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(Opposing Views)   Cops go to the wrong address, scare a 72-year-old man, and then shoot him dead. Their excuse? The lighting was bad and they couldn't see what was going on   (opposingviews.com) divider line 276
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2013-07-26 11:41:21 AM
Note to self.

Pick up some glow in the dark paint and write my street and number on the front, back and sides of my house.
 
2013-07-26 11:46:53 AM
When I went for my first hunting license when a wee lad (I think I was 11), the first rule we were taught was "know your target."

I haven't shot a gun in years and I still hear that in my head every time I pick one up.
 
2013-07-26 11:47:08 AM

BizarreMan: Note to self.

Pick up some glow in the dark paint and write my street and number on the front, back and sides of my house.


Also a big lighted sign that says, "Attention Law Enforcement: There is nothing illegal going on in this house. I swear. Please do not break into my house and kill me. Thank you."
 
2013-07-26 12:05:34 PM
Police were dispatched to 409 Havenwood Lane on May 28 because of a reported burglary. The problem was that they went to 404 Havenwood Lane instead of their intended destination.

In their defence, math is hard.
 
2013-07-26 12:05:58 PM
Hey, they were just defending themselves..jeez.

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2013-07-26 12:10:13 PM
imageshack.us

Were these the officers involved?
 
2013-07-26 12:10:39 PM
[insert usual rant against police here]
 
2013-07-26 12:19:01 PM
Meh, the case will be settled quickly, for way less than a jury would award, and then the police will never face the wrath they deserve.

/the new American way
 
2013-07-26 12:26:46 PM

miss diminutive: Police were dispatched to 409 Havenwood Lane on May 28 because of a reported burglary. The problem was that they went to 404 Havenwood Lane instead of their intended destination.

In their defence, math is hard.


Yes. I mean... it was pretty much the house right across the street. My GPS screws that up all the time.

/Looks like a nice neighborhood.
 
2013-07-26 12:34:50 PM
Knew it was Texas before I clicked.
 
2013-07-26 12:41:24 PM
This was Texas, wasn't it....

-clicks article-

Yep.

I'm going to go with incompetence and "Decider" mentality for 500, Alex.
 
2013-07-26 12:46:25 PM
I was reading another article indicating that both of the cops who shot him were rookies that had been on the force since October of last year. Sounds like there was a dangerous mix of inexperience and trigger happiness going on here.
 
2013-07-26 12:48:53 PM
I'm sure if the old man shot one of the cops and blamed it on bad lighting he would also just get a stern talking too.
 
2013-07-26 12:52:37 PM

odinsposse: I'm sure if the old man shot one of the cops and blamed it on bad lighting he would also just get a stern talking too.


It's Texas. They'd have fried him faster than a retarded black man.
 
2013-07-26 12:56:59 PM

Sybarite: I was reading another article indicating that both of the cops who shot him were rookies that had been on the force since October of last year. Sounds like there was a dangerous mix of inexperience and trigger happiness going on here.


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2013-07-26 01:18:12 PM
Police were dispatched to 409 Havenwood Lane on May 28 because of a reported burglary. The problem was that they went to 404 Havenwood Lane instead of their intended destination.

If only there was some sort of global system that could be used to make sure you were at the correct address.

Maybe a system of satellites and receiving devices that map and plot your position across the globe?
 
2013-07-26 01:37:31 PM
To the Radleymobile! Fire up the Balkosignal!
 
2013-07-26 01:37:51 PM
Dang Texas, WTF?
 
2013-07-26 01:39:29 PM

vernonFL: Police were dispatched to 409 Havenwood Lane on May 28 because of a reported burglary. The problem was that they went to 404 Havenwood Lane instead of their intended destination.

If only there was some sort of global system that could be used to make sure you were at the correct address.

Maybe a system of satellites and receiving devices that map and plot your position across the globe?


No, you'd have to have some way to generate electricity in your car.  Cars are powered by burning light oils, not by electricity.
 
2013-07-26 01:39:50 PM
To protect and .....shoot....
 
2013-07-26 01:40:56 PM
20 goto 10;
 
2013-07-26 01:42:22 PM
....gettin real tired of these "cops killin the wrong stuff at places they shouldn't be" articles.

Cops: STAAAAAHP
 
2013-07-26 01:43:09 PM
Where are the defenders of these officers?  Come on, get your biatch asses in here and DEFEND THEM!
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-07-26 01:43:23 PM

Wangiss: No, you'd have to have some way to generate electricity in your car. Cars are powered by burning light oils, not by electricity.


ah, if only..

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2013-07-26 01:43:44 PM
1. Verify the address at which the alleged crime is taking place.
2. If you don't verify the address, at least verify that the alleged crime is taking place.
3. If you don't verify the crime, at least verify your alleged criminal.
4. If you don't verify the criminal, at least verify that lethal force is necessary.
5. If you don't verify that lethal force is necessary, at least truthfully report what happened.
6. If you don't truthfully report what happened, at least have the dignity to put yourself on administrative leave.

Sweet Jesus, how bad do you have to suck at law enforcement, at being ethical, at being human, to fail that checklist?
 
2013-07-26 01:45:21 PM
That escalated quickly
 
2013-07-26 01:45:54 PM
WTF is wrong with this country?

/Eventually if they keep on killing middle class white people they will have to account for their actions.
 
2013-07-26 01:46:21 PM
"even if though the police do will not lift a finger to punish their own wrongdoers"

FTFTFA
 
2013-07-26 01:46:36 PM
How often do we hear about a SWAT team breaking in to a house and actually shooting someone who is a threat?  Does that happen at all or is it always innocent people?

/militarization of police forces is BAD.
 
2013-07-26 01:46:51 PM
This wouldn't have happened it he was black......
 
2013-07-26 01:48:16 PM

sugardave: Where are the defenders of these officers?  Come on, get your biatch asses in here and DEFEND THEM!


Maybe.... just maybe this one will be too much for them to defend.....


nah, they'll be right along once they read the talking points.
 
2013-07-26 01:49:58 PM

miss diminutive: Police were dispatched to 409 Havenwood Lane on May 28 because of a reported burglary. The problem was that they went to 404 Havenwood Lane instead of their intended destination.

In their defence, math is hard.


The houses aren't even on the same side of the street! WTF?

Egregious doesn't even begin to cover this kind of error.

DAMN!
 
2013-07-26 01:50:04 PM
wax_on
How often do we hear about a SWAT team breaking in to a house and actually shooting someone who is a threat? Does that happen at all or is it always innocent people?
/militarization of police forces is BAD.


I agree but this has not hing to do with that. This is about police hiring the wrong type of personality that are trained primary to save their own bacon and are not accountable for their mistakes.

They are already back on the job.
 
2013-07-26 01:50:38 PM
Someone in a football thread was wondering why we call Texas an "open sewer" earlier today. Well, here ya go.
 
2013-07-26 01:50:39 PM
 
2013-07-26 01:50:58 PM

Diogenes: When I went for my first hunting license when a wee lad (I think I was 11), the first rule we were taught was "know your target."

I haven't shot a gun in years and I still hear that in my head every time I pick one up.


Deer, quail and trout [trout?] don't shoot back. The first rule is, soften your target.
 
2013-07-26 01:51:08 PM

sugardave: Where are the defenders of these officers?  Come on, get your biatch asses in here and DEFEND THEM!


Those police officers were just responding to a perceived threat.... there was bad lighting, that man could have been BLACK for God's sake.

/I got the post-lunch slump, I got nothin....
 
2013-07-26 01:51:34 PM

miss diminutive: Police were dispatched to 409 Havenwood Lane on May 28 because of a reported burglary. The problem was that they went to 404 Havenwood Lane instead of their intended destination.

In their defence, math is hard.


But in most places 409 would be on the other side of the street from 404.  You would think that the police would know better than to go to the address on the south side of the road when it should be on the north side.
 
2013-07-26 01:52:03 PM
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Ya never know.

/shame how it all went down with uncle Joon.
 
2013-07-26 01:52:44 PM
In the cops' defense, he WAS coming right for them.
 
2013-07-26 01:52:45 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: The officers identified themselves and ordered Waller to drop the gun, but he pointed it at the officers, prompting Hoeppner to shoot Waller, according to the affidavit.

Ready for a home invasion, not ready for the police.

/did they take it from his cold, dead hand?


Except they lied about his location, so did they also lie about him pointing a gun?  $1M says yes. You can send it to me in small, unmarked bills.
 
2013-07-26 01:52:59 PM
And this is why you should leave the firearms to the professionals...
 
2013-07-26 01:53:13 PM

vernonFL: Police were dispatched to 409 Havenwood Lane on May 28 because of a reported burglary. The problem was that they went to 404 Havenwood Lane instead of their intended destination.

If only there was some sort of global system that could be used to make sure you were at the correct address.

Maybe a system of satellites and receiving devices that map and plot your position across the globe?


People actually rely on those still? I thought all the stories of people getting directed 300 miles out of their way and mindlessly turning their cars to crash into trains taught people to look up where they are going first, not just plug the numbers in and hope it comes out right.

/cannot begin to tell you how many times she has bailed friends and family out of tight situations because their GPS thigamajig gave them bad directions, or there was a road closure. . Or or or or. . .
//always looks up directions and then writes them by hand.
 
2013-07-26 01:53:23 PM
In defense of the cops, it can be very difficult to see the number on a house when the lighting is crappy or nonexistent.  Getting the wrong house because of bad lighting is understandable.

In defense of intelligence, though, they were on the wrong farking side of the street! Nearly every place I have ever been in this country has odd numbers on one side of the street and even on the other.  I imagine that the cops were looking the numbers as they drove by, and if they saw the numbers were 400 - 402 - 404 or 412 - 410 - 408 then why did they not turn their farking heads and start looking at the odd numbered houses?!?!?!?!?!?

So yeah, their stupidity completely cancels out any excuse for bad lighting and getting the wrong house.  This should be manslaughter charges for the shooter(s) and the firing of everyone else involved on the response.
 
2013-07-26 01:54:18 PM

Mr. Eugenides: miss diminutive: Police were dispatched to 409 Havenwood Lane on May 28 because of a reported burglary. The problem was that they went to 404 Havenwood Lane instead of their intended destination.

In their defence, math is hard.

But in most places 409 would be on the other side of the street from 404.  You would think that the police would know better than to go to the address on the south side of the road when it should be on the north side.


I don't think many people, even cops unfortunately, understand how house numbers work.
 
2013-07-26 01:55:36 PM
Nina_Hartley's_Ass

did they take it from his cold, dead hand?

Probably. Poor guy obviously never thought he'd have to defend himself from the police. He was wrong.
 
2013-07-26 01:56:09 PM

kidgenius: Mr. Eugenides: miss diminutive: Police were dispatched to 409 Havenwood Lane on May 28 because of a reported burglary. The problem was that they went to 404 Havenwood Lane instead of their intended destination.

In their defence, math is hard.

But in most places 409 would be on the other side of the street from 404.  You would think that the police would know better than to go to the address on the south side of the road when it should be on the north side.

I don't think many people, even cops unfortunately, understand how house numbers work.


wtf, how is that possible?
 
2013-07-26 01:56:37 PM

d23: Wangiss: No, you'd have to have some way to generate electricity in your car. Cars are powered by burning light oils, not by electricity.

ah, if only..

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WTF?!
I'm still using one of these!
ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2013-07-26 01:56:57 PM

Mock26: In defense of the cops, it can be very difficult to see the number on a house when the lighting is crappy or nonexistent.  Getting the wrong house because of bad lighting is understandable.

In defense of intelligence, though, they were on the wrong farking side of the street! Nearly every place I have ever been in this country has odd numbers on one side of the street and even on the other.  I imagine that the cops were looking the numbers as they drove by, and if they saw the numbers were 400 - 402 - 404 or 412 - 410 - 408 then why did they not turn their farking heads and start looking at the odd numbered houses?!?!?!?!?!?

So yeah, their stupidity completely cancels out any excuse for bad lighting and getting the wrong house.  This should be manslaughter charges for the shooter(s) and the firing of everyone else involved on the response.


Yeah, I know....only if those cops had a way of compensating for bad lighting
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Or:
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2013-07-26 01:57:02 PM
Clearly, LEO's are the only people trained well enough to be in possession of firearms.
 
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