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2013-07-26 12:31:05 PM
Woo Hoo! Urban Farming Time!
 
2013-07-26 12:32:44 PM
Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.
 
2013-07-26 12:32:58 PM
Again?
 
2013-07-26 12:33:13 PM
Someday it will be an archaeological treasure trove under a parking lot or a forest.
 
2013-07-26 12:33:48 PM
Oh look. It's this thread. And photos.

Again.

And again.

 And again.
 
2013-07-26 12:33:54 PM
you would figure the beautiful finishing work and fixtures could be stripped out and sold... Even if it is "illegal" you'd figure someone would be working on that.
 
2013-07-26 12:34:19 PM

Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.


I gave up on them a few years ago.  They've gone full retard just like MTV and the History channel have.
 
2013-07-26 12:35:56 PM
Don't we get a photos-of-abandoned-Detroit thread every couple of months?
 
2013-07-26 12:36:06 PM
Hey I remember these photos from every ruin porn story about Detroit, ever.

/seriously, there is so much urban decay
//find some new pics
 
2013-07-26 12:37:15 PM

PowerSlacker: Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.

I gave up on them a few years ago.  They've gone full retard just like MTV and the History channel have.


or SYFY
 
2013-07-26 12:38:25 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Woo Hoo! Urban Farming Time!


Would you like lead or mercury with that?
 
2013-07-26 12:38:29 PM
The very first place I dropped the Street View marker, completely at random:

dl.dropboxusercontent.com

Sad, so sad.
 
2013-07-26 12:38:53 PM
Still, I find these photos fascinating and heart-breaking at the same time...
 
2013-07-26 12:40:52 PM
Enuratique

Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.


This, especially since all these pictures have been re posted from a TIME article about 4 years ago.
 
2013-07-26 12:41:08 PM
Picture 21 looks like the house they live in from Fight Club.
 
2013-07-26 12:42:21 PM
How many frickin' times are we going to greenlight this?  We get it:  Detroit's a shiathole.  It's always been a shiathole.  It always  will be a shiathole.  Right now, it just happens to be a shiathole with empty buildings and will be for some time.
 
2013-07-26 12:42:54 PM
Fallout 4 should be set in Detroit, clearly.  They'd not even need to do a conversion, they could just take the existing pics and model the levels off of reality.
 
2013-07-26 12:43:01 PM
Be great places for paint ball battles
 
2013-07-26 12:43:11 PM
Why hasn't Hollywood bought the entire city to use for their apocalyptic sets?
 
2013-07-26 12:43:35 PM
You know what'll fix all that right up? A billion dollar hockey arena, that's what!
 
2013-07-26 12:43:59 PM
Why not just bulldoze the entire city down and start anew?

/we can ship the delinquents in little crates out to sea.
 
2013-07-26 12:45:13 PM

Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.


The Weather Channel is losing ratings because people can get weather reports from their phones or the internet instead of watch a rotating regional report on tv. Only old people still watch it. So they are attempting to revitalize their market share with reality programming.

One of the many ways that the internet is killing tv.
 
2013-07-26 12:45:15 PM
Roller Bob

Why hasn't Hollywood bought the entire city to use for their apocalyptic sets?

That is the same kind of forward thinking that does not belong here or in politics.
 
2013-07-26 12:46:18 PM
Yeah, all I know is I'm upstairs I'm listenin' to my Will Smith cd and I seen all these flames going everywhere you know what I'm sayin'? Hold on a minute. Yo! Hey, hold on a minute!

DETROIT, WHAT! DETROIT, WHAT! DETROIT BABY!
 
2013-07-26 12:46:18 PM
img825.imageshack.us

"Yeah. I'll go to New York, but I ain't going anywhere near your Detroit."
 
2013-07-26 12:46:46 PM

TheMaskedArmadillo: Still, I find these photos fascinating and heart-breaking at the same time...


While is heartbreaking, no one ever talks about the good things going on there. A lot of the empty buildings downtown are being converted into office and residential space, including the David Whitney Building, which was pictured.
 
2013-07-26 12:48:31 PM

Revek: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Woo Hoo! Urban Farming Time!

Would you like lead or mercury with that?


It seems to me that environmental scientists and groups should be chomping at the bit here. Land is plentiful, dirt cheap, and heavily contaminated: what better testbed could you possibly have for experiments in heavy-duty land reclamation/rehabilitation? Land sales could probably give the city a much-needed infusion of cash, too.
 
2013-07-26 12:48:37 PM
Detroit. What a joke.
 
2013-07-26 12:48:45 PM

Roller Bob: Why hasn't Hollywood bought the entire city to use for their apocalyptic sets?


They basically did about 4 years ago because the state was giving tax incentives. Then those incentives expired... So the filming pretty much left.
 
2013-07-26 12:48:51 PM
blogs.computerworld.com
 
2013-07-26 12:49:27 PM
Did you know that Fort Détroit was a fort established by the French officer Antoine de la Mothe Cadillac?
Hmmm, Cadillac.
 
2013-07-26 12:51:32 PM

mooseyfate: Detroit. What a joke.


That's funny coming from someone who claims to work in "disaster restoration" in New Orleans. You obviously aren't very good at your job.
 
2013-07-26 12:51:55 PM

Weidbrewer: It's always been a shiathole.


This is not true.
 
2013-07-26 12:52:42 PM

arashinogarou: The very first place I dropped the Street View marker, completely at random:

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 800x487]

Sad, so sad.


Here is a not so random picture that I remember from when I was there.  On the left is an abandoned factory, on the right is a new casino.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com
 
2013-07-26 12:53:33 PM
i.ytimg.com
and

arashinogarou: The very first place I dropped the Street View marker, completely at random:

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 800x487]

Sad, so sad.


i.huffpost.com
www.detroityes.com

/oblig
 
2013-07-26 12:54:41 PM

cgraves67: Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.

The Weather Channel is losing ratings because people can get weather reports from their phones or the internet instead of watch a rotating regional report on tv. Only old people still watch it. So they are attempting to revitalize their market share with reality programming.

One of the many ways that the internet is killing tv.


You best not be bad-mouthing my beloved internet!
 
2013-07-26 12:55:39 PM

jonas opines: Fallout 4 should be set in Detroit, clearly.  They'd not even need to do a conversion, they could just take the existing pics and model the levels off of reality.


I had an idea for a video game like that, set in an alternative history where the 2008 ressesion was even worse and ended up bankrupting the government and causing many areas in the USA to become ruled by drug cartel-like gangs.
 
2013-07-26 12:56:17 PM
I like how subby found this article in the Travel section. Of the Weather Channel site.


Also, with little police presence and no one around to call them anyway, I'm surprised those apartments and home aren't more ripped up than they already are. Copper pipes, anyone?
 
2013-07-26 12:58:26 PM
Build a giant wall around the city and ship all the prisoners there.

Maybe place cameras throughout to watch what the criminals are up to.
 
2013-07-26 12:58:36 PM

arashinogarou: The very first place I dropped the Street View marker, completely at random:

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 800x487]

Sad, so sad.


That's an improvement over a lot of places in Detroit.

No bombed out houses, the grass is cut, no homies pointing guns at you.
 
2013-07-26 12:59:56 PM
Most of those places aren't as trashed as I thought they would be. Around here, anything abandoned is completely ripped apart, as in even wall receptacles are bashed in.
It would be neat to refurbish and move into some small industrial building, in a hipster kind of way.
Except for the poverty, crime, violence, vermin, racism......
 
2013-07-26 01:00:32 PM
Looks like things have gone downhill for Slide 17 since the photos were taken:

farm6.staticflickr.com

www.detroitfunk.com

si.wsj.net
 
2013-07-26 01:00:33 PM
If this place isn't haunted, I'll eat my hat.

s24.postimg.org


P.S.  Under the circumstances, is it really necessary to end the title of every image with "in Detroit"?
 
2013-07-26 01:00:37 PM

Boo_Guy: Build a giant wall around the city and ship all the prisoners there.

Maybe place cameras throughout to watch what the criminals are up to.


Or make a game show out of it!

karlails.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-26 01:01:05 PM
I really want some of that furniture, but not enough to risk being gang raped by crack heads...
 
2013-07-26 01:02:37 PM

Enuratique: cgraves67: Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.

The Weather Channel is losing ratings because people can get weather reports from their phones or the internet instead of watch a rotating regional report on tv. Only old people still watch it. So they are attempting to revitalize their market share with reality programming.

One of the many ways that the internet is killing tv.

You best not be bad-mouthing my beloved internet!


Hardly. Tv had it coming.
 
2013-07-26 01:03:53 PM
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-07-26 01:05:12 PM

blatz514: Boo_Guy: Build a giant wall around the city and ship all the prisoners there.

Maybe place cameras throughout to watch what the criminals are up to.

Or make a game show out of it!

[karlails.files.wordpress.com image 850x577]


Yea I was thinking that too.  But had something more like Deathrace in mind.
s2.ml90.com
 
2013-07-26 01:05:45 PM

bangmaid: mooseyfate: Detroit. What a joke.

That's funny coming from someone who claims to work in "disaster restoration" in New Orleans. You obviously aren't very good at your job.


Yeah, I forgot, New Orleans is still completely underwater, we're bankrupt, and there's no hope in sight!!! Oh wait, the city is almost completely recovered and neighborhoods that were war-zones or worse before the storm are now pleasant communities. Oh, and small businesses are booming. Oh, and all the projects the company I used to work for are still operational, which was a huge chunk of New Orleans including Tulane University, Loyola University, University of New Orleans, Delgado CC, Xavier University, all of the Wal-Marts on the Gulf Coast, Audobon Aquarium, Audobon Zoo, nearly all of the major condo and luxury apartment buildings, every single hotel/motel our employees stayed in from top-to-bottom, all of the casinos, and really I could go on all day, but I think you get the point. Which is that you have no clue what you're talking about, not even in the slightest. But, hey, atleast you got someone to pay attention to you today!
 
2013-07-26 01:06:44 PM

Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.


They have their good points:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-26 01:07:28 PM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Looks like things have gone downhill for Slide 17 since the photos were taken:

[farm6.staticflickr.com image 424x640]

[www.detroitfunk.com image 450x299]

[si.wsj.net image 659x439]


I came here to say how that building in particular looked really nice and stuff, but never mind then. I see that Detroit has reclaimed it.
 
2013-07-26 01:09:08 PM
Why haven't some of those been torn down?

Packard closed its doors in 1958.  You'd think that should have been taken care of by now.
 
2013-07-26 01:09:19 PM
They forgot the library with all the books scattered picture.
 
2013-07-26 01:10:37 PM

Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-26 01:10:52 PM

legion_of_doo: arashinogarou: The very first place I dropped the Street View marker, completely at random:

[dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 800x487]

Sad, so sad.

That's an improvement over a lot of places in Detroit.

No bombed out houses, the grass is cut, no homies pointing guns at you.



Well, that was the irony I was going for. I see it was a failed effort.
 
2013-07-26 01:11:40 PM

Pontious Pilates: You know what'll fix all that right up? A billion dollar hockey arena, that's what!


Haha, someone doesn't understand how the Downtown Development Authority works.
 
2013-07-26 01:13:10 PM

surmaaja: Picture 21 looks like the house they live in from Fight Club.


To me it looks like it should be a fun house in an amusement park
 
2013-07-26 01:13:38 PM

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Pontious Pilates: You know what'll fix all that right up? A billion dollar hockey arena, that's what!

Haha, someone doesn't understand how the Downtown Development Authority works.


I do not envy you, sir.
 
2013-07-26 01:14:11 PM
That one of the theatre reminded me of the eldritch cavern from the Discworld novel Moving Pictures (except without the fish-eaten skeletons and the hole into the Dungeon Dimensions, obviously).
 
2013-07-26 01:16:59 PM
Oh look. It's these pictures again.

/at least get some farking new ones
 
2013-07-26 01:17:45 PM

ace in your face: I really want some of that furniture, but not enough to risk being gang raped by crack heads...


Someone thought it was risky enough to snag all the auditorium chairs (Jane Cooper Elementary School), see slides 3 & 15.
 
2013-07-26 01:19:24 PM
One of the more disgusting parts of this, is the building pictured in slide 22 (Michigan Central Station) is owned by a billionaire. He's been order to clean it up, but uses his money and influence to let it rot as an eyesore. He also owns the 2 international crossings in Detroit too. He owns a lot of decrepit properties within the city.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Moroun
 
2013-07-26 01:19:26 PM
What did the Packard plant look like in the 70's and 80's? They haven't been around in 60 or so years.
 
2013-07-26 01:20:12 PM
Some of those places, particularly the theatre, could be beautiful. So sad. :(
 
2013-07-26 01:22:11 PM

mooseyfate: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Pontious Pilates: You know what'll fix all that right up? A billion dollar hockey arena, that's what!

Haha, someone doesn't understand how the Downtown Development Authority works.

I do not envy you, sir.


Why? I moved out of Detroit years ago. That area is a shiathole. I'm posting this from the pool in Vegas while on vacation.

The view from the pool is millions of times better than the view in Detroit.

/hard rock is a little jersey shore-ish tho
 
2013-07-26 01:23:32 PM
So much for the better parts of the city ...
 
2013-07-26 01:25:14 PM
Why is this set now missing the dead homeless guy frozen in a flooded basement?

Even the Detroit slideshows are falling apart.
 
2013-07-26 01:34:33 PM
I've seen so many of these "ruined Detroit" threads that now I don't even want to go there
 
2013-07-26 01:38:44 PM
The library with shelves still full of books, a dentist's office with the special chair and x-ray gun, the pianos--why wasn't this stuff given away when the buildings were abandoned?
 
2013-07-26 01:45:15 PM
This calls for a beer downtown tonight!

/say nice things about Detroit
 
2013-07-26 01:49:16 PM

GeeksAreMyPeeps: Don't we get a photos-of-abandoned-Detroit thread every couple of months?


With mostly the same photos, but just coming from different sites.
 
2013-07-26 01:49:37 PM
I didn't see any "urban"  people in those pictures.

Where did they all go?
 
2013-07-26 01:51:45 PM

flondrix: The library with shelves still full of books, a dentist's office with the special chair and x-ray gun, the pianos--why wasn't this stuff given away when the buildings were abandoned?


When they did "white flight" in Detroit they did it hard.
 
2013-07-26 01:56:50 PM

Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.


Then whatever you do, don't turn to The Learning Channel.
 
2013-07-26 01:59:01 PM

Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.


To be fair, the pictured buildings are quite weathered...

GeeksAreMyPeeps: Don't we get a photos-of-abandoned-Detroit thread every couple of months?


Sure seems like it. Honestly, why don't people pick on Camden, NJ for once? It, too, is a less than ideal city with ruins porn to be had.
 
2013-07-26 02:00:30 PM

Loud_Mouth_Soup: Oh look. It's this thread. And photos.

Again.

And again.

 And again.


There's this thing I learned to do called, "Move on to the next item."
 
2013-07-26 02:19:23 PM

Weidbrewer: How many frickin' times are we going to greenlight this?  We get it:  Detroit's a shiathole.  It's always been a shiathole.  It always  will be a shiathole.  Right now, it just happens to be a shiathole with empty buildings and will be for some time.


It wasn't ALWAYS a shiathole.  Back in the 50's it was a boomtown, and one of the most productive cities on Earth.  Now, it totally sucks...

/shame, all of that beautiful architecture going to waste
 
2013-07-26 02:19:59 PM
The Highland Park Police Station in Detroit. (Yves Marchand and Romain Meffre)

The Highland Park Police station is (was) in Highland Park, not Detroit.
 
2013-07-26 02:21:16 PM

Boo_Guy: Build a giant wall around the city and ship all the prisoners there.

Maybe place cameras throughout to watch what the criminals are up to.


You need to run for mayor.

/seriously
 
2013-07-26 02:28:05 PM
I would NOT buy that for a dollar. :-(
 
2013-07-26 02:30:50 PM

Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.


True story: Some cable channels started out as a niche, not thinking far enough ahead to the fact that they probably can't fill 24 hours a day with that niche or people will be less inclined to watch. And some channels started out as a service that has since become less needed.

The Weather Channel is the perfect storm (I'm so sorry) of these two things.

What's worse, these channels are often owned (or have been bought) by corporate entities that base everything they do on how it will affect their stock price. If the History Channel isn't making notable profits year-over-year, it has to become something else. Ditto the Learning Channel, MTV, etc.

MTV had the same problem as the weather channel: Their core product couldn't retain viewers, especially once other sources for that product became more accessible, and on demand.

Moral of the story: Don't name your channel "The ______ Channel." You'll be sorry.
 
2013-07-26 02:34:54 PM
images.wikia.com
 
2013-07-26 02:46:26 PM

GeeksAreMyPeeps: PowerSlacker: Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.

I gave up on them a few years ago.  They've gone full retard just like MTV and the History channel have.

or SYFY


I have an annual subscription thing that lets me look at a bunch of different maps not available to everyone, ad free, and customize some weather stuff. If they ever screw with that stuff I will drop them like a hot rock, but for now it's worth it since I'm a weather junkie. I ditched their mobile app though because the redesign was TERRIBLE and the ads were way more intrusive. Intellicast is much better, on Android at least.
 
2013-07-26 02:55:20 PM

waterrockets: Why is this set now missing the dead homeless guy frozen in a flooded basement?

Even the Detroit slideshows are falling apart.


Seriously???

I haven't seen that one
 
2013-07-26 03:09:33 PM

QueenMamaBee: waterrockets: Why is this set now missing the dead homeless guy frozen in a flooded basement?

Even the Detroit slideshows are falling apart.

Seriously???

I haven't seen that one


http://detroitghetto.com/2009/11/man-found-frozen-in-ice-at-bottom-o f. html
 
2013-07-26 03:16:51 PM
 
2013-07-26 03:19:57 PM

mooseyfate: bangmaid: mooseyfate: Detroit. What a joke.

That's funny coming from someone who claims to work in "disaster restoration" in New Orleans. You obviously aren't very good at your job.

Yeah, I forgot, New Orleans is still completely underwater, we're bankrupt, and there's no hope in sight!!! Oh wait, the city is almost completely recovered and neighborhoods that were war-zones or worse before the storm are now pleasant communities. Oh, and small businesses are booming. Oh, and all the projects the company I used to work for are still operational, which was a huge chunk of New Orleans including Tulane University, Loyola University, University of New Orleans, Delgado CC, Xavier University, all of the Wal-Marts on the Gulf Coast, Audobon Aquarium, Audobon Zoo, nearly all of the major condo and luxury apartment buildings, every single hotel/motel our employees stayed in from top-to-bottom, all of the casinos, and really I could go on all day, but I think you get the point. Which is that you have no clue what you're talking about, not even in the slightest. But, hey, atleast you got someone to pay attention to you today!


We'll you obviously don't understand my point, so I guess I'll explain it to you.

If you were good at your job, you obviously wouldn't feel the need to go online and rip other cities that need disaster relief. Anyone in management knows that when someone points out others' shortcomings, it is because they are self conscious, have low self esteem, and suck at their job.

But hey, at least you got to rip on Detroit today. Good job.
 
2013-07-26 03:20:25 PM
 
2013-07-26 03:24:20 PM
http://historicdetroit.org/

It's easy to pick on Detroit in it's current state. If that make you feel good about yourself, that's cool. But at least tell the whole story.
 
2013-07-26 03:36:16 PM

orezona: I was wondering what the Google Earth images would look like of the Packard plant...

https://maps.google.com/maps?safe=off&ie=UTF-8&q=downtown+portland+m ar riott&fb=1&gl=us&hq=marriott&hnear=0x54950b0b7da97427:0x1c36b9e6f6d185 91,Portland,+OR&cid=0,0,12923676400773890259&ei=_LXyUcjpH8THiwLByIGoBg &sqi=2&ved=0CL4BEPwSMAo

Woah. Looks like Berlin 1945 in some of the aerial shots.


It looks like the downtown Portland Marriott?  Glad I stay out by PDX when I am there
 
2013-07-26 03:37:39 PM
The Hotel Fort Shelby (Slide 24) has been restored and back in business for a while now.  Its history is interesting, particularly its mid-70s incarnation as a disco flophouse.
http://www.forgottendetroit.com/fsh/history.html
 
2013-07-26 03:47:33 PM
www.vinkamint.com

/michigander!
 
2013-07-26 03:50:11 PM

bangmaid: mooseyfate: bangmaid: mooseyfate: Detroit. What a joke.

That's funny coming from someone who claims to work in "disaster restoration" in New Orleans. You obviously aren't very good at your job.

Yeah, I forgot, New Orleans is still completely underwater, we're bankrupt, and there's no hope in sight!!! Oh wait, the city is almost completely recovered and neighborhoods that were war-zones or worse before the storm are now pleasant communities. Oh, and small businesses are booming. Oh, and all the projects the company I used to work for are still operational, which was a huge chunk of New Orleans including Tulane University, Loyola University, University of New Orleans, Delgado CC, Xavier University, all of the Wal-Marts on the Gulf Coast, Audobon Aquarium, Audobon Zoo, nearly all of the major condo and luxury apartment buildings, every single hotel/motel our employees stayed in from top-to-bottom, all of the casinos, and really I could go on all day, but I think you get the point. Which is that you have no clue what you're talking about, not even in the slightest. But, hey, atleast you got someone to pay attention to you today!

We'll you obviously don't understand my point, so I guess I'll explain it to you.

If you were good at your job, you obviously wouldn't feel the need to go online and rip other cities that need disaster relief. Anyone in management knows that when someone points out others' shortcomings, it is because they are self conscious, have low self esteem, and suck at their job.

But hey, at least you got to rip on Detroit today. Good job.


You don't understand at all what the words "disaster RESTORATION" mean when used in conjunction, do you? Did Detroit get leveled by a Tornado? A flood? A fire? A hurricane? An asteroid? A tsunami? An earthquake? A stiff breeze? Oh, that's right, it was leveled by greed and hubris. Sorry, not a natural disaster. Keep trying, though, it's both fun and easy making you look like a fool.

/you also don't seem to understand the concept of being a manager, as constructive criticism is a key aspect of the job that will completely derail productivity if you don't hand it out fairly and in a timely fashion
 
2013-07-26 04:11:04 PM

TheMaskedArmadillo: orezona: I was wondering what the Google Earth images would look like of the Packard plant...

https://maps.google.com/maps?safe=off&ie=UTF-8&q=downtown+portland+m ar riott&fb=1&gl=us&hq=marriott&hnear=0x54950b0b7da97427:0x1c36b9e6f6d185 91,Portland,+OR&cid=0,0,12923676400773890259&ei=_LXyUcjpH8THiwLByIGoBg &sqi=2&ved=0CL4BEPwSMAo

Woah. Looks like Berlin 1945 in some of the aerial shots.

It looks like the downtown Portland Marriott?  Glad I stay out by PDX when I am there


Well, that's what I get for not previewing.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Packard+Automotive+Plant,+Detroit,+MI &h l=en&sll=34.168218,-111.930907&sspn=16.313261,29.025879&oq=packard+pla nt,+de&t=h&hnear=Packard+Automotive+Plant&z=17

/I'll be staying at that Marriott this weekend
 
2013-07-26 04:18:24 PM

orezona: TheMaskedArmadillo: orezona: I was wondering what the Google Earth images would look like of the Packard plant...

https://maps.google.com/maps?safe=off&ie=UTF-8&q=downtown+portland+m ar riott&fb=1&gl=us&hq=marriott&hnear=0x54950b0b7da97427:0x1c36b9e6f6d185 91,Portland,+OR&cid=0,0,12923676400773890259&ei=_LXyUcjpH8THiwLByIGoBg &sqi=2&ved=0CL4BEPwSMAo

Woah. Looks like Berlin 1945 in some of the aerial shots.

It looks like the downtown Portland Marriott?  Glad I stay out by PDX when I am there

Well, that's what I get for not previewing.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Packard+Automotive+Plant,+Detroit,+MI &h l=en&sll=34.168218,-111.930907&sspn=16.313261,29.025879&oq=packard+pla nt,+de&t=h&hnear=Packard+Automotive+Plant&z=17

/I'll be staying at that Marriott this weekend


I live two blocks from there, enjoy the brewfest. Check out the Schmizza Pub and Grub on SW 4th/Mill- great drinks/cheap food and cool staff. I'll be back there Saturday night.

/if I'm going you may not want to
 
2013-07-26 05:05:56 PM

Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.


It's stations straying from their intended format that made me finally just say "Screw it!", and cut the cord about 3 years ago. Surprisingly, there's more worth watching on the 18 over-the-air stations I get... for FREE!
 
2013-07-26 05:16:38 PM

cgraves67: Enuratique: Why the hell is this coming from The Weather Channel?

Their attempts to create non-weather content pisses me the hell off.

The Weather Channel is losing ratings because people can get weather reports from their phones or the internet instead of watch a rotating regional report on tv. Only old people still watch it. So they are attempting to revitalize their market share with reality programming.

One of the many ways that the internet is killing tv.


But the main thing the owner of the Weather Channel is doing is lobbying and bribing republicans in congress to defund NOAA and other government weather tracking and warning systems so that people will be forced to depend on the Weather Channel for their own safety.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/02/18/207538/gop-cuts-noaa-sat el lite-weather-forecasting-and-hurricane-tracking/

This is similar to what they are attempting to do with the Postal Service. They want to privatize all government functions to make themselves and their donors/peers more money.
 
2013-07-26 05:22:00 PM

bangmaid: Roller Bob: Why hasn't Hollywood bought the entire city to use for their apocalyptic sets?

They basically did about 4 years ago because the state was giving tax incentives. Then those incentives expired... So the filming pretty much left.


If I recall correctly, it wasn't quite like that. The incentives were put in place for filming in Michigan, and several companies started investigating it. A few (2 or 3?) small films were filmed here, and 1 game (I think?). Then the legislature decided the tax incentives were too liberal/expensive/godless/godknowswhat and killed them. I know the legislature that killed the incentives was heavily Republican, but I'm pretty sure it was the same legislature that instituted them, so who knows what the hell happened. Unless it was the governor who instituted the incentives... Not really sure on this point.

Now I'm not going to say the incentives were golden. There was some concern about how studios could bring in most of their staff from out of state and still get the incentives, but I think there was some excitement in the secondary businesses regardless (hotels, restaurants, etc).
 
2013-07-26 06:01:35 PM
I was born in Dearborn, raised in a Polish area of Detroit.  We moved to CA when our neighborhood started to decline.  Still miss it though, especially the Polish city of Hamtramck (which is also hurting, but whatever).  Keep wanting to go back, but got no family there anymore, so it'd just be me driving around.

Now I'm depressed.
 
2013-07-26 06:05:01 PM

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: mooseyfate: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Pontious Pilates: You know what'll fix all that right up? A billion dollar hockey arena, that's what!

Haha, someone doesn't understand how the Downtown Development Authority works.

I do not envy you, sir.

Why? I moved out of Detroit years ago. That area is a shiathole. I'm posting this from the pool in Vegas while on vacation.

The view from the pool is millions of times better than the view in Detroit.

/hard rock is a little jersey shore-ish tho


Kickass! I guess I do envy you a bit.

/just remember, don't fark with the cazadores
 
2013-07-26 06:39:09 PM
Aidan: The incentives were put in place for filming in Michigan, and several companies started investigating it. A few (2 or 3?) small films were filmed here...

Like "Transformers" and "Gran Torino?" The book on which "Gran Torino" was based took place in the Twin Cities, but the location was moved to Highland Park because the tax breaks were so good.
 
2013-07-26 06:46:14 PM
I would kind if like to go there and see it. Probably cheaper yet far less safe than going to Chernobyl though.
 
2013-07-26 07:01:59 PM
 
2013-07-26 07:32:05 PM

Weidbrewer: It's always been a shiathole.


No, it hasn't, as even a quick glance through these photos will tell you.

It's pretty scary how much of a shiathole it's turned into.  They say Seattle's next.
 
2013-07-26 07:36:14 PM

bangmaid: Anyone in management knows that when someone points out others' shortcomings, it is because they are self conscious, have low self esteem, and suck at their job.


Err are you pointing out someone else's shortcomings ? Just checking ... ya know, to see if I should hire you.
 
2013-07-26 07:39:41 PM

Man On Pink Corner: They say Seattle's next


(asking out of genuine curiosity, and ignorance, in absolute humility) who is they and why ? I think Seattle is a particularly beautiful city and wonder why.
 
2013-07-26 07:39:42 PM

Slartibartfaster: bangmaid: Anyone in management knows that when someone points out others' shortcomings, it is because they are self conscious, have low self esteem, and suck at their job.

Err are you pointing out someone else's shortcomings ? Just checking ... ya know, to see if I should hire you.


He's not the quickest crayon in the shed.
 
2013-07-26 07:50:47 PM

silvervial: This is similar to what they are attempting to do with the Postal Service.


You know, I know there's some really fine people working for the United States Postal Service, but that entity as a whole needs to shape up or shut the fark down.  As someone that deals with a LOT of shipping on a daily basis, they are far and away the worst at their jobs.  UPS does everything they do better.  Does it cost more?  Of course it does, because they're actually getting shiat done.  People can biatch about how they personally had a bad experience with UPS or how UPS lost their package one time, but you know what?  At least their policy isn't "Well, that sucks.  Do you have anything else I can mail for you? No?  NEXT!".  UPS is far more cooperative on pretty much every level, and they actually handle damage claims.  USPS will abuse your package, lose your package, send it to the wrong address, then have the audacity to tell you to your face that it's not their responsibility.  fark USPS.

/I know this has nothing to do with the thread or the topic, just felt like venting
//Thanks for that.
 
2013-07-26 07:51:08 PM

Slartibartfaster: Man On Pink Corner: They say Seattle's next

(asking out of genuine curiosity, and ignorance, in absolute humility) who is they and why ? I think Seattle is a particularly beautiful city and wonder why.


It is.  And so was Detroit.  That's what people keep missing: as a mid-twentieth century city, Detroit was one of America's crown jewels.  But all of their Faberge eggs were stacked up in one financial basket.  In the 1970s, Seattle was as dependent on Boeing as Detroit was on the auto industry.  Fortunately, Microsoft and Amazon came along to diversify the employment base and bring money to town.

Seattle's city government isn't much more competent than Detroit's, and if anything we have less infrastructure to work with.  I think what happened to Detroit would also have happened here if it weren't for the technology sector.  I think it still could, given the right (wrong) combination of events.  Boeing is more or less fed up with the entire state, and I imagine their customers feel the same way about them, at least in the commercial airplanes sector.  If they ever pull up stakes, this area will be far too tech-heavy for its own good.
 
2013-07-26 07:51:16 PM

mooseyfate: He's not the quickest crayon in the shed


ok, I'm keeping/borrowing/stealing that.  It was always my expression that he/she is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier and that expression was lost on at least half the folken I told it to and I lived in Redneckistan/Greeely CO for 7 years.  You are now Favorited as I am unemployed, it is all I can do, ATM.  Do keep posting.
 
2013-07-26 07:56:23 PM

Man On Pink Corner: .


thank you
 
2013-07-26 07:57:35 PM

mooseyfate: silvervial: This is similar to what they are attempting to do with the Postal Service.

You know, I know there's some really fine people working for the United States Postal Service, but that entity as a whole needs to shape up or shut the fark down.  As someone that deals with a LOT of shipping on a daily basis, they are far and away the worst at their jobs.  UPS does everything they do better.  Does it cost more?  Of course it does, because they're actually getting shiat done.  People can biatch about how they personally had a bad experience with UPS or how UPS lost their package one time, but you know what?  At least their policy isn't "Well, that sucks.  Do you have anything else I can mail for you? No?  NEXT!".  UPS is far more cooperative on pretty much every level, and they actually handle damage claims.  USPS will abuse your package, lose your package, send it to the wrong address, then have the audacity to tell you to your face that it's not their responsibility.  fark USPS.

/I know this has nothing to do with the thread or the topic, just felt like venting
//Thanks for that.


You know, in my life I haven't traveled far and wide. But the countries I have been to make me appreciate the USPS greatly. I can stick a stamp on a letter, a bill or whatever, and be 99.999999% sure it will get there. But there are countries, Mrs. Fool is from one of them, where they have no decent postal service. It makes it hard for basic commerce. In fact, I think a decent Post is what differentiates a 'developed' nation from the rest.
 
2013-07-26 08:07:11 PM

mooseyfate: You know, I know there's some really fine people working for the United States Postal Service, but that entity as a whole needs to shape up or shut the fark down.  As someone that deals with a LOT of shipping on a daily basis, they are far and away the worst at their jobs.  UPS does everything they do better.


Ive had less problems with the USPS (internationally) than UPS
I once had a UPS driver drive up my driveway, come to my door and deliver me a card saying "your package was unable to be delivered because your address cannot be located"
I looked at the farkWIT driver for a few seconds and decided it probably was not worth explaining to him.
He smiled with rotting teeth and breathed on me happily and drove away (smelt like a squirrel crawled up his ass and died on the way to his throat)
So I disagree with your assessment.

// UPS are dickheads
/ Had similar (but not quite so spectacularly "fail") with UPS on three continents
 
2013-07-26 08:15:56 PM

desertfool: You know, in my life I haven't traveled far and wide. But the countries I have been to make me appreciate the USPS greatly. I can stick a stamp on a letter, a bill or whatever, and be 99.999999% sure it will get there. But there are countries, Mrs. Fool is from one of them, where they have no decent postal service. It makes it hard for basic commerce. In fact, I think a decent Post is what differentiates a 'developed' nation from the rest.


Slartibartfaster: Ive had less problems with the USPS (internationally) than UPS
I once had a UPS driver drive up my driveway, come to my door and deliver me a card saying "your package was unable to be delivered because your address cannot be located"
I looked at the farkWIT driver for a few seconds and decided it probably was not worth explaining to him.
He smiled with rotting teeth and breathed on me happily and drove away (smelt like a squirrel crawled up his ass and died on the way to his throat)
So I disagree with your assessment.

// UPS are dickheads
/ Had similar (but not quite so spectacularly "fail") with UPS on three continents


Like I said, just venting.  It's been a long week and USPS farked me twice, coming and going.  I understand the basic need of a USPS, but they seriously do need to get their shiat together.  Every true shipping problem we've experienced at work as been through USPS, and that's saying something considering they only handle a 1/4th of what we ship.  UPS handles the other 3/4ths, and that's quite a bit.  Not Amazon-esque, but still a pretty high volume of packages ranging from padded envelopes all the way up to 100+ lbs. boxes full of expensive product.  The simple fact is that we can't trust USPS with the bulk of our shipping volume because they're too irresponsible and their policies regarding lost/damaged packages, especially internationally, are horrible.
 
2013-07-26 08:18:36 PM

specialkae: mooseyfate: He's not the quickest crayon in the shed

ok, I'm keeping/borrowing/stealing that.  It was always my expression that he/she is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier and that expression was lost on at least half the folken I told it to and I lived in Redneckistan/Greeely CO for 7 years.  You are now Favorited as I am unemployed, it is all I can do, ATM.  Do keep posting.


Glad I could bring a smile to your face!  Hope your employment situation improves soon, I know how that can be.  Unemployed for 9 months before I found my current job, and that shiat suuuuuuuucked.

/the unemployment, not my current job.
//I'm literally in love with my job now.  I think it's making my wife jealous.
 
2013-07-27 02:11:37 AM

mooseyfate: Oh wait, the city is almost completely recovered and neighborhoods that were war-zones or worse before the storm are now pleasant communities.


What kind of fantasy world do you live in? New Orleans East, Lower 9th, etc. are still a post-apocalyptic hellhole.

That and crime is still an issue in the city.

I mean I love New Orleans as much as the next person and I'm happy to see it thrive in a way it wasn't able to prior to Katrina, but I'm also a realist who realizes that there are still plenty of issues to resolve in New Orleans.
 
2013-07-27 09:59:01 AM

Man On Pink Corner: Slartibartfaster: Man On Pink Corner: They say Seattle's next

(asking out of genuine curiosity, and ignorance, in absolute humility) who is they and why ? I think Seattle is a particularly beautiful city and wonder why.

It is.  And so was Detroit.  That's what people keep missing: as a mid-twentieth century city, Detroit was one of America's crown jewels.  But all of their Faberge eggs were stacked up in one financial basket.  In the 1970s, Seattle was as dependent on Boeing as Detroit was on the auto industry.  Fortunately, Microsoft and Amazon came along to diversify the employment base and bring money to town.

Seattle's city government isn't much more competent than Detroit's, and if anything we have less infrastructure to work with.  I think what happened to Detroit would also have happened here if it weren't for the technology sector.  I think it still could, given the right (wrong) combination of events.  Boeing is more or less fed up with the entire state, and I imagine their customers feel the same way about them, at least in the commercial airplanes sector.  If they ever pull up stakes, this area will be far too tech-heavy for its own good.


Thats stupid. Part of Detroits problem was the white flight and the crack epidemic. Because people are not psychotically racist like they were in the past there isnt going to be such an issue in Seattle. You act like amazon and microsoft are the only things in town. Plus if anything run diwn neighborhoods in Seattle, like the CD are a thousand times better than they were 20 years ago, and even 10 years ago. Seattle is not headed towards a Detroit like collapse. Thats really one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.
 
2013-07-27 11:22:10 AM

Mrtraveler01: I mean I love New Orleans as much as the next person and I'm happy to see it thrive in a way it wasn't able to prior to Katrina, but I'm also a realist who realizes that there are still plenty of issues to resolve in New Orleans.


My point wasn't that New Orleans is now a Utopia.  Every city has problems, and at least now NOLA seems to be focused on dealing with them.  My point was that bangmaid doesn't know his asshole from his earhole, and was completely off-base in trying to insinuate that I'd somehow wronged New Orleans with my past job at a disaster restoration company.
 
2013-07-27 11:27:03 AM

Mrtraveler01: mooseyfate: Oh wait, the city is almost completely recovered and neighborhoods that were war-zones or worse before the storm are now pleasant communities.

What kind of fantasy world do you live in? New Orleans East, Lower 9th, etc. are still a post-apocalyptic hellhole.

That and crime is still an issue in the city.

I mean I love New Orleans as much as the next person and I'm happy to see it thrive in a way it wasn't able to prior to Katrina, but I'm also a realist who realizes that there are still plenty of issues to resolve in New Orleans.


Also, I'm not sure when the last time you were down was, but much of those blighted areas you're referring to are now recovered quite well.  New Orleans East and Lower 9th got leveled by Katrina, but they've definitely recovered.  I'm not saying there's not still boarded up houses, but the house-flipping market in New Orleans has taken off from where it was even 4 years ago.  I drive through neighborhoods I haven't been through in a few years and I'm always floored to see restored and raised houses where before there was nothing but 2x4's and overgrowth.

/so in otherwords, the complete opposite of Detroit.
 
2013-07-27 04:30:46 PM

ace in your face: Thats stupid. Part of Detroits problem was the white flight and the crack epidemic. Because people are not psychotically racist like they were in the past there isnt going to be such an issue in Seattle. You act like amazon and microsoft are the only things in town. Plus if anything run diwn neighborhoods in Seattle, like the CD are a thousand times better than they were 20 years ago, and even 10 years ago. Seattle is not headed towards a Detroit like collapse. Thats really one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.


For the record, I hope you're right!
 
2013-07-27 06:36:23 PM

mooseyfate: Mrtraveler01: mooseyfate: Oh wait, the city is almost completely recovered and neighborhoods that were war-zones or worse before the storm are now pleasant communities.

What kind of fantasy world do you live in? New Orleans East, Lower 9th, etc. are still a post-apocalyptic hellhole.

That and crime is still an issue in the city.

I mean I love New Orleans as much as the next person and I'm happy to see it thrive in a way it wasn't able to prior to Katrina, but I'm also a realist who realizes that there are still plenty of issues to resolve in New Orleans.

Also, I'm not sure when the last time you were down was, but much of those blighted areas you're referring to are now recovered quite well.  New Orleans East and Lower 9th got leveled by Katrina, but they've definitely recovered.  I'm not saying there's not still boarded up houses, but the house-flipping market in New Orleans has taken off from where it was even 4 years ago.  I drive through neighborhoods I haven't been through in a few years and I'm always floored to see restored and raised houses where before there was nothing but 2x4's and overgrowth.

/so in otherwords, the complete opposite of Detroit.


Wow, way to shrug off what's happening in Midtown. Jeez.
 
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