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(The Atlantic Wire)   Remember that time when you went out with your buddies and the next morning you were trying to explain to cops why the llama in the backseat of your car was wearing your underwear? Yeah the last night of the NC legislative session was kinda like that   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 49
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2013-07-26 11:27:28 AM  
Rot in hell, American Taliban.
 
2013-07-26 11:30:21 AM  
Anybody notice the irony that one of the bills was supposed to be anti-abortion and anti-sharia at the same time?

So to recap:  they want separation of religion and state, but only separation of one religion and state...Which also makes me wonder how close the state was to implementing sharia law in the first place?
 
2013-07-26 11:54:04 AM  

ambassador_ahab: Anybody notice the irony that one of the bills was supposed to be anti-abortion and anti-sharia at the same time?

So to recap:  they want separation of religion and state, but only separation of one religion and state...Which also makes me wonder how close the state was to implementing sharia law in the first place?


We're just a few votes short of this happening in the US House of Representatives. Scary as hell.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 12:15:11 PM  
I am not paying for that llama's abortion. There's a good chance the baby isn't even mine.
 
2013-07-26 12:20:26 PM  
In defense of the bill's limitations on early voting, Republican state Senator Jerry Tillman said "If we've voted for over 200 years in one day and we now can't vote in a week, something's wrong." He, according to the Charlotte Observer's report, did not address the fact that 200 years ago, only a small fraction (white, male property owners) of the population could even vote

Well, I'm pretty sure making voting available to only white, male property owners is the next step for these tools.
 
2013-07-26 12:51:26 PM  
So their plan to limit voter turnout will lead to higher voter turnout?  Will they then have to pass another law to limit voter turnout more so that they'll get even higher voter turnout?  Maybe if they just ban voting all together, voter turnout will reach 100%!
 
2013-07-26 12:55:03 PM  
Are they regretting what they did? The article doesn't indicate that they do.
 
2013-07-26 12:57:40 PM  

ZAZ: I am not paying for that llama's abortion. There's a good chance the baby isn't even mine.


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2013-07-26 01:00:04 PM  

Mentat: So their plan to limit voter turnout will lead to higher voter turnout?  Will they then have to pass another law to limit voter turnout more so that they'll get even higher voter turnout?  Maybe if they just ban voting all together, voter turnout will reach 100%!


Makes sense. If you reduce taxes to 0, revenue will be infinite. Or so I'm told.
 
2013-07-26 01:02:15 PM  
Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?
 
2013-07-26 01:03:21 PM  
I remember a few years ago seeing lots of articles about how North Carolina was sizing up to be a new economic powerhouse and an awesome place to live.

Don't really see those anymore.
 
2013-07-26 01:06:15 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?


Maybe because it's gone Floridian-level batshiat crazy, and there's a handful of other states chomping at the bit to follow suit?
 
2013-07-26 01:08:38 PM  

palladiate: Mentat: So their plan to limit voter turnout will lead to higher voter turnout?  Will they then have to pass another law to limit voter turnout more so that they'll get even higher voter turnout?  Maybe if they just ban voting all together, voter turnout will reach 100%!

Makes sense. If you reduce taxes to 0, revenue will be infinite. Or so I'm told.


It's what Conservatives believe!
 
2013-07-26 01:09:13 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?


Some people have a weird sort of empathy for their fellow human, let alone their fellow American. I know, I know - it's not what this country was built on. But there it is.
 
2013-07-26 01:09:40 PM  
When they start passing laws restricting a woman's ablility to engage in financial transactions, the fiancé and I are heading for Canada.

/holding a Canadian university degree gives me bonus points. Perm residency, here I come!
 
2013-07-26 01:10:08 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?


For the same reason that people who don;t live in Mexico and will never go there worry about it: If you have a third-world hellhole on your border, it's problems are bound to spill over and become your problems
 
2013-07-26 01:11:42 PM  
That really is not that hard to explain off to a cop if you know your areas backwards antibeastiality legislation.
 
2013-07-26 01:14:16 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?


Here's the opinion of one such busybody on the topic:

"I think I should indicate why I am here in Birmingham, since you have been influenced by the view which argues against 'outsiders coming in.' I have the honor of serving as president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, an organization operating in every southern state, with headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. We have some eighty five affiliated organizations across the South, and one of them is the Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights. Frequently we share staff, educational and financial resources with our affiliates. Several months ago the affiliate here in Birmingham asked us to be on call to engage in a nonviolent direct action program if such were deemed necessary. We readily consented, and when the hour came we lived up to our promise. So I, along with several members of my staff, am here because I was invited here. I am here because I have organizational ties here.

But more basically, I am in Birmingham because injustice is here. Just as the prophets of the eighth century B.C. left their villages and carried their "thus saith the Lord" far beyond the boundaries of their home towns, and just as the Apostle Paul left his village of Tarsus and carried the gospel of Jesus Christ to the far corners of the Greco Roman world, so am I compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my own home town. Like Paul, I must constantly respond to the Macedonian call for aid.

Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states. I cannot sit idly by in Atlanta and not be concerned about what happens in Birmingham. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial 'outside agitator' idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."
- Martin Luter King Jr., Letter from a Birmingham Jail
 
2013-07-26 01:15:06 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Martin Luther King Jr., Letter from a Birmingham Jail


FTFM
 
2013-07-26 01:16:33 PM  
Ok FarkConservatives.  Supposedly, all these new voting laws are designed to rpevent voting fraud, becuase even though the problem is nearly non-esistent, our franchise is too sacred to be tainted by even ONE incorrect vote.  Ok.  Fine.  The explain to me how ANY of the following provisions eliminate "voter fraud":
-It eliminates high school registration drives for 16 and 17-year-olds.
-It eliminates provisional voting for residents who show up to the wrong precinct,

and even if you can make a case fo reither one of these, I double-Dog DARE you to explain either of these under the guise fo preventing voter fraud:
and
-it prohibits counties from extending voting hours by one hour should there be an extraordinary circumstance, for instance, extremely long lines.

-Counties anticipating a crowd would also be barred from opening up polls on the Saturday before election day in order to accommodate everyone
.

anyone?  Buehler?  anyone?
 
2013-07-26 01:20:15 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?


Because derp spreads quickly. As a resident of Wisconsin I can attest to this. We went from R's and D's tolerating each other and compromising to FARK YOU POOR PEOPLE in a blink of an eye. I dont want my kid growing up in Derpistan
 
2013-07-26 01:21:10 PM  

Magorn: Ok FarkConservatives.  Supposedly, all these new voting laws are designed to rpevent voting fraud, becuase even though the problem is nearly non-esistent, our franchise is too sacred to be tainted by even ONE incorrect vote.  Ok.  Fine.  The explain to me how ANY of the following provisions eliminate "voter fraud":
-It eliminates high school registration drives for 16 and 17-year-olds.
-It eliminates provisional voting for residents who show up to the wrong precinct,

and even if you can make a case fo reither one of these, I double-Dog DARE you to explain either of these under the guise fo preventing voter fraud:
and
-it prohibits counties from extending voting hours by one hour should there be an extraordinary circumstance, for instance, extremely long lines.

-Counties anticipating a crowd would also be barred from opening up polls on the Saturday before election day in order to accommodate everyone.

anyone?  Buehler?  anyone?


Because brownskinned people
 
2013-07-26 01:21:13 PM  

Magorn: -it prohibits counties from extending voting hours by one hour should there be an extraordinary circumstance, for instance, extremely long lines.

-Counties anticipating a crowd would also be barred from opening up polls on the Saturday before election day in order to accommodate everyone.


Because people in N.C. voted for Obama in record numbers.  They don't want that to happen again.
 
2013-07-26 01:27:13 PM  
Remember that time when you went out with your buddies and the next morning you were trying to explain to cops why the llama in the backseat of your car was wearing your underwear?

It was a goat.  Otherwise spot-on headline.
 
2013-07-26 01:28:51 PM  
Given the combination of Democratic-leaning demographic shifts and Republican sponsored voter supression effort, I think that we may see a very rapid collapse in the Republicans when a few of these states flip in a decade or two. These effort will help keep the Republicans in power for a while, but once the long term demographic trends reach a point where state legislatures can undo the gerrymandering and "voter fraud" laws, the GOP will be in very serious trouble.

/ I hope
// Won't happen soon, though
 
2013-07-26 01:29:45 PM  

palladiate: Well, I'm pretty sure making voting available to only white, male property owners is the next step for these tools.


I'm sure there's nothing they'd love more if they could only figure out the right language. How would one, theoretically, go about oppressing the living shiat out of all except white, male property owners without appearing... unseemly?
 
2013-07-26 01:31:16 PM  

Magorn: -it prohibits counties from extending voting hours by one hour should there be an extraordinary circumstance, for instance, extremely long lines.


It's good policy to discourage long lines.  Have you ever seen pictures of Soviet Russia?  Long lines everywhere.  By opening the polls longer, you're encouraging the forming of long, communist lines.  Not in my America.

Magorn: -Counties anticipating a crowd would also be barred from opening up polls on the Saturday before election day in order to accommodate everyone.


Saturday is the day before church, and God doesn't want people voting while they are still unclean from a week's worth of impure thoughts about their coworkers.  They might get funny ideas about ladyparts or, God forbid, manparts, and they need to pray those out before they go to vote.
 
2013-07-26 01:36:23 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?


Because they elect representatives to the federal government. And, you know, that whole empathy thing.
 
2013-07-26 02:00:02 PM  
So is this part of there new 'messaging' to attract the young, women and minority voters?
 
2013-07-26 02:03:43 PM  
That chicken is gonna get jealous
 
2013-07-26 02:41:34 PM  

Mister Buttons: Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?

Maybe because it's gone Floridian-level batshiat crazy, and there's a handful of other states chomping at the bit to follow suit?


Yah, the stupid is spreading.
 
2013-07-26 02:42:49 PM  

zerkalo: That chicken is gonna get jealous


The Chicken's dead...it doesn't care.
 
2013-07-26 02:49:50 PM  
NC used to be pretty decent, WTF?

I am so sick of the tea 'tard fundie assholes in this country.
 
2013-07-26 03:24:23 PM  

Blues_X: Rot in hell, American Taliban.


I'm grateful for this, actually. The Supreme Court opened a door, and immediately the most bigoted and craven ran through it, cheering for their new found freedom.

They've self-identified, and now the Justice Department can clamp down on these assholes. It's one thing to claim that, given an inch, they would take a mile. It's another thing to watch them, having been given an inch, take that mile and then keep running.
 
2013-07-26 03:25:16 PM  

Mentat: So their plan to limit voter turnout will lead to higher voter turnout?  Will they then have to pass another law to limit voter turnout more so that they'll get even higher voter turnout?  Maybe if they just ban voting all together, voter turnout will reach 100%!


In theory, it would - of course, the voters in question would be armed with torches and pitchforks, not ballots and buttons, and the election would be truly, not merely figuratively, bloody.
 
2013-07-26 03:44:26 PM  
Hey, threadshiatting troll who was created solely to piss people off in Martin/Zimmerman threads.

I'm IN North Carolina.  And this iteration of the General Assembly is absolutely toxic.  We've been trying to modernize and diversify for decades, to avoid the problems of the rest of the South.  But even in good times our education was spotty.  Now they've gutted education to pay their corporate cronies, and thrown in an industrial-grade dose of religious nuttery to boot.  If we don't fix this, and soon, NC will begin to see a brain drain to other states, which means fewer opportunities of revenue, which means the hicks will be more susceptible to more corporate cronyism.

I'm taking you off ignore until this thread is dead, because I want to hear what you have to say about that.  If you've got an intelligent argument, fine.  Otherwise, please go fark yourself up the ass with a red-hot rusty serrated pitchfork, and let those of us who don't want to live in the poor man's Dubai do what we have to to fight the good fight.

And I'm serious about the pitchfork.  You and the other threadshiatters need it, and I need a reason to ever consider giving this place my $5 again.
 
2013-07-26 03:52:42 PM  

trotsky: NC used to be pretty decent, WTF?

I am so sick of the tea 'tard fundie assholes in this country.


They are very, very, very afraid. Truly. See WND comments and prepare to weep.

I think I got the ban hammer from WND last week for quoting Hiiler v Nevada. They are cowards.
 
2013-07-26 04:02:13 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?


Because we want to know how fast a state can go from sanity to batshiat berserk.
 
2013-07-26 04:17:45 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Hey, threadshiatting troll who was created solely to piss people off in Martin/Zimmerman threads.

I'm IN North Carolina.  And this iteration of the General Assembly is absolutely toxic.  We've been trying to modernize and diversify for decades, to avoid the problems of the rest of the South.  But even in good times our education was spotty.  Now they've gutted education to pay their corporate cronies, and thrown in an industrial-grade dose of religious nuttery to boot.  If we don't fix this, and soon, NC will begin to see a brain drain to other states, which means fewer opportunities of revenue, which means the hicks will be more susceptible to more corporate cronyism.

I'm taking you off ignore until this thread is dead, because I want to hear what you have to say about that.  If you've got an intelligent argument, fine.  Otherwise, please go fark yourself up the ass with a red-hot rusty serrated pitchfork, and let those of us who don't want to live in the poor man's Dubai do what we have to to fight the good fight.

And I'm serious about the pitchfork.  You and the other threadshiatters need it, and I need a reason to ever consider giving this place my $5 again.


I'm pretty sure the above was addressed to Neighborhood Watch. I'm requoting it with his/her name on it so that s/he'll get notified if s/he's enabled "Notify me of posts mentioning me."
 
2013-07-26 05:03:04 PM  
If these people did have a few of those insane, "What the did I do last night" times. They would probably a lot more tolerable.
Maybe even cool.
 
2013-07-26 05:40:49 PM  

Mentat: So their plan to limit voter turnout will lead to higher voter turnout?  Will they then have to pass another law to limit voter turnout more so that they'll get even higher voter turnout?  Maybe if they just ban voting all together, voter turnout will reach 100%!


Why not? It's what they believe about taxes.
 
2013-07-26 06:09:39 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?


I don't live in muddy piss-filled hole, but I still get awfully pissed when my dog makes one in the garden.
 
2013-07-26 07:47:18 PM  

Huggermugger: Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?

Because we want to know how fast a state can go from sanity to batshiat berserk.


Then the answer is about seven months. That's how long it took the conservative dominated legislature in NC to accomplish these goals:

-Gut statewide education, by defunding schools, eliminating tenure, mandating larger classroom sizes, taking authority away from some urban school systems, eliminating assistants in elementary schools, and giving taxpayer money to private schools

-Pass a widely touted "tax cut" bill that is anything but that. While the rich and corporations get tax cuts, everyone else will see their overall taxes go UP. A middle income family making around $50,000 will see an increase in their pocket from the income tax cut of about $84/year, or $7/month. That in turn will be consumed by the DOUBLED electricity tax (up from 3.5% to 7%), the increased natural gas tax, as well as new taxes on services. Governor McCrory campaigned on not signing any tax cut bill that wasn't revenue neutral; he lied.

-Pass some of the most restrictive anti-abortion laws in the country. The bill was originally an anti-sharia bill until they added the anti-abortion amendments to it, then they eliminated the anti-sharia part. This bill also bans local or city governments from offering health insurance to their employees that covers abortions. Governor McCrory campaigned on not signing any law that further restricted abortions in NC. He lied.

-Regulatory agencies are being defunded, having their leaders replaced with pro-business types, and having their authority drastically limited by direct legislative directives. A bill passed just this week orders ALL regulatory agencies to institute an immediate review of all regulations, with an eye to eliminating as many as possible and softening the rest. Another bill bans any state or local regulatory agency from using criteria more restrictive than what is used at the Federal level.

-Directed the Coastal Area Management Commission (CAMA) to not use current sea level data in any projections or estimates on where construction can take place in the future. Basically this means CAMA must use a straight line interpolation from decades ago and not incorporate any new data showing sea levels are rising faster than expected.

-Passed a "voter ID" bill that limits when voters can go to the polls, how long they can stay open, allows anonymous challenges to anyone's right to vote as long as the challenger can vote in that county, puts 'volunteer observers' in all polling areas to make sure the voting process is acceptable, and eliminates the state income tax deduction for a college student dependent if he doesn't vote at his home town polling location. IOW, his parents cannot claim him as a dependent on state income tax forms if he votes while at college.

-Passed a bill allowing guns in any private business, public park, bar, or school grounds (but the gun must stay in a locked container in the trunk of the vehicle in the case of a school/university). This was passed after several attacks on women on local university grounds; I guess the rapist/attacker is expected to wait around while his victim goes to get her gun from the trunk of her vehicle.

-Tried to pass a bill stating that Christianity is the official NC state religion.

-Passed a bill reducing unemployment benefits and benefit duration to workers that can't find a job. This in turn triggered a Federal cut off of unemployment assistance, making NC the only state in the nation to lose the use of these funds.

-Reversed the previous Governor's acceptance to work with the Federal government in setting up health insurance exchanges. They also refused to accept Federal Medicaid funding even though McCrory campaigned on 'fixing' the state run Medicaid system, one that has won national awards for efficiency and keeping costs down.

-Stripped management authority from several urban areas over their airports, water systems and schools. In a remarkable coincidence, all of the urban areas mentioned in the bill are heavily democratic.

-Gerrymandered both the state and Federal voting districts so badly that Democrats will have a tough time ever winning a majority back in the state legislature, or sending more than one or two Democrats to the House of Representatives. Raleigh, for example, was split into three districts, diluting the mostly Democrat vote there by adding the city to heavily Republican rural areas. My Representative now has a district that's spread out over more than 70 miles from his original district, and includes parts of Raleigh, Fayetteville, Chapel Hill and lots and lots of rural property. Renee Ellmers, OTOH, has a district made up almost exclusively of heavily Republican rural areas, along with Republican dominated land around Fort Bragg.

-Voted to allow fracking and offshore natural gas drilling off the Outer Banks. A fracking committee was set up, with the members drawn mostly from industry sources. A token environmental seat was provided as well.

-Added specific language in the budget to further defund the state DOT, shoving more and more work out to consultants at the expense of in-house offices. This has been going on since 2010, but has accelerated in this bill. My office, for example, has been directed to send 70% of our work out to private consulting firms by next year; we're currently at 60% already thanks to the 2010 bill. Engineering design costs have begun rising for other units now that they are no longer able to provide needed services in support of the designs; subsurface exploration, for example, used to be done by the Geotechnical Unit. In 2010 they were directed to sell all their drilling equipment except for two rigs. As a result, geotechnical contract costs have gone through the roof as contractors raise their prices without fear of having the work done in-house.
 
2013-07-26 07:56:46 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?

Here's the opinion of one such busybody on the topic:

"I think I should indicate why I am here in Birmingham, since you have been influenced by the view which argues against 'outsiders coming in.' I have the honor of serving as president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, an organization operating in every southern state, with headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. We have some eighty five affiliated organizations across the South, and one of them is the Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights. Frequently we share staff, educational and financial resources with our affiliates. Several months ago the affiliate here in Birmingham asked us to be on call to engage in a nonviolent direct action program if such were deemed necessary. We readily consented, and when the hour came we lived up to our promise. So I, along with several members of my staff, am here because I was invited here. I am here because I have organizational ties here.

But more basically, I am in Birmingham because injustice is here. Just as the prophets of the eighth century B.C. left their villages and carried their "thus saith the Lord" far beyond the boundaries of their home towns, and just as the Apostle Paul left his village of Tarsus and carried the gospel of Jesus Christ to the far corners of the Greco Roman world, so am I compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my own home town. Like Paul, I must constantly respond to the Macedonian call for aid.

Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states. I cannot sit idly by in Atlanta and not be concerned about what happens in Birmingham. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial 'outside agitator' idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds." - Martin Luter King Jr., Letter from a Birmingham Jail


In a better world, he'd have been our first black president.
 
2013-07-26 08:30:44 PM  

Bendal: -Added specific language in the budget to further defund the state DOT, shoving more and more work out to consultants at the expense of in-house offices. This has been going on since 2010, but has accelerated in this bill. My office, for example, has been directed to send 70% of our work out to private consulting firms by next year; we're currently at 60% already thanks to the 2010 bill. Engineering design costs have begun rising for other units now that they are no longer able to provide needed services in support of the designs; subsurface exploration, for example, used to be done by the Geotechnical Unit. In 2010 they were directed to sell all their drilling equipment except for two rigs. As a result, geotechnical contract costs have gone through the roof as contractors raise their prices without fear of having the work done in-house.


On an aside, I'm still trying to figure how drunk and/or stoned the guy who invented outsourcing had to be.

'OK, let's pay more money to 3rd party contractors for less work that we can't directly supervise...magic PROFIT!'
 
2013-07-26 10:05:22 PM  
"If we've voted for over 200 years in one day and we now can't vote in a week, something's wrong."

There is? Please explain what that 'something' is.

*crickets*
 
2013-07-27 07:25:27 AM  

Bendal: Huggermugger: Neighborhood Watch: Why do people who don't live in NC (and who will never go there) worry so much about NC?

Because we want to know how fast a state can go from sanity to batshiat berserk.

Then the answer is about seven months. That's how long it took the conservative dominated legislature in NC to accomplish these goals:

-Gut statewide education, by defunding schools, eliminating tenure, mandating larger classroom sizes, taking authority away from some urban school systems, eliminating assistants in elementary schools, and giving taxpayer money to private schools

-Pass a widely touted "tax cut" bill that is anything but that. While the rich and corporations get tax cuts, everyone else will see their overall taxes go UP. A middle income family making around $50,000 will see an increase in their pocket from the income tax cut of about $84/year, or $7/month. That in turn will be consumed by the DOUBLED electricity tax (up from 3.5% to 7%), the increased natural gas tax, as well as new taxes on services. Governor McCrory campaigned on not signing any tax cut bill that wasn't revenue neutral; he lied.

-Pass some of the most restrictive anti-abortion laws in the country. The bill was originally an anti-sharia bill until they added the anti-abortion amendments to it, then they eliminated the anti-sharia part. This bill also bans local or city governments from offering health insurance to their employees that covers abortions. Governor McCrory campaigned on not signing any law that further restricted abortions in NC. He lied.

-Regulatory agencies are being defunded, having their leaders replaced with pro-business types, and having their authority drastically limited by direct legislative directives. A bill passed just this week orders ALL regulatory agencies to institute an immediate review of all regulations, with an eye to eliminating as many as possible and softening the rest. Another bill bans any state or local regulatory agency from using criteri ...


Pretty much this.
/Native North Carolinian
// doing my bit by pointing this shiat out to my co workers every damn day
/// my ulcer is killing me
////help us vote these farkers out next year
 
2013-07-27 08:42:06 AM  
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this allow a voter to go to the wrong precinct and waste the time of someone who COULD be voting there?

Some interesting dirty tactics there. How about a LOT of people at the wrong precinct. Say, perhaps, after they already voted in the correct one.

/ if only voting was a game
 
2013-07-27 09:44:59 AM  

starsrift: Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this allow a voter to go to the wrong precinct and waste the time of someone who COULD be voting there?

Some interesting dirty tactics there. How about a LOT of people at the wrong precinct. Say, perhaps, after they already voted in the correct one.

/ if only voting was a game


In Cali they do provisional ballots for that reason, and I know because I've voted out of precinct a couple of times. I also lose the opportunity to vote for my local representative, as the ballots are slightly different. Since provisionals aren't counted anyway until the very end due to the verification process, fraud here has very little impact on the results. I vote anyway, because I should, but why vote fraudulently when you're doomed to get caught and won't change anything?
 
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