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(Examiner)   Jacksonville is getting an expansion franchise in the North American Soccer League in 2015, meaning the city will finally have a pro sports team again. Wait, the Jaguars still count?   (examiner.com) divider line 52
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2013-07-27 04:38:45 PM

studs up: Buchholz96: The reason Chivas USA has been a "failure" is that LA/Southern CA is a huge market with many options. Also lets be honest, Latino there is 98% Mexican. They are devoted to their Mexican league clubs and they can root for the Galaxy who is consistently better than Chivas USA plus the coverage of the Mexican league in LA is probably just as good or better than it is in Mexico.

You're not from here, are you?
See my post above for the reason the Goats fail. It has nothing to do with the huge Hispanic hockey culture drawing fans away from Chivas. Or did you mean the NFL fans spending all of their time and money on the local franchise?
The attempt by MLS to garner support (desperately sometimes) of the Hispanic market has consistently ended in failure. As it should I might add. MLS is much more successful when it just promotes the game instead of appealing to a niche of racial stereotypes.
The two best recent expansions have been in the Pacific Northwest. Not really a hot bed of latino support there. Seattle, as you might notice has more sports to draw fans than LA does, in a geographically smaller market and sells more tickets than anybody else.
Also, as a lifetime fan of the USMNT, from the bottom of my heart let me express my feelings about becoming more like Mexico by throwing batteries and bags of piss on that idea. Fark Mexico....right in the Azteca.

 

Which further validates my original point that smaller markets are way better for MLS or NASL. I'm also not recommending MLS turn to a system just like Mexico. I'm suggesting that MLS turn into a system like Mexico and every other league across the planet- minus the Australian A-league, by adopting relegation and promotion.

I'm not saying Latinos are the only target market for MLS. However, in markets like San Antonio and LA, they'd would have to target that demographic for survival. The success in the pacific NW with Portland and Seattle is exactly why Austin would be a great MLS market because we have the hipster-white-granola-coffee-shop-IT-misanthrope "progressive" market which is what is driving the success of the Timbers and Sounders plus we have the Latino demographic (I hope that was enough stereotypes for you).

Living in Austin and then flying to Portland or Seattle, the airports all smell the same- like cheese and feet from all the dirty hipsters.

Also. What do you mean "from here"? I'm as backwoods redneck SEC/Big 12/NFL/NBA nuts as any other hillbilly you'd find from the Southeastern part of the United States. I just happened to be raised playing soccer, played professionally in several countries, speak three languages, and know a hell of a lot more about soccer than the average American because I've lived it for the last 34 years. For God's sake, I named my CyberSecurity Consulting company after my favorite soccer team.
 
2013-07-27 06:54:22 PM

Buchholz96: Also. What do you mean "from here"? I'm as backwoods redneck SEC/Big 12/NFL/NBA nuts as any other hillbilly you'd find from the Southeastern part of the United States. I just happened to be raised playing soccer, played professionally in several countries, speak three languages, and know a hell of a lot more about soccer than the average American because I've lived it for the last 34 years. For God's sake, I named my CyberSecurity Consulting company after my favorite soccer team.


From here meant from LA, not the USA. I was referring to the Chivas part of your post so that's why I quoted it. My point was, which I still maintain, is that pandering to an apathetic Hispanic audience has failed, and, will continue to fail as a marketing strategy. Again, I'm not saying that latinos of every stripe won't or don't like MLS. I'm just saying that counting on them to fill stadiums in Hispanic areas because "latinos loves them some futbol" is no way to plan for an MLS expansion.

I'm always glad to see an old time soccer player/fan on these boards. I only don't know much about Austin other than MDC came from there and I always hear it is the hipster magnet of Texas. I'd love to see pro/rel in the 2nd div and lower but we won't see that in MLS in our lifetime. There is still way to much history to be made first. Someday my beloved VC Fusion will rise to those heights. In the meantime I have to get to the stadium for the Championship match tonight.

Good talking with you.
 
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