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2013-07-26 04:43:06 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Trashy: [www.minidisc.org image 600x190]

Minidisc was an awesome idea that could have been huge in the US if Sony had opened up the standard and relaxed on licensing fees early on.  Re-recordable, no skipping, small well-protected discs, great audio quality, it had tons of advantages over CDs when it came out, and if they'd worked at it they had plenty of time to establish a solid market base before MP3 players became affordable and usable (remember those awful first generation Diamond Rios with 32mb of storage for $200?)


But... it was Sony, who apparently had not learned their lesson from Beta yet
 
2013-07-26 04:45:25 PM  

Enemabag Jones: fatkidinabeenie,
This is How I ROLL!

I want to see that work on youtube!


If I could actually find that old 8 track adapter, and a working 8 Track player I'm sure I could get it to work.

I don't really roll like that anymore but at one time I did.
 
2013-07-26 04:46:53 PM  
First off, I gotta say THIS:

ChipNASA: Buncha Babies.....


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No matter how much technology advances forward, Meatloaf's "Bat Out Hell" will never sound better than on an 8-track.  I'm not sure why. It just does.

===========================

Luckily, my '96 Camry was laughably easy to install a new radio in to replace the dead tape deck POS.  After trying out a few models here are some observations I've made as to why modern car radios suck:

1.  Playing your iPod library through the unit, either through bluetooth or an aux port is a VERY BAD idea-- it encourages you to be fooling around with your iPod instead of, ya know, DRIVING THE FARKING CAR.

2. 16 gig of storage in a USB thumb drive is AWESOME except for one thing: Music folder navigation in the radio models I've seen sucks big floppy donkey balls. You are left with either risking your life and that of others trying to get the farking unit to play the right music folder on your USB when you're driving, or dumping ten thousand songs or so in one big directory.

3. MP3 CD players rock, especially in combination with USB.  I have my USB loaded with my vast library of classic rock all dumped in the root directory and a sleeve of MP3 CDs to plug in when I'm in the mood for something else.

Once I got that all figured out, I was happy as a clam until the radio receiver quit working in my chap-ass "Dual" brand unit (though the CD and usb still work.) The unit was less than 3 months old!

Now I'm a liberal struggling to survive without my daily NPR fix until I can pony up for a new unit-- I guss I will be saving up to drop some more serious coin next time around to (I hope) get something more durable.
 
2013-07-26 04:59:11 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: You could still buy a car with a factory cassette deck in 2011 - the Mercury Grand Marquis.


I don't know if anyone else has said this, but I had to search high and low for a tape player for my car - I have a wealth of tapes from my childhood that I otherwise wouldn't be able to listen to.  Finally found a store in NYC that had a floor model that was in storage.

I've since found an original tape deck, AM/FM that I have stored until I'm finished building the old Jeep (see profile pic).
 
2013-07-26 05:03:38 PM  
Does the quality of the sound system really matter all that much with the sound of the wind and road noise to mask it?
 
2013-07-26 05:05:31 PM  
What's a "CD Player"? Some kind of old fashioned music playing thing?
 
2013-07-26 05:08:16 PM  
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2013-07-26 05:08:48 PM  
i just listen to the voices in my head, telling me to do unspeakable things to the people swerving all over the road playing with their latest technology.
 
2013-07-26 05:10:29 PM  

evaned: I have been in one situation where a GPS  might have been  extremely helpful. I was coming back from visiting my parents, there was a pileup on I-80, and the detour route was horrendously backed up. Probably would have taken at least 2 hours to go 10 miles around that segment of the interstate. There was no alternative route on my atlas's map, so I just sort of turned around and winged it, driving on random roads through farm country that seemed to go in the right direction. I think I might have hit gravel roads during that. I came out on the other side after like 20 minutes of driving, but it could just of easily have dead-ended. I have no idea if that route would have been found by GPSs*, but it would have been  really nice to know that it would actually work ahead of time. (* Actually now that I think about it, since no one else was taking it and this wasn't all that long ago, I doubt not.)


Two years ago my wife's GPS sent us on a route like that. After 15 minutes of the roads getting worse and worse I took over the navigating and threatened to throw the GPS out the window if she tried to turn it back on. It took about 5 minutes to get us to larger roads that got us to where we needed to be. It's just that the GPS didn't know about all the dirt roads, where I was able to see them right there in front of me. Other people seem to have different experiences, but as best I could tell, that's what it was. Also, it was in the middle of nowhere Wyoming, so that might have had something to do with it.

A few weeks ago we were on a trip (in my truck so we wouldn't have any trouble with bad roads) and I deliberately looked for terrible routes like that. It was great fun, even if it got a little hairy at a few times.
 
2013-07-26 05:11:28 PM  
I'm not real sure how I feel about this.

The first car I can recall came with an AM radio in it. The car itself had power nothing, including no a/c. It had a massive engine that got about 8 mpg, was made of steel and had huge chrome bumpers that apparently had the hardness of tank armor. No disk or power assisted brakes. Tubes in the tires. No seat belts. Windows rolled down with cranks. It had bench seats. To start it, you set the choke -- a little knob on the dashboard -- turned the key, then stepped hard on a big knob on the floorboard covered in gnarled rubber. (The starter button.)

Once running, after it warmed up, you adjusted the choke, shifted it into gear (no automatic transmittion ) and drove off. Often it stalled out at first, usually before you got out of the driveway until you learned to what degree to adjust the choke.

The car I drive today you just get in and go. The radio is a self scanning AM/FM thing with glowing LCD numbers and a slot for a small cassette. There are no window cranks. It gets over 20 mpg, runs on tubeless tires that last three times as long as the old tube ones and has disk power brakes all the way around.

It's not a new car, but it's real close to a space ship in comparison to the first car I recall my family having as a kid.

I remember learning to drive and having to use two hands to wrench the steering wheel around when turning from a standing stop. No power steering. I also remember getting my fingers smacked painfully when my hands slipped and the wheel snapped back.

In my first car, I added a little box to the radio that changed it from strictly AM to AM/FM. I replaced the rigid radio antenna with one mounted on a chrome spring after snapping off two previous ones by brushing tree branches along roads.

Cars have come a real long way over the years.

I have mixed feelings on cellphones. I own one, but it's the cheapest one possible with no bells and whistles, no apps and it's 5 years old. I use it only as necessary, preferring my land line phone at home.

That has changed also over the years. From basic black with a rotary dial, it's a wireless electronic, with an answering machine built in at a fraction of the weight and size my parents phones used to be.

I own a PC and a laptop. I'm not all that sure about the new tablets. Especially with touch screens. I don't even know if they have a hard drive.

My two nieces just jump into all of this change without a thought.

So, I assume if they remove the car stereo/radio, they'll have a dock for a cellphone or tablet to be connected, which will then serve as your radio/stereo. Which means I'll have to buy and learn to work the more expensive versions of what I have.

I just got used to CD players in cars.

I recall the 8 track player with the bulky cassette, followed by the much smaller two track cassette. Then vinyl records turned into more expensive, small silver disks and you had to buy a whole new form of player for them.

I have a pile of vinyl records, singles and albums that I now have to dig up a turn table for, which now cost more than the original stereo system I used to play them on.

I think I understand how my parents felt -- when grandma's old crank powered record player was replaced by a bulky, tube filled one that ran on electricity, to be replaced later by small, portable one's that folded up and sounded so much better.

I also recall when the car radio went from one speaker above the thing in the dash to speakers spread out all over the inside of the car.

Since I was a kid, there's been so many changes that you wouldn't believe the list. In the 70's I took training to become a male nurse. In my books, there were instructions on how to sharpen hypodermic needles and how to test them to make sure they had no burrs. Yet, we trained with disposable plastic hypodermics with removable disposable needles that came in packs.

FYI: You check a hypodermic needle you sharpened on a whetstone by running it along a lady's nylon stocking. If it snagged, you had a bur you needed to remove.

I don't like the idea of everything starting to rely on cell phones, whose services are not cheap and which can have all sorts of not so cute little secrets built into them -- like the ability to remotely track or turn them on.

I liked, as a young man, working on the solid state radio in my 1967 Pontiac GTO, adding speakers, tape players, splitters and upgrades. I could change out the original radio for any of a dozen or more modern, better ones with about an hours effort.

There was something unique, soothing and special about the old radio in those old cars, with the glass horizontal tuning strip behind which moved a little red marking bar as you selected channels. At late nights, along dark and unfamiliar roads, with habitation long distances in-between, that little warm glow of an electric bulb was comforting as the radio station music waxed and waned depending on the distance from the radio tower somewhere lost in the night.

When parked, engine off, the warm glow gave a feeling of well-being, soft welcome light and seemed to make that distant sounding voice or music from the simple speaker more friendly.

It's not the same thing from the cold, electric glowing numbers of today, usually in ice blue.

I know I'm old, but I've gotten to see things I only used to read about in science-fiction books. I own things I never dreamed I'd own.

And I'm still not sure I want the CD player removed from cars.

BTW, the TV ad for that high priced SUV cracks me up with it's heated steering wheel. I snickered when they came up with heated seats, was impressed when they buried defrosting wires in the windshields, kind of stunned when they installed flat screen TV monitors and almost rolled on the floor laughing the first time I came across a guy who had to use his cell to call for a wrecker to change his flat tire, not knowing how to do it himself.

I'll close. This is getting too long for the limited attention span of most of you but these are my memories.
 
2013-07-26 05:14:23 PM  
The new Mustangs have a "resonator" in the engine bay. It's sole purpose is to pipe engine "noise" into the passenger compartment. For some people, that's really all the "radio" they need. There's nothing that quite compares to that wonderful V8 burble. Especially when it's paired with a well-tuned exhaust system (thanks, Magnaflow!).
 
2013-07-26 05:16:21 PM  
I used one of these things for a while on an old car with only AM/FM. Has USB and transmits on FM. With remote for about $10 on Amazon and sounds decent too.g-ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-07-26 05:18:30 PM  

Rik01: BTW, the TV ad for that high priced SUV cracks me up with it'sheated steering wheel. I snickered when they came up with heated seats, was impressed when they buried defrosting wires in the windshields, kind of stunned when they installed flat screen TV monitors and almost rolled on the floor laughing the first time I came across a guy who had to use his cell to call for a wrecker tochange his flat tire, not knowing how to do it himself.


My vehicle has a heated steering wheel.  I've never used the heating function because I live in FL, but it just came as part of a package with things I did want (like chilled seats and HID headlamps).  I imagine for folks who live in cold climates it's nice in the winter as they won't have to wear gloves while they drive.  Remote start is also great for that, or as I use it, to let the car cool down before I get in on 95 degree days with 90% humidity.

I've also called roadside assistance to change a flat.  I mean, I know how to do it myself, but roadside assistance came with the car, so it was built into the price somehow, I might as well take advantage of it and not get my hands dirty.
 
2013-07-26 05:18:58 PM  

Rik01: This is getting too long for the limited attention span of most of you but these are my memories.


All I got out of that was you've got a thing for needles and pantyhose.

Actually, it sounds like a 40 year newer version of my grandfather's rambling, and it's interesting to hear about the old stuff I'll never encounter.

Oh, and about the heated seats. The first time I encountered one, it was a really cold day so I was largely numb and I didn't know it was happening. I thought I'd peed myself.
 
2013-07-26 05:21:58 PM  
Always preferred the full mobile orchestra

www.morethings.com
 
2013-07-26 05:22:38 PM  

Riche


Now I'm a liberal struggling to survive without my daily NPR fix until I can pony up for a new unit


Can you get the NPR app for your phone and connect the headphone jack on the phone to the AUX on the deck? Start the app before you drive away and you won't have to fiddle with the phone while driving.

(Not sure if a USB connection would work but it might be worth a shot also.)
 
2013-07-26 05:24:44 PM  

ladyfortuna: I plan to have my car for probably another 8-10 years ('07 Matrix), or at least another five. Since Toyota didn't feel it was necessary to put an auxiliary in jack in the otherwise pretty sweet six disc changer... nope, I still have a long time where I'll be making driving mixes and burning discs.

/shrug


If you are electronically inclined, you can buy a little adapter that you solder into the circuitboard of the CD Player, to make it capable of a 3.5 mm stereo input. The part costs about 8 bucks.

You just have to have a soldering iron, and know how to take out your cd player.
 
2013-07-26 05:28:05 PM  

darth_badger: [cdn.gajitz.com image 468x391]


That's so crazy. A woman driving a car. LOL!
 
2013-07-26 05:34:07 PM  
Also, I still use CD's. I think a lot of you must be deaf. How can you not notice the difference in audio quality from a CD vs 3.5 mm stereo cable connected to your phone? None of you hear the difference? Also, the cd player plays the music louder. Not sure if it's just me or something, but every damn MP3 player I've ever owned, and every phone I've ever heard played through a car's cd playey aux input...it couldn't come nearly as close to the volume, and it had less quality. Also, I'm not an audiophile, so please don't give me guff on that.
 
2013-07-26 05:44:43 PM  

Langdon Alger: one thing that sucks about a touch screen is a lack of ergonomics. Actual buttons can  have shape and texture so that one can operate them without taking your eyes off the road. With a touch screen its one big flat surface. Try and operate that thing without actually looking at it and you find that you've turned it from AC to heat, and you're listening to gospel radio. Or take your eyes off the road to fiddle about with menus and what not and wind up tail grabbing the ass of the car in front of you.


That's why most of the basic controls are on the steering wheel.  I never look at my touch screen unless I am at a stoplight, or in park.  I control everything just with my thumbs.

Here's my view from my car.  Well, not exactly, but it's the same setup.  Now, I don't even have to look down to see what I am doing.

image.automobilemag.com
 
2013-07-26 05:52:18 PM  
Really wouldn't miss it.  Currently I only use it for MP3 cds, and honestly most of my music is on SDHC cards.  Car has and SDHC slot and a huge hard drive, and I can carry enough for a cross country trip in a wallet sized case.
 
2013-07-26 05:52:31 PM  
Cassette player here.

CD's didn't have a very long life. . .25 years.

But I guess cassettes, LPs, 8-tracks didn't really last long either.
 
2013-07-26 05:53:06 PM  

rikkitikkitavi: LoR75: rikkitikkitavi: I have bluetooth, which is great for calls.  But why can't I stream music (pandora, MOG, etc.) via bluetooth to my car audio?  That shouldn't be too complicated, should it?  And yet, it doesn't work.

My ideal dash wouldn't merely be a video emulator of the smartphone navi and audio output/speakers to play whatever I dialed up on it.
Oh, and HUD for pertinent auto data.

What type of car is it?

With ours, I just have to turn on the car, turn on bluetooth on my iPhone, and then wait for it to sync. Once done, I have to press the media button over to bluetooth, and it works without issue.

The only hitch, you have to be in park to do all of that.  Can't do it while waiting at a stoplight or something.

I just had to sync my phone once and now it always recognizes it.  Although, you have to go into the settings of the car to turn on "stream audio through bluetooth" or something like that.

It's a 2006 BMW 550i.  I don't have the "stream audio through bluetooth" option.  Perhaps on new models. Has an AUX jack and bluetooth.  But no AUX via bluetooth.  Grrrrrr....


Ah that sucks.  Sweet car though.  I guess unless you install an adapter, then you are out of luck.
 
2013-07-26 05:57:43 PM  

LoR75: The only hitch, you have to be in park to do all of that.  Can't do it while waiting at a stoplight or something.


Since you are posting here I assume you have access to Google....do some research, there are hacks/codes to disable this for many cars.
 
2013-07-26 05:58:48 PM  

Enemabag Jones: I don't care if they are texting, or trying to find that 'mixtape' in a subdirectory, stop farking around with your personal electronic device of choice and drive.


It's not clear to me how physical CDs reduce the distraction. You still have to look at the media storage device, read the label, and then do something with your hands to make that media engage.

Don't get me wrong -- I think there's a lot of room for improvement in terms of haptic feedback from modern electronic devices -- I just don't understand how reading the label on a CD is better or worse than reading the label on a screen.
 
2013-07-26 06:02:30 PM  
I just got a 2012 Nissan Maxima.  Not only does it have the 6-disc CD changer, but it has a hard drive so you can rip the CDs and never hat to carry the disc back to your car.  Holds about 500 albums.  It also has a USB slot that lets you plug in a flash drive and play MP3s.  I plugged in a 32GB drive into it, I'm ready for a road trip!  It also handles streaming from my phone.

It also has the navigation system, which I love, but it doesn't have traffic overlay like my phone does.

I'm surprised that the car companies haven't ditched all the crap in favor of a modular system.  Have the amp built into the car, but the dashboard has an area where you can just snap the smart phone or tablet and make that the screen.  You could even have different-shaped templates that snap in that would cost about $50 so it fits your hardware perfectly.
 
2013-07-26 06:03:26 PM  
tetsoushima: www.nobodygoeshere.com
Are we finished here?

AUX?

Why the hell would anyone use stone age technology like that? My car and my phone should automatically connect via bluetooth and provide access to the music library either stored on the phone or a stream from the media source of my choice.
 
2013-07-26 06:04:57 PM  

CtrlAltDestroy: [ecx.images-amazon.com image 850x267]

Bluetooth, AUX input, integrated Pandora controls, and a CD payer. Love it.

/And blue
//Can't stand red, yellow, green, etc car audio units


Holy fark I have the exact same deck in my old Focus after my factory unit died a welcome death.

Love that unit so very much, although I find I will occasionally hear a pop or a crackle on certain songs if playing through USB.  No issue with the same songs through Aux or Bluetooth though.  I've changed my USB cable but same thing.

I just now charge through USB and play through Aux or Bluetooth.
 
2013-07-26 06:06:53 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: I still stick with CDs in my car, since most of the music I listen to does not come over a terrestrial or satellite radio channel. (unless there's a radio station out there that has the tag line, "This is KBAT, we play all your favorite Goth hits from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and today!") No one plays this song anymore at a Goth club either Dead Can Dance - A Passage In Time cept for me at a one time opportunity in Newark, *sighs*. The only reason you want to keep your CD player will be to play the songs you know and enjoy, at your own time and pleasure.


Originally By Dead Can Dance

Severance
The birds of leaving call to us,
Yet here we stand
endowed with the fear of flight.
Overland
The winds of change consume the land,
While we remain
In the shadow of summers now past.
When all the leaves
Have fallen and turned to dust,
Will we remain
Entrenched within our ways.
Indifference,
The plague that moves throughout this land
Omen signs
In the shapes of things to come.

Tomorrow's child is the only child

http://youtu.be/6b-M5uVC7vA
 
2013-07-26 06:21:21 PM  

Rik01: BTW, the TV ad for that high priced SUV cracks me up with it's heated steering wheel. I snickered when they came up with heated seats, was impressed when they buried defrosting wires in the windshields, kind of stunned when they installed flat screen TV monitors and almost rolled on the floor laughing the first time I came across a guy who had to use his cell to call for a wrecker to change his flat tire, not knowing how to do it himself.


I would love a heated steering wheel, just for the record. I live in Wisconsin, and during the winter I can get into a car with thick gloves, and my hands will be cold after a couple of minutes of driving because the wheel started out cold enough that it cooled down my gloves and hands before it got warm.

GoSurfing: How can you not notice the difference in audio quality from a CD vs 3.5 mm stereo cable connected to your phone?


I can notice the difference between a decent stereo and my phone, but that's the phone's fault not the MP3's. I probably  can't notice the difference through my car stereo when driving, however, simply because the car stereo not being very good plus being off center plus road noise plus not paying much attention.

Agreed about the volume thing. I fiddled around a bit with the settings and got it so it's fine if I turn the stereo volume up a bit, but I don't know why it has to be that way in the first place.
 
2013-07-26 06:24:21 PM  
profplump
Enemabag Jones: I don't care if they are texting, or trying to find that 'mixtape' in a subdirectory, stop farking around with your personal electronic device of choice and drive.
It's not clear to me how physical CDs reduce the distraction. You still have to look at the media storage device, read the label, and then do something with your hands to make that media engage.
Don't get me wrong -- I think there's a lot of room for improvement in terms of haptic feedback from modern electronic devices -- I just don't understand how reading the label on a CD is better or worse than reading the label on a screen.


This could be debated, but here is my opinion.
Flipping through a book of cd's vs navigating a screen.

Neither is ideal when driving, but I think that flipping through a book, looking up, until you find what you want is far safer then having to navigate a screen full of directories, specifically if you have to look down on a radio control screen to make this happen. Messing with a touch screen even it if it is held within your normal driving field of vision per my experience is not fun. Note I have have a touch screen android device and the one time I tried to dial that thing when driving, it was just a biatch to do, unlike with a flip phone. Note I avoid doing this because it is dangerous.

If a stereo USB or SD based directory control could be put into a HUD display with steering wheel controls, then that changes things.

Besides, if I am tapping a android/iphone while driving, it may be called texting while driving.
 
2013-07-26 06:32:43 PM  

BillArr: LoR75: The only hitch, you have to be in park to do all of that.  Can't do it while waiting at a stoplight or something.

Since you are posting here I assume you have access to Google....do some research, there are hacks/codes to disable this for many cars.


Really?  I had no idea.  Sometimes I forget to flip on my bluetooth on my phone, and usually have to stop somewhere to do it.

I'll have to dig around.  Thanks for the tip!
 
2013-07-26 06:34:28 PM  

Enemabag Jones: Note I have have a touch screen android device and the one time I tried to dial that thing when driving, it was just a biatch to do, unlike with a flip phone. Note I avoid doing this because it is dangerous.


I agree it's harder than with physical buttons. But in both cases, at least the way I'd do it, it would alternate between fiddling with some stuff while looking at the road, glance down at the book or screen, and go back to fiddling. I do that with my phone (not proud of it, but I do it) when not in heavy traffic and there's good visibility, and I don't look away from the road more than 1/2 second at a time really.
 
2013-07-26 06:45:38 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: tetsoushima: [www.nobodygoeshere.com image 769x669]
Are we finished here?

AUX?

Why the hell would anyone use stone age technology like that? My car and my phone should automatically connect via bluetooth and provide access to the music library either stored on the phone or a stream from the media source of my choice.


30.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-26 07:11:39 PM  

evaned: Fuggin Bizzy: ...and the outside temperature on the dash.

Not knocking your preference, but as someone who never understood the use of that.... why? :-) Is it so you have an approximation of how much you have to worry about snow/ice on the road or something like that?


Exactly the idea. I totaled my pickup last November rolling down the highway in a light rain wondering if it was starting to freeze and should I be in 4WD to help prevent me from spinning out...when I abruptly spun out. The pickup whipped around backwards in the other lane, hit the edge of the road and flipped over on its roof, gifting me with a concussion in the process. Other than that, my daughter and I were un-injured. Seat belts really, really work; but we're getting off track.

I had tried to put an aftermarket thermometer into the pickup for just that reason, but it really didn't work very well. My minivan already had the outside temp and once I had it I decided it was a sweet feature that future cars needed to have as well. If it's 32 degrees +/- 10 degrees, I assume the road deck is icy. (It can be icy at -20 too, but when it's that cold ice is really not very slippery.)
 
2013-07-26 07:32:48 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Eventually having a solution that would just mirror my phone screen on an in-dash screen through USB or a dock in the console wouldn't be bad though.


Ask and you shall receive:   http://www.chevrolet.com/culture/article/bringgo-app.html

I think GM is on to something huge here, as it would seriously reduce to cost of in-car navigation, and you aren't subjected to the whims of an auto manufacturer of when or how to update your systems.
 
2013-07-26 07:53:40 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: tetsoushima: [www.nobodygoeshere.com image 769x669]
Are we finished here?

AUX?

Why the hell would anyone use stone age technology like that? My car and my phone should automatically connect via bluetooth and provide access to the music library either stored on the phone or a stream from the media source of my choice.


Don't forget about Qi charging.
 
2013-07-26 07:57:53 PM  

Mi-5: TuteTibiImperes: Eventually having a solution that would just mirror my phone screen on an in-dash screen through USB or a dock in the console wouldn't be bad though.

Ask and you shall receive:   http://www.chevrolet.com/culture/article/bringgo-app.html

I think GM is on to something huge here, as it would seriously reduce to cost of in-car navigation, and you aren't subjected to the whims of an auto manufacturer of when or how to update your systems.


That's an advanced idea of one along the lines as I posted above.  I guess I'm not needed...
 
2013-07-26 08:18:58 PM  
Who needs a radio?

www.c-ford.net
 
2013-07-26 09:07:40 PM  
Heated steering wheel commenters.

Sorry. I forgot. I live in Florida and it no longer gets cold enough down here to wear gloves.

I do recall when it used to get real cold and my folks had to start the car up about a half hour before my Dad left for work and let it run. That got the heater working. It also warmed the engine enough so it wouldn't stall too easily and the tranny fluid so it would smoothly shift -- not SLAM into gears for the first two or three miles. (That's when automatic transmissions were becoming common.)

Anyone recall ever having to put a 'suppressor' on the engine coil line to stop it from affecting the radio? Some cars would pick up a whine when accelerating from a standing stop or shifting gears, which would come through the radio. You bought this cheap little cylinder which snapped over the coil wire and stopped the interference.

In bad cases, you could hear the crackle when each cylinder fired while waiting at a stop light. The up side was that if it was nice and rhythmic, then you knew your engine was in tune.

You young whippersnappers missed out on all of the fun with earlier cars.
 
2013-07-26 09:34:59 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: evaned: Fuggin Bizzy: ...and the outside temperature on the dash.Not knocking your preference, but as someone who never understood the use of that.... why? :-) Is it so you have an approximation of how much you have to worry about snow/ice on the road or something like that?Exactly the idea. I totaled my pickup last November rolling down the highway in a light rain wondering if it was starting to freeze and should I be in 4WD to help prevent me from spinning out...when I abruptly spun out. The pickup whipped around backwards in the other lane, hit the edge of the road and flipped over on its roof, gifting me with a concussion in the process. Other than that, my daughter and I were un-injured. Seat belts really, really work; but we're getting off track.I had tried to put an aftermarket thermometer into the pickup for just that reason, but it really didn't work very well. My minivan already had the outside temp and once I had it I decided it was a sweet feature that future cars needed to have as well. If it's 32 degrees +/- 10 degrees, I assume the road deck is icy. (It can be icy at -20 too, but when it's that cold ice is really not very slippery.)

My wife's CR-V has AWD...and it's weird, but I *hate* it on the ice. It always feels like the front wheels are trying to get ahead of the front, worse than any rear-wheel drive I've ever had.My little Insight has front-wheel drive but has traction control and antilock brakes. It's nice to have those but sometimes it's hard to have a good feel of the road conditions.
 
2013-07-26 09:39:43 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: AUX?

Why the hell would anyone use stone age technology like that? My car and my phone should automatically connect via bluetooth and provide access to the music library either stored on the phone or a stream from the media source of my choice.


Your choices:

1.) Plug phone into AUX
2.) Play your tunes

or:

1.) Start the pairing process on your head unit
2.) Start the pairing process on your phone
3.) Enter PIN
4.) Listen to mediocre-quality music
5.) Plug phone into charger/USB port because Bluetooth is draining the battery...made even worse if you're dumb enough to use your data plan to listen to Pandora

If you're listening to Spotify, iTunes music, Pandora, etc. don't worry about the signal degradation from the cable, because lossy compression does more to the signal than a cable.  And it's not that hard to plug in, honest.
 
2013-07-26 09:43:29 PM  
Vinyl is coming back.

Did someone post this?

Not worth wading through over 240 posts to find out.
 
2013-07-26 09:53:43 PM  

GoSurfing: Also, I still use CD's. I think a lot of you must be deaf. How can you not notice the difference in audio quality from a CD vs 3.5 mm stereo cable connected to your phone? None of you hear the difference? Also, the cd player plays the music louder. Not sure if it's just me or something, but every damn MP3 player I've ever owned, and every phone I've ever heard played through a car's cd playey aux input...it couldn't come nearly as close to the volume, and it had less quality. Also, I'm not an audiophile, so please don't give me guff on that.


Depends on your hearing, the quality of the hardware on your phone, and the quality of the files you're listening to.  Oh, and it depends on the quality of the hardware on your CD player; some of them use that fiddly cheap one-bit DAC.  Now, if you're comparing an average CD player with an average DAC and 16-bit 44.1 kHz audio  to an iPhone 5 playing 256kbps AACs ripped straight from the masters, you'd probably have a lot of trouble telling.

And we're talking about listening to music in cars, one of the worst environments for listening to music.
 
2013-07-26 10:46:57 PM  
caraudiococoa.com

I'll be keeping this, thanks.

SD slot: check.
SiriusXM: check
USB: check
3.5mm Aux: check
RCA A/V: check
Bluetooth: check
GPS: check
CD: motherfarkin' check
 
2013-07-26 11:55:25 PM  

thornhill: Ant: I want something like this, but I want to be able to pop the tablet out so the crackheads don't break my windows to get it.
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There are plenty of dash covers that allow you to pop the tablet out.


Oblig: http://www.geek.com/apple/ipad-velcro-awesome-1260220/
 
2013-07-27 05:18:58 AM  
I have a factory CD and cassette and an auxiliary line-in for my iPod.  And, yes I still use all three.
 
2013-07-27 06:58:07 AM  
Just swapped out the factory cassette in my '94 Gramparquis for a sweet Kenwood rig with HD, Bluetooth audio and phone support, support for IHeartRadio, Pandora, AHA, USB, Aux in, and of course CD.  Less than $200, and because I work in radio, I get it comped.  Gotta love it.

Kenwood KDC-BT755HD
 
2013-07-27 09:27:11 AM  

MBP2112: Just swapped out the factory cassette in my '94 Gramparquis for a sweet Kenwood rig with HD, Bluetooth audio and phone support, support for IHeartRadio, Pandora, AHA, USB, Aux in, and of course CD.  Less than $200, and because I work in radio, I get it comped.  Gotta love it.

Kenwood KDC-BT755HD


This made me laugh.
 
2013-07-27 10:34:51 AM  
"As far back as late 2011, market researcher NPD Group said..." Ah yes, the good old days.  Piss on all this nonsense.  As long as I can just burn music to a cd, I'll stick to what I have.
 
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