Because you know for a fact that they don't.
 
2013-07-28 05:03:11 AM

Popcorn Johnny: I shop there at least a few times a month, suck it.


With Super Walmart, we can go there for our every want and need. Me and the little lady go there weekly to get groceries, household cleaning products, charcoal (grilling season), they've got computer accessories, tablet, smart phones and smart phone accessories, I bought my Season 14 South Park DVDs there, we got our Betta there, cat food, litter, I got my smoker there, prescriptions and otc allergy meds, jeans, shoes, night stand, dressers, knives, rifle, ammo, Paula Deen(tm) brand caste iron skillet, silverware, glasses, mason jars, bed sheets, bath towels, flat screen television, they're the only store around that sells kumquats (an acquired taste, but I like 'em), and,  they sell local VA beer and wine.

Walmart: why go anywhere else when you can get it there?
 
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