Speaker2Animals: namatad: waitdidnt god decide that Rmoney was going to be president and make the US a christian nation??Mormons aren't Christians, are they?
ObnoxiousLonghorn: Lando Lincoln: ObnoxiousLonghorn: I understand it is difficult to see how Mormon's view God's level of "devine intervention."Cliff Notes version: He pretty much stays out of crap, good or bad, but we still give thanks to him for the good and ask him to prevent the bad. He does not cause death or prevent it, usually, but you can't rule out the intervention.He is like the ultimate scientist and kinda lets Earth and Humans do it's thing. This lets people feel good, bad, sadness, horror, and so on as to build experience, teach us lessons and so forth. A large factor is agency. He does not control people's actions. If Mr. Train Oporator neglected his duties, too bad, he has to live with the concequece of feeling terrible about the deaths and whatever else his punichment entails.Hope that helps clarify the point of view of Mormons./Not a chruch rep, so don't quote meThat's a great theology if you want to create an image of a God that can't be blamed for anything bad that happens, ever."God, please stop my house from being burned in this forest fire!"[house doesn't burn down]"Yay! God intervened and saved my house! God is great!"[house burns down]"Huh. Well...I guess God is trying to teach me a lesson through all this."/facepam...I tried. You won't touch it, but I will leave this here mormon.org
nekom: Benevolent Misanthrope:You know, the more I get to know him, the more I realize that this "God" character is a real dick.So he DOES belong in a woman's vagina? Checkmate, libtards.
Chach: happydude45: Well, now I know how to find the bitter fark assholes. Just find a Mormon thread.You people suck.Mormon stuff is pretty ad but you should see how the Catholics get piled on.Christians are out there saving the world and these ingrates will have none of it.
FormlessOne: Never occurs to him that Moroni engineered the crash, killing all those people, just to make him feel a little more self-righteous.
happydude45: Well, now I know how to find the bitter fark assholes.
Millennium: Putting on my devil's-advocate hat for a moment, the thing about plans is that they have goals. At some point, they finish. If we assume that God has plans for people, what happens when they finish their plans?
noitsnot: If you've ever had the misfortune to be obliquely involved with some Mormon kid about to be on, or on, his mission - that's all they can do is spout crap about faith and god and purpose and so forth. They are being mentally conditioned every minute of every day to relate every minutia of everyday life to god and religion. If they got a pretty good turkey sandwich, they would (totally serious here) mention how god had clearly favored their lunch today and blessed this wonderful turkey sandwich and we should all glorify his name.
James!: happydude45: Well, now I know how to find the bitter fark assholes.By opening any thread about any subject at any time? You really found the needle in the giant factory dedicated to the manufacturing of needles.
happydude45: Well, now I know how to find the bitter fark assholes. Just find a Mormon thread.You people suck.
nekom: the lost tribes of Israel that somehow became Native Americans
MrBallou: FTFA: "Not many people come that close to death twice before age 20"Obviously God had plans for the ones that died, too. He wanted to see them in Heaven.Face it, Magic Underwear Boy. You got rejected by God, not once, but twice.
James!: God saved me from this tragic accident he in no way created or allowed to kill all these other people.
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