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(The Atlantic Wire)   HBO's "Game of Thrones" is running out of George R.R. Martin material to adapt, so network sends him message: Keep writing, otherwise we'll have to produce some gratuitous sex and violence episodes   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 266
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2013-07-27 08:46:47 AM
Perhaps if they stopped cutting out most of the story they wouldn't be in this place?
 
2013-07-27 09:08:22 AM

TheFog: Re Hodor: I think there are allusions to him being the love child of Ser Duncan the Tall (dunk and egg novellas) and Nan. Does anyone else recall this or did I dream it?


He's officially Old Nan great-grandson. Which would mean she was at least in her 50s when he was born (assuming she and her daughter, grand-daughter had their kid at 15.)

Unless I'm mistaken, Hodor is often refered to as a "simple-minded boy". Which means he's probably still in his 20s.

Which would mean Old Nan would be 70-80 max. A little too young, IMHO.

This being said, we know from Maester Aemon, that Targaryens last longer when refrigerated, so it may very well mean that she is at least partly Targ.
 
2013-07-27 09:12:00 AM

mikefinch: The series will end by god. Unfinished. Grrm will pass away due to a massive heart attack incurred while he is making brutal violent love to a honey glazed roasted ham.

But really -- they will drag books 4 and 5 into THREE seasons. Easily. People should have seen this coming. Lord knows the roasted ham should see it coming -- the way grrm looks at it with crazed angry lust in his eyes. He WISHES he could finish the next book by 2015 -- he will finish book 6 by 2017 and it will suck even worse than DwD -- I said it once and i will say it again -- abandon hope. Loving this series is like pining for a girl you had a crush on in high school and watching her rebuke your affections as she slowly devolves into a crack hooker. Ahead is only sadness and heartbreak. And not because of anything that happens in the story. More because grrm will die pounding his dick into a chunk of over processed luncheon meat.

\Anyone else has suspicion grrm is watching us? Tossing shiat into the fan? Leaving tiny spoilers? I know i has suspicions. Get back to writing george -- dont you have a ham to bang?


The last two books were bad enough that I don't really care about the series anymore. With any luck Martin will die on top of that ham and the publisher will hire Sanderson to wrap up the series in a manner better than it had any right to.
 
2013-07-27 10:16:04 AM
It peaks with the purple wedding anyway.
 
2013-07-27 11:40:16 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The last two books were bad enough that I don't really care about the series anymore. With any luck Martin will die on top of that ham and the publisher will hire Sanderson to wrap up the series in a manner better than it had any right to.


Supposedly, GRRM already has an arrangement with another writer to finish up the series if he dies. I forget who, but it's not Sanderson (though he did a great job finishing WoT).
 
2013-07-27 11:46:03 AM

mikefinch: \Anyone else has suspicion grrm is watching us? Tossing shiat into the fan? Leaving tiny spoilers? I know i has suspicions. Get back to writing george -- dont you have a ham to bang?


It's possible that he might watch some fan groups, but if he did, why pick Fark of all places?

Though watching fan groups isn't really a very smart thing to do. There's a reason most writers, even those involved in the fanfiction community (and a surprising number are), never read or write fanfic for their own works. Too much risk of accidental influence, leading to a potential lawsuit later. The risk is smaller for more generalized fan groups that don't do fanfic, but it's still there.

Also, if I were a writer involved in this, I'd be way too tempted to troll everyone by deliberately playing up theories I know to be wrong.
 
2013-07-27 11:55:24 AM

Millennium: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: The last two books were bad enough that I don't really care about the series anymore. With any luck Martin will die on top of that ham and the publisher will hire Sanderson to wrap up the series in a manner better than it had any right to.

Supposedly, GRRM already has an arrangement with another writer to finish up the series if he dies. I forget who, but it's not Sanderson (though he did a great job finishing WoT).


Sanderson isn't that style.  Guy G Kay would be the best fit.
 
2013-07-27 11:56:23 AM
So given this article?


Let the show die, if there isn't material, don't rush the man.  I enjoy all of the books and I want the same quality moving forward, I don't want a rush job or fan service to overrule his plot.   The non-readers can fark off.
 
2013-07-27 12:15:36 PM
My theory is there will be no more books. the books are done, the story is going to continue and finish on HBO.
 
2013-07-27 01:19:01 PM
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2013-07-27 01:26:54 PM
Snow's (mostly) death releases him from his Night's Watch vows of celibacy. As probable Dragon Reborn, and as the Targaryen heir, he can marry Danyeras (sibling marriage among the Targeryens has been written about repeatedly) and end the civil war. Bran, parapalegic, physically removed, warg, and unlikely to be a viable candidate for the Iron Throne or father contenders, serves as the representation of the land itself.

The three-headed dragon references John Snow (White, Ghost), Danyeres (Black, Balerion), and Bran (Green, Greenseer). I don't think it is accurate or necessary that Tyrion is a direct Targeryen heir...it makes the world far too small. He is an outcast and survivor and has an affinity for Jon Snow. As the eventual de facto head of House Lannister, his service as Hand or chamberlain (probably not enough training or inclination for maester) to Jon/Danny's rule would solidify the union of the kingdom (and possibly provide the monetary resources for a war). Unified kingdoms, wargs, dragons, foreign armies, Night's Watch/Wildings, and a few discrete assassinations would go a long way towards resistance against the White Walkers.

I suspect that the royal wedding will happen at the end of the (latest) conflict with the White Walkers, but the growing union between the different factions will be reflected in the increasing bond between Stormborn and Snow.

Of course all of these thoughts wouldn't get you a bowl of brown in flea bottom...
 
2013-07-27 02:09:12 PM

kbronsito: gilgigamesh: scottydoesntknow: Are they required to go by his source material? Why not do what Dexter did and go in a different direction?

Granted the source material for Dexter got weird and sucky after the first one, but I wouldn't think they have to wait for Martin to write more.

To a certain extent they have to. By the time you get to book four -- which is pretty big -- he pauses the story lines for a lot of the major characters and starts up new ones.

It wouldn't translate well to TV. Imagine a whole season that leaves a bunch of important story lines hanging in order to move on to new ones. A whole season with no Tyrion. You can get away with that in books, but the show would go over a cliff.

A seson with Tyrion would be bad... but a season without Hodor would be a farking disaster.

My two Hodor theories:
1.  Hodor is somewhat related to the Targaryens. When everyone is dead, he will get the iron throne. and he is not really retarded afterall... he was just playing the long game of thrones.
2. The word "Hodor" is magical and it kills any white walker who hears it.


Np, no,no. "Hodor" is the magical portal to where all the Whores go
 
2013-07-27 02:19:20 PM

Nadie_AZ: SecretAgentWoman: I'm going to call it: The Iron Throne is just a red herring.

It's all about White Walkers/Others verses Dragons

I don't think he knows where to go, next. Or how to end it.


Oh he knows how it ends, he just wrote himself into some corners he hasn't figured out how to solve to get there. He went a little too biig and grand and now doesn't know how to make all the peices fit into the picture in a coherent fashion.

Thats been the most interesting part of watching the show for me. While I hate they left out a few things there are plenty of examples of their streamlining the story that are major improvements over the book. I really think George would benefit from a more hamfisted editor chopping some of the extraneous storylines and characters.
 
2013-07-27 02:19:32 PM
Chapter 1. Hodor Targaryen

Hodor! Hodoorrrrrr!

"Hodor."
 
2013-07-27 06:04:31 PM
OMFG. Finally.

ALL of Crusader Kings 2 is on sale today on Steam, including The Old Gods and the Celtic stuff. farking Summer Sale didn't include those last bits.

So if you want the best Game of Thrones mod evar, then you need to get CK2.

/Playing as Stannis during the Clash of Kings is a biatch because everyone hates you, everyone mistrusts your Red Witch & her god, but you can offer up your enemies to the Lord of Light (i.e. send them to the pyres, burn them to death) instead of just sending them off to the Wall like a civilized asshole. Hahaha.
 
2013-07-27 07:40:39 PM
I thought R R Martin asked the HBO guys to wrap it up...
 
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