Three years. For three years I warned you this day was coming, but you would not listen. Don't worry, you said, he'll finish. And now Martin has run out of released material. Showtime has 'Homeland', 'Mad Men' is wrapping up, even Fx has 'American Horror Story' and 'The Americans'. The pride was yours, the presumption was yours. For a thousand years, we have been awaiting the conclusion of the book series. And when it doesn't happens, you scorn it, you reject it because you you think you can wrap it up in a collosal clusterfark like 'True Blood'. "You know nothing, Jon Snow. The North remembers." You go to Comic Con and plaster the words, but your intent is empty, your ears closed except to churn out sex and violence. You stand for nothing but your own petty interests. "Meh, we'll just get another hot fantasy series." I do not blame you for standing silent in your shame. You, who knew what was coming, but refused to take up the burden of this war. If the executives will not wrap up the series, then the rest of us will. HBO has lost it's way. If it will not lead, if you have abandoned our commitment to excellence to Television, then we're cancelling our service, as we should have after you cancelled 'Deadwood'. We must stand with the others now before it's too late. Between the internet and Netflix, there is enough streaming media to entertain us. To you, I say, listen to the voice of your conscience. Wrap up the series and come with me. The time for meandering is over. We move now, together or not at all.
ScaryBottles: Even if Snow lives there is no way he's AAR/TPTWP
gilgigamesh: The last half of the final book will just be 900 pages of white walkers shambling around the broken remains of civilization.
Carth: Also worth noting that even GRRM won't say Snow is actually dead.An interview with EW:EW: So why did you kill Jon Snow?GEORGE R.R. MARTIN: Oh, you think he's dead, do you?
ltdanman44: When the queen proclaims one king and the hand proclaims another, who do the gold cloaks follow?[assets.rollingstone.com image 306x306]The man who pays them.[img.pandawhale.com image 850x477]/sorry//my favorite charactor///no spoilers, please!
gilgigamesh: scottydoesntknow: Are they required to go by his source material? Why not do what Dexter did and go in a different direction?Granted the source material for Dexter got weird and sucky after the first one, but I wouldn't think they have to wait for Martin to write more.To a certain extent they have to. By the time you get to book four -- which is pretty big -- he pauses the story lines for a lot of the major characters and starts up new ones.It wouldn't translate well to TV. Imagine a whole season that leaves a bunch of important story lines hanging in order to move on to new ones. A whole season with no Tyrion. You can get away with that in books, but the show would go over a cliff.
ScaryBottles: WhippingBoy: What the hell happened here???Someone got on my nerves so I decided to ruin the thread.
ScaryBottles: ltdanman44: When the queen proclaims one king and the hand proclaims another, who do the gold cloaks follow?[assets.rollingstone.com image 306x306]The man who pays them.[img.pandawhale.com image 850x477]/sorry//my favorite charactor///no spoilers, please!John Snow dies at the end of book 5. If you crybabies don't want spoilers don't look up the series online.Sincerely, people who know how to read.
dj_spanmaster: [img33.imageshack.us image 550x374]When the lights are out I forget she has dragons.
ScaryBottles: Ahh semantics the last refuge of morons. Do you claim to love women so much that you think they should be "protected" by staying knocked up in the kitchen? Oh no tell me the one about how gays have equal rights because they are free to marry ayt woman they want. I can't believe I wasted the time.........
ScaryBottles: Egalitarian: gahhhh, I haven't finished the last book yet and you guyz are spoiling it for me. Urk. Just for that, I'm posting shirtless Gendry.[i154.photobucket.com image 500x259]This flame war started because of people complaining about spoilers. I am so tired of hearing that crap if you go online to check out a show based on books be prepared for spoilers. Why don't we cry about every plot detail revealed by those who have read the Hobbit trilogy? I've never read them so I guess its unfair for anyone on the internet to discuss the story for any reason ever. Thats what you sound like.
ScaryBottles: Freudian_slipknot: ScaryBottles: Sure you a point have unless I explicitly and intentionally used the word proof.eally? Citations for this supposed evidence, difficulty no fans sites or theories. Just the books period. I'll wait and I have all five within reach literally. (my apartment is a shoebox)So yeah proof or quit your cryin'Yes. It is definitely my fault that you don't know what words mean and demanded what was never offered.I can see why you have so much trouble with even the most obvious foreshadowing.Whatever just ignore the bolded passages
ScaryBottles: Sure you a point have unless I explicitly and intentionally used the word proof.eally? Citations for this supposed evidence, difficulty no fans sites or theories. Just the books period. I'll wait and I have all five within reach literally. (my apartment is a shoebox)So yeah proof or quit your cryin'
gilgigamesh: SecretAgentWoman: I'm going to call it: The Iron Throne is just a red herring.It's all about White Walkers/Others verses DragonsWell, sorta. The grand arc here is the uniting all the banners of Westeros under one authority, maybe into a new nation, in time to take on the existential threat to all of them posed by the white walkers.Then again, knowing Martin it may well be that the arc will be deepening civil war blinding everyone to the real threat until its too late, with the white walkers taking advantage of the chaos to wipe them all out.The last half of the final book will just be 900 pages of white walkers shambling around the broken remains of civilization.
Sybarite: Am I the only one who has trouble picturing Peter Dinklage jousting atop a pig?
JerseyTim: They should just take it where it ought to be taken even if George R. R. Martin doesn't get there first: With Hot Pie on the Iron Throne.
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