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(Hartford Courant)   Got a CD player in your car? Not for long, you don't   (courant.com) divider line 37
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2013-07-26 01:59:48 PM
9 votes:
www.nobodygoeshere.com
Are we finished here?
2013-07-26 02:15:09 PM
6 votes:
one thing that sucks about a touch screen is a lack of ergonomics. Actual buttons can  have shape and texture so that one can operate them without taking your eyes off the road. With a touch screen its one big flat surface. Try and operate that thing without actually looking at it and you find that you've turned it from AC to heat, and you're listening to gospel radio. Or take your eyes off the road to fiddle about with menus and what not and wind up tail grabbing the ass of the car in front of you.
2013-07-26 01:59:59 PM
5 votes:
Buncha Babies.....

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2013-07-26 02:06:02 PM
3 votes:
I still stick with CDs in my car, since most of the music I listen to does not come over a terrestrial or satellite radio channel. (unless there's a radio station out there that has the tag line, "This is KBAT, we play all your favorite Goth hits from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and today!") No one plays this song anymore at a Goth club either Dead Can Dance - A Passage In Time cept for me at a one time opportunity in Newark, *sighs*. The only reason you want to keep your CD player will be to play the songs you know and enjoy, at your own time and pleasure.
2013-07-26 01:59:12 PM
3 votes:
cdn.gajitz.com
2013-07-26 01:31:19 PM
3 votes:
Rotating disc media are a stupid thing to put in a moving vehicle.
2013-07-26 01:59:40 PM
2 votes:
Why? Is someone coming to take it out?
2013-07-26 05:11:28 PM
1 votes:
I'm not real sure how I feel about this.

The first car I can recall came with an AM radio in it. The car itself had power nothing, including no a/c. It had a massive engine that got about 8 mpg, was made of steel and had huge chrome bumpers that apparently had the hardness of tank armor. No disk or power assisted brakes. Tubes in the tires. No seat belts. Windows rolled down with cranks. It had bench seats. To start it, you set the choke -- a little knob on the dashboard -- turned the key, then stepped hard on a big knob on the floorboard covered in gnarled rubber. (The starter button.)

Once running, after it warmed up, you adjusted the choke, shifted it into gear (no automatic transmittion ) and drove off. Often it stalled out at first, usually before you got out of the driveway until you learned to what degree to adjust the choke.

The car I drive today you just get in and go. The radio is a self scanning AM/FM thing with glowing LCD numbers and a slot for a small cassette. There are no window cranks. It gets over 20 mpg, runs on tubeless tires that last three times as long as the old tube ones and has disk power brakes all the way around.

It's not a new car, but it's real close to a space ship in comparison to the first car I recall my family having as a kid.

I remember learning to drive and having to use two hands to wrench the steering wheel around when turning from a standing stop. No power steering. I also remember getting my fingers smacked painfully when my hands slipped and the wheel snapped back.

In my first car, I added a little box to the radio that changed it from strictly AM to AM/FM. I replaced the rigid radio antenna with one mounted on a chrome spring after snapping off two previous ones by brushing tree branches along roads.

Cars have come a real long way over the years.

I have mixed feelings on cellphones. I own one, but it's the cheapest one possible with no bells and whistles, no apps and it's 5 years old. I use it only as necessary, preferring my land line phone at home.

That has changed also over the years. From basic black with a rotary dial, it's a wireless electronic, with an answering machine built in at a fraction of the weight and size my parents phones used to be.

I own a PC and a laptop. I'm not all that sure about the new tablets. Especially with touch screens. I don't even know if they have a hard drive.

My two nieces just jump into all of this change without a thought.

So, I assume if they remove the car stereo/radio, they'll have a dock for a cellphone or tablet to be connected, which will then serve as your radio/stereo. Which means I'll have to buy and learn to work the more expensive versions of what I have.

I just got used to CD players in cars.

I recall the 8 track player with the bulky cassette, followed by the much smaller two track cassette. Then vinyl records turned into more expensive, small silver disks and you had to buy a whole new form of player for them.

I have a pile of vinyl records, singles and albums that I now have to dig up a turn table for, which now cost more than the original stereo system I used to play them on.

I think I understand how my parents felt -- when grandma's old crank powered record player was replaced by a bulky, tube filled one that ran on electricity, to be replaced later by small, portable one's that folded up and sounded so much better.

I also recall when the car radio went from one speaker above the thing in the dash to speakers spread out all over the inside of the car.

Since I was a kid, there's been so many changes that you wouldn't believe the list. In the 70's I took training to become a male nurse. In my books, there were instructions on how to sharpen hypodermic needles and how to test them to make sure they had no burrs. Yet, we trained with disposable plastic hypodermics with removable disposable needles that came in packs.

FYI: You check a hypodermic needle you sharpened on a whetstone by running it along a lady's nylon stocking. If it snagged, you had a bur you needed to remove.

I don't like the idea of everything starting to rely on cell phones, whose services are not cheap and which can have all sorts of not so cute little secrets built into them -- like the ability to remotely track or turn them on.

I liked, as a young man, working on the solid state radio in my 1967 Pontiac GTO, adding speakers, tape players, splitters and upgrades. I could change out the original radio for any of a dozen or more modern, better ones with about an hours effort.

There was something unique, soothing and special about the old radio in those old cars, with the glass horizontal tuning strip behind which moved a little red marking bar as you selected channels. At late nights, along dark and unfamiliar roads, with habitation long distances in-between, that little warm glow of an electric bulb was comforting as the radio station music waxed and waned depending on the distance from the radio tower somewhere lost in the night.

When parked, engine off, the warm glow gave a feeling of well-being, soft welcome light and seemed to make that distant sounding voice or music from the simple speaker more friendly.

It's not the same thing from the cold, electric glowing numbers of today, usually in ice blue.

I know I'm old, but I've gotten to see things I only used to read about in science-fiction books. I own things I never dreamed I'd own.

And I'm still not sure I want the CD player removed from cars.

BTW, the TV ad for that high priced SUV cracks me up with it's heated steering wheel. I snickered when they came up with heated seats, was impressed when they buried defrosting wires in the windshields, kind of stunned when they installed flat screen TV monitors and almost rolled on the floor laughing the first time I came across a guy who had to use his cell to call for a wrecker to change his flat tire, not knowing how to do it himself.

I'll close. This is getting too long for the limited attention span of most of you but these are my memories.
2013-07-26 05:03:38 PM
1 votes:
Does the quality of the sound system really matter all that much with the sound of the wind and road noise to mask it?
2013-07-26 04:05:22 PM
1 votes:

BretMavrik: I thought a lot about this when we bought my wife's Jetta a few years ago. It has a multi-disc (CD/MP3) changer, a (now useless without an adapter since we have iPhone 5s) 30-pin iPod connector and an in-dash SD card slot. All those different formats make you think about the different life cycles at play. Even if you go with SD or USB now, if you're someone who keeps their car for 10-15 years there is a decent chance that those formats will also have been passed by (although at least the USB connector will probably be around for a bit).

So perhaps a better way to go would be to make the physical in-dash components more static and long-lasting, including tactile buttons (to Langdon Alger's point) that you can program for what you need (maybe even put a tiny LED window in the buttons so you can have icons as well) and have a replaceable module in the center console with a standard size and inputs to the dash. Then you can get the module that has the mix of features, devices and inputs you want and when formats switch now you're looking at replacing a $199 unit rather than taking up half your dash panel with something you will never use or will need to buy a bunch of clunky adapters in order to use.



They tried that, it was called 00 or 'double-din' and the auto companies decided they would much rather have you come back to them for an expensive upgrade with OEM parts (if you wanted to get a more up-to-date audio system), as opposed to you being able to pick what you wanted from a place like Amazon or Crutchfield- install it yourself.

Which is why I plan on keeping my 2006 Fusion for as long as possible.
2013-07-26 03:23:41 PM
1 votes:
bingethinker: My 2001 Civic has a single-slot CD player. I think it was standard equipment.

Nope. I have a 2002 Civic that was graciously gifted to me by my parents when they got a new car, and my stock stereo had no CD player and a tape deck. :-)

The head unit did, however, know how to control aftermarket CD players, and my parents installed one. When that went kaput I put in an aftermarket stereo which is much more complicated and has a sucky clock, but does have an aux input (without using a tape adapter, which I've always thought was terrible).

/Possibly a CD player could have been standard on one of the fancier models though; mine's the basic 4-door sedan (DX?).
2013-07-26 03:06:28 PM
1 votes:
I have a new vehicle and it has Sirius/XM, CD, two SD connections, and an iPod connection. Add to that a bluetooth audio connection and I think I have just about everything covered.

I will say that CD audio sounds /much/ clearer than even my best ripped mp3s on this system though.


I don't think CD is going away, but it certainly won't be prevalent like it has been for the past decade.
2013-07-26 03:04:55 PM
1 votes:

Marcintosh: Langdon Alger: one thing that sucks about a touch screen is a lack of ergonomics. Actual buttons can  have shape and texture so that one can operate them without taking your eyes off the road. With a touch screen its one big flat surface. Try and operate that thing without actually looking at it and you find that you've turned it from AC to heat, and you're listening to gospel radio. Or take your eyes off the road to fiddle about with menus and what not and wind up tail grabbing the ass of the car in front of you.

bingo

Dials and knobs are great for tactile recognition and now that they're all flat, relatively safe too.


The best solutions are the ones that combine touch screen, steering wheel controls, and physical knobs/buttons.  I can control my volume, track/preset skip, phone, voice control, etc, with the steering wheel; fan speed, vent settings, and temperature are all controlled with knobs; and navigation, deep audio settings (bass/treble/balance/fade/etc), vehicle settings, browsing through Sirius, and other features that benefit from a reconfigurable screen are all on the touch screen.

Different input methods are better for different things.  The most commonly used features can go on the steering wheel, the next most common get physical buttons, and the settings that won't be changed often get a touch-screen layout page.  It saves on button clutter and makes for excellent usability.
2013-07-26 02:59:33 PM
1 votes:
Reading the comments here, I'm way, WAY behind the times, apparently. I use CDs when I'm driving. And before I got a girlfriend/wife who comes with me on long trips and messes up the order, I had it nearly memorized so I could switch without taking my eyes off the road for more than a half second. (Yeah, poor me, right?) It works great for me, and I don't have to invest in some sort of iPod.

Also, I hate GPS, which every car seems to be coming with these days. My wife keeps pulling the damn thing out, when a map would work much better.
2013-07-26 02:45:24 PM
1 votes:
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu:
FloydA: Rotating disc media are a stupid thing to put in a moving vehicle.

Yeah, CD and DVD players have been proven to not work in cars at all.


Oh they work.  Slide rules and pocket calculators work just fine too.   Why don't you throw away your computer?
2013-07-26 02:44:40 PM
1 votes:
WhoopAssWayne:

//Remember how the players would sometimes eat the cassettes and you'd spend seemingly forever pulling out magnetic tape? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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2013-07-26 02:41:54 PM
1 votes:
//prefers the warmer sound of vinyl
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Disapproves
2013-07-26 02:34:12 PM
1 votes:
I can do better than all of you.  I have an iPod.... IN MY MIND!
2013-07-26 02:33:39 PM
1 votes:
What's a cd? And Wtf is a JaRule?
2013-07-26 02:30:03 PM
1 votes:

Detinwolf: rikkitikkitavi: Actually found this a while back when researching the same thing:

ah cool, thanks for the info


Personally, I think you have to have a very finely tuned ear to hear the differences in a lot of this stuff; a musicians ear or trained audiophile.  I don't have that ability to distinguish the differences, so it's a matter of convenience and dashboard cleanliness for me.

I'm sure a lot of people can hear it, but I can't.
2013-07-26 02:27:58 PM
1 votes:
6 CD changer or your car's a piece of shiat
2013-07-26 02:26:37 PM
1 votes:
What I find amazing is how poor the interface between car media players and MP3 players continues to be. I rent a lot of cars for work, so I've seen all kinds of insanity.

Probably most common is that the audio systems do not preserve the hierarchy of how music is organized on an iPhone/iPod. If you search by "Artist," for example, and then select an artists, instead of listing all of the albums by that artist, it lists all of the tracks -- so it bypass the album level filter. This is problematic because if you have a dozen albums by that artists, the system then lists a hundred or so tracks.

I've also found that some systems just have a lot of lag -- if you'r scrolling through your collection, sometimes it can take several seconds for track names to be displayed.

Then there's just stupidity where the system automatically sorts tracks within an album alphabetically.

Lastly, lots of systems won't even let you control your iPhone/iPod when it is hooked up.
2013-07-26 02:25:21 PM
1 votes:
I still use my 6-disk CD changer.  I also use a cassette adapter for my iPod (my car doesn't have an aux in).   And since I won't be upgrading my car or its stereo anytime in the near future, that's just what I'm going to live with for a while.

\yeah, I still burn "mixed" CDs and listen to them.
\\I'm both old and poor
2013-07-26 02:24:41 PM
1 votes:
I just installed a new CD player in my car 2 weeks ago -- has a USB and Aux port on it too, all 3 of them get used. I like my USB port for keeping 10-15 of my current favorite albums on hand, the AUX port for spotify and pandora and the CD player is for CDs I still buy (only for certain releases).
2013-07-26 02:20:56 PM
1 votes:
I have the same 6 CD's in my car that I put in it the day I bought it six years ago.
2013-07-26 02:14:27 PM
1 votes:
vinylrevolutions.files.wordpress.com
2013-07-26 02:10:04 PM
1 votes:

rikkitikkitavi: TuteTibiImperes: Eventually having a solution that would just mirror my phone screen on an in-dash screen through USB or a dock in the console wouldn't be bad though.

Exactly what I want.  And it shouldn't be USB or a dock.  It should be wireless/bluetooth/etc.  Keep your phone in your pocket and emulate it on the dash while you're driving.


I just like the USB/dock solution for keeping the phone charged, since doing the heavy lifting will drain the battery faster.  Having a wireless solution for short trips would be nice too though.
2013-07-26 02:08:23 PM
1 votes:

tetsoushima: Are we finished here?


Add a volume knob, and then yes! Want!
2013-07-26 02:08:10 PM
1 votes:

tetsoushima: [www.nobodygoeshere.com image 769x669]
Are we finished here?


You use wires?  I have a bluetooth receiver so I don't have to wear out the headphone jack on my phone.
2013-07-26 02:07:12 PM
1 votes:
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//prefers the warmer sound of vinyl
2013-07-26 02:06:02 PM
1 votes:

T.rex: Even more useless than a CD player is a factory installed GPS system... Its usually a double-dinn, so it wastes so much real estate, is ugly, is hard to use, and you typically have to pay for the service.   It actually prevented me from buying a particular used car that i otherwise liked a lot.


I disagree.  I like the factory navigation system.  I don't like clutter on my dash, so using an aftermarket one would leave an ugly device sitting on top.  Plus, with the factory one it can automatically mute the audio when it tells me there's a turn coming up, then bring the audio right back.

Eventually having a solution that would just mirror my phone screen on an in-dash screen through USB or a dock in the console wouldn't be bad though.
2013-07-26 02:05:42 PM
1 votes:
I know cars are becoming oversized entertainment centers, but let me talk this onion off my belt, pull these loose bees out of my pocket and argue in favor of the CD.

I have thought about going to a USB stereo, but then considered I would have to find the album I wanted.  And a touch screen is just as bad.  CD's can be burnt from MP3's those arguing that the CD is dead.

It is simply so much easier to flip through a book of CD's, vs having to navigate a menu (touch screen or directory on electronic portable media).

I may sound like an angry old man, but is it unreasonable to ask people to stop farking around with electronic touch screens while driving and just farking drive.  I don't care if they are texting, or trying to find that 'mixtape' in a subdirectory, stop farking around with your personal electronic device of choice and drive.
2013-07-26 02:02:12 PM
1 votes:
Even more useless than a CD player is a factory installed GPS system... Its usually a double-dinn, so it wastes so much real estate, is ugly, is hard to use, and you typically have to pay for the service.   It actually prevented me from buying a particular used car that i otherwise liked a lot.
2013-07-26 02:02:04 PM
1 votes:
I have bluetooth, which is great for calls.  But why can't I stream music (pandora, MOG, etc.) via bluetooth to my car audio?  That shouldn't be too complicated, should it?  And yet, it doesn't work.

My ideal dash wouldn't merely be a video emulator of the smartphone navi and audio output/speakers to play whatever I dialed up on it.
Oh, and HUD for pertinent auto data.
2013-07-26 01:59:22 PM
1 votes:
 "Those are not decisions we make in a five-minute water cooler meeting."

*cough*bullshiat*cough*
2013-07-26 01:33:44 PM
1 votes:
Ha!  I still have a cassette deck and I'll probably have that for at least another five years
2013-07-26 01:25:27 PM
1 votes:
No worries
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