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2013-07-26 03:01:18 PM

Cagey B: Well, this thread degenerated.

"George R.R. Martin has had characters appear to be dead/actually die (Beric Dondarrion, Ser Davos, Catelyn Stark, Bran and Rickon Stark, Aegon Targaryen, Jon Connington, Gregor Clegane) repeatedly. He's written characters that are capable of warging into other creatures and maintaining their consciousness after death (Orell). Also, there's these R'hllor guys who are capable of bringing people back from the dead. One of whom happens to be at the Wall. HOW DARE YOU THINK JON SNOW IS ANYTHING BUT PERMANENTLY DEAD FOREVER AND ALWAYS."


I am willing to consider the possibility that Snow will live. But thank you for putting words in my mouth. I take exception to those who won't even consider the possibility he's dead. But once again thanks for putting words in my mouth.

Its not even that they won't see that he may be dead that gets me, its the thinking behind it. Its like M. Night Shaymalan twist crap, they think they are smarter than everyone else because they figured out a secret. Oh and have I thanked you yet for putting words in my mouth?
 
2013-07-26 03:02:14 PM

KellyX: her brother too, but he will be killed at beginning of Book 6.


Nah, he's not actually Aegon, but rather a Blackfyre bastard being passed off and trained up to be king.  It's probably what's actually best for the realm, but he's definitely a fake.  Being a Blackfyre would also explain why the Golden Company would break a contract for the first time in history to take up his cause.

/Some contracts are writ in ink, and some in blood. I say no more
 
2013-07-26 03:03:19 PM

legion_of_doo: It's pretty clear Danaerys, Bran, and maybe Tyrion have plot immunity. Jon Snow might be mostly dead, but odds are he'll be dragged back in.


It's made clear by the prologue of book 5 that Jon Snow will be spending some time inside of Ghost during book 6.

You're right about plot immunity, though.  My feeling is that the last chapter of the last book will be Bran's, since his is the first chapter in the first book.
 
2013-07-26 03:10:44 PM

ScaryBottles: I said no theories or fan speculation, take that away from your arguments and basically you have nothing. Please take a seat next to the Ned Stark and Robb deniers. Why is Martin's statement that no is safe in his series so hard for people to grasp? I miss the Hound terribly (yeah yeah I know Brienne, Quiet Isle etc its a theory based on speculation until they do a true reveal he's dead as far as I am concerned) but dude he's dead most likely.


Snow being dead is a theory and speculation. He got stabbed, then blacked out. We know no more than that.

Martin used a cliffhanger for Tyrion at the end of a chapter, fell into the river... drowning... last thing he saw.... oh he must be dead.
But oh look, he was just blacking out, he's totally rescued.
At the end of book 2, there was "the last thing Theon Grayjoy saw" or similar... but he was just knocked out (probably wishes it were the last thing he saw).

I think Martin's done this few other times that I can't recall off the top of my head, and that's not even taking into account the whole Stoneheart/Hangwoman nonsense.

If Snow were dead, Martin likely would have written about his death unambiguously, as he did with Ned Stark, Robb Stark (to say the least), Joffrey, etc.

I'm not a fan of this, mind you. I think it's cheap.
Plenty of people were probably suckered into thinking Aria would be permanently blind, Brienne will actually be hung (she'll be saved by the "one word" she shouts out), etc.

Killing off Snow would be fine.. helps move the plot along, helps get the Others getting past the Wall, to their ultimate battle with Westeros, after the Targaryans and their Dragons have won it back with the help of Varys.

Snow may well die. I just doubt he's dead... yet.

//your theory's worth about as much as anyone else's.
//would be rather anti-climatic if the Others never make it past the Wall
 
2013-07-26 03:13:30 PM

ScaryBottles: ShadowKamui: Actually Arya is safe, his wife made him promise that she wouldn't die.  And Danny has invincible plot armor till she gets to Westerous

Unless of course he intends to have the White Walkers win, never rule that out.


Even w/ that he still wouldn't kill Arya; the story would end w/ her turning into Michonne from Walking Dead
 
2013-07-26 03:15:42 PM

Mike Chewbacca: ScaryBottles: Your wife is probably right on that one, what gets me is how many people it has seemed to slip past that Jaime and Cersei were fathered by Aerys. Again just a theory of mine I've been kicking around since book 2 so take it or leave it but its looking more likely each book.

What makes you think that?


Like I said just a theory could be nonsense. But my points are:

Its been stated several times that there was bad blood between Tywin and Aerys that was unrelated to the war.

Its been stated that Aerys had a bit of a fixation on Tywin's wife Joanna.

Its been stated that Aerys grievously insulted Tywin at his wedding, although its never explicitly described the context makes it seem that it was more than just your wife looks fat in that dress.

In the past two books the idea of "first night" privileges has been brought up a few times, even one person can't recall who maybe Theon states that the Umbers still observe the custom and that was an established if rarely envoked custom under the Targs.

Jaime and Cersei have been described as almost rivaling the "unnatural" beauty of the Targs.

Incest runs in Targ family it is known.

Tyrion is not described as looking even remotely like Jaime or Cersei with the exception of the Blond hair.

It has been confirmed time and again that Tyrion is almost indisputably Tywin's son see previous point.

I have more but the rest is even more speculative. The difference is I know my insane theory is insane most likely.
 
2013-07-26 03:16:47 PM

ScaryBottles: Your wife is probably right on that one, what gets me is how many people it has seemed to slip past that Jaime and Cersei were fathered by Aerys. Again just a theory of mine I've been kicking around since book 2 so take it or leave it but its looking more likely each book.


What makes you think that?
 
2013-07-26 03:19:07 PM

Freudian_slipknot: Carth: There is no evidence he is actually dead and a lot of evidence that he'll be back in winds of winter.

ScaryBottles: Really? Citations for this supposed evidence, difficulty no fans sites or theories

I can read.  Can you?

Or did you forget mid-stream what you were asking for?

/not the one conflating evidence and proof.


Sure you a point have unless I explicitly and intentionally used the word proof.

eally? Citations for this supposed evidence, difficulty no fans sites or theories. Just the books period. I'll wait and I have all five within reach literally. (my apartment is a shoebox)So yeah proof or quit your cryin'
 
2013-07-26 03:21:11 PM

Clash City Farker: KellyX: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion are the last three real Targaryens... her brother too, but he will be killed at beginning of Book 6...

Book it!

They are the 3 heads of the dragon. I believe there are still other Targs floating around.


I'm thinking Jaime, Stannis (Baratheons have dragon blood in them, thats the justification Robert used to claim the throne) and Dany.
 
2013-07-26 03:23:19 PM

ScaryBottles: Clash City Farker: KellyX: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion are the last three real Targaryens... her brother too, but he will be killed at beginning of Book 6...

Book it!

They are the 3 heads of the dragon. I believe there are still other Targs floating around.

I'm thinking Jaime, Stannis (Baratheons have dragon blood in them, thats the justification Robert used to claim the throne) and Dany.


I think the Mad King raped Tywin's wife, that's how Tyrion came about... Tywin either suspected but was too proud to ever admit it, or never knew the truth.

The theories on Jon Snow are sound and you probably know them...
 
2013-07-26 03:23:46 PM
Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion's mother all died in child birth.
 
2013-07-26 03:24:13 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Plenty of people were probably suckered into thinking Aria would be permanently blind, Brienne will actually be hung (she'll be saved by the "one word" she shouts out), etc.


i thought it was clear she wasn't going to be hung because she yelled out her one word... thought the cliffhanger was going to be "what was the word?!?!"

/even though it was super duper obvious
 
2013-07-26 03:26:30 PM

Clash City Farker: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion's mother all died in child birth.


What?
 
2013-07-26 03:27:24 PM
gahhhh, I haven't finished the last book yet and you guyz are spoiling it for me. Urk. Just for that, I'm posting shirtless Gendry.

i154.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-26 03:28:08 PM

HawgWild: FTFA: The problem has always been that Martin hasn't yet written the final two books in the seven-book series the show is based on. And he's not terribly fast at writing them: the five books so far in the series have been published over 15 years; the television show has covered three of those books in three years.

*adjusts nerd glasses*

Uh, technically, they have finished 2 1/2 books in 3 years. The fourth season will cover the second half of the third book.

Now, if you will excuse me ... I have to organize my pocket protectors.


By size or color?
 
2013-07-26 03:28:23 PM

KellyX: ScaryBottles: Clash City Farker: KellyX: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion are the last three real Targaryens... her brother too, but he will be killed at beginning of Book 6...

Book it!

They are the 3 heads of the dragon. I believe there are still other Targs floating around.

I'm thinking Jaime, Stannis (Baratheons have dragon blood in them, thats the justification Robert used to claim the throne) and Dany.

I think the Mad King raped Tywin's wife, that's how Tyrion came about... Tywin either suspected but was too proud to ever admit it, or never knew the truth.

The theories on Jon Snow are sound and you probably know them...


I would agree but Jaime and Cersei were the first born Lannisters and it says that the bad blood between Tywin and Aerys started just after his Tywin's wedding and the "first night" custom mentioned in the books gives Aerys the motive, means and oppurtunity to rape Joanna.
 
2013-07-26 03:28:46 PM

Nadie_AZ: I don't think he knows where to go, next. Or how to end it.


well according to GRRM himself he knows how it is going to end. He also had to tell HBO how it is going to end, but that is /no/ guarantee that the books and the series will end in the same way.
 
2013-07-26 03:29:19 PM

Carth: Depends if they plan to <stop reading here show only people> bring her back instead of Catelyn. That would have very big implications for Brienne's storyline.

We haven't heard from her yet. We know the Jamie's description of her doesn't match Catelyns so there is the possibility she actually does have a little king to the north in her somewhere and is in hiding.


i would suspect not, because then you have to come up with a new reason for her not to hang brienne, or cut that entire plot line. We'll have to see what the end of that semi-cliffhanger is (if it doesn't push the overall plot anywhere, then she could be swapped in easily enough... or they could just cut the whole lady stoneheart thing. so far it hasn't yeilded any real plot momentum beyond some allusions to how the resurrection effects different people)
 
2013-07-26 03:29:32 PM

KellyX: ScaryBottles: Clash City Farker: KellyX: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion are the last three real Targaryens... her brother too, but he will be killed at beginning of Book 6...

Book it!

They are the 3 heads of the dragon. I believe there are still other Targs floating around.

I'm thinking Jaime, Stannis (Baratheons have dragon blood in them, thats the justification Robert used to claim the throne) and Dany.

I think the Mad King raped Tywin's wife, that's how Tyrion came about... Tywin either suspected but was too proud to ever admit it, or never knew the truth.

The theories on Jon Snow are sound and you probably know them...


There is no evidence in the book that the Mad King did anything w/ Tywins wife after the wedding incident.  Not to mention, Tywin would have moon tea-ed out any rape spawn and/or tossed it down a well.
 
2013-07-26 03:30:55 PM
ADwD, Melisandre Chapter (27ish?):

"Death, thought Melisandre.The skills are death.  The flames crackled softly, and in their crackling she heard the whispered nameJohn Snow. His long face floated before her, limned in tongues of red and orange, appearing and disappearing again, a shadow half-seen behind a fluttering curtain. Now he was a man, now a wolf, now a man again. But the skulls were here as well, the skulls were all around him."


 Also of import, shortly thereafter:

"Yet now she could not even seem to find her king.I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R'hllor show me only Snow."

This isn't all that subtle, I don't think. Snow dies, goes into ghost, and comes back as a man again (whether in his own body or someone else's. He is also Azor Ahai reborn. Just from the text. Melisandre didn't understand what the flames were trying to tell her, despite touting her own skill at reading them, but we, as readers, can.

Is it possible this is deliberate misdirection from Martin? Of course. But it's somewhat silly to take the position that it's most likely that John is perma-dead and that Dany, not John, is AAR.
 
2013-07-26 03:31:37 PM

tlchwi02: tallguywithglasseson: Plenty of people were probably suckered into thinking Aria would be permanently blind, Brienne will actually be hung (she'll be saved by the "one word" she shouts out), etc.

i thought it was clear she wasn't going to be hung because she yelled out her one word... thought the cliffhanger was going to be "what was the word?!?!"

/even though it was super duper obvious


I'm pretty sure I remember Brienne showing up later in a Jaime chapter saying she found Sansa Stark and he has to come with her, alone.

Though, no explanation was given as to how she got away. Cersei receives word of Jamie running off with Brienne and she is pissed.

Am I way off?
 
2013-07-26 03:31:53 PM
Hope they consider adapting the "Wildcards" books. . .
 
2013-07-26 03:32:19 PM

ScaryBottles: Sure you a point have unless I explicitly and intentionally used the word proof.

eally? Citations for this supposed evidence, difficulty no fans sites or theories. Just the books period. I'll wait and I have all five within reach literally. (my apartment is a shoebox)So yeah proof or quit your cryin'


Yes.  It is definitely my fault that you don't know what words mean and demanded what was never offered.

I can see why you have so much trouble with even the most obvious foreshadowing.
 
2013-07-26 03:32:25 PM

Egalitarian: gahhhh, I haven't finished the last book yet and you guyz are spoiling it for me. Urk. Just for that, I'm posting shirtless Gendry.

[i154.photobucket.com image 500x259]


This flame war started because of people complaining about spoilers. I am so tired of hearing that crap if you go online to check out a show based on books be prepared for spoilers. Why don't we cry about every plot detail revealed by those who have read the Hobbit trilogy? I've never read them so I guess its unfair for anyone on the internet to discuss the story for any reason ever. Thats what you sound like.
 
2013-07-26 03:34:35 PM

mcmnky: gilgigamesh: scottydoesntknow: Are they required to go by his source material? Why not do what Dexter did and go in a different direction?

Granted the source material for Dexter got weird and sucky after the first one, but I wouldn't think they have to wait for Martin to write more.

To a certain extent they have to. By the time you get to book four -- which is pretty big -- he pauses the story lines for a lot of the major characters and starts up new ones.

It wouldn't translate well to TV. Imagine a whole season that leaves a bunch of important story lines hanging in order to move on to new ones. A whole season with no Tyrion. You can get away with that in books, but the show would go over a cliff.

actually, you can't get away with that in books either.

book 4 sucked.


I imagine that the show will cover books 4 and 5 concurrently, and pad them out to a total of 3 seasons.
 
2013-07-26 03:34:58 PM

Sybarite: Am I the only one who has trouble picturing Peter Dinklage jousting atop a pig?


Yes.
 
2013-07-26 03:34:58 PM

Clash City Farker: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion's mother all died in child birth.


Death by childbirth is pretty common when modern Western medical help isn't available. It sucks to be a woman in a 3rd world country and/or before the 20th century.
 
2013-07-26 03:35:39 PM

Big Beef Burrito: I'm pretty sure I remember Brienne showing up later in a Jaime chapter saying she found Sansa Stark and he has to come with her, alone.

Though, no explanation was given as to how she got away. Cersei receives word of Jamie running off with Brienne and she is pissed.


oh yeah, i forgot they put that in. in my recollection they'd just ended it with brienne
 
2013-07-26 03:37:29 PM

tlchwi02: Big Beef Burrito: I'm pretty sure I remember Brienne showing up later in a Jaime chapter saying she found Sansa Stark and he has to come with her, alone.

Though, no explanation was given as to how she got away. Cersei receives word of Jamie running off with Brienne and she is pissed.

oh yeah, i forgot they put that in. in my recollection they'd just ended it with brienne


I recently read the combined version of books 4 & 5. It was much better that way, but I think you are correct that either book 4 or 5 ended Brienne's story with her on the noose. She shows up towards the end of the other one.
 
2013-07-26 03:37:51 PM
Sam Tarley is SO close to discovering from the Maesters that they are all Cylons.
 
2013-07-26 03:39:47 PM

KellyX: ScaryBottles: Clash City Farker: KellyX: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion are the last three real Targaryens... her brother too, but he will be killed at beginning of Book 6...

Book it!

They are the 3 heads of the dragon. I believe there are still other Targs floating around.

I'm thinking Jaime, Stannis (Baratheons have dragon blood in them, thats the justification Robert used to claim the throne) and Dany.

I think the Mad King raped Tywin's wife, that's how Tyrion came about... Tywin either suspected but was too proud to ever admit it, or never knew the truth.

The theories on Jon Snow are sound and you probably know them...


Or maybe the fact that Tywin knew Tyrion was his only legitimate heir was what kept Tywin from flinging him off the Walls of Casterly Rock. Honestly being a sectret Targ demeans and belittles the character of Tyrion. Tyrion's defining characteristic is his very complicated and difficult relationship with his father. If this were Harry Potter you might be on to something. Yeah and before you say it  why would Tywin feel familial obligation to a baby he knew wasn't his. Especially a hideously misshapen freak? (they make Tyrion a lot more handsome on the show than he is in the books)
 
2013-07-26 03:41:52 PM

Freudian_slipknot: ScaryBottles: Sure you a point have unless I explicitly and intentionally used the word proof.

eally? Citations for this supposed evidence, difficulty no fans sites or theories. Just the books period. I'll wait and I have all five within reach literally. (my apartment is a shoebox)So yeah proof or quit your cryin'

Yes.  It is definitely my fault that you don't know what words mean and demanded what was never offered.

I can see why you have so much trouble with even the most obvious foreshadowing.


Whatever just ignore the bolded passages
 
2013-07-26 03:43:59 PM

Big Beef Burrito: I'm pretty sure I remember Brienne showing up later in a Jaime chapter saying she found Sansa Stark and he has to come with her, alone.

Though, no explanation was given as to how she got away. Cersei receives word of Jamie running off with Brienne and she is pissed.

Am I way off?


Oh right, my bad.

Martin has already done the end-around with Brienne's hanging, cliffhanger in book 4, found to be alive in book 5.
So she was definitely saved by the one word she yelled out (I thought was obvious too, but then I thought it was obvious Jon Snow's death is a fake-out).
We just don't know the details yet.
 
2013-07-26 03:44:15 PM

Big Beef Burrito: I recently read the combined version of books 4 & 5. It was much better that way, but I think you are correct that either book 4 or 5 ended Brienne's story with her on the noose. She shows up towards the end of the other one.


i re-read book 4 and half of 5 while on vaction awhile ago, that may be why i don't remember that. whenever that occured, i still think i know what she would have shouted
 
2013-07-26 03:44:59 PM

Egalitarian: Clash City Farker: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion's mother all died in child birth.

Death by childbirth is pretty common when modern Western medical help isn't available. It sucks to be a woman in a 3rd world country and/or before the 20th century.


Thats denial. What does fat boy have to do spell it out for you?
 
2013-07-26 03:45:31 PM

ScaryBottles: Freudian_slipknot: ScaryBottles: Sure you a point have unless I explicitly and intentionally used the word proof.

eally? Citations for this supposed evidence, difficulty no fans sites or theories. Just the books period. I'll wait and I have all five within reach literally. (my apartment is a shoebox)So yeah proof or quit your cryin'

Yes.  It is definitely my fault that you don't know what words mean and demanded what was never offered.

I can see why you have so much trouble with even the most obvious foreshadowing.

Whatever just ignore the bolded passages


I read them.  I also read the words around them, which apparently you've repeatedly skipped.  Again, this failure to comprehend context really explains the difficulty you're having with GoT.
 
2013-07-26 03:47:34 PM

ScaryBottles: Egalitarian: gahhhh, I haven't finished the last book yet and you guyz are spoiling it for me. Urk. Just for that, I'm posting shirtless Gendry.

[i154.photobucket.com image 500x259]

This flame war started because of people complaining about spoilers. I am so tired of hearing that crap if you go online to check out a show based on books be prepared for spoilers. Why don't we cry about every plot detail revealed by those who have read the Hobbit trilogy? I've never read them so I guess its unfair for anyone on the internet to discuss the story for any reason ever. Thats what you sound like.


LOL I assume you're trolling. Reading the Hobbit trilogy?

i154.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-26 03:49:37 PM

Clash City Farker: Egalitarian: Clash City Farker: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion's mother all died in child birth.

Death by childbirth is pretty common when modern Western medical help isn't available. It sucks to be a woman in a 3rd world country and/or before the 20th century.

Thats denial. What does fat boy have to do spell it out for you?


Uhm your argument is the weakest I've heard in associated with the three heads of the dragon honestly, not saying you are wrong but yeah your argument is lacking.
 
2013-07-26 03:51:59 PM

ScaryBottles: Clash City Farker: Egalitarian: Clash City Farker: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion's mother all died in child birth.

Death by childbirth is pretty common when modern Western medical help isn't available. It sucks to be a woman in a 3rd world country and/or before the 20th century.

Thats denial. What does fat boy have to do spell it out for you?

Uhm your argument is the weakest I've heard in associated with the three heads of the dragon honestly, not saying you are wrong but yeah your argument is lacking.


Thats because I'm not arguing.
 
2013-07-26 03:53:43 PM

Freudian_slipknot: ScaryBottles: Freudian_slipknot: ScaryBottles: Sure you a point have unless I explicitly and intentionally used the word proof.

eally? Citations for this supposed evidence, difficulty no fans sites or theories. Just the books period. I'll wait and I have all five within reach literally. (my apartment is a shoebox)So yeah proof or quit your cryin'

Yes.  It is definitely my fault that you don't know what words mean and demanded what was never offered.

I can see why you have so much trouble with even the most obvious foreshadowing.

Whatever just ignore the bolded passages

I read them.  I also read the words around them, which apparently you've repeatedly skipped.  Again, this failure to comprehend context really explains the difficulty you're having with GoT.


Ahh semantics the last refuge of morons. Do you claim to love women so much that you think they should be "protected" by staying knocked up in the kitchen? Oh no tell me the one about how gays have equal rights because they are free to marry ayt woman they want. I can't believe I wasted the time.........
 
2013-07-26 03:55:41 PM
ScaryBottles:
Ahh semantics the last refuge of morons. Do you claim to love women so much that you think they should be "protected" by staying knocked up in the kitchen? Oh no tell me the one about how gays have equal rights because they are free to marry ayt woman they want. I can't believe I wasted the time.........

The Maid of Tarth, ladies and gentlemen...
 
2013-07-26 03:56:04 PM

Clash City Farker: ScaryBottles: Clash City Farker: Egalitarian: Clash City Farker: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion's mother all died in child birth.

Death by childbirth is pretty common when modern Western medical help isn't available. It sucks to be a woman in a 3rd world country and/or before the 20th century.

Thats denial. What does fat boy have to do spell it out for you?

Uhm your argument is the weakest I've heard in associated with the three heads of the dragon honestly, not saying you are wrong but yeah your argument is lacking.

Thats because I'm not arguing.


Wow seriously implying someone is so dumb that they have to have something spelled out to them isn't argumentative. Is that what you're saying?
 
2013-07-26 03:57:33 PM
What the hell happened here???
 
2013-07-26 03:58:19 PM

1derful: ScaryBottles:
Ahh semantics the last refuge of morons. Do you claim to love women so much that you think they should be "protected" by staying knocked up in the kitchen? Oh no tell me the one about how gays have equal rights because they are free to marry ayt woman they want. I can't believe I wasted the time.........

The Maid of Tarth, ladies and gentlemen...


No I just have no patience for pseudo intellectual bullshiat.
 
2013-07-26 03:59:16 PM

WhippingBoy: What the hell happened here???


Someone got on my nerves so I decided to ruin the thread.
 
2013-07-26 04:00:07 PM
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Oh, so that's what the show's about. I can see that I'm missing out.
 
2013-07-26 04:00:28 PM

tlchwi02: Big Beef Burrito: I recently read the combined version of books 4 & 5. It was much better that way, but I think you are correct that either book 4 or 5 ended Brienne's story with her on the noose. She shows up towards the end of the other one.

i re-read book 4 and half of 5 while on vaction awhile ago, that may be why i don't remember that. whenever that occured, i still think i know what she would have shouted


What is your guess? I couldn't think of any one word. Maybe Arya, but I don't really remember if Brienne found out Arya was alive or not.
 
2013-07-26 04:00:32 PM

ScaryBottles: Ahh semantics the last refuge of morons. Do you claim to love women so much that you think they should be "protected" by staying knocked up in the kitchen? Oh no tell me the one about how gays have equal rights because they are free to marry ayt woman they want. I can't believe I wasted the time.........


You're adorably insane.
 
2013-07-26 04:01:11 PM

ScaryBottles: Clash City Farker: ScaryBottles: Clash City Farker: Egalitarian: Clash City Farker: Dany, Jon Snow and Tyrion's mother all died in child birth.

Death by childbirth is pretty common when modern Western medical help isn't available. It sucks to be a woman in a 3rd world country and/or before the 20th century.

Thats denial. What does fat boy have to do spell it out for you?

Uhm your argument is the weakest I've heard in associated with the three heads of the dragon honestly, not saying you are wrong but yeah your argument is lacking.

Thats because I'm not arguing.

Wow seriously implying someone is so dumb that they have to have something spelled out to them isn't argumentative. Is that what you're saying?


So you think its a coincidence that the three most important characters in the story just happened to have mothers who all died in childbirth?
 
2013-07-26 04:01:58 PM

Big Beef Burrito: What is your guess? I couldn't think of any one word. Maybe Arya, but I don't really remember if Brienne found out Arya was alive or not.


i'd say definetly arya, because she had just learned from the monks that the hound had been seen with arya (and he was quite certain of it.) I don't think she'd have cut brienne down for any other single word
 
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